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Mlb 104 ped user list

Discussion in 'Other Sports Forum' started by BigDogsHunt, Jun 29, 2009.

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  1. BigDogsHunt

    BigDogsHunt Enough talk...prove it!

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    Possible MLB Steroid List Leaked??
    Not sure if this list is real or fake, nor do I understand the order as listed but it is popping up all over message boards today so I thought I would post it here for discussion.

    I personally think its a fake list...but the names are interesting for sure. No Albert, No Griffey, No Jeter, No Chipper...all good if true.

    (one of several sites with this list http://rotoinfo.com/read_article.php?articleId=318)

    1. Nomar Garciaparra
    2. Manny Ramirez
    3. Johnny Damon
    4. Trot Nixon
    5. David Ortiz
    6. Shea Hillenbrand
    7. Derek Lowe
    8. Pedro Martinez
    9. Brian Roberts
    10. Jay Gibbons
    11. Melvin Mora
    12. Jerry Hairston
    13. Jason Giambi
    14. Alfonso Soriano
    15. Raul Mondesi
    16. Aaron Boone
    17. Andy Pettitte
    18. Jose Contreras
    19. Roger Clemens
    20. Carlos Delgado
    21. Vernon Wells
    22. Frank Catalanotto
    23. Kenny Rogers
    24. Magglio Ordonez
    25. Sandy Alomar
    26. Bartolo Colon
    27. Brent Abernathy
    28. Jose Lima
    29. Milton Bradley
    30. Casey Blake
    31. Danys Baez
    32. Craig Monroe
    33. Dmitri Young
    34. Alex Sanchez
    35. Eric Chavez
    36. Miguel Tejada
    37. Eric Byrnes
    38. Jose Guillen
    39. Keith Foulke
    40. Ricardo Rincon
    41. Bret Boone
    42. Mike Cameron
    43. Randy Winn
    44. Ryan Franklin
    45. Freddy Garcia
    46. Rafael Soriano
    47. Scott Spiezio
    48. Troy Glaus
    49. Francisco Rodriguez
    50. Ben Weber
    51. Alex Rodriguez
    52. Juan Gonzalez
    53. Rafael Palmeiro
    54. Carl Everett
    55. Javy Lopez
    56. Gary Sheffield
    57. Mike Hampton
    58. Ivan Rodriguez
    59. Derrek Lee
    60. Bobby Abreu
    61. Terry Adams
    62. Fernando Tatis
    63. Livan Hernandez
    64. Hector Almonte
    65. Tony Armas
    66. Dan Smith
    67. Roberto Alomar
    68. Cliff Floyd
    69. Roger Cedeno
    70. Jeromy Burnitz
    71. Moises Alou
    72. Sammy Sosa
    73. Corey Patterson
    74. Carlos Zambrano
    75. Mark Prior
    76. Kerry Wood
    77. Matt Clement
    78. Antonio Alfonseca
    79. Juan Cruz
    80. Aramis Ramirez
    81. Craig Wilson
    82. Kris Benson
    83. Richie Sexson
    84. Geoff Jenkins
    85. Valerio de los Santos
    86. Benito Santiago
    87. Rich Aurilia
    88. Barry Bonds
    89. Andres Galarraga
    90. Jason Schmidt
    91. Felix Rodriguez
    92. Jason Christiansen
    93. Matt Herges
    94. Paul Lo Duca
    95. Shawn Green
    96. Jeromy Burnitz
    97. Adrian Beltre
    98. Eric Gagne
    99. Guillermo Mota
    100. Luis Gonzalez
    101. Todd Helton
    102. Ryan Klesko
    103. Gary Matthews
    104. Oliver Perez
     
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  2. Alex44

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    I love the random names like Antonio Alfonseca. Just goes to show steroids dont always make you a star :lol:
     
  3. BigDogsHunt

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    Yeah, that was proven with the Mitchell report and Randy Valarde, David Segui on it.:hi5:
     
  4. Jt0323

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    No Griffey, No Jeter then Im happy
     
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  5. PeaTearGriffin

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    I think the order is listed by the team they played for at the time
     
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  6. Crappy Tipper

    Crappy Tipper AKA Hero13

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    I say ban every one of the cheating bastards. Liars, cheaters, thiefs and thugs are ruining this world and should be dealt with accordingly.



    *** I realize this isn't a current list, but I think it should be a one strike and done system *****

    cheating is cheating.
     
  7. unluckyluciano

    unluckyluciano For My Hero JetsSuck

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    you forgot the most important no chipper jones :tongue2:
     
  8. BigDogsHunt

    BigDogsHunt Enough talk...prove it!

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    If true!!!......lots of names not listed rebuild some trust....but then again a name not on the list simply means not tested postive for this specific testing.

    This 2003 testing was KNOWN testing to all who took it per the agreement with the union...and 104 fools got caught.....stupid is as stupid does.
     
  9. Ray Finkle

    Ray Finkle Member

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    I think we should hold off from discussions until we find out if the list is real or not however I see 2 names on the list that I know were users and know 1 of those names indeed are on the real list.
     
  10. unluckyluciano

    unluckyluciano For My Hero JetsSuck

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    you guys don't discuss it, im already drunk and celebrating. :pointlol:
     
  11. Crappy Tipper

    Crappy Tipper AKA Hero13

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    My sentiment is more a generality not so much based on the names on the list. It's would be a very easy list to forge. Sprinkle in a few confirmed users and you lend instant credibility.
     
  12. Ray Finkle

    Ray Finkle Member

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    And this is different from any other day for you? I mean besides the dead hookers of course.
     
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  13. BigDogsHunt

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    Its not that its a current list...its speculation on the OFFICIAL 104 list that did test positive in 2003...which proved that over 5% in MLB was using PED...that 5%+ (I think that was the agreement) forced the unions and MLB FO to change rules and create further testing and penalties.

    This 104 was never published but the recent names being leaked have led to the AROD and Sosa outings.....everyone believes someone in the Justice Dept is leaking these names, and if true, the full list has finally been leaked.

    The joke, is that MLB FO and the Union agreed to the testing (anonymous in theory, but they put the players names on the bottle to track who was abusing...idiots), and the UNION was supposed to have destroyed the list, but through some error it was kept and not destroyed.

    The Bonds case is what has supposedly led to the finding of this list from subpoenas of the Lab that conducted the testing, etc.

    Who knows..but a comedy of errors has lead to the list being found, names being exposed, and Mitchell report details, etc.
     
  14. unluckyluciano

    unluckyluciano For My Hero JetsSuck

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    yeah but this time I'm not crying............. of course till the dead hooker part..........
     
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  15. BigDogsHunt

    BigDogsHunt Enough talk...prove it!

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    I am not asking anyone to be convicted, but simply like yourself, we have some that have inside info to add to the discussion. :hi5:
     
  16. Tone_E

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    Lets face it, Griffey is the only slugger of our day that is legit.

    Hall of fame!! The others should go to the hall of shame.....and yes, they should make one. Might as well put it in Buffalo.
     
  17. muscle979

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    Real, fake, it doesn't matter. I didn't even have to open this thread to know Chipper wouldn't be on the list. Griffey is another guy you know never did that stuff.
     
  18. Ray Finkle

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    Haha sorry but I'm not saying anything more. I've been told by more than 1 credible source but there's no way I'd disclose who, especially on a message board. Maybe after 5 or 6 beers that's another story.... :up:
     
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  19. dolphindebby

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    Richie Sexson
    Who did he play for? There was a Richie Sexson that played for the Columbus Redstixx several years ago. It was the Cleveland farm team.
    I remember him as tall and skinny.
    IF it is him, it's a shame, he was good.
     
  20. Mainge

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    Burnitz is on twice. 70 and 96.
     
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  21. BigDogsHunt

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    http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/s/sexsori01.shtml

    Came up with CLE, time with MIL and SEA are most known. :hi5:
     
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  22. BigDogsHunt

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    Weird...oh, well.....:tantrum::cry:
     
  23. dolphindebby

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    Thanks. He was such a nice kid. I hate it if this is true.
    Watched him on first base down here, he was pretty good.
    He played when Pete Rose Jr. was playing down here, if I'm not mistaken.
    The stadium was packed back then, now it's no more. Shame people wouldn't support it.
     
  24. Samphin

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    I counted 19 former or current Dodgers. :lol:
     
  25. Ray Finkle

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    I think it's safe to say the list is fake. It's been more than a few hours and none of the major sports news stations or websites have picked it up or even commented on it.

    Seriously who the hell is #66 Dan Smith? I can't for the life of me remember him even after looking him up and he actually pitched in 3 games for the Red Sox in 2000.
     
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  26. PENNSYLVANIADOLPHAN

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    YES, No Albert Pujols. Better yet, no Marlins!
     
  27. Boik14

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    Sad as it is I have 22 mets on that list. Delgado, Pedro and Shawn Green would truly surprise me. Not that the Mets are immune but i felt those guys had character, instead of being characters. I refuse to believe Livan's on there. He simply throws too many pitches to do steroids; his arm would simply fall off. Just last month he threw over 200 pitches in a game between the actual game (127) and warmups (85)
     
  28. finattic79

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    Yeah I agree that it is most likely fake. If this was the real list, it was be huge breaking news on all sports sites and regular news would be talking about it as well.
     
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  29. finfansince72

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    Yep Griffey > than Bonds/Sosa/Mac/anyone that took roids. Best player of that generation.
     
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  30. Samphin

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    Not to mention that Barry Bonds is implicated on this list. Had it been true, this would be the smoking gun that EVERYBODY had been waiting for.
     
  31. Samphin

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    Shawn Green and Pedro were on my list of former Dodgers too. Shawn Green seems like he has a ton of intregity, but then again, so did a lot of guys who later ended up being exposed.

    I don't think that this list is accurate, but there really wasn't a name on it that completely surprised me either. I suppose it goes to show you the level of jaded we all have become as baseball fans.
     
  32. Jt0323

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    The day i find that Griffey took steroids is the day i am done with Baseball... But thankfully, i dont think that day will come!
     
  33. King Felix

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    i was surprised i didnt see andruw jones name
     
  34. BigDogsHunt

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    Julio Franco for me....
     
  35. finfansince72

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    That is surprising, I mean the guy was ripped and still playing at 73 years old lol.
     
  36. High Definition

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    Let me ask this question again... What's the difference between the MLB and WWE? Both are fake.

    It's sad that people give this league enough attention to keep it "premier"... Sad. It doesn't deserve prime time spotlights.
     
  37. DonShula84

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    Steroids isnt what makes the WWE fake...And if drug use is all it takes to make a league fake the NFL has been fake for a very long time.
     
  38. DonShula84

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    I'm not buying the list. If it is true, glad Vlad isnt on it. Other than that I'm not buying it at all. This thing would be all over ESPN if it were confirmed as true. I'll wait for that confirmation before giving this list much weight.
     
  39. unluckyluciano

    unluckyluciano For My Hero JetsSuck

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    we already said that captain repeat . :pity:
     
  40. DonShula84

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    pffft, suuuure you did.
     

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