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Dr. Z new article (Welker, Satele, Allen)

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by wpgfishfan, Jan 10, 2008.

  1. wpgfishfan

    wpgfishfan Member

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    This is his all pro article

    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/writers/dr_z/01/09/all.pros/index.html

    You know how they're always saying about a it takes a new receiver time until to adjust to the quarterback? I mean, I heard that about the Colts' Anthony Gonzalez for more than half the season. But it took Brady about five minutes to get timed up with Welker.

    And what a boost that's been to the offense. Welker broke the Pats' single-season pass-catching record by 11 receptions, and tied for first in the NFL. He was Brady's hot man against the blitz, his bail-out receiver who always seemed to put a move on a defender just as he made the difficult catch. I've said many times that he's the greatest hot receiver I've ever seen.




    I'll have to award an asterisk to Miami rookie Samson Satele, very willing, very energetic. Big effort, some mistakes. He had a really outstanding game on the road against the Jets, in others he had his share of whiffs. Definitely a guy to watch for the future, though. He might be better as a guard.




    They have already called the psycho ward and reserved a place for me because Will Allen of the Dolphins is my other All-Pro corner. When I went to bed with Newman and Cromartie as my pair, I didn't feel good about it, in fact I felt miserable, kind of like Benedict Arnold did after he had let the side down. At 4 a.m. I was sitting at the kitchen table, giving the charts one last look. Sometimes I start phoning people, even at that hour, to crystallize my thinking, but I didn't want to hear a single other opinion about Allen because I knew it would be, "Waddya nuts?"

    I had him as the best player on the field when the Giants beat Miami in drizzly London. In fact, it was the best game I'd seen for any cornerback this season. I had another good one for him in the downpour at Pittsburgh. I had a couple more good ones and one bummer -- against the Jets the second time, when they dragged him across the field and completed a long one on him. He graded out higher than anyone except Newman.

    He was still a guy no one ever had picked for anything and, since he'll be 30 next season, probably never will. But dammit, he had been terrific on my modest little chart; did I have the courage of my own convictions or was I going to live and die the copout, the wimp, that all my high school teachers predicted I'd become? "No!" I hollered, jumping to my feet and waking , with a start, Little Jake, the tabby, who was sleeping on the table. "I will do what is right!" Thus, Will Allen is my All-Pro corner, and if you want my game-by-game charts, I will supply them, along with sobriety test results.

    And just in case you're wondering why Cromartie's name appears in Sports Illustrated, please bear in mind that it was done by somebody else. My man is Allen and that's all I'm going to say about it.
     
  2. wpgfishfan

    wpgfishfan Member

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    Nice to see Will recognized for his year

    Also nice to see at least we hit on that draft pick we gave up for Welker

    Wale was also picked to his team. Remember that debte for Brooker
     
  3. FinNasty

    FinNasty Alabama don’t want this... Staff Member Club Member

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    Satele at Guard? Why in the world would we do that???
     
  4. Conuficus

    Conuficus Premium Member Luxury Box

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    Well away from here
    Thats why he WRITES about football.
     
  5. IAFINFAN

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    I also love the fact that he couldn't sleep with is All Pro selections and at 4AM had to look over his list and added Will Allen and than felt better about it. Can't believe he lost sleep over that, like it's that big of a deal. Guy needs to get a grip.
     
  6. lbmclean_sj

    lbmclean_sj New Member

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    when I saw Will actually start locating the ball and making plays, my head 'bout exploded

    Saban must have done him more harm than good
     
  7. jdang307

    jdang307 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I don't know his reasoning but Dr. Z has written about football for a very very long time. Of all the writers on SI, he's the only one that I really listen to for football knowledge. Don't discount him so fast.

    What other writer on SI or even ESPN will take the time to write a whole article on the real west coast offense or the Air-Coryell etc.? Peter King? I think he's the biggest joke on all magazines and sites.
     
  8. High Definition

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    Dolphins fans also tend to underrate the hell out of Will Allen's play.
     
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  9. lbmclean_sj

    lbmclean_sj New Member

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    yes, everybody is screaming for a shut-down corner

    Allen is not Champ Bailey, but we have many greater needs than CB
     
  10. arsenal

    arsenal Sunglasses and advil

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    i think its because they watch him every play... and obviously EVERY corner gives up some plays...

    i think thats the problem with local fans usually underestimating their own players alot...

    its like people thought Ronnie Brown sucks because he would get stuffed some times and not break off long runs... but when you looked at the stats youd see his stuff percentage amongst the lowest and he DOES break of as many long runs as many prominent backs... but when all you see is highlights of LT breaking off TD runs on sportscenter you dont realize he is also getting plenty of 0 and 1 yard gains...

    so when these fans see highlight shows and see Antonio Cromartie only making interceptions, they dont see the times he let up big plays, or had wrong coverage, etc... so they assume those players are better... because they actually SEE when Allen messes up and assume no one else could make those kind of plays...

    thats my theory at least...
     
  11. dolpns13

    dolpns13 Chest Rockwell is my hero

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    no kidding... Dr Z is smoking some very good Ricky with that quote.
     
  12. dolpns13

    dolpns13 Chest Rockwell is my hero

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    Allen is a GREAT cover corner. Defending the pass he is one of the best in the league. His only problem is he doesnt get turnovers and his hands suck...
     
  13. kthurmus23

    kthurmus23 Canada's #1 Fin Fan

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    I was very happy to see this. All year I have felt that Allen was our best player on defence (at least this year he was). He may not be top 2 in the league, but he deserves any attention that comes his way. Sure he needs to improve his hands, but as long as he continues shutting down his side, I will be happy with him.
     
  14. padre31

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    Because we are hard up for Olineman Nasty, and Samson can really motor around for such a big man, and we can find a Center (Mormino?) fairly easily.

    Kevin Mawae played some guard, he did well when he moved there, Samson to me is a Mawae clone.
     
  15. twags500

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    Thank you!
    I seriously thought it was just me who thought this...
     
  16. Dfan06

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    Everyone knows Will Allen is capable(though he can't catch an int) But we need somebody opposite of him becuase teams are picking on TRavis Daniels and co.
     
  17. texanphinatic

    texanphinatic Senior Member

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    This, and the fact there is a very very large dropoff after him is the reason we need another CB. Will Allen is a very solid player, but we need some help in the TO dept., and someone to pair with him.
     
  18. shaunm000

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    Isnt Dr Z the guy that predicted us to go to the Super Bowl 2 seasons ago?
     
  19. dolpns13

    dolpns13 Chest Rockwell is my hero

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    :up: sure was
     
  20. Boomer

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    That's because most Dolphin fans are stupid.
    It's not a criticism, but you only have to read the Florida paper blogs to see how idiotic most "fans" are.
     
  21. Boomer

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    He's also the best football writer working the industry with a voluminous knowledge.
     
  22. cdz12250

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    So assume Yeremiah comes back, Jason Allen has another year to "get it," and we're set with Will Allen at one corner. Is another corner enough to fix what was a very porous secondary (even considering the practice squad players we had to play last year)? Who plays nickel, dime, and who's out there to draft or bring in as a FA?
     
  23. shaunm000

    shaunm000 Well-Known Member

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    Yeah i was thinking the same thing when i was watching that Dolphins vs Panthers SB 2 years ago!
     
  24. cnc66

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    made me laugh out loud...


    but the truth is.. I had hopes about that year too.. dang nicky satan....
     
  25. #1dolphinsfan

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    I really like Will Allen and yes we do need a Shut Down coner Allen is a good Coner but we need Someone that is a shutdown coner
     
  26. phinfanuk

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    Good on Z, he is my favourite writer and has been for a while.

    In regard to Satele, all the guy is saying is that he is at the moment a good center, but could be a great guard. Why is everyone on his back over that? A man can know a great deal about football without having been a top player.
     
  27. New Era

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    You are right about more pressing needs. But the Phins do need to DRAFT some corners and hope one of them hit. How much longer can W. Allen play at the same level? Was it one solid season on a horrible team? I hope not...

    But the Dolphins will need to grab up a corner to push for #2 next season and #1 within 2 seasons. If Miami cannot sign Samuel, Trufant or anyone that is near that level. They will have a weak spot once again. The secondary is in better shape than the DLINE. That is why I think Miami will Draft Chris Long or Dorsey Levens. After that we need to focus on...

    * CB
    * WR
    * RT
    * LG
    * DT/DE which ever we do not draft in the first.
    * S
    * QB

    They are not in order...but that is the main weak links right now from where I am sitting. I can see why so many are screaming for a CB. The free agent market should offer up a #1 or #2. The draft has some really good DB's as well. It is a good time to secure the position, like we once had with Surtain & Madison. Those were the good days, when JT or OGUN would pressure they would be there ready for the early errant throw...:ffic:
     
  28. SellTheFins

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    nice read
     
  29. ChambersWI

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    or just read some of the overreactions on finheaven:thumbup:
     
  30. 000

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    On welker, I said many times that last year he played for us, he was what chrebet was for the jets and beebe was for the bills and so on.
     
  31. Disgustipate

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    I dont think the Satele to Guard thing is too unreasonable, considering his strengths and weaknesses.

    At Center, he's not really free to pull as much as a guard was, and given his ability on screen plays that might be something he'd really excel at. In pass protection, alot of the time he'll be looking for guys to block and just settling for a combo block rather than neutrilizing a guy himself. At say, Left Guard, he'd be dealing pretty consistently with 3-techniques.

    His biggest problem this year seems to have been that he messed up 2-3 snaps, too.
     
  32. Frumundah Finnatic

    Frumundah Finnatic U Mad Miami?

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    Congrats to them.
     
  33. padre31

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    Being suggesting that would make sense for a couple of weeks now Disgustipate.

    He moves well, doesn't make mistakes (false starts etc) and it easier to find a Center then it is a top guard.

    Tuna or Sparano like huge guards though, Samson is not "huge" he lacks some size, but what if we put Samson at LG, and try Mormino at Center? Or draft one?
     
  34. Phinvision

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    I've always thought Samson would be a better guard in a system that emphasizes pulling its guards etc. like the old Redskins used to do.

    He is a good center, but would make a really good LG as well. I presume when Tuna comes in and reviews all the tapes on the players etc. he'll see that he has a great starting point in the middle of his OL, wherever he/Ireland/Sparano wants to put him.
     
  35. VanDolPhan

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    There is no such thing as a shutdown corner anymore. Technically you are describing Allen that way as Allen is great at covering.

    I think what your trying to say is we need a corner who can produce turnovers without giving up too many big plays.
     
  36. padre31

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    Would you move Satele to Guard?

    If so, who would you replace him with?
     
  37. Boomer

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    LOL. One swallow doesn't make a summer.
     

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