And how the HELL is this possible? I don't appreciate you lying about your age all the time. Oh,and BTW, maybe this thread should disappear.It's not going to get any friendlier,and it is the season to be jolly ya' know? Probably not a good time for a terrible subject like this.
yeah a legal system where you can kill someone and get away with it because the Glove doesn't fit the hand. or Criminals doing a crime only to make a deal and getting less than what they should really be getting. I wouldn't lose sleep if someone killed a Child molester
i do believe in a case of a convicted child molester that that punishment is in fact much harsher (and deserved) than the death penalty. i waver on the justness of taking someone's life, but certainly have no problem with a convicted molester being roomed with Big Bubba at the state penitentiary for life.
I've gotten to know Stitches (Pete) over time on this site and I think I know where he is coming from and its nowhere insensitive, cruel, or antagonistic. I think he just wants to set aside all personal feelings so that a person can have a fair trial as guaranteed to us as American citizens. Which I think is how our legal system and society should be ran. I'm sure that he is just as disgusted as everyone else is at what this man has done by molesting these young girls. I also see where everyone else is coming from as well, because what happened is horrendous as this man took something from these children that can never be replaced; their innocence. Plus as Maj said the legal system is flawed in that usually child molesters get off with much less of a punishment than they deserve. I think that if you take something that can't be replaced such as a child's innocence that you should have something taken from you that can never be replaced...your freedom (or even your life if what you did was horrendous enough). However as Stitches has pointed out we live in a country of innocent until proven guilty and the law is the law (even if it seems wrong at times). Honestly, I just can't understand how someone could take something as innocent as Santa and do this...its just terrible. In the end, I think we all can agree that what happened with these young girls was terrible and the emotions everyone feels are warranted. Just remember that what Stitches was doing was keeping those emotions separate so that the American legal system could play itself out...whether its too lenient or not.
Lets all cross our fingers and pray that this douchebag doesnt find a loop hole in the system and get off scott free.
I have no link to back it up because I learned it in a sexual predator class. 75% of male are sexually assaulted while 65% of females during their life time. Scary figures.
There has to be a context here. Ive never heard those figures and I majored in Criminal Justice and Psychology.
It was what the teacher told us, he could have pumped the numbers up for shock value. To his credit he did say a true number will never be known because so many cases go unreported. If you do however have more accurate numbers, I would like to know.
The numbers depend on many variables. For example, the numbers of abuse vary amongst ethnic groups and different income levels. Its hard to look at percentages in a vacuum and say that 'X' amount of kids are abused. I don't have exact figures and as you said its impossible to know with many cases not being reported, but Id venture to say your teacher was factoring in psychological and/or verbal abuse along with the physical abuse. In any event, what constitutes "abuse" is often disagreed upon which makes it even more difficult to come to a consenus.
I've had some experience of late with these issues b/c of two cases I've been working on. One was a likely candidate for reform the other one wasn't. (According to the doctors) I had come to the same conclusions prior to their reports for my own reasons. The one guy just seemed to get high (meth) and have a lot of sex. He had some underage partners but that seemed to be based on availability. It didn't seem to be what he was attracted to. He was also young and closer in age to his victims (19 yr old with a 13 yr old and 18 with a 14 yr old). The other guy was older (mid 30s, victims were 9 and 13 yrs old). He came off like a predator. He seemed too effeminate. He didn't always seem like an adult to me. There were of course other factors, but the point is that any blanket stats may not be applicable to individual cases.
im late to this thread, but reading through the thread you can see thouse who have children and/or smaller siblings or smaller kids they are close to.. and thouse that do not. me.. I would kill the ****er. Don't need more proof than a young kid asking SANTA for it.
This whole subject is so troubling. These numbers though I have a real problem with though. I simly cannot believe that 3 out of every 4 boys have been sexually assaulted and more than 3 out of every 5 girls. Any percentage is too high period but these numbers cannot be correct. If they are, statistically half of my direct family should be child molestors.
Should of had at least 10 thank you's on this one.No problem though.Thank you for keeping this thread around.
Like I said in another post, his numbers could have been accurate, just not in the broadest context of "All Boys" or "All Girls". Even factoring in all forms of abuse (verbal, psych, physical and sexual) the numbers wouldnt be that high.
Been there man, it's a very sad thing. I made it 10 with mine, until it became too much for her. Her behavior over this issue helped lead her to the end of her life. All of these bastards need to be dealt with harshly and severely.
I don't think you have to have children to know what this guy did was terrible, but I get your point.
you're right, i don't have children, but that doesn't make me unqualified to have a well thought out opinion. in fact, my cousin who I am very close with was abused by her step brother when she was growing up, so it's not like I have no idea what sexual abuse can do. regardless, i stand by any opinions i stated earlier in this thread. i do see what you mean though, and i'm sure i'll be more protective once i have kids of my own, but until then i suppose i'll have to settle for my lack of little ones opinions
I disagree. I have an 8 year old son but I had enough intelligence and empathy before I was a father to have a reasonable opinion. And my opinion did not change when I became a father. The people whose opinion I question are those that thought one way before they were parents but then decide everything is different after they are parents.