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Official SuperBowl Thread

Discussion in 'Other NFL' started by FinSane, Feb 1, 2009.

  1. dolfan94

    dolfan94 New Member

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    Not everybody's bets have a spread. Some people just bet on who's going to win the game
     
  2. Firesole

    Firesole Season Ticket Holder

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    I'm amazed that so many people see different things. I don't know if your watching a 19" inch tv, or no HDTV or what, maybe people are drunk, but it was painfully clear to me with and without the replay that it was an incomplete pass and not a fumble. I saw it as it happened, just as I called the other 2 plays correctly that were overturned( bens first drive tc run and the other Warner fumble that was overturned)
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  3. Sethdaddy8

    Sethdaddy8 Well-Known Member

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    lol, hines ward has been crying for 40 minutes now.
     
  4. peastri

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    I may be wrong but I don't think so. Warner had a mighty tight grip on that ball. You can see the ball follow the motion of his arm. I couldn't believe the fumble call earlier when he so obviously had forward motion on the throw that forced Ari to use a challenge unecessarily. I definitely couldn't believe it when it happened a second time and the refs awarded it to Pitt - again.

    Even if it had been a fumble it still should have been reviewed, a borderline play like that (not that I really think it was borderline) can't just be swept under the rug.
     
  5. Stitches

    Stitches ThePhin's Biggest Killjoy Luxury Box

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    Dammit, enough with the Ben R. love. His WRs did the leg work, and the Zona D choked.
     
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  6. byroan

    byroan Giggity Staff Member Administrator Luxury Box

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    Holmes is MVP. I think Harrison deserved it just as much. AZ was getting ready to get at least 3 points, and he got his team 7.
     
  7. HolliFinFan

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    Warner's arm was held before he had a chance to advance the ball forward. As he tried to, the defender stripped it. I know lots of people wanted the Cards to win. It was a heck of a game, for sure. That play was clearly a fumble, and it seems as though the refs saw it that way as well. Not nonchalant. Realistic. Game over. Steelers win their sixth.
     
  8. High Definition

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    All I got for this Super Bowl is confirmation that Larry Fitzgerald is the best player in the NFL. That's it. In my unbiased opinion, this had to be the worst officiating Super Bowl I've seen in my life. Not crediting the officials for Pittsburgh's amazing heart and efforts, but they DID play a role in this game as much as I hate to say it.
     
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  9. sking29

    sking29 What it takes to be cool

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    Many times especially with stupid stupid penalties. The offense failed to execute a couple of times as well.
     
  10. Regan21286

    Regan21286 MCAT's, EMT's, AMCAS, ugh

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    It was certainly not a last play. 15 seconds can get you a quick sideline out if you get a safety valve. And if you have to throw into heavy coverage, you gotta plant your feet to make the long throw because you sure as hell don't wanna under-throw it. Warner did not have the time or cushion to do that which is why he had to move around. ****, he had to plant his feet to throw just a 20 yard one much less a 40 yard ball. 20 yards gets you nothing there unless it's to the sideline. You want that? The minute he could plant his feet in under 5 seconds, there'd be someone with their arm on his too. You sure as hell better move and get somewhere to set your feet and also give the WR's a chance to get to the endzone. At the end, he had no choice.

    Indeed, in fact it almost looked like Woodley's body was what Warner had to push against to throw it. The fact that he had to push and then the way the ball comes out suggests forward pass. If it were a fumble, the ball wouldn't have traveled so far.
     
  11. HolliFinFan

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    Harrison blew it with the boneheaded penalty. Lucky he was not kicked out of the game. I was disappointed in him on that penalty, for sure.
     
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  12. Rocky Raccoon

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    Oh give me a break. Big Ben did what a lot of people thought he couldn't do...deliver with the game on the line. He had a great game and had one of the best game-winning drive, if not the best, in NFL history in crunch time. He should have been MVP IMO.

    Congrats to the Steelers! It was a great game!
     
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  13. Stitches

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    Better payout if you are right?

    I know odds are that whatever team you think is going to win you should bet on regardless of the spread, but I would still play the spread if I was picking the underdog. (I mean historically the team that wins covers the spread more often than not)
     
  14. byroan

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    Definitely. He should be fined for that.
     
  15. alen1

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    I'm watching it right now in slow motion. I stopped it right where Woodley hits the ball and it falls out of Warner's hand. Warner is leaning back and Warner has a forward motion - the ball and his hand is at his shoulders going forward as the ball comes out. Incomplete pass IMO.
     
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  16. byroan

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    Yes, if you take the underdog.
     
  17. Stitches

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    What!?

    Both harrison and Holmes were more deserving. Even Fitzgerald was more deserving.
     
  18. daphins

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    There are times when I think calls could go either way (the TD catch I think was a TD, others disagree and I can see their point....not that it could be oveturned IMO but I see the doubts) but this isn't one of them IMO. His arm was going forward, he was gripping the ball. It is clearly NOT a fumble and at the very lest merits a review.
     
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  19. Rocky Raccoon

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    I disagree. I thought the refs called the game right. A penalty is a penalty.
     
  20. Stitches

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    You didn't think the Seahawks vs Steelers was worse?
     
  21. sking29

    sking29 What it takes to be cool

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    I actually think Big Ben came up just as his name said "Big." He made the throws when he had to and made some great escapes. I didn't see one thing that Ben did that should have credit taken away from him. Without his amazing escapes his WRs would have never had the chance to do anything.
     
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  22. alen1

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    I thought there was one penalty that was a bad call but that's about it.
     
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  23. NJFINSFAN1

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    The ball was out, it went forward with his motion.

    I wanted the Cards to win, but it was a fumble, but they should have has an official review.

    Great game, but man the Ref's were ticky tack on the calls today.
     
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  24. Rocky Raccoon

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    All players you mentioned could be argued, but when a QB gets the ball back with 2 minutes left, needing a TD to win the Super Bowl, then drives his team all the way down the field with unreal scrambling and throwing the game-winning TD pass...that to me is something truly special.
     
  25. MrClean

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    Seahawks-Steelers was worse officiating IMO.
     
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  26. peastri

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    I saw it as clearly an incomplete pass. In every replay, at every angle. In full motion and slow.

    I wanted Ari to win but said Pitt would. Ari did have a chance to nail the game but gave it away, quite easily too. It was their fault they lost, it shouldn't have come down to that play. But a play like that, in a game like that? sorry whether the call on the field was right or not, it has to be reviewed.
     
  27. texanphinatic

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    Why wasnt Warner and the Cards hollering at the refs? From what I saw, Warner just accepted it and left. If he thought it was a fumble wouldnt have been in the refs face demanding a replay?

    I know the ref is under no obligation to give it to him, but why wouldnt he make a go of it? The players do for everything else.
     
  28. daphins

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    +1
     
  29. NJFINSFAN1

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    No, there were more bad calls in this game. But I think it effected the outcome more in the seahawk game if that makes any sense.
     
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  30. High Definition

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    Usually I'd laugh at that "NO! NO! NO! OH NO!" imagine.

    But I want to cry for Fitzgerald.
     
  31. alen1

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    I could be wrong here but I don't remember Warner ever being a very vocal guy and usually, you go under the booth when game-changing plays happen.
     
  32. Sethdaddy8

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    why do a quick out? either way, you're throwing into an endzone with 8 defenders. whether its from 30 or 45 yards.
    only, you risk the wr getting tackled in bounds, on the quick out.

    15 seconds, if the ball is caught in bounds, it is 100% game over. its 10 seconds left by the time he releases it, 5 by the time the wr gets tackled, and then the reset by the refs...games over. he had that one and only shot. he needed to take a clean drop and let it rip. the WRs wouldve been in the endzone. he had all sorts of room in the pocket, he held it too long. and 45 yards is not too hard a throw to make. you just need to lob it up.
     
  33. Regan21286

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    Well there you go, he had 0 chance to make a clean drop. The pocket was collapsing and you have a very high chance of a defender batting the ball or hitting the arm in that situation.
     
  34. texanphinatic

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    Anyone then, Fitz, Whizzy, Boldin, anyone. Everyone seemed to wrap it up at that point.
     
  35. High Definition

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    2/3 of those 15-yard personal fouls on the drive in the third Q were horrendous.

    Wasn't a fan of the "fumble" at the end of the game either.
     
  36. sking29

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    What was the harm in looking at that last play? Everyone can agree it was questionable, so really what could have been in the harm in just reviewing the play?
     
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    Most everyone else wouldn't have seen the play, or at least had a legitimate view of it. Warner didn't blow up much on the earlier incomplete pass that was coach challenged. Who are you supposed to complain to when you're relying on upstairs?
     
  38. dont fumble

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    I think this game sums up the season the officials had. Just not a very good one. I don't know why they didn't review the last play, but the most important call to me was a non-call on the Int return TD. Hightower (or James) was clearly blocked in the back, make that call and you have a completely different ball game. NFL refs just have too much of an impact on these games. But to be fair, football it very tough game to officiate.
    Congrats to the Steelers, they deserved it because they were cheated out of the Superbowl a couple of times!
     
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  39. daphins

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    Awful holding on that return too. Wish it had been called but it's a fast moving situation too so I understand how they miss that stuff. There was a ton of holding by the Pitt OL that wasn't called though....and molesting Fitz on that TD play...bah.
     
  40. Firesole

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    At least they didn't get cheated out of one by a tuck rule. If I'm a Raider fan I'd still be *****ing everyday about that game.
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