First of all, I wasn't even involved in Survivor 08... secondly, we don't hate Ginn! We just want someone else to win, someone more deserving! We should just say you LOVE Teddy and HATE every other player on the team, using your logic! What would you do if Ginn was traded? ??
almost as bad as saying Ted cant catch. almost as bad as knocking Ginn for not having a 1000 yard season after being picked in the top 10, and then voting for Ronnie Brown who barely did that once and gets injured every year. almost as bad as negging Ginn every single time because "he doesnt deserve to win", despite there being 20 other players on the list that deserve to win even less.
did you just misinterpret me? Pennington is very accurate in the 1-20 yard range where most of his throws are made. Ginn runs out of that range very quickly.
im not constantly posting negative info about Ronnie, Chad, and Jake. but you guys keeping spamming this thread with posts ripping ginn apart. All of your argruments against Ginn are pure BS that can be said about anyone.
I never said Ginn can't catch. I never knocked him for not having 1000 yards. In fact, I have praised him for his improvement. Who deserves to win is all relative. Some of us don't think Ginn deserves the title this year. You do. If we all agreed this game wouldn't be any fun.
since there are I believe 24 players on the list... if you are content with Ginn finishing fourth in this thing, would you agree to make sure that happened?
i wasnt saying u did all those things. but the anti-ginn coalition has been doing that crap non stop.
I did, and for that I apologize to Ted Ginn, and his family... his immediate family, not these mafia thingys...
Anyone who says anything bad about Chad Pennington does not represent the views of the Ted Ginn Mafia. Negative comments will only be made about other players if someone accuses Ginn of something that their player is also guilty of. I.E. Ginn not producing (see Ronnie). this list would be down to 5 players by now if you all stopped negging ginn and helped get rid of the lesser deserving players first.
well maybe if you didn't make a coalition to give votes to Ginn all the time, we wouldn't have taken these measures.
Gentlemen, Can't we reach some sort of agreement? Both of our sides love Ginn Correct? Both of Our Sides Love Ronnie Correct? Lets put aside our differences between the two and focus on the weak among the list. What do you say? ?
I have voted for ronnie, Peezy, Ginn, and I believe... Sparano maybe. But more importantly, We don't single out Ronnie with negatives. He deserves to last far longer than others on the list
I don't believe that the UnTEDables are 100% for Ronnie... we just want someone else to win besides Teddy, each of us is free to choose who that player should be... until you guys stop voting for Ginn, I cannot give an assurance that we will not vote against him.
Chad Henne [18] Chad Pennington [57] Davone Bess [16] Ted Ginn [27] - not even top 20 on the team Ronnie Brown [75] Vontae Davis [17] Will Allen [11] Gibril Wilson [9] Ricky Williams [13] Lousaka Polite [7] Yeremiah Bell [16] Patrick Cobbs [8] Channing Crowder [4] Joey Porter [22] Justin Smiley [6] Kendall Langford [11] Vernon Carey [13] Jake Long [52] Anthony Fasano [10] Greg Camarillo [8] Jason Ferguson [9]+++++ Phillip Merling [11] Matt Roth [12] Tony Sparano [13]
Chad Henne [18] Chad Pennington [57] Davone Bess [16] Ted Ginn [28] + Ronnie Brown [74] - Vontae Davis [17] Will Allen [11] Gibril Wilson [9] Ricky Williams [13] Lousaka Polite [7] Yeremiah Bell [16] Patrick Cobbs [8] Channing Crowder [4] Joey Porter [22] Justin Smiley [6] Kendall Langford [11] Vernon Carey [13] Jake Long [52] Anthony Fasano [10] Greg Camarillo [8] Jason Ferguson [9] Phillip Merling [11] Matt Roth [12] Tony Sparano [13]
Chad Henne [18] Chad Pennington [56]- Davone Bess [16] Ted Ginn [28] Ronnie Brown [74] Vontae Davis [17] Will Allen [11] Gibril Wilson [9] Ricky Williams [13] Lousaka Polite [7] Yeremiah Bell [16] Patrick Cobbs [8] Channing Crowder [4] Joey Porter [22] Justin Smiley [6] Kendall Langford [11] Vernon Carey [13] Jake Long [53]+ Anthony Fasano [10] Greg Camarillo [8] Jason Ferguson [9] Phillip Merling [11] Matt Roth [12] Tony Sparano [13]
Chad Henne [18] Chad Pennington [57] Davone Bess [16] Ted Ginn [29] + Ronnie Brown [73] - Pat White will make us forget about Ronnie Brown Vontae Davis [17] Will Allen [11] Gibril Wilson [9] Ricky Williams [13] Lousaka Polite [7] Yeremiah Bell [16] Patrick Cobbs [8] Channing Crowder [4] Joey Porter [22] Justin Smiley [6] Kendall Langford [11] Vernon Carey [13] Jake Long [52] Anthony Fasano [10] Greg Camarillo [8] Jason Ferguson [9] Phillip Merling [11] Matt Roth [12] Tony Sparano [13]
no, but ronnie brown will only be human after Pat White steals his glory in the wildcat. ronnie brown will be reduced to a RB sharing time with ricky.
Chad Henne [18] Chad Pennington [57] Davone Bess [16] Ted Ginn [28] -- Ronnie Brown [73] Vontae Davis [17] Will Allen [11] Gibril Wilson [9] Ricky Williams [13] Lousaka Polite [7] Yeremiah Bell [16] Patrick Cobbs [8] Channing Crowder [4] Joey Porter [22] Justin Smiley [6] Kendall Langford [11] Vernon Carey [13] Jake Long [53] +++ Anthony Fasano [10] Greg Camarillo [8] Jason Ferguson [9] Phillip Merling [11] Matt Roth [12] Tony Sparano [13]
After the Wildcat proves to do nothing but stop drives as it did later in the year last year, we'll come to our senses and rely on our OLine and a top RB to pound out wins. Pat White will be an afterthought. By the way your numbers are wrong in your vote.
Chad Henne [18] Chad Pennington [57] Davone Bess [16] Ted Ginn [29] +++ Ronnie Brown [73] Vontae Davis [16] ------ Will Allen [11] Gibril Wilson [9] Ricky Williams [13] Lousaka Polite [7] Yeremiah Bell [16] Patrick Cobbs [8] Channing Crowder [4] Joey Porter [22] Justin Smiley [6] Kendall Langford [11] Vernon Carey [13] Jake Long [53] Anthony Fasano [10] Greg Camarillo [8] Jason Ferguson [9] Phillip Merling [11] Matt Roth [12] Tony Sparano [13]
Chad Henne [18] Chad Pennington [57] Davone Bess [16] Ted Ginn [29] Ronnie Brown [73] Vontae Davis [16] Will Allen [11] Gibril Wilson [8] -- hard group to vote against now, but free agent that hasn't shown us anything yet Ricky Williams [13] Lousaka Polite [7] Yeremiah Bell [16] Patrick Cobbs [8] Channing Crowder [4] Joey Porter [22] Justin Smiley [6] Kendall Langford [11] Vernon Carey [13] Jake Long [53] Anthony Fasano [10] Greg Camarillo [8] Jason Ferguson [9] Phillip Merling [11] Matt Roth [12] Tony Sparano [14] ++ Time this man gets some credit, he brought this motley group together and taught them to win!
Chad Henne [18] Chad Pennington [58]+ Davone Bess [16] Ted Ginn [28]- Ronnie Brown [73] Vontae Davis [16] Will Allen [11] Gibril Wilson [8] Ricky Williams [13] Lousaka Polite [7] Yeremiah Bell [16] Patrick Cobbs [8] Channing Crowder [4] Joey Porter [22] Justin Smiley [6] Kendall Langford [11] Vernon Carey [13] Jake Long [53] Anthony Fasano [10] Greg Camarillo [8] Jason Ferguson [9] Phillip Merling [11] Matt Roth [12] Tony Sparano [14]
Chad Henne [18] Chad Pennington [58] Davone Bess [16] Ted Ginn [27]- Ronnie Brown [74]+ Vontae Davis [16] Will Allen [11] Gibril Wilson [8] Ricky Williams [13] Lousaka Polite [7] Yeremiah Bell [16] Patrick Cobbs [8] Channing Crowder [4] Joey Porter [22] Justin Smiley [6] Kendall Langford [11] Vernon Carey [13] Jake Long [53] Anthony Fasano [10] Greg Camarillo [8] Jason Ferguson [9] Phillip Merling [11] Matt Roth [12] Tony Sparano [14]
Chad Henne [18] Chad Pennington [59] + Davone Bess [16] Ted Ginn [26] - Ronnie Brown [74] Vontae Davis [16] Will Allen [11] Gibril Wilson [8] Ricky Williams [13] Lousaka Polite [7] Yeremiah Bell [16] Patrick Cobbs [8] Channing Crowder [4] Joey Porter [22] Justin Smiley [6] Kendall Langford [11] Vernon Carey [13] Jake Long [53] Anthony Fasano [10] Greg Camarillo [8] Jason Ferguson [9] Phillip Merling [11] Matt Roth [12] Tony Sparano [14]
Chad Henne [18] Chad Pennington [59] Davone Bess [16] Ted Ginn [25] Ronnie Brown [74] Vontae Davis [16] Will Allen [11] Gibril Wilson [7] -- hasnt shown us anything yet Ricky Williams [13] Lousaka Polite [7] Yeremiah Bell [16] Patrick Cobbs [8] Channing Crowder [4] Joey Porter [22] Justin Smiley [6] Kendall Langford [11] Vernon Carey [13] Jake Long [53] Anthony Fasano [10] Greg Camarillo [8] Jason Ferguson [9] Phillip Merling [11] Matt Roth [12] Tony Sparano [15] ++ The coach deserves credit he's held accountable and he delivered
Chad Henne [18] Chad Pennington [59] Davone Bess [16] Ted Ginn [24] - Ronnie Brown [75] + Vontae Davis [16] Will Allen [11] Gibril Wilson [7] Ricky Williams [13] Lousaka Polite [7] Yeremiah Bell [16] Patrick Cobbs [8] Channing Crowder [4] Joey Porter [22] Justin Smiley [6] Kendall Langford [11] Vernon Carey [13] Jake Long [53] Anthony Fasano [10] Greg Camarillo [8] Jason Ferguson [9] Phillip Merling [11] Matt Roth [12] Tony Sparano [15]
Chad Henne [18] Chad Pennington [59] Davone Bess [16] Ted Ginn [25] + Ronnie Brown [75] Vontae Davis [16] Will Allen [11] Gibril Wilson [6]- Ricky Williams [13] Lousaka Polite [7] Yeremiah Bell [16] Patrick Cobbs [8] Channing Crowder [4] Joey Porter [22] Justin Smiley [6] Kendall Langford [11] Vernon Carey [13] Jake Long [53] Anthony Fasano [10] Greg Camarillo [8] Jason Ferguson [9] Phillip Merling [11] Matt Roth [12] Tony Sparano [15]
Ginn lost a point a few votes up (#1034), but that wasn't the vote. Subtracting, but not incrementing. Count should be good. Chad Henne [18] Chad Pennington [60] + Davone Bess [16] Ted Ginn [25] - Ronnie Brown [75] Vontae Davis [16] Will Allen [11] Gibril Wilson [6] Ricky Williams [13] Lousaka Polite [7] Yeremiah Bell [16] Patrick Cobbs [8] Channing Crowder [4] Joey Porter [22] Justin Smiley [6] Kendall Langford [11] Vernon Carey [13] Jake Long [53] Anthony Fasano [10] Greg Camarillo [8] Jason Ferguson [9] Phillip Merling [11] Matt Roth [12] Tony Sparano [15]
Chad Henne [18] Chad Pennington [61] + Davone Bess [16] Ted Ginn [25] Ronnie Brown [75] Vontae Davis [16] Will Allen [11] Gibril Wilson [6] Ricky Williams [13] Lousaka Polite [7] Yeremiah Bell [16] Patrick Cobbs [8] Channing Crowder [3] - Joey Porter [22] Justin Smiley [6] Kendall Langford [11] Vernon Carey [13] Jake Long [53] Anthony Fasano [10] Greg Camarillo [8] Jason Ferguson [9] Phillip Merling [11] Matt Roth [12] Tony Sparano [15]
Chad Henne [18] Chad Pennington [61] Davone Bess [16] Ted Ginn [25] Ronnie Brown [75] Vontae Davis [16] Will Allen [11] Gibril Wilson [6] Ricky Williams [13] Lousaka Polite [7] Yeremiah Bell [16] Patrick Cobbs [9] + Channing Crowder [3] Joey Porter [22] Justin Smiley [6] Kendall Langford [11] Vernon Carey [13] Jake Long [53] Anthony Fasano [10] Greg Camarillo [8] Jason Ferguson [9] Phillip Merling [11] Matt Roth [12] Tony Sparano [14] -
Chad Henne [18] Chad Pennington [60] -------- Davone Bess [16] Ted Ginn [26] ++++++++ Ronnie Brown [75] Vontae Davis [16] Will Allen [11] Gibril Wilson [6] Ricky Williams [13] Lousaka Polite [7] Yeremiah Bell [16] Patrick Cobbs [9] Channing Crowder [3] Joey Porter [22] Justin Smiley [6] Kendall Langford [11] Vernon Carey [13] Jake Long [53] Anthony Fasano [10] Greg Camarillo [8] Jason Ferguson [9] Phillip Merling [11] Matt Roth [12] Tony Sparano [14]