EDIT: Please do not post full articles. And provide a link as required by TOS. -Admin Very disturbing report out of Australia. Their rugby league known as The NRL, is going through a very ugly scandal. http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,25475424-28737,00.html [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QeEGudtHbRg&feature=channel_page"]YouTube - Code of misconduct The Australian[/ame] Do you believe a culture like this exists in our American sports ? I found this extremely distastful and really disturbing. Are young football and baseball players being allowed to act this way as well ? We have a number of ex-jocks (football, baseball, wrestlers and basketball etc) players that post on the site. Do any of you guys know of this kind of behavior withing your sporting career ? What did you see or participate in and if you did do you now regret some of the things you participated in ?
i dunno about the young part, the hole 16-17 years old, that might be different over there, but i know for a fact this type of thing happens over here with our athletes as well.
absolutley it happens.....i know for a fact i was on a college campus with a friend of mine who i played with in highschool and was visiting him at his campus (its a big school) i wont name the school.....but after the game.....3 girls came into a room with about 15 of us (football players from the team) and they were passed around like a joint at woodstock.....many guys i know who play college ball and have promising futures know of plenty of times they or teamates had condoms get holes poked in them by the women to try to get pregnant with the chance of being attached to a future nfl or mlb or nba player......its crazy
But Sick, do you see how wrong that was ? How degrading to the women ? Maybe in your case it wasn't the same, but in this case in Australia, it seems that even Matty Johns is saying that the girl was intimidated into having sex with more than one guy. She thought she was going with one guy, and then all of a sudden 4 or 5 more players showed up in the room, and she was scared so she went along with the sex. That actually constitutes rape in this country.
Sick I understand what you are saying but that is not the same scenario here. These girls in Australia were more or less intimidated into having sex with more than one player. These weren't just gold-digging sports ho's.
no its not wrong.....3 consenting adult women know whats right and wrong.....they were waiting infront of the apartment....same chicks every week....they werent forced into anything....they themselves brought the booze.....they wanted sex, fair game.
Sick how was your sloppy 10ths? I'm not surprised 1 bit. How many times have you heard a Professional athlete get caught up having a relationship with a girl aged 18 and under? Hearing this wasnt a shock at all.
yea i had similar story as well. i understand both sides of the arguement. with your story it seems 100% like the girls were ready for it. some cases though ive witnessed it didnt seem like the girls were 100% with the train, not that they said no or dont or tried to stop, but they did seem unsure. im not sure what that truly means to be honest, do they want to do it, but just scared, or do they not and is scared to say no? to me if 5 guys suddenly walked in the room and some girl was like "**** no thats not happening" that would be it, but it seems like those girls that didnt want it to happen, but instead let it, were afraid because she might not get her chance with the first guy... i smoked weed for the first time because i was pressured, isnt that just peer pressure and not a crime though?
I guess we are sorta talking apples and oranges then, as the women in Australia seem to have been unaware that it would be multiple numbers of men having sex with them, and in your case these women were actually seeking that out. But the deeper subject on this is, the culture of sports in America, is it set up for athletes to take advantage of women, and is that something that should be changed ? Is it acceptable for this behavior to continue ?
The part about being intimidated is very doubtful, at least in that instance. I've investigated similar sorts of claims in a previous career and the person making the allegation in this case IMO obviously has some serious issues unrelated to this incident and her allegations just don't have the ring of truth to them. To my, admittedly cynical and jaundiced, eye this looks to me like someone who's done somthing stupid and then had a case of the regrets and because she was already f***ed up it made her even more f***ed up. I know of far worse incidents than the one being reported but never made it into the papers, however most of them started at least as consensual sex between one girl and several players. Group sex is a problem, and it is a function of several things. 1) Girls throwing themselves at players. 2) Players living in a self contained world where they only deal with other football people, the majority of whom are their team mates. 3) Players having too much money and too much spare time. 4) Good football players by definition are team oriented people who also are risk takers who like to expand the envelope. 5) The football clubs doing almost anything to ensure that good players are taken care of to maximise their chance of winning on any given Sunday. Similar incidents have been reported in European football (soccer), cricket and pretty well every professional sport I know of.
