Round 1 WR Hakeem Nicks, North Carolina TE Brandon Pettigrew, Oklahoma State NT Peria Jerry, Mississippi ILB James Laurinaitis, Ohio State OLB Robert Ayers, Tennessee CB Darius Butler, UConn Round 2 WR Kenny Britt, Rutgers WR Juaquin Iglesias, Oklahoma TE James Casey, Rice TE Cornelius Ingram, Florida OG Duke Robinson, Oklahoma NT Sen'Derrick Marks, Auburn NT Ron Brace, Boston College OLB Connor Barwin, Cincinnati OLB Larry English, Northern Illinois OLB Clint Sintim, Virginia CB Sean Smith, Utah Round 3 WR Louis Murphy, Florida TE Travis Beckum, Wisconsin C Antoine Caldwell, Alabama NT Dorell Scott, Clemson ILB Tyrone McKenzie, South Florida CB Coye Francies, San Jose State SS Chip Vaughn, Wake Forest Round 4 WR Patrick Turner, USC TE Richard Quinn, North Carolina OT Fenuki Tupou, Oregon C Jonathan Luigs, Arkansas OLB Kyle Moore, USC SS/FS Courtney Greene, Rutgers Round 5 WR Johnny Knox, Abilene Christian RB James Davis, Clemson FB Tony Fiammetta, Syracuse NT Vance Walker, Georgia Tech OG Tyronne Green, Auburn OT Andrew Gardner, Georgia Tech ILB Frantz Joseph, FAU SS/FS Emanuel Cook, South Carolina Round 6 RB Ian Johnson, Boise State FB Quinn Johnson, LSU OG Louis Vasquez, Texas Tech OT Lydon Murtha, Nebraska ILB Lee Robinson, Alcorn State CB Don Carey, Norfolk State P Kevin Huber, Cincinnati Round 7 WR Deon Butler, Penn State RB Gartrell Johnson, Colorado State FB Marquez Branson, Central Arkansas TE Kory Sperry, Colorado State OG Greg Isdaner, West Virginia OT Robert Brewster, Ball State ILB Robert Francois, Boston College OLB Victor Butler, Oregon State CB Captain Munnerlyn, South Carolina FS Lendy Holmes, Oklahoma K/P Graham Gano, FSU Updating a list I did earlier these are the best players that should still be on the board when the Dolphins pick in each round. I'm sure we will target many others but these guys would be my first choice. For example I'm sure we will look at Clay Matthews in the 1st round but I don't list him because I believe Ayers is the better prospect and more likely to be drafted by the Dolphins. For me this is much better than a Mock Draft. I couldn't tell you who we will pick in the 2nd or 3rd round but I would be surprised if it wasn't one the guys I listed above because the Dolphins stack their board horizontally. For example if we miss on the best OLB in a particular round we won't necessarily move on to the next best OLB. We are more likely to move on to the best CB or WR. So go ahead and print this up and circle the picks as they happen.
Hey Red, i dont believe theres anyway possible Larry english is available in the 2nd. especially after the combine when people get a load of this kid. great football player with ridiculous measurables and athleticism. superior physique.
Yeah you zeroed in on two guys whose stock will probably rise. As we stand today English looks like an early 2nd round pick but I think you're right. After the Combine he might cement his status as a 1st round player. Tate needs to answer questions about his knee at the Combine and probably on his Pro Day as well. Depending on those workouts he'll either go early or late in the draft. Since those workouts haven't happened yet I'm holding onto the dream that he lasts until one of our 7th round picks. I'll definitely be updating this list after the Combine.
I guess the list for each round should get exponentially longer, with names in round 5 repeating in rounds 6 and 7. It's a good solid list. I personally think Robiskie will be a consideration from round 2 onward. He's got the proper attitude and technique, and he's been terribly productive as a red-zone possession receiver with not a lot to work with qb-wise at Ohio State
Robiskie really helped himself at the Senior Bowl. Looks like a solid 2nd round pick right now. If that's the case then I like Iglesias or Britt better. However Robiskie could surprise a lot of people because like you said he suffered from poor QB play his senior season.
From my perspective, i would'nt take a receiver in the 7th, if our front office is gonna target one, the kid better have some serious talent to overtake the four they have going into next year, bess, ginn and cammy form a really solid young core thats learning a new innovative offense together and are only getting bigger, stronger and better. so if they go for a receiver they must make the splash in the earlry rounds, which is something that i would disagree with as well. but to answer your question about who might fall that may have some value in the 7th, is quan cosby because of his age or sammie stroughter..
Very possible. Here's my thinking. I wouldn't want to use our 1st round pick on Robinson but if he slides to the 2nd round then I would pull the trigger depending on who is or isn't still on the board. I don't think Nicks will be there at #44 and I believe he is worth our 1st round pick.
Don't see Cosby or Stroughter still being there but anything is possible. Even if they were still on the board I doubt the Dolphins would pick either of them. I think you're right. If Tate isn't there the Dolphins shouldn't take a wideout in the 7th.
I could see the Fins taking a WR in this draft. You are right about the core unit not being easy to crack. However the Fins do need depth and none of the players are a lock to be on the team in 2 seasons. Cam might come back strong...but lets be real about Cam. He is a very solid player that's about it. Now there is NOTHING wrong with that, he is still better than a lot of WR's in the NFL. Ginn has great potential and also has an injury concern about taking the big hits. If he keeps healthy over the next couple of seasons...that should disappear. Bess just wants to make plays...don't get in his way, he does not care how big you are. You will need to bring a friend to take down this little man. London might be the missing link to the WR core. The Fins need a TALL WR that can make some plays. He saw a lot of action in the playoff lost to the Ravens. Let's see if he can build from that this season. There is plenty of competition in this draft past the 4th round that could compete with him. But again none are a lock to be here in a few years. So much can happen in a few years. The Fins had a HUGE problem vs. the Ravens only having 2 WR's for a couple of series. We got lucky this season with injuries...we did not lose to many of our best players. That does not always happen...Miami will look to have 5 ready for the season. Let's not forget that Miami does not have a WR that is truly talented enough RIGHT NOW to play as the #1. That will Limit the type of players we look to pick up as well... 1) Ginn (Moves to the slot (Bess or Ginn) with 3 WR's in the game) 2) Bess (Starts with only 2 WR's in the Game) 3) Cam (Moves to the outside with 3 WR's in the game) 4) London (Moves to the outside with 4 WR's in the game) 5) Rookie (Only sees the field to give breathers and spread attacks) Bess really is going to be much better next season. He played great for a rookie last season, much less for an undrafted rookie. Before Bess stepped up and made catch after catch and carrying defenders for an extra 3-6 yards...Cam was a lock as the #2. But both Bess & Cam play the same role for Miami's offense. They both are better catching the underneath ball and turning up field. They can go across the middle and have hands to make the tough catch. I think Bess will end up our #2 starter and move to the slot with 3+ WRs in the game.
I think Robiskie is a nice player who needs to put it all together. He runs good routes, he knows when to break off routes and come back to the quarterback, and he's a fine blocker; does a good job of redirecting. but the issue with him is his hands. He's inconsistent in that aspect of his game as he tends to drop passes he shouldn't. Also, he's not always so willing when blocking.
Looks like a really credible list Big Red.. So in your mock, you see Sean Smith and Darius Butler as late #2 picks? Robert Veikune would look nice in rds 5-7 as would Houston's Phil (?) Hunt and maybe the UConn OLB//DE..Brown?
Hunt is too small. Brown is talented but he doesn't have his motor always running IIRC. Richard's guy, Julius Williams, does more with less (talent).
That is what makes them later round guys Alen, they are sort of bargain bin, dented can players who have some skills, but not the whole package on paper. We are always looking for Lb's/De who can play special teams, if they can stick, maybe they show they can play. And heck, last year in the 5-7 range we took two guys who never really had the chance to play, one of those guys would have good shot at seeing the field.
I think if the Phins add a WR it will be a WR with great size, we have the small quick guys what we need is the jump ball guy that scares everyone in the redzone. I personally like Greg Carr in the 7th. He has things you cant teach, even though he needs alot of coaching. 6'6 and does a great job on going after jump balls. Simply putting him in the game inside the 10 will open things up for others because you have to pay attention to a guy 6'6 that can jump. With them looking at Ramses I think if we dont take him I wouldnt be surprised to see Carr late.
He would be worth a #7 or a Camp Invitation. I sort of like Mandeville from Northeastern, 6'6 and plays Te.
Assuming that we don't land a Dansby, Peppers, or Scott in Fa... If Larry English is still on the board and we take Nicks or Britt over him, I'm gonna be pissed. I don't see the point in taking a WR who's probably going to take at least 2 years to develop over a guy who should be able to step in and start contributing Day 1. IMO, we would be delaying our improvement if we went WR in the 1st.
As we stand today prior to the Combine I don't think we can say whether Butler would be a late or early #2 pick. Smith would have to be selected with our earlier 2nd round pick but a slow 40 at the Combine could mean he'd still be there at #56. You mean David Veikune right? I soured on him after his poor performance in the Hawaii Bowl. I don't know about rds 5-7 because NFL Draft Scout currently has him projected in rds 3-4. I believe Matt Shaughnessy, Alen's guy Lawrence Sidbury, or Kyle Moore would be all better options in Rounds 3, 4, or 5. I have to agree with Alen about Cody Brown's motor. I recently watched the International Bowl which I had recorded and Brown would often just stop after unsuccessfully rushing the passer. Instead of chasing the play Brown would just stand there as if to say "Oh well I didn't sack the QB." However his teammate Julius Williams never stopped. I would rather bring in Williams as an UDFA than use a pick on Brown. Williams can set the edge as well as rush the passer. I don't know if Williams would stick but you have to think that some of Brown's sacks were a result of blockers being preoccupied by his teammate. It's a long shot for any player selected in the 5-7 range to get a chance to play. That's why Quinn Johnson makes the most sense to me in the 5th round. He would be our starting FB. I don't think Veikune, Hunt, or Brown will make it to the 7th round.
I'd be surprised to see him at 44, let alone 56. I could actually see him going to New England in the first round. I think Williams would make this team. He's damn strong and could be a rotational guy at the strong side or weak side linebacker spots once Porter is done/gone.
Carr is a big wideout who could be a redzone threat but I don't believe he is worth a 7th round pick. Not unless he can play special teams. If he goes undrafted I would bring him in and see if he has the makings of a 4th or 5th wideout. We already have Brandon London. Would Carr be an upgrade? I don't think so but who knows? If Raji and Laurinaitis are off the board I wouldn't be surprised if Hakeem Nicks was our 1st round pick. I wouldn't be surprised if he was one of our starting wideouts on Day 1 either. However I hear what you're saying. Larry English seems like a player who could come in and contribute right away. We'll just have to wait until the Combine to see if his stock rises. He took a hit after a poor showing in the Senior Bowl game. The consensus is that it was due to him being out of position in a 4-3 defense and he did have a good week of practice. If he doesn't have a great workout at Indianapolis it's possible we pick Hicks at #25 and English at #44.
From the National Football Post article that joeydolfan posted: A lot will be riding on Smith's 40 at the Combine.
I would be stunned if Robiskie falls past the 2nd round. Besides Nicks, he is the best route runner in the draft.
Nicks would be a 1st rounder on my board already, but WR will most likely not be such a premium same as last years draft.
Here's more from that National Football Post article that joeydolfan posted: Interesting cutoff point. Why wouldn't Nicks escape the first 25 selections? Which team has the 25th pick?
Depends as usual, that is why we speculate. Veikune good in the Shrine Bowl, but he has a slower 40 time that will keep him out of anything below rd 5 IMO. I like Shaughenessy, but Sidbury or Moore are more typical Parcells/Ireland type players. That was the game the UConn rb went wild wasn't it? The thing about a guy doing that is there are times when they are playing with an injury that "we" do not know about. Well, the one thing about the Ireland/Tuna way of scouting is they have a smaller draft board then most, and they have specific things they look for in the way of size and height, whether Brown or Williams fits their mold remains to be seen. I dropped Johnson and replaced him with Sunderland from Georgia as he is running back fast, down in the high 4'6's, and just about the same size. That is what makes looking at the later rounds fun (to me) trying to find the guys who are later round gems who no one has heard of, or who disappointed in the Combine or Bowl Games.
How so? Every play? This isn't just one game he does it. You ever watched Brian Orakpo play? Cody Brown is the same when it comes to the motor.
From what I've seen (Shrine Bowl, Senior Bowl) Sidbury and Moore are more physical then Shaughenessy. Depends Alen, I haven't watched every play. And when UConn played I was all eyes on Darius Butler and a bit on Beatty.
I don't know about that. Shaughnessey is a fine player though. He does it often. Just sits back and watches when the play is away from him.
Sintim's stock dropped after the Senior Bowl. He projects as an early 2nd round pick now. Besides I really like Aaron Maybin in the 1st round if we go in that direction. Maybin is only 20 years old. He wouldn't contribute right away but his potential is unmeasurable right now. Not only is he a great athlete but he's also very smart and his character is unblemished. If he stayed in school he might have been the first overall pick in 2010.
NFL Draft Scout has him at 38 now. Previously they ranked him in the mid-20s. http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/top64.php?draftyear=2009 He's no longer listed among their Top 5 OLB. http://www.nfldraftscout.com/rating...OLB&draftyear=2009&sortorder=tsxpos&order=ASC Scout.com has him at 39. http://profootball.scout.com/a.z?s=127&p=9&c=12&yr=2009&nid=83&lnid=124&rc=4&pid=88&pg=1 Draft Countdown has him on the bubble at 31. http://www.draftcountdown.com/rankings/top.php None of this means Sintim won't go in the 1st round of course. I was just responding to sports24/7 as to why I didn't list him among my top picks. I don't doubt the Dolphins will be looking at him. However it's possible that after the Senior Bowl Sintim might now be a position where he needs to have a very good workout at the Combine to cement his status as a 1st round pick.
Good news for us though Alen, strategically we now have a shot at him at #44 and still pick our guy at #25...like the Merling situation last season.
