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Dennis Green thinks Parcells will take a chance on Vick

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by RickyNeverInhaled, Jun 29, 2009.

  1. RickyNeverInhaled

    RickyNeverInhaled Well-Known Member

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    Don't shoot the messenger. i don't agree and i hope Dennis Green is wrong, but i thought i would post this article from PFT for whatever its worth.

     
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  2. slickj101

    slickj101 Is Water

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    I just read this a few minutes ago.

    I hope everyone else had as good a laugh as I did.
     
  3. steveincolorado

    steveincolorado Spook, Storme & Pebbles

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    Hell NO, F No, F Vick.
    I would rather lose without him than win with him.

    I'm not going to shoot the messenger, but I might:shifty:
     
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  4. Alex44

    Alex44 Boshosaurus Rex

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    Only reason I'm opposed to it, is that there is no-one I would cut to make room for him.
     
  5. calphin

    calphin deadly at 250 yards!!

    the only reason Green is saying that is because of the wildcat...
     
  6. Disnardo

    Disnardo Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Can't pay to much attention to what D.Greene said...

    If the way he thinks is the way he coached, then we know why he is out of a job and still out of one...

    What has he been up to lately????

    That's right, no one knows, and this is just a way to grab attention...after "we knew what they were and we let them get away," speach...

    We mostly read what Parcells and the FO said about Pat White, and to why he drafted him. His accuracy, something that Vicks surely lacks...
     
  7. GARDENHEAD

    GARDENHEAD Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    No way Goddell lets Vick play in the NFL in 2009.

    Wake me in 2010 and we can have a robust discussion then.
     
  8. Pauly

    Pauly Season Ticket Holder

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    I think I can re-write that entire article in 3 words.
    "Off season filler".

    There!
     
  9. azfinfanmang

    azfinfanmang Premium Member Luxury Box

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    I think somebody kicked "Denny" in the balls a little too hard (Anybody ever here him talk).

    This guy has no idea what he is talking about IMHO
     
  10. alen1

    alen1 New Member

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    Dennis Green was a smart and good coach in my opinion but the addition of Vick wouldn't make much sense to me. Vick is by far the most dangerous running quarterback I've ever seen but his passing isn't much different than Pat White's, who's also a guy they invested an early second round pick for and is pretty elusive in the open field himself. I also don't think that the reinstatement of Vick should be automatically included. Who knows if he's back? He violated federal laws and lied to the commissioner's face more than once when asked about dog fighting.

    Great to see you again. Hope all is well, Cal.
     
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  11. calphin

    calphin deadly at 250 yards!!

    thanks.
     
  12. FinSane

    FinSane Cynical Dolphins Fan

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    why dont you tell us how you really feel :shifty:
     
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  13. azfinfanmang

    azfinfanmang Premium Member Luxury Box

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    As much as I respect your knowledge young one, I have to completely disagree.
    Study his gigs as HC at Minnesota and Arizona
    He had by far more talent than anybody in Minny and couldn't get the job done.
    He is barely removed from FAILING miserably in Phoenix and they go to the freakin Superbowl.

    I think he has had very very fortunate opportunities and has floundered miserably both places. :up:
     
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  14. Dol-Fan Dupree

    Dol-Fan Dupree Tank? Who is Tank? I am Guy Incognito.

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    I know, what a horrible coach. I cannot believe he told his kicker to miss the field goal after making everyone during the regular season. What a horrible horrible coach.
     
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  15. FinSane

    FinSane Cynical Dolphins Fan

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    actually the 98-99 Vikings were a FG kick by Morten Andersen from being in the SB.
     
  16. NolePhin

    NolePhin Look out for D-Bess

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    It does sound far-fetched, but I know that all of us, or at least most of us have complete faith in Parcells and the rest of our organization.

    Whether I am for Vick or not, I have enough faith in our FO that if that is what they think we need to become more successful, then I will support them.
     
  17. alen1

    alen1 New Member

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    I actually think he's done pretty well in his coaching career considering what he's had to work with at some places. Even going back to his days at Northwestern in which he had very little talent in a tough conference and while he didn't win many games, his players fought hard. At Stanford, he turned a pretty lousy team around into a winner. Then went to San Francisco and did well as the running backs coach and had a lot of praise from Bill Walsh. He got the Minnesota job and had success but struggled in the playoffs. In Arizona, it wasn't pretty, I agree. His team struggled on both sides of the ball every year he was there.
     
  18. steveincolorado

    steveincolorado Spook, Storme & Pebbles

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    Because I don't want to get a PM from the cool MOD's:shifty:
     
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  19. VanDolPhan

    VanDolPhan Club member Club Member

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    Cocaine's a hell of a drug......
     
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  20. padre31

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    Who'd a thunk it...:lol:

    Chances are good Green himself is trying to sign Vick up for the UFL and by bringing Tuna's name into the mix that could give him cover to do so.

    That or Green is trying to drive a segment of Dolphins fans insane with rage over the thought of Vick in coral and white...
     
  21. Sethdaddy8

    Sethdaddy8 Well-Known Member

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    Denny is better off in beer commercials and stand-up comedy.
     
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  22. Celtkin

    Celtkin <B>Webmaster</b> Luxury Box

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    LINK?

    Seriously, my friend, don't post without including a link and don't post whole articles. Not doing so will get us in deep doo doo.
     
  23. RickyNeverInhaled

    RickyNeverInhaled Well-Known Member

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    i was thinking along those lines as well when i read the article.

    The other thing i was thinking was, since when does Dennis Green know what Parcells wants? Does he know what kind of cereal Parcells prefers too? LOL
     
  24. RickyNeverInhaled

    RickyNeverInhaled Well-Known Member

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    forgive my tone but i'm sick and tired of explaining this: PFT has new stories every minute, if i gave you a link the story would be lost. that's why i always mention PFT and past the whole article. that's the only site i do that with.
     
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  25. alen1

    alen1 New Member

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    Actually if you click on the title of each PFT tidbit, it'll give you the page alone. Example: Green thinks Dolphins will take chance on Vick.
     
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  26. finserg

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    The Falcons GM also mention he would see someone with the wildcat offense signing him so he can make a immediate impact.,Then again thats a no brainer.He also said he would sign for the vet minimum.
     
  27. TiP54

    TiP54 Bad Reputation

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    Alright Dennis..you keep on coaching your D3 outcasts and forget about NFL for now. The only thing that will keep you in NFL news is ESPN from now on.
     
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  28. rafael

    rafael Well-Known Member

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    I don't think Green was that far off. If we hadn't drafted White (and Goodell reinstated Vick) I would bet that Parcells would have looked hard at Vick. I don't want Vick on this team but I think Parcells has been dreaming of a way to make that offense more dangerous. Parcells also wouldn't care about the negative publicity or be worried about controlling Vick.
     
  29. FinsAreLife

    FinsAreLife Well-Known Member

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    Green is an extremely ignorant guy and always has been. He obviously doesnt know that we drafted Pat White for the wildcat so he might as well stop talking.
     
  30. steveincolorado

    steveincolorado Spook, Storme & Pebbles

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    They are who we thought they are
    Crown thier azz
     
  31. RickyNeverInhaled

    RickyNeverInhaled Well-Known Member

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    after he realizes that its not gonna happen, Green will say: "Parcells wanted who i thought he wanted, but he let him off the hook!"
     
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  32. Kanye West

    Kanye West 'Parcells' Guy

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    There is no way
     
  33. adamprez2003

    adamprez2003 Senior Member

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    i could see it only if pat white doesnt work out. not my personal choice but its not as farfetched as i would like
     
  34. Puka-head

    Puka-head My2nd Fav team:___vs Jets Club Member

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    I say bring him aboard. He can be on the practice squad and play the opposing teams DB trying to stop Ronnie Brown on the goal line. I think he would make a great speed bump.

    All kidding aside, I think Vick forfeited his priveleges to play in the NFL. But lucky for him, I'm not the commish.
     
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  35. azfinfanmang

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    Not to derail this but:

    Cmon bro. They Fought hard?

    He inherited a Not so good team in a very very tough Conference, and made them...well, not so good. No real accompishment there.





    I will agree his Stanford turn around was a very nice achievment.


    Cmon man. He was coaching Roger Craig, Joe Cribbs, Wendell Tyler and Tom freakin Rathman. Not to mention an insane Oline for them to run behind.
    Not sure exactly how much coaching was going on there.



    Once again, I suggest going and studying the roster he had to work with in Minnesota. Insane Talent on both sides of the ball. IMO, there is no way he shouldve been as in-effective as he was...but he pulled it off.



    Once again, he had GREAT talent in Arizona, mostly due to the fact Arizona had been bad sooooo many consecutive years in a row, they had several High- First round picks.

    I honestly thought Green was a better coach until I shared an office with a Huge Vikings fan as Green was going to Arizona. He very quickly educated me to Green's inability to coach. He very often poked my nose in it as the Cards floundered under Green...
     
  36. alen1

    alen1 New Member

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    Its hard to improve a team when you consistently don't have the talent to do so.

    Yes it was a talented team, however he did receive a lot of praise from Bill Walsh for what he did. Bill thought he was a very intelligent man and that he would have a head coaching gig very soon.

    He had a lot of success in the regular season but struggled in the post season games. I think a lot of it came down to his players turning it over.

    1994 - Steve Walsh blew that game against Chicago with 2 interceptions and the team totaled 4.

    1996 - Brad Johnson two interceptions and the team had six as a whole.

    1997 - Got to the second round by beating their first opponent. They played well (statistically) against the 49ers but were beaten because they couldn't match up from a talent standpoint. Also, Cunningham threw an INT for 6.

    1998 - Lost on a late field goal against Atlanta in the second playoff game. Final was 30-27.

    1999 - Got to the second round and faced the Rams, who won the SB that year I believe. Jeff George threw one pick and the Vikings defense allowed 49 points.

    2000 - Got to the second round to face the NYG, who were in the SB that year. Culpepper threw three interceptions and the defense allowed 41 points.

    IMO, it looks like his players, specificially his QB's, failed to execute the game plan.

    Your right, he did struggle in Arizona.

    To each his own.
     
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  37. AllianceCollect

    AllianceCollect The Beautiful Mrs. AC....

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    Meshawn is hosting "Rome is Burning" and had a small segment where he basically backed-up Green's statement & agreed that Parcells would persue Vick if/when he is re-instated.

    I think he is also still waiting for Parcells to sign him to our WR corps.....
     
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  38. Dorfdad

    Dorfdad Well-Known Member

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    and thats why hes a FORMER HEAD COACH! That would be a stupid decision for a fanbase and team looking for good PR and a good player.
     
  39. NolePhin

    NolePhin Look out for D-Bess

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    Lol apparently Vick is now working as a camp counselor in Virginia. Just heard it on NFLN
     
  40. DrAstroZoom

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    Does anyone know if this tidbit was the source of Tim Graham's ESPN.com speculation about Vick as a possibility in Miami?
     

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