Chad Henne [18] Chad Pennington [55] Davone Bess [16] Ted Ginn [24]+ Ronnie Brown [75] Vontae Davis [16] Will Allen [12] Ricky Williams [13] Lousaka Polite [0]------- Gone Yeremiah Bell [17] Patrick Cobbs [10] Joey Porter [25] Justin Smiley [6] Kendall Langford [12] Vernon Carey [13] Jake Long [58] Anthony Fasano [10] Greg Camarillo [8] Jason Ferguson [9] Phillip Merling [11] Matt Roth [12] Tony Sparano [19] Jason Taylor [11]
saying he cant catch isnt love saying hes afraid of contact isnt love implying hes a bust because he hasnt had a 1000 yard season isnt love negging him, AND ONLY HIM, isnt love you guys dont deserve to see your team win. i wish i liked another team right now.
That can be arranged... I hear the Raiders are taking applications... all you need to qualify is a prior arrest.. you'll fit in nicely in the black hole.
Chad Henne [18] Chad Pennington [55] Davone Bess [16] Ted Ginn [25]+ Ronnie Brown [74] - Vontae Davis [16] Will Allen [12] Ricky Williams [13] Yeremiah Bell [17] Patrick Cobbs [10] Joey Porter [25] Justin Smiley [6] Kendall Langford [12] Vernon Carey [13] Jake Long [58] Anthony Fasano [10] Greg Camarillo [8] Jason Ferguson [9] Phillip Merling [11] Matt Roth [12] Tony Sparano [19] Jason Taylor [11]
Chad Henne [18] Chad Pennington [55]+++++ Davone Bess [16] Ted Ginn [24]+ Ronnie Brown [75] Vontae Davis [16] Will Allen [12] Ricky Williams [13] Yeremiah Bell [17] Patrick Cobbs [10] Joey Porter [25] Justin Smiley [6]----------------- Kendall Langford [12] Vernon Carey [13] Jake Long [58] Anthony Fasano [10] Greg Camarillo [8] Jason Ferguson [9] Phillip Merling [11] Matt Roth [12] Tony Sparano [19] Jason Taylor [11]
Chad Henne [18] Chad Pennington [55] Davone Bess [16] Ted Ginn [24] Ronnie Brown [75] Vontae Davis [16] Will Allen [12] Ricky Williams [13] Yeremiah Bell [17] Patrick Cobbs [9]- Joey Porter [26]+ Justin Smiley [6] Kendall Langford [12] Vernon Carey [13] Jake Long [58] Anthony Fasano [10] Greg Camarillo [8] Jason Ferguson [9] Phillip Merling [11] Matt Roth [12] Tony Sparano [19] Jason Taylor [11]
Corrected/updated to reflect prior votes (post #1127 vote totals were not changed/updated for his own vote), and also didn't reflect post #1126 votes). This is right: Chad Henne [18] Chad Pennington [56] Davone Bess [16] Ted Ginn [25] Ronnie Brown [74] Vontae Davis [16] Will Allen [12] Ricky Williams [13] Yeremiah Bell [17] Patrick Cobbs [9] Joey Porter [26] Justin Smiley [5] Kendall Langford [12] Vernon Carey [13] Jake Long [58] Anthony Fasano [10] Greg Camarillo [8] Jason Ferguson [9] Phillip Merling [11] Matt Roth [12] Tony Sparano [19] Jason Taylor [11]
Damn, you're fast. I was still trying to figure out what dolfan94's intention was. I think you captured it. Looked like he was +ing Pennington and -ing Smiley. Dolfan94, don't forget to add and subtract from the count of the players you're voting for and against. Not that I have any business complaining after my antics earlier...
Chad Henne [18] Chad Pennington [56] Davone Bess [16] Ted Ginn [24] - because I do not believe kittens should be killed by firing squads like gish does Ronnie Brown [74] Vontae Davis [16] Will Allen [12] Ricky Williams [13] Yeremiah Bell [17] Patrick Cobbs [9] Joey Porter [26] Justin Smiley [5] Kendall Langford [12] Vernon Carey [13] Jake Long [58] Anthony Fasano [10] Greg Camarillo [8] Jason Ferguson [9] Phillip Merling [11] Matt Roth [12] Tony Sparano [19] Jason Taylor [12] + because I love puppies, america and big boobs
Chad Henne [18] Chad Pennington [56] Davone Bess [16] Ted Ginn [24] Ronnie Brown [75]++++ Vontae Davis [16] Will Allen [12] Ricky Williams [13] Yeremiah Bell [17] Patrick Cobbs [9] Joey Porter [26] Justin Smiley [4] ----- Kendall Langford [12] Vernon Carey [13] Jake Long [58] Anthony Fasano [10] Greg Camarillo [8] Jason Ferguson [9] Phillip Merling [11] Matt Roth [12] Tony Sparano [19] Jason Taylor [12]
Chad Henne [18] Chad Pennington [56] Davone Bess [16] Ted Ginn [23]--------like I said before he is not even top 20 on the team IMO, yet he might might might be our best receiver. For me its between him and Bess with CamCam 3rd Ronnie Brown [75 Vontae Davis [16] Will Allen [12] Ricky Williams [13] Yeremiah Bell [17] Patrick Cobbs [9] Joey Porter [26] Justin Smiley [4] Kendall Langford [12] Vernon Carey [13] Jake Long [58] Anthony Fasano [10] Greg Camarillo [8] Jason Ferguson [9] Phillip Merling [11] Matt Roth [12] Tony Sparano [19] Jason Taylor [13]+++++++only making 1.1
Come on now ... Why all the hate for Ronnie Brown? Why are you spreading lies about him? I DEMAND ANSWERS.
I hope Ginn busts out for 1500 this year...and then I can watch all the naysayers fall all over themselves, trying to put Ginn sigs on...will be great. Chad Henne [18] Chad Pennington [56] Davone Bess [15] - Running short routes doesn't get my vote!!! Ted Ginn [24] + Best receiver on the team...Cam and Bess can't hold his jock Ronnie Brown [75 Vontae Davis [16] Will Allen [12] Ricky Williams [13] Yeremiah Bell [17] Patrick Cobbs [9] Joey Porter [26] Justin Smiley [4] Kendall Langford [12] Vernon Carey [13] Jake Long [58] Anthony Fasano [10] Greg Camarillo [8] Jason Ferguson [9] Phillip Merling [11] Matt Roth [12] Tony Sparano [19] Jason Taylor [13]
Chad Henne [18] Chad Pennington [56] Davone Bess [16] Ted Ginn [23] Ronnie Brown [75] Vontae Davis [15]- The rooks will go down Will Allen [12] Ricky Williams [13] Yeremiah Bell [17] Patrick Cobbs [10]+ Joey Porter [26] Justin Smiley [4] Kendall Langford [12] Vernon Carey [13] Jake Long [58] Anthony Fasano [10] Greg Camarillo [8] Jason Ferguson [9] Phillip Merling [11] Matt Roth [12] Tony Sparano [19] Jason Taylor [13]
Chad Henne [18] Chad Pennington [56] Davone Bess [15] Ted Ginn [24] Ronnie Brown [74] --- Vontae Davis [15] Will Allen [12] Ricky Williams [13] Yeremiah Bell [18]+++ Patrick Cobbs [10] Joey Porter [26] Justin Smiley [4] Kendall Langford [12] Vernon Carey [13] Jake Long [58] Anthony Fasano [10] Greg Camarillo [8] Jason Ferguson [9] Phillip Merling [11] Matt Roth [12] Tony Sparano [19] Jason Taylor [13]
Chad Henne [18] Chad Pennington [56] Davone Bess [15] Ted Ginn [24] Ronnie Brown [74] Vontae Davis [15] Will Allen [12] Ricky Williams [13] Yeremiah Bell [18] Patrick Cobbs [11] + Joey Porter [26] Justin Smiley [4] Kendall Langford [12] Vernon Carey [13] Jake Long [58] Anthony Fasano [10] Greg Camarillo [8] Jason Ferguson [9] Phillip Merling [11] Matt Roth [12] Tony Sparano [18] - Jason Taylor [13]
Chad Henne [18] Chad Pennington [56] Davone Bess [15] Ted Ginn [23] ----------- Ronnie Brown [74] Vontae Davis [15] Will Allen [12] Ricky Williams [13] Yeremiah Bell [18] Patrick Cobbs [11] Joey Porter [26] Justin Smiley [4] Kendall Langford [12] Vernon Carey [13] Jake Long [58] Anthony Fasano [10] Greg Camarillo [8] Jason Ferguson [9] Phillip Merling [11] Matt Roth [12] Tony Sparano [18] Jason Taylor [14] +++++
Chad Henne [18] Chad Pennington [56] Davone Bess [15] Ted Ginn [22] ----------- Ronnie Brown [75] + Vontae Davis [15] Will Allen [12] Ricky Williams [13] Yeremiah Bell [18] Patrick Cobbs [11] Joey Porter [26] Justin Smiley [4] Kendall Langford [12] Vernon Carey [13] Jake Long [58] Anthony Fasano [10] Greg Camarillo [8] Jason Ferguson [9] Phillip Merling [11] Matt Roth [12] Tony Sparano [18] Jason Taylor [14]
What lies? Ive negged Ronnie less than 10 times. I have eliminated more than 10 players from this contest so far, and have negged nearly everyone. The mafia didnt win last year by simply negging the leader over and over just to be *****. We took people out one at a time until the final showdown. The anti-Ginn hate mongers are just doing this out of spite and bitterness.
And we have spread the love. We are here to uphold the peace, give everyone a fair shot. You are here to make sure Ted Ginn wins again...
Chad Henne [18] Chad Pennington [56] Davone Bess [15] Ted Ginn [22] Ronnie Brown [75] Vontae Davis [15] Will Allen [12] Ricky Williams [13] Yeremiah Bell [18] Patrick Cobbs [11] Joey Porter [26] Justin Smiley [3] ------ Time to weed out. Kendall Langford [12] Vernon Carey [13] Jake Long [58] Anthony Fasano [10] Greg Camarillo [8] Jason Ferguson [9] Phillip Merling [11] Matt Roth [12] Tony Sparano [19] +++++++ Underrated leader/motivator/coach Jason Taylor [14]
Chad Henne [18] Chad Pennington [56] Davone Bess [15] Ted Ginn [23] + Ronnie Brown [74] - Vontae Davis [15] Will Allen [12] Ricky Williams [13] Yeremiah Bell [18] Patrick Cobbs [11] Joey Porter [26] Justin Smiley [4] Kendall Langford [12] Vernon Carey [13] Jake Long [58] Anthony Fasano [10] Greg Camarillo [8] Jason Ferguson [9] Phillip Merling [11] Matt Roth [12] Tony Sparano [18] Jason Taylor [14]
Chad Henne [18] Chad Pennington [56] Davone Bess [15] Ted Ginn [22] - Nothing bad to say about Teddy. Ronnie Brown [75] + Watched the highlights Crunch posted. Beautiful. Vontae Davis [15] Will Allen [12] Ricky Williams [13] Yeremiah Bell [18] Patrick Cobbs [11] Joey Porter [26] Justin Smiley [3] Kendall Langford [12] Vernon Carey [13] Jake Long [58] Anthony Fasano [10] Greg Camarillo [8] Jason Ferguson [9] Phillip Merling [11] Matt Roth [12] Tony Sparano [19] Jason Taylor [14]
Chad Henne [18] Chad Pennington [56] Davone Bess [15] Ted Ginn [21] - I'm sorry, I'm not going to be bullied into not voting against a player that I feel has no business winning this contest. Ronnie Brown [75] Vontae Davis [15] Will Allen [12] Ricky Williams [13] Yeremiah Bell [18] Patrick Cobbs [11] Joey Porter [27] + MVP of the defense last year. More importantly, most of his sacks came on 3rd down. Justin Smiley [3] Kendall Langford [12] Vernon Carey [13] Jake Long [58] Anthony Fasano [10] Greg Camarillo [8] Jason Ferguson [9] Phillip Merling [11] Matt Roth [12] Tony Sparano [19] Jason Taylor [14]
Chad Henne [18] Chad Pennington [57] + Davone Bess [15] Ted Ginn [20] - Ronnie Brown [75] Vontae Davis [15] Will Allen [12] Ricky Williams [13] Yeremiah Bell [18] Patrick Cobbs [11] Joey Porter [27] Justin Smiley [4] Kendall Langford [12] Vernon Carey [13] Jake Long [58] Anthony Fasano [10] Greg Camarillo [8] Jason Ferguson [9] Phillip Merling [11] Matt Roth [12] Tony Sparano [18] Jason Taylor [14]
I think i messed up, if someone wants to check it for me.... Chad Henne [18] Chad Pennington [57] Davone Bess [15] Ted Ginn [20] Ronnie Brown [75] Vontae Davis [14]- Will Allen [12] Ricky Williams [13] Yeremiah Bell [18] Patrick Cobbs [11] Joey Porter [27] Justin Smiley [4] Kendall Langford [12] Vernon Carey [13] Jake Long [58] Anthony Fasano [11]+ Greg Camarillo [8] Jason Ferguson [9] Phillip Merling [11] Matt Roth [12] Tony Sparano [18] Jason Taylor [14]
the contest isnt even close to over, and Ted isnt winning. Thats a pretty lame excuse for being a total dick.
I can understand your frustration. I know how that can be. Just understand, I think that every remaining player on the roster contributed more last year or will contribute more than him this year. Chad Henne: Our future at QB. Chad Pennington: 2x Comeback player of the year. Davone Bess: Outproduced Ginn, especially when comparing their rookie seasons. Ronnie Brown: Pro Bowl rb. Vontae Davis: Future Pro Bowl cb. Will Allen: Underrated CB that deserves more love. Ricky Williams: Perfect for his role. Solid now, most assuredly a true NFL survivor. Yeremiah Bell: Very solid FS, only knock is that he can't catch. Patrick Cobbs: Really bloomed as a 3rd option, especially out of the wildcat. Joey Porter: MVP of the defense. Justin Smiley: Was on pace for a solid year, before he got hurt. Kendall Langford: Should be a tremendous 3-4 DE for us for years. Vernon Carey: One part of a pair of bookened Tackles. Jake Long: See Above. Anthony Fasano: Great year for him as a TE. Will continue to blossom. Greg Camarillo: Deserves credit. Has done more with less than arguably any other WR in the NFL. Jason Ferguson: Our NT. Look at the YPC the other team put up against us when he was out. Phillip Merling: NT of the future. Solid against the run and the pass. Matt Roth: Second on the team in sacks. Started to look comfortable at OLB at the end of the year. Most thought he may get cut last year, but he ended up being a surprise for us at OLB. Tony Sparano: Coach of the year last year. Jason Taylor: Future HOFer, all time Phins leader in sacks. I'd make the argument that EVERY ONE of these players deserves to be put ahead of Ginn. I'll say it again. This has nothing to do with my belief about Ginn and his potential. I just think these guys rate higher on the board at this point in time, based on what they did last year and what I think they will do this year. Hopefully this clears up any misconceptions.
How can you give Bess props, yet not understand the basic concept of it being Ginn's presence on the field that allowed Bess to have open routes underneath? Makes no sense to me. Of course Bess had a better year...he didn't have as much coverage on him because of Ginn, and he was running routes that played to Pennington's strengths. Blind hatred of Ginn is all this is.
You're right. It was Teddy's speed and the fact that he was double-covered, not Bess's superior route-running and Pennington's accuracy, that allowed Bess to have such a great year. Except that he wasn't double-covered. And he was targted more than either Bess or Camarillo. It has nothing to do with hatred of a player - I like Ginn, and when he plays this fall I hope he lights it up. I just don't think this should be a popularity contest where folks are forced to go along with the masses, that's all.
Ok, so Ginn will contribute less than our backup QB, Bess, Camarillo, Ricky, Cobbs in our offense...... riiiiiiight........
Ginn caught more passes than anyone on the team. He stayed healthy the entire year. He got better as the season progressed, and he made a lot of huge plays for us. Bess is good, but he didn't win us any games. And Camarillo cant be dissed, no matter what, because of what he did in 07. But you know what I would say about his roster status, if I were willing to say it.