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Peronnel-wise, who is staying and going in the next couple of years

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by Austin Tatious, Jan 16, 2008.

  1. Austin Tatious

    Austin Tatious New Member

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    Who I would like to see stay:

    Beck
    Brown
    Lo Booker
    Ginn
    Carey
    Satele
    Wright
    Roth
    Crowder
    J Allen
    W Allen
    Feely

    That's a paltry 12.

    Here are some guys I hope and think can improve enough to stay

    Hadnot- depends on how much $ he wants, his lack of discipline (penalties) and consistency mitigates against a big payday
    Mormino
    Toledo-hasn't shown anything but that he can't even get out of a hottub safely, but has considerable athletic ability
    Marquay Love (I think he is a project who can surprise to the upside)
    Lemon--I doubt he stays
    R Williams
    Chatman
    Mauia
    Soliai--has tools but poor technique
    Pope (good player but doubt he fits Ireland and Parcells' prototype)
    Lehan, good extra d-back
    Bell-not under contract and coming off injury
    Fields--may improve
    Porter--played well second half of year, and should have some gas left in tank

    That's another 13. Figure 5-6 of them fit in.

    Holiday, Thomas, Taylor, M Booker: solid to great players but my guess is their age moves them out of town one way or another.

    No thank you: Hagan, Shelton, Liwienski, Martin, Peelle, Spragan, et al

    That would be a total of 17-18 guys that may still be here in a couple of years. So we have to find what, 30 guys over the next couple of years?

    If we draft well, we could get half of them through the draft. Another 4 or 5 a year in free agency, and that is what will happen. We obviously need loads of help up and down the roster, but quarterback, receiver/tight end and defensive line are dramatic problem areas. But o-line, linebackers and secondary are also going to need lots of help. It's pretty pathetic when you break it down.
     
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  2. DolfanAdam

    DolfanAdam New Member

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    while there are no definites, I would imagine possibly within the next two weeks, you will begin to hear who won't be returning as Sparano, Ireland, and Parcells have the oppurtunity to work together on a full talent evaluation. I think certain players are much more likely to be in the safe zone given, the cap hit we would take if we lost them, and/or their future potential. Off the top my head the obvious people likely to be out would be Green, Lemon, Traylor, and further down the line I'd say there are big question marks over the heads of Ricky Williams, and Zach Thomas.

    I'm fairly confident we will see Ginn and Beck return, and most likely Ronnie and Jason unless an exceptional offer arises for either of them.

    Really though I could easily see the majority of the roster up in the air for next season. It all depends on how many quality people we can obtain via trade and draft, I still think the effects of this restructuring won't be totally evident until the 09 season.
     
  3. Passrusher

    Passrusher New Member

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    In the draft war room
    I liked Sparano's comment of "we WILL be a disciplined football team". It's about darn time!!!
     
  4. Austin Tatious

    Austin Tatious New Member

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    I agree Passrusher. The number of penalties, lack of conditioning, and poor clutch play were symptamatic of a poorly disciplined team. I remember fondly when Shula had this team the least penalized year in and year out, and a team that was well conditioned.
     
  5. Conuficus

    Conuficus Premium Member Luxury Box

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    Well away from here
    I agree with most of what you said. Except I think ZT is gone - Parcells is a guy who could make that cut and live through it. Cam and Mueller would not survive such a move. Also I think we will see a clear pattern develop this year. By that I mean we will really know after the draft where this team is heading as far as the roster. Both by the picks themselves, but also the depth, and designation of what talent the coaching staff specifically brings in.
    e.g. better zone CB's versus better man to man players etc.

    Parcells and his ideals for teams he works for typically take a year to occur historically speaking.
     
  6. IAFINFAN

    IAFINFAN New Member

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    I really hope that what Tony says, he means. Nothing he has done so far leads to believe that he doesn't. He looks and sounds like a football guy and that is something this team has lacked in a long time as head coach. Wanny, Saban, and Cam weren't that. They seemed more front office types and not FOOTBALL GUYS. Tony seems to be that way so players should take heed.

    This team has had a lot of ego's and players that didn't leave it on the field and from what I get from Tony they won't be playing. The penalty's have been horrid and aside from Zach and Jason this defense can't say they left it on the field like they have. The offense is young and changing so much that between that and injuries never had a chance. But the team should be in shape and play to the whistle on every play and be smart. Other coaches say it but for the last two years we've stunk. Holding, pass interferance, off sides and block in back continue far to regularly with this team.

    I guess we'll see come next year if Sparano is all talk but he appears to be the right choice and an excited to see the players that are cut and who are brought in. Tired of being excited about the new coaches and hope this is it for awhile.
     
  7. ac_lanham

    ac_lanham Junior Member

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    What has he said or done so far but eat dinner with Huizenga and Ireland and give a press conference?
     

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