Gulp is right. But, then again, other colliders like this exist and they don't create black holes and whatnot so I think we're ok.
There is always a little aprehension when sailing in unchartered waters . They are looking for particles that in theory exist but are so rare and difficult to find that they built this huge collider to do so. One of the theories is that gravity may be associated with a particle.
I'm all for science, but re-engineering the big bang isn't something I'd consider worth pursuing, especially on this planet. Didn't they send a robot to Mars? Let the Martians deal with the potential repercussions. Once they prove an elementary particle existed that spawned the entirety of the physical phenomena of the universe, then what? If quantum mechanics and relativity are FINALLY linked in a grand universal theory, then what? What exactly does this lead toward? Mathematical models explaining the nature of everything would provide predictions toward everything. Could the scientific community really handle that type of information? Could humanity? Philosophically speaking, would proof of a unifying, all-encompassing, definitive source of all the matter and energy of the current universal state be refutative or supportive of the existence of God? What if it was learned that simple elementary particles, like the Higgs Boson, achieved their mass via simple field manipulation? What are the consequences of elucidating a fundamental physical law that defines everything in existence?
You just showed why even the most remarkable of discoveries won't make that big of a difference. Most will be too busy arguing about it or ignoring it to realize that their entire existance was just "solved" on a chalkboard.
Honestly, fears of a black hole being created in the LHC and swallowing the earth are complete horse****. Even if we're wrong that the black hole will evaporated nearly instantaneously, it still won't cause any damage for a very simple reason: the total gravitational pull of this micro black hole will be equivalent to the total gravitational pull of the particles that created it. A couple particles don't have a whole lot of gravitational pull. To put it in perspective, the sun has a radius of just under 700000km. If it were to turn into a black hole, it’s event horizon would have a radius of 3km. A black hole created from 2 particles smashed together could probably fall all the way to the earth’s core without touching anything. Once there it might carve out a tiny hole for itself, but it would be something measured in nanometers or less. Since the gravity of the black hole would still be equal to the gravity of the few atoms that went into it, the net effect on the earth’s gravity isn’t immeasurable, it’s zero. Plus there’s the fact that cosmic rays smash into earth’s atmosphere every second with as much force or more as what’s going to happen in the LHC. If black holes were really a threat, the Earth probably would have been swallowed up billions of years ago.
I so want all the Physicist standing near this contraption with their clipboards, etc to dissapear when they turn it on...just dissapear....then when they switch it off...they can re-appear...but dang, that image is in my head, and it would be so funny. Physicist #1 - Oops, lets not do that again Physicist #2 - Do it again, Do it again Physicist #3 - Guess we did something wrong Physicist #4 - "Guess we did something wrong" - yeah, guess we did, guess we did"
Very true Derek, but I would consider this very much alike people thinking the world was flat. Although we havent traveled in "These Waters", traveling in similar waters has been going on for 60 some years.....ever since Fermi and Robert Oppenheimer (Oppie) opened up business in the Mountains of Northern New Mexico. There are several colliders scattered here and there, many many very aggresive experiments have already been done and accomplished. This is going to be about as exciting as 2000k turned out to be kids. Also, although Gravity may be associated with Particle acceleration and implosion, the Conervation of Energy Law will hold true here as anywhere in nature
Zero is an immeasurable number for the record. Of course we can derive 3-sigma, and close in on 6 and 7 sigma, but zero, by definition is impossible to measure. Of course this eludes back to my arguement on Conservation of Energy, and there is Energy involved...just that everything will return to equilibrium almost faster than we would be able to measure it...
It's not my profession, but I do have an avid interest in this sort of thing. That's about it. Sure I can measure it. I merely have to count the number of Ferrari's I own.
Scientists Not So Sure 'Doomsday Machine' Won't Destroy World http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,483477,00.html I just wanted to bump this thread with this bit of news.
well its all theory socan't really say for sure. Besides math calculations I doubt there has been any formal expermintation in this area.
If these guys are wrong and the the Black Hole is able to grow large enough to swallow the earth, I am going to be seriously pissed.
USA gaining ground on Cern collider in race to destroy world http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7893689.stm Had a mental image of scientists in pocket proctetors bowing up to each other. USA! USA! USA! We can do it!
If your talking about this collider experiment in specific, i disagree. This experiment is lightyears away from "solving" our existence regardless of result. How something came from nothing will still be a mystery.
