With the pick of Pat White, we've shown a comittment to the Wildcat Offense, but White needs a backup wildcat quarterback, someone else who could step right in and do the things Pat White can do for us. Which brings up..Mike Vick, to me he would make a great Back up Qb for the Wildcat. But what say you?
Not a snowball's chance in hell. He has the ability, but I don't like what he's done. Granted, people change, and should be forgiven if they truly repent, but still... The Dolphins are an extension of me, and I don't want Vick to be a part of that.
I think Ireland, Tuna and Sparano would be asleep at the switch if they did not seriously consider signing Vick.
I think Ronnie has proven himself to be a fine backup "QB" in the Wildcat offense. And he doesn't fancy killing dogs.
We took Pat White partially because Ronnie Brown is a terrible passer, Vick is not Steve Young jr. but he can throw the ball on the move and he can also run the thing as well as a halfback.
Why would Vick want to come here and be a backup to a role player? We don't need Vick. Taking on that kind of distraction to have a backup wildcat Qb is ridiculous.
Because White is not simply a back up, if the LeeCat works the way they are hoping, it will be a large part of our offense, if White tweaks a hammy, no more LeeCat. We cannot invest heavily in the concept then not also invest in the players to operate it.
You think we should start rostering backup Wildcat quarterbacks? I'm not saying that's a bad idea, because it really isn't. I just don't think Vick is the answer. Vick will be 29 shortly, hasn't played since 2007 and is currently suspended by the NFL, with no timetable for reinstatement. Can he really do the things White can do for us anymore? And can he contribute in other ways (WR, special teams, etc.)? I'm skeptical. I don't think the Dolphins need the baggage and PR fallout anyway.
Yes, or develop a player who we will keep in the long term to operate it, if we pick up a guy for the job, then practice squad him, someone is 100% certain to snatch him up just to learn what "we" plan on doing with the offense. I'm hoping Hartline is that back up WC Qb. He is the best running Qb in NFL history...bar none. As a precaution, because White more then likely wouldn't be injured early in the year, we can wait for Vick to be reinstated. Eh, we are already on the PETA hitlist, and they cheesed me off anyway after forcing Wayne H to give up the TD Dolphin mascot.
Can we go ahead and ban Padre for even mentioning this. Funny article out about Vick right now. Apearently, arena league owners don't even want the scumbab POS
That may be but the Wildcat is still going to be, percentage of playwise, a small part of our offense. If Pat White were to go down and we still felt like we needed to Wild Cat, Ronnie could handle it just fine. No reason to bring in a distraction like Vick.
See, that's what I mean. A guy that already does something else. That's who the backup should be. I think it's a waste of a roster spot to roster a guy just to be the backup Wildcat QB, because White himself probably isn't going to just be the Wildcat QB. At this stage, I'm not convinced that Vick can or would want to do anything else. Nor am I convinced that he's the same athlete he used to be. You might be waiting until 2010. He won't finish his sentence until late July, and there's no timetable for him to be reinstated. I just want no part of Vick right now. Let New England sign him. I don't care. It's not like we don't practice against it every day. What? He's still there. And his suit is still hot. http://miamidolphins.com/newsite/youthfootball/td/tdprofile.asp That's nowhere near what the attention Vick gets.
This is a terrible idea and I hope it never happens. That guy doesn't deserve to be allowed back into the NFL so no way I want him near my team.
Theoretically you're right, padre. He would. He'll very likely be in a position where he'll have to go somewhere and (re)prove himself; ie: start out as a back up. I would think that a team would be much more comfortable doing that than just simply handing him the keys to the car. Kind of like bringing RW back, but not as the feature back. But, IMO before Goodell will reinstate and before a team would sign him, he's going to need to overhaul his image.
1. Because vick wants to be a starter not a second string QB. 2. He would want more money and who can blame him the guy is one of the top QB's On what he did i feel its very wrong, He payed his price and believe he learned his lesson.
Dang Andrew.. you put the bullseye on this time. No, I want nothing to do with vick, but having said that you do have a very good point hidden in there. Someone.. I'm thinking Keith, but it might have been Mike, made the comment during the draft to not be surprised if we pick another kid with the desired skillsets.. (and NE got him.) The gist was "we" should stockpile the skillset. When I read that, it was right after George posted the Casserly comment about Parcells telling him last fall he was going to do what we did, address the wildcat with a pick. That had me thinking.. I concluded that there was no smokescreen involving Percy.. we really did want him, and when he went, the next choice was White which we executed. I would seriously like to know if they would have pulled "both" triggers if the opportunity availed. Now, you have to sorta ask yourself (at least "I" do) that "if" we had missed on both those guys, would mike vick have been an option? IMO, our picking Pat White made mike vicks skillsets relevant again.. he is suddenly worth more money and a harder look by every team looking to install the wc. And I think it would be foolish to overlook such a serious asset investment by someone of Bill's reputation. If Bills team can go from 1-15 to 11-5 on the back of a new/old formation, what magic could it work for others? When the defense coordinators start coming back to their head coaches and reporting they cannot stop a properly executed wildcat with someone possessing the skillsets of Pat White they too will be looking to install it. Getting ahead of the curve and stockpiling guys with the necessary skillsets would have some benefits.. their value would rise, and it would keep the other teams from adequately running the formation in games, AND in practice.. stunting the defenses ability to defend it full speed. Sooo, who is out there that has those skillsets? Jamarcus Russell? Vince Young in Tennessee.. could this formation save his career. Will we see these teams invest the time to make it work? I have no doubt the patsies will.. bb spent to much time with the urbane crier recently to not come away with a new formation to get even with us.. and you KNOW he wants to get us back. But no Vick here Andrew, we don't need the distractions that would follow him like it or not.
Why would the Wildcat need a back up QB? Instead of 5 snaps a game it might get 9-10 snaps a game not enough to warrant. Now Pat White needed to come out Ronnie Brown would obviously take his spot.
There is absolutely no need to sign him. It'll never happen. As for Vick... I dont understand why its such a big deal if he comes back to the nfl at some point in time. Sure, he did some horrible things. However... why is it OK for Leonard Little, who killed A PERSON while driving drunk to be playing in the league today? Oh, and not only did he kill someone while driving drunk he also got arrested and charged again of drunk driving 6 years later!!!! Stallworth is now in the same situation and would probably be welcomed back... he killed someone too. But look out... Vick fought dogs (and yes, its disgusting and pathetic) but its not okay for him to ever play again? Its flawed logic people... I, being a dog person in no way condone what Vick did... but, I mean... come on. Theres far worse offenders out there still playing in the league... back on topic though... no vick in Miami. There's just no need to have a backup wildcat QB taking up a roster spot.
there's no need for a back up Wild Cat QB! when compared to all the other plays we run, the wild cat might be used 10 times at best. If we do need one, Ronnie Brown will play that role. Just say no to Vick!
Um, heres a guess at the backup......ronnie brown maybe?? Seriously, not even worth the roster spot at all. Id look at him if we hadnt gotten white but we did so its not worth it. We have enough people who could run it if Pat White cant.
Indifference as to whether he's a good enough guy as the "backup" WC guy, but what a PR nightmare for any team that signs him...besides, why take up another roster spot ??? Who goes that Vick would replace...another thing, like White, he can't really do anything else other than QB....he's not a STer, he's not WR or RB ??? Why add another guy that really has only one role...do we cut one of the Chads to make room ??
No, simply because this organization has class, plain and simple. Since I don't have any class, have a look at this clip of Vick from Family Guy. Just goes to show, he'll never live this down and it will haunt him til his dying day. http://www.sportingnews.com/blog/fi..._on_family_guy,_but_probably_not_how_hed_like
don't think Vick is on the Dolphin to do list, but anything is possible depending on the success of the WildCat & Vick's unfortunate incarceration. Certainly, the Vick we've watched develop & play in the NFL would be a natural for the system. Having said that: really don't think it is in the cards for too many reasons to list. WildCatPat is the Man!
Sorry, I was on my phone when I posted this earlier. This might be the single funniest thing happening now. I am SERIOUS, an Arena League owner is outraged that his own team paper posted an JOKE Article stating that his team was offering a 200.00 a game spot for Vick.... http://sports.yahoo.com/top/news?slug=ap-arenateam-vickoffer&prov=ap&type=lgns
I would have thought about it before drafting Pat White. But now that we have White that seems like overkill on the QB department.
If the Dolphins carry 4 QBs what is the position or player they eliminate to carry the 4th QB? I would rather not have Michael Vick in a Dolphin's uniform even if he has paid his debt to society
You want us to pay Michael Vick to be a back up to our 3rd string QB? Not a financially sound proposition.
I hope Ron Mexico never plays for this team. The ONLY time in 30+ years that my loyalty to this team felt strained was during the Marcus Vick experiment. He worked out well, didn't he?
Vick? No thanks. We had one of these before, didn´t work out. How about "Slash" K. Stewart as the backup backup QB for the Wildcat? Just read that he never officially retired and he could punt too,so he wouldn´t consume a roster spot and he is only 36...
