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Dolphins will have plenty of wide-outs to choose from in NFL Draft

Discussion in 'NFL Draft Forum' started by Sceeto, Feb 23, 2009.

  1. Sceeto

    Sceeto Well-Known Member

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    http://www.kffl.com/gnews.php?id=555265

    Those are my first and second choices for our 2a pick. I hope one of them is still there. ;)
     
  2. Stitches

    Stitches ThePhin's Biggest Killjoy Luxury Box

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    Robiskie I would be ok with at 2b, not 2a.

    Britt should be gone before 44, but if not I hope we snatch him up.
     
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  3. Sceeto

    Sceeto Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, Britt is the guy whom I really want with our 2a. I really hope he is still there, though I doubt it. Seeing the success of another big, Big East receiver in Fitzgerald, whose records were broken by Britt, I believe, I assume will make it even more tempting for teams to snatch him up early. Robiskie is a back-up plan and yes, it would be much better if he slid to the 2b pick.
     
  4. Roman529

    Roman529 Senior Member

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    Hakeem Nicks is the WR we want with the 25th pick, if we don't take Alex Mack. I think Britt would be a
    good pick at 2A....I doubt Nicks would still be on the board after the 1st round.
     
  5. NickyNapoleon

    NickyNapoleon Active Member

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    Im really on the Robiskie bandwagon, I think hes going to be alot like TJ Howsyamomma. I think he can be the 70 catch 800-1000 yard receiver. Hes got good size at a shade under 6'3 and he understands how to run routes. Im a BIG fan...
     
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  6. padre31

    padre31 Premium Member Luxury Box

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    I'd prefer taking Ramses Barden in Rd 3 or 4.

    Or Hakeem Nicks if he makes it to #25.
     
  7. Stitches

    Stitches ThePhin's Biggest Killjoy Luxury Box

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    I don't get what makes Nicks at 25 more valuable than Britt at 44 to be honest (though I think Britt will be gone before that). Barden in rd 4 would be great, but I'd expect him to be gone some time in rd 3.
     
  8. Regan21286

    Regan21286 MCAT's, EMT's, AMCAS, ugh

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    My sentiments exactly.

    Barden shouldn't even be touched until the 4th but some eager GM could take him before then.
     
  9. texanphinatic

    texanphinatic Senior Member

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    I dont see Nicks going before 25 to be honest. Crabtree, Macklin, Harvin and Heyward-Bey are all ahead of him imo and I dont see 5 teams going WR in the first. I doubt he makes it to 44, but doubt we take him at 25 unless there is a total lack of defenders, which I doubt.
    Britt at 44 is a possibility, but I think that will heavily depend on who else is available-I really think our first few picks are defense unless the value just isnt there.
     
  10. Regan21286

    Regan21286 MCAT's, EMT's, AMCAS, ugh

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    In terms of WR polish, potential, and ability I'd place Nicks above Maclin, Heyward-Bey, and Harvin. Nicks is a possibility at 25 for a team looking for more immediate WR help. Guys like Harvin, Bey, and Maclin will definitely need some work.
     
  11. texanphinatic

    texanphinatic Senior Member

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    They will need some work, but their big play ability and explosiveness are what will draw teams in.
    Nicks as a known commodity is a relatively safe pick. You know what your getting and while he might be a solid reciever, hes not gonna be a gamebreaker. I dont think hes what teams will look for with a top pick. I could always be wrong of course, but Id feel fairly safe in saying Nicks will make the second round.
     
  12. djphinfan

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    howsyourmama.....now thats some funny sh@#....i love the fact that we continue to reinvent the name tj whosyourmama
     
  13. Regan21286

    Regan21286 MCAT's, EMT's, AMCAS, ugh

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    I think Nicks has just as much gamebreaking ability as the rest of them.
     
  14. rafael

    rafael Well-Known Member

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    I have no problem with labeling Nicks as a potential game breaker. And as a fit for this Dolphin team I would rate him ahead every WR not named Crabtree.
     
  15. texanphinatic

    texanphinatic Senior Member

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    I do think Nicks would be the best WR we could realisticly aquire. We dont need another Ginn in Harvin, we dont need another project WR in Heyward-bey. Nicks would fit well as a possession type WR-a big guy with great hands who can make some plays, especially in the red zone.
    I just dont feel hes as dynamic as some of the Nicks lovers here keep claiming. Hes a bottom of round 1 early round 2 guy. I get the feeling some people feel hes better than that and I dont. That doesnt mean I will be upset if we take him at 25, I think thats about the upper end of where he should be going.

    I still think it will depend more on what defensive players are around than anything if we go for Nicks or not.
     
  16. ckparrothead

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    I don't see all these Ginn-Harvin comparisons. I just think they're misguided.

    If Miami wants size, they could get Patrick Turner, Ramses Barden, maybe Brian Robiskie, etc. Robiskie would probably work well with Pennington.

    Heck I think a guy like Jarett Dillard will just continue to work harder and harder and become a good WR...and he can jump a mile in the air too so he'd be a red zone threat even if only at 5'10" and 190 pounds.
     
  17. rafael

    rafael Well-Known Member

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    IMO Nicks is much more than just a possession/redzone guy. I think his play-making ability is more similar to a Fitzgerald type. Basically a smaller Fitz (therefore less dominant with the ball in the air) but with a little better after the catch ability.

    As for the defensive players that are options, I only see two that I might take over Nicks.

    Larry English: I love his first step but we did add a Cameron Wake for the same role. I'd like to double up but it doesn't have to be at #25 and I like several of the guys who'll be available in 2nd round at LB.

    Maualuga: He has some burst but some question marks in terms of instincts. He's also not as big as I thought he was. And I don't value the ILB position as much as WR. I would probably be just as happy picking up a Franz Joseph in the 5th.
     
  18. NickyNapoleon

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    Im on record in this thread as saying that I would love Robiskie, I think he is a solid number 2 potential number 1. I think he can be that 70 catch 900-1000 yard guy to compliment Ginn and let Camarillo, Bess, and co to work the middle of the field. I think he runs his routes well, has good size and understands the work ethic needed to make it in teh NFL.
     
  19. texanphinatic

    texanphinatic Senior Member

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    I can see lots of defenders that could be around for us that Id rather take than a WR. You never know who falls. Malaugua, Maybin, English, Cushing, a few of the CBs etc etc. Id rather spend our first on defense personally, and go for a guy like Robiskie in the 2b slot, or a guy like Barden in 3.
     
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    I don't think Maybin falls. Cushing is one of my top bust candidates. And the rule changes have made CB a non-impact position. I don't see anybody other than English who I'd rate above Nicks and I see WR as a greater need since we added Wake. Now I might still have Alex Mack above Nicks but there's a lot of buzz that we'll pursue Brown heavily.
     
  21. Sceeto

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    A guy like Britt is the type of WR we need, IMO. We need a go-up-and-get-it type of guy whom could be a good red-zone threat, as well as being a guy that Penny can chuck it up to and have confidence that our guy is going to be able to go up and get it, ala Fitz, Boldin, A. Johnson, etc. We have great slot, possession speedsters types in Bess, Ginn and Camarillo. Adding another WR like those guys would be pointless, IMO. We need that bigger, dominant guy to compliment those other guys whom we have. With the smaller, quicker slot guys, as a QB, you have to so much more accurate. You have to hope your guy runs a great route and can get good separation in order to hit them, but having that one bigger guy would be great for Penny for when a play breaks down or no one can get open with that big separation, like I said before, he would be able to chuck up a few and have confidence that our guy is going to go up and get it. JMHO.
     
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    I don't agree with it being pointless, but I do agree with the rest of your post and share your opinion there.
     
  23. Sceeto

    Sceeto Well-Known Member

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    I hear ya'..well maybe not pointless, but it's definitely not a necessity. It wouldn't be the wise pick, IMO, not that high. ;)
     
  24. rafael

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    In my experience, the biggest factors in whether a college WR makes the jump to the NFL successfully is how well he runs routes and how naturally he catches the ball. I see a big guy like Nicks who runs great routes and has great hands as a guy who has a great chance to succeed. I see a guy like Britt or Bey who, at best run inconsistent routes and have inferior hands as a much greater risk without much upside. And other than potentially London, we have nobody comparable on our team.
     
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    I can agree on Nicks, to me he looks like a really good running back who is playing wide receiver, just a physical load who can take a play to the house the way Boldin can.
     
  26. Stitches

    Stitches ThePhin's Biggest Killjoy Luxury Box

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    What makes you think he has inferior hands? I've watched him a handful of times and never came away with that idea.
     
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    Regan21286 MCAT's, EMT's, AMCAS, ugh

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    I presume you consider inconsistent routes and inferior hands as Bey's attributes but I don't feel Britt has either. Kenny Britt can run great routes and at worst, decent routes, plus I don't consider his hands as any major issue.
     
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  28. Sceeto

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    First of all, Nicks will be far gone by #25, IMO, so I don't even really put him in the discussion. I want Britt at 2a, which is probably unlikely. I do think Nicks will be a solid player, but I still think that a guy like Britt is much more of the type of receiver we need at this point, for the reasons which I listed previously. I don't know where the "inconsistent routes" and "inferior hands" thing comes from, not from what I've seen, at least regarding Britt. I believe he broke Fitzgerald's Big East receiving records and Fitz turned out to be an o.k. receiver.;) I'm not saying he'll definitely turn out to be as good a pro. as Fitz, but that's the type of receiver we need, IMO.
     

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