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Madden '10

Discussion in 'Gaming Forum' started by anlgp, Mar 9, 2009.

  1. unifiedtheory

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    Auto import draft classes will never happen because it would allow you to play a real simulation without having to buy NCAA. That said, EA could give us DLC for it. Charge say $10.00 and allow Madden players to download the draft class without having to shell out the $60.00 for what basically amounts to an expansion pack for some poeple.

    Makes too much sense, EA would never do it but if someone suggested it they could give us the "we could not do it this year but for Madden '11 we'll try and get it in there".

    I hate EA.
     
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  2. PeaTearGriffin

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    This used to be in madden. I forget what year though. I just remember making some crazy pass plays that couldn't be stopped. Didn't they add this to head coach? What they really need to do is combine head coach and madden.
     
  3. GISH

    GISH ~mUST wARN oTHERS~

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    yeah, i know for a fact it existed in 03. the custom routes are killer. you could have a WR stop at a certain spot for however long u wanted, and then have him run another route. if they add this back into madden, i will create a ridiculous arsenal for online play.

    speaking of online play. about 20 mins ago i played against the #16 ranked player on XBL. we played unranked. i toyed with him badly. opening kickoff i stood on the goalline and waited for him to smash into me. the first tackle almost always fails on kick returns. he whiffs and i take it out to the 28 and almost had room to take it all the way. then i pick his *** apart underneath until he switches to cover2. then i strike with a long TD to Fitz. on his first possesion he tries an offsides glitch that moves the QB on top of the center and confuses the defense after the snap. luckily for me, ive seen this before and blow him up 3 times in a row by putting karlos dansby directly on top of jamarcus russel in a QB spy. he goes for it on 4th down and fails. he then quits, victory for me. bag him and tag him. i checked his career. hes a bum. it looks like hes using a dummy account to bump his ratings. its because of dildo glitchers like him that rank doesnt matter. i wish EA would find a way to make an exploit free game.
     
  4. Stitches

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    Or you could just rent the game for like $6 and sim a few years and get all the draft classes you want.

    If they did auto-importing, people would just then complain that the imported players don't have their real names. :no:

    Not to mention auto-importing might not even be worth doing past year 3, because not every player on a NCAA team is in the NCAA game (only like 70 per team in the game). It'd be a pretty watered down draft from year 3 and in year 4. Then after year 4 it would just be the same as it is now.
     
  5. Stitches

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    They did that with madden '09. You could import playbooks from NFL head coach to Madden.
     
  6. GISH

    GISH ~mUST wARN oTHERS~

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    but cant use them online. how useful is that?
     
  7. mor911

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    Im not even asking for that... I'm just asking that they fix the problems. Think Gears, Halo, or any viable online game ships exploit free?? Hell no. But to keep competition fair, other companies put in a lot of work and effort to patch and fix exploits that lamers find. EA wont do that... EA's stance is, "We'll kinda fix it next year, so buy it again".... And people keep doing it.
     
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  8. muscle979

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    That's part of it, the fact that Miami is terrible in that game doesn't help. It just feels like the same thing I've been playing since I was a teenager. I was happy they took the stupid vision thing out of passing. They need an awesome career mode like Road to the Show for baseball. That really got me into sports games again. If EA could make something fun like that for Madden it would really make me want to buy the game again.
     
  9. Phins28

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  10. Stitches

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    How much is it like a true sim if you make plays the team doesn't have in its playbook?

    I don't play online because of all the glitchers and disconnects, so really it is useful to me.
     
  11. peastri

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    At least they're announcing the glitches ahead of time this year :chuckle:
     
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  12. GISH

    GISH ~mUST wARN oTHERS~

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    just play unranked.

    im more concerned with the gameplay being true sim. not the playcalling. i want the superhuman coverage abilities to go away. if someone comes at me with an insane offense, i look forward to taking the challenge of stopping them. i just dont like when flaws in the game are the reason im getting beat. EA's mantra has always been, if its in the game, then it in the game. Meaning that they strive to emulate realness. Its time that they start living up to that.

    IMO, Madden players will never be satisfied. The more they fix, the higher the bar becomes. I'll probably always buy Madden every year, as long as I own the primary console its intended for. Its the best game ever created.
     
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  13. GISH

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    haha. i wish they would also add a sportsticker into the actual game, instead of just in the main user interface.
     
  14. resnor

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    I don't understand all the hate for Madden 09...especially on the ps3. I play it on the ps3, and think it's the best Madden in awhile. I used to love Madden 07 on the ps2, I think it was. I've played Madden for years, but, I do like the ps3 09 version.

    Also, the QB vision cone was the best thing that they EVER put in the game...and I was pissed when they took it away. Without the vision cone, it takes away the element of being able to see where the QB's "eyes" are looking, like real DB's do. Also, it allows people to just sprint around with craptastic QB's, like Russell and Young, and throw laserbeams all over the field. It's ridiculous.
     
  15. muscle979

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    I might have said that 10 or 15 years ago but no more. MLB the show is a better sports sim then Madden will probably ever hope to be.
     
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  16. GISH

    GISH ~mUST wARN oTHERS~

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    while the cone was geat for the defense. it was just too effing lame for the offense. in real life, if a qb moves to his second read, ITS INSTANT. he doesnt have to move a cone first. if you see somone open, you have to use right stick to 'look' at him, and then press the button. by then hes probably not open anymore. if they can get a neck adapter that knows where im looking, then fine, thats awesome. but until then, the cone needs to go.
     
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  17. Alex44

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    Eh it took all of a split second to move the cone to where you wanted it. Plus thats the point. Manning had a cone the entire size of the field, but if you're a rookie QB you can only see a small small portion of the field at a time.

    Nothing unrealistic about that to me.
     
  18. Clark Kent

    Clark Kent Fighter of the Nightman

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    Couldn't disagree more with you... Passing cone was incredible and it's a real shame they took it out of the game. Great thing was, you couldn't just run around and then throw to random WR (like how I pwn you :up:). You set, look, throw. It creates balance. Throw to a guy you're not looking at, you're ****ed. Stare down one guy long enough, user pick city. Or, you could bait the defense into bad coverages.
     
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  19. GISH

    GISH ~mUST wARN oTHERS~

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    agree to disagree. granted that good NFL defenders can watch the Qbs eyes and read what hes doing. but its too unfair to broadcast that information for any pathetic defender to exploit. if you want to get rid of those ridiculous passes to guys all the way across the field, then they should factor in a better simulation of accuracy when throwing across your body at such a distance. eff the cone.


    on a side note. i just whooped some dude so bad that he quits at halftime with the score 2-0. i never ran a single offensive play. i got the opening kickoff and punted. i then wen ton to punt 7 total times. the closest this guy got to scoring was the 30 yard line with one play left before halftime. i sack him for a 20 yard loss and he quit. i may start doing this more often. from now on im not even going to try to score until im down 7-0. i'll punt 30 times as long as its 0-0. it gets kinda funny after like the 3rd or 4th one. i think its pretty intimidating to play against someone who knows they can win without any offense at all. this guy had 93 yards of offense from 7 drives. i had 0, and was winning because of a safety. oh, and i also figured out that when you punt against a regular defense, you can put it inside the 20 from 80 yards back. oh, and a found a glitch in the penalty system. lets say you got someone closing in on you while ur trying to catch the punt. if you run out of the way and then run back to where the ball is landing, it will be a halo rule penalty if the defender is near you.
     
  20. GISH

    GISH ~mUST wARN oTHERS~

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    another thing about the cone. they would have to get rid of playmaker if they brought it back. screw that, i love playmaker way more than the cone.
     
  21. Clark Kent

    Clark Kent Fighter of the Nightman

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    Why would they need to get rid of playmaker? The L stick doesn't control cone... Actually, imagine being able to look at a WR (anyone you want) and then playmaker that WR only. You+Cone playmaker+Fitz = hell.
     
  22. muscle979

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    The cone was terrible. I hated it.
     
  23. anlgp

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    I never used the cone.
     
  24. GISH

    GISH ~mUST wARN oTHERS~

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    LS - move
    RS - playmaker
    RT - run
    LT - precision

    how would you control the cone? with another controller?


    EDIT: maybe if they switched the dpad to playmaker. but then we're talking about some serious skill needed to master all the controls at once. it would probably be easier to play a trumpet and the piano at the same time.
     
  25. muscle979

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    On PS2 you had to use the right analog stick for the vision cone. It was extremely awkward unless you could somehow synchronize your right thumb with the movement of your eyes. I turned it off b/c I was tired of having to play with Peyton Manning to not feel the effects of the cone.
     
  26. GISH

    GISH ~mUST wARN oTHERS~

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    exactly. its a handicap, and i hate it. Playmaker is perfect for the right stick. When operating the controller, your left thumb is for steering, and your right thumb is for pressing. moving back and forth between the receiver buttons and the right stick needs to be a very quick process. i like being able to just hit the stick in a direction, instead of using it to steer something.

    really though, the passing cone gives every safety in the nfl the skills of ed reed. theres not many players that can make the cross field movement that reed can. polamalu and sanders come to mind; but its a small group. with the cone, you'll have renaldo hill running all the way across the field to jump a outside slant. without the cone, doing that is a much greater risk. as it should be.
     
  27. Dol-Fan Dupree

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    I liked the passiing cone. It actually added some skill to the passing game
     
  28. Alex44

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    I must have done that, because it wasn't difficult at all for me and made the game more fun and realistic.
     
  29. aboome

    aboome Resident Madden God Club Member

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    i think me and you need to play gish hit me up next time ur on
     
  30. GISH

    GISH ~mUST wARN oTHERS~

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    i fall to the beatdown champ once again. 31-21. the aboome D is about as formidable as they come. at least for my offense it is.
     
  31. resnor

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    People on here obviously didn't know how to use the cone. You didn't have to use the right stick to move the cone. You could hold down R2, I believe it was, and then press the bbutton of the reciever you wanted. It was nearly instant. Not having a cone is weak. I am so sick of people sprinting around with Romo and then being able to just fling it deep ...it's even worse with guys like Russell or Young, who seem to have pinpoint accuracy. The cone helped with that.
     
  32. GISH

    GISH ~mUST wARN oTHERS~

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    im not sure what ur talking about. russel and young have extremely horrible accuracy. i dont remember the cone automatically switching. before the play, yes. during the play, are you sure?
     
  33. resnor

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    Dude, Russell and Young throw a great ball. Regardless, I'm talking about ANY QB. I was playing a guy last night who used GB, and his play was to sprint around with Rodgers, and then fling it downfield. It's far too easy to do that since they took out the cone.

    During the play, if you held R2 and pressed a reciever icon, the cone would switch to that receiver. It was much better than moving the cone with the right stick.
     
  34. muscle979

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    That can be solved by the game decreasing QBs' accuracy while on the run. You don't need the cone to take that away. Should we also have to control the QBs arm motion while he throws? Might as well since we're controlling his eyes with the cone. Why stop there? You already have to find the open man and then contend with super defenders who can knock down anything. The cone is completely unnecessary. I don't care to get used to it or use it properly or anything like that.
     
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  35. muscle979

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    I remember being able to set it to follow a receiver before the play started. I think you could do it in play but I remember being frustrated trying to remember to press the right buttons. Half the time I ended up taking a sack.
     
  36. McLovin

    McLovin Resident Pats fan.

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    ok ok ok.. i have a solution for the cone. make it a downloadable option that you can add in. that way the people that like it can add it on, the people that dont, never have to look at it again.

    done deal.



    :bag:
     
  37. resnor

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    The cone separated the good from the bad. Anyone can sprint around and fling the ball. Using the R2 button and pressing the receiver you wanted the cone on was incredibly easy. The cone was the best feature they ever added to Madden.
     
  38. resnor

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    I liked that the cone was standard in ranked games. It made it so the Vick lovers couldn't sprint straight back and then flick it to a receiver way downfield.
     
  39. muscle979

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    Once again, the game developers could easily decrease QB accuracy on the run to account for this problem rather than adding a stupid cone. Everybody hated the cone as evidenced by the fact that it quickly disappeared. If it was as great and as user friendly as you claim that wouldn't have happened.
     
  40. resnor

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    People didn't like the cone because it did what it was intended to do...stop people from sprinting around and then firing it downfield. The cone made the passing game require skill. Someone who was good with the cone was, IMO, better than someone who was only good without it.
     

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