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My heart goes out to Zach and Jason

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by SICK, Dec 28, 2008.

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  1. SICK

    SICK Lounge Moderator

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    Ok, regardless of jt stinking up the joint this offseason, and all the dancing stuff....he and zach gave all out heart and soul for our miami dolphins....for over a decade....they bled, they cried, they cheered, they won us all over, we bought the jerseys with their names on them....hell...i named my son Zachary Thomas Cullen....

    i have tears in my eyes right now, because they deserved to win a division, and go into the playoffs and have this core of coaches, players, and FO people around them for their entire careers.....all with the miami dolphins being their team....

    it didnt work out that way....now they both sit at home at the twilight of their careers....while the dolphins win 11 games....win the afc east....and host a playoff game....with a heavenly bright future ahead of us....they can only watch from home...and i am sure they will be rooting....yet i am sad....sad for those guys...they deserved a ring with the miami dolphins....they wont get it....but damnit i love those 2 guys with everything in me....as tears roll down right now thinking of what they gave to us....us fans, our team....our legacy....

    they took pay cuts, they changed positions....(jason) they worked with every ****ty coach that was brought in, from wanny, to jimmy, to nick satan, to cam-cam....they didnt talk smack, they didnt bash the team, they didnt bash our city....they even left their numbers here, cause they will always be #99 and #54 as miami dolphins....i feel for them....they deserved what our future now holds for our miami dolphins....they deserved to be young, in their prime with multiple chances at titles in their sights....they didnt get it....but they are 2 of the greatest miami dolphins i have ever watched....and for that....i love those guys.....they will be rooting beside us for the dolphins next sunday....

    so miami.....lets do the unthinkable....lets make some noise in the postseason....for miami, for the team, for us fans....and for jason and zach!!!!!!

    god bless! Go Dolphins! :ffic:
     
  2. Alex44

    Alex44 Boshosaurus Rex

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    Zach yes.

    Jason forced his own way off this team and didn't want to honor his contract to the Miami Dolphins. I feel nothing towards him.
     
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  3. Kanye West

    Kanye West 'Parcells' Guy

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    I have not even thought about them to be honest I have been so happy. But I am sure no matter what happen this offseason with both of those guys I am sure they are happy for us and they know we are thinking about them.
     
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  4. Kanye West

    Kanye West 'Parcells' Guy

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    Really you dont feel for Jason Taylor a guy that lived and bleed teal, orange and white for more then a decade. I am sorry to hear that. I mean can you blame Jason Taylor for not wanting to be in Miami he wanted to go win a superbowl or at least have a chance and at the beging of the season no one thought we would be where we are. Washington is where he had the better chance at the beging of the year. He is also getting toward the end of his carerr if you were in his shoes would you want to help rebuild towards the end of your carerr?
     
  5. Sethdaddy8

    Sethdaddy8 Well-Known Member

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    hey, maybe those guys will sign with us in the off-season...if the old timers want that one last shot with a contender.



    God that felt good to say.
     
  6. Alex44

    Alex44 Boshosaurus Rex

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    He signed to play with the Miami Dolphins. There is no clause in any players contract that says when the going gets rough you go to a new team.

    In the end he didn't want to stay here. At the start of the season the players who believed we would be here thought this is where we would be (And I myself predicted around 8 wins, but this is much better than even I thought)

    Jason obviously only cares about himself.
     
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  7. byroan

    byroan Giggity Staff Member Administrator Luxury Box

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    Taylor said he didn't want to be apart of our rebuilding project...yeah some rebuilding project that turned out to be.
     
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  8. SICK

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    haha he ultimatley helped our rebuilding project more by getting us a 2nd round pick :lol:
     
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  9. alen1

    alen1 New Member

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    Great post sir Sickfinfan33 Cullen. I'm not one to rate threads but 5 stars from me.
     
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  10. GARDENHEAD

    GARDENHEAD Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Cut JT some slack. He bled aqua and orange just like Zach did. They're the same guy.
     
  11. SICK

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    nothing special, i just felt zt and jt deserved this....this solid team...this solid franchise...the chance to have a team built around them through the draft....with smart Gm and coaches....they deserved it...and i wanted to thank them!

    thanks bro :up:
     
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  12. SICK

    SICK Lounge Moderator

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    agreed, i refuse to let 1 offseason change the blood he gave to us for over a decade! i refuse to do it...
     
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  13. Blade

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    It sucks they couldnt be here to enjoy this. they deserved it. they gave thier all 100% of the time. They are my two favorite players all time and they will always be dolphins in my book.
     
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  14. Coral Reefer

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    Meh.....

    I'm a fan of the Miami Dolphins organization not really of any of the individuals playing in it, especially now with how crazy Free Agency has made the league.

    JT left on his own accord and seems to have a focus more on Hollywood than football so I don't feel for him one little bit.

    Zach deserved more than going to a team full of egomaniacal primadonna's so I do feel for him a little.

    Overall though, I really don't care, I care that the Dolphins team is back.
     
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  15. Dolphinsfan69

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    Can't get mad at Jason for wanting to get off of what looked like a very bad team (turned out to be untrue thanks to Penny and Co). Organizations do it all the time, it's just the business part of the NFL. Organizations cut great and loyal players due to cap situation/injuries/doesn't fit system/etc all the time (Zach Thomas rings a bell). You have to realize it's a business and Jason Taylor and Zach Thomas are forever Miami Dolphins. Although it's been a rough season for them, i guarantee you they will be cheering for the Dolphins in the postseason.
     
  16. PMZQ

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    :amen: You are preaching my mantra Alex ! I feel the same way. Taylor could have been a part of this, but he didn't want to be here and made that perfectly clear. It was his choice, and he made the wrong one. :shifty:
     
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  17. daphins

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    Word :up:

    I feel nothing but love for those two guys. Their commitment to this franchise was second to none. Two stand up classy guys.
     
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  18. FinSane

    FinSane Cynical Dolphins Fan

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    zach has said he will always be a miami dolphin
     
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  19. PMZQ

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    Jason Taylor had the opportunity to be a part of it, and chose to go elsewhere. His made his own bed, and now lies in it.

    I love my Dolphins, and I hate disloyalty......what Jason Taylor did was disloyal to the franchise many of you claim he loves. Well when it came down to it, he loved himself more than his teammates. So he can continue to love himself, at home, out of the playoffs and he can think hard and long about how he let down Mr Huizenga, Bill Parcells, Tony Sparano and all DolFans.

    I hate feeling this way, because I used to be the biggest JT fan, but that all changed the day he had his "press conference" after DWTS had ended and made it clear he wanted out of here. He got his wish and now he can watch the Dolphins instead of being a part of it. Its karma.
     
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  20. DOLFANMIKE

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    How sweet it is.....

    We win the EAST, knock the Pats and Jets out of the playoffs in a single swipe, and get a nice looking 2nd rounder for a dancer!
     
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  21. Kanye West

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    [mod]please, no insults[/mod] Ok the guy wanted to change teams he is not the first and not the last. But you saying he only cares about himself is such a stupid comment that was not thought through. You really dont know what this guys does. He helps out children with cancer by visting them in the hospital. He helps the ASPCA. That is just the start.lease think before you post.
     
  22. NJFINSFAN1

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    My heart goes out to Zach!!!! He didn't ask to leave

    Taylor did, I have no feelings for him. He was a great Fin, but asked to be gone.
     
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  23. PMZQ

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    Its completely different with Zach. He never once asked to be released or traded. His contract was up, he was a FA. JT was under contract and he should have manned-up and accepted the new regime and played hard for them. But he chose to play somewhere else, got his wish, and now he is out of the playoffs. That comes under TFB.
     
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  24. Pauly

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    I feel sorry for Zach because given the minutest chance he would have stayed here.

    However, with JT I honestly believe that we wouldn't have done this well with him here. This isn't a shot at JT the player, but more an acknowledgment that the relationship between JT and the top brass at the 'phins had irretrievably broken down and that him staying here would have been a complete off field distraction, especially in the crucial training camp period. If the marriage is broken down there's no point remembering how great the honeymoon was and its time for a divorce. If JT had been traded 2 or 3 seasons ago when he still was passionate about the 'phins I'd feel sorry for him, but the 'phins and JT had parted ways long before he was traded to the 'skins.
     
  25. Kanye West

    Kanye West 'Parcells' Guy

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    Thank jason Taylor for this if he did not leave our rookie would not have started.
     
  26. finserg

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    Can you put up the article were he says this,,,The only thing i remember was parcell ignored him when he went to speak to him..
     
  27. muscle979

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    Of course this turns into a bash Jason Taylor thread. The man did a lot for this team and this community. None of you know what really went on behind the scenes. None of you. Funny that some of the same people who will bash JT based on complete assumptions will defend Wes Welker who admitted that he dreamed of playing for another team. I wonder if Wes will watch the Fins playoff game next weekend at his house?
     
  28. Larry Little

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    I wish Zach was still here. I feel we'd be a better defense with him. He's all heart, and he's one of the greatest Dolphins ever. He'll always be a Dolphin to me. I wish he could have been a part of whipping the Jets... in NY... in the final game... to win the AFC East.

    Jason Taylor can suck it.
     
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  29. greyeagl53

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    I could not agree more, Zach showed alot of class. Jason was just a bit too self centered to me. I was a HUGE fan until he pulled the PR "stuff" to get out of town. I was hoping Zach and the Boys would make it for Zach's sake, but glad the Skins will be watching from home.
     
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  30. anlgp

    anlgp ↑ ↑ ↓ ↓ ← → ← → B A

    It's aqua not teal.
     
  31. AbideN703

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    ZT yes, JT no.

    Period
     
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  32. ASUFinFan

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    I love those two players. Those two, along with Marino, are why I grew up loving the dolphins. Great years watching them. But with that said, I think this rebuilding project needed new blood. They needed new leaders. And I think this had a great part in how this year turned out. Everyone bought into the new system...which hasn't happened in previous years.
     
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  33. jdang307

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    Dan Marino's agent once demanded a trade, held out of training camp, and gave the team a list of teams he would like to be traded to. JT wanted off, but was willing to play if not. he never held out.
     
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  34. ASUFinFan

    ASUFinFan Uh huh

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    Maybe. But anyone, and I mean anyone(football or not) that gets a new boss, new business structure, isn't going to miss all offseason to go dancing. You would want to stay, and make a great impression. He might not have ever said so, but he implied it and it was obvious.
     
  35. PMZQ

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    Wrong...partly. While JT never held out of TC, because he was gone when it started. He did however miss MANDATORY OTA's and all Dolphins organized charity events AFTER Dancing with the Stars was over.

    He made it loud and clear he was not happy to be here and wanted out. He got his wish, and I hope he is happy with it. He's not a Dolphin right now because of his own selfishness. He may have seemed a team player, but in the end his own ego, fueled by an agent that saw $$$ and (supposed) talk by some in Hollywood that JT was a superstar in the making.

    Well I don't see Hollywood begging for JT anymore, and I am skeptical that any of that "Hollywood Talk" actually happened. I believe in my heart it was a concerted and calculated effort by JT, to get himself out of a Dolphins uniform since late last season.
     
  36. Samphin

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    Boy, some of you guys are harsh.

    I am, and forever will be a fan of both Jason Taylor and Zach Thomas. I am willing to bet money that both of those guys will be rooting for us in the playoffs, as I would be for them had they made it.

    One offseason dispute is not going to sour JT's accomplishments here in Miami and everything he did for this team. He was a great Dolphin and leader and I miss seeing him on the defense.

    My admiration for Zach is unmatched. A modern day Sam Mills, but somehow even better. To me, he epitomizes what football is all about. Grit, determination, heart and desire. Its too bad that they couldn't be here for one last hurrah, but again, I will not trash them and will continue to be fans of both of them.
     
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  37. alen1

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    Great post Sam, I completely agree. An off-topic question but we're going to have a manifesto playoff edition right?
     
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  38. Samphin

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    If people want one, sure. :yes: :up:
     
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    I can't speak for anyone else but I want one. Its funny as hell, though the long nipples didn't mesh well with my cake that I was eating.
     
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  40. Kanye West

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    Thank you. I dont understand how people can be so harsh on Jason Taylor. All the things he did for us he you guys just seem to brush him off like all he has done here is cause trouble. Wow on little thing went wrong. Well if you chose to rember him that way then fine put I dont understand how you can do that. One little thing goes wrong and and you are on his case and he is one of the biggest trouble makers in the NFL. I just dont understand.
     

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