are they not supposed to be able to jump when they catch the ball? IMO it isn't like last years when you could rip the ball out of the sky with the bigger wrs .
You're thinking of spectacular catching. That occurred randomly, but only done when trying to rocket catch (if that makes sense). Rocket catching is sending a WR deep, and then under throwing so he can come back and jump up and make a catch that's undefendable. Sure it can be stopped some of the time, but the success rate is better than any other play. The raiders were thew team of choice online for that reason (plus fast *** CB). So I played the demo a few more times and I don't have anything new to add. With 1 min quarters, it's impossible to tell if the game is any good. Snowy weather sucks too because that has a big effect on drops and fumbles... Man coverage seems unbeatable this year for CPU defense. They're all over my WR before my WR even make a cut.
yeah, the 1 min qtr demo is lame as hell. go to gamestop and reserve a copy. if you are on 360, then u get a code to download the 5 mins qtr demo. im downloading it right now. its a rematch of the super bowl, with no snow. it should be a better way to practice. 1 min qtrs u cant even run the ball.
Dude, have you really messed with the WC yet? Everything to the outside is hard as hell to stop. Felix Jones eats NYG alive... I was avg. 7 yards a carry. Set up like you're going to go inside and bounce it out. Pretty much open field. Oh and I did find 1 exploit. Press coverage sucks balls on fly routes. All of my WR get a step or two and are open for 15 yards a pop (when they don't drop them...). CB blitz (Nickle) are hard as **** to stop. Keeping a RB in the back field is smart. Are you online right now?
Don't think I don't want to/haven't thought about it. However if I get caught and banned from Live or whatever else they do, then my 360 is worthless and I must buy a new one and another 360 will run me at least $200 +tax...which I especially can't afford. However if you have any sure fire ways of not getting caught PM me by any means.
QTEs have been over done, although I have to admit that Vid of Kratos ripping off a dude's head in GoW III is bad ***.
The great new measuring system interferes with hurry up offense... If you go into animation you can't run up and snap or spike it... Unreal. The refs also look like defensive players. I can't tell you how many times I've looked to throw to an open WR and throw it elsewhere because he's being covered... so ****ing stupid.
hurry up in general is hard to do. you have to press it right away or it wont happen. i got it to work after the chain gang came out once.
QB accuracy is horrendous... Anything beyond 15 yards is total chance. Leading passes is super sensitive. Maybe it's because of the snow. Gish will have to confirm or deny based on his Card vs. Pitt Demo... I've run the ball a little more successfully. Brandon Jacobs is unreal in his ability to drag people. I dragged Terrance Newman 10 yards one play for a TD. It was hilarious.
I returned two kickoffs with for TDs on my first game with Arizona. Im tellin yall, kick returns are ridiculously easy. Im not even breaking tackles. I just set up my blocks by taking a good anlge, then cut into the hole and its over. The defense simply cant catch up. Remember in Madden 09 when you would pick a pass off with someone like Terrence Newman, and then get chased down by a lineman? EA basically reversed that by 200%. If you get into the open field with someone fast, its over. Even though the game is slow, you have the fastest slow player on the field (if that makes sense).
Not sure if I like the game being totally slowed down... I'm able to user pick real easy now. Imagine what Aboome is going to be able to do... I have to adjust to the slowed passing too... I can't thread the needle like I used to. CB have so much more chance to break on a ball. S too.
You can change the game speed in the retail version. Where in that video does it say he is rocket catching on All-Pro or AM? That guy can rocket catch all he wants against the computer on Rookie as long as it doesn't work on AP or AM I'm good.
I RC in AP with NYG... Did it a few times. It's a little harder because the plays don't jerk around as quick, but it's possible still.
game speed for online and tourny play will be locked. the guy RC in that video is not a rookie. he is a beast. i know its on all pro because i did it too.
I like the demo, but cant stand how on all madden every pass i throw gets dropped. da game is fun and i like how if u leave larry Fitzgerald 1 on 1 he is making the catch most of the time. Gish idk about you but i struggle to return kicks my cpu ai cant block for ****. Defense is different now man coverage is on beast mode there is no point to play zone.
if youre struggling on kick reutrns, youre probably doing too much. i actually ran one back all the way to the 20 by just running in a straight line. i didnt even move to go around anyone. this is on all pro, but still it shouldnt be this easy. on the rest of my big returns i hold turbo the whole time and follow my first couple blocks. the rest is cake. man coverage is definately improved. the ratings really show up there. top corners like terrance newman will stay in front of the receiver on drag routes. lesser defenders can be beat. slants seem to be open quite a bit, but you still gotta beat the press first, and you cant just throw a lead pass bullet and expect the WR to snap to the ball. the more i play this demo, the more im impressed with wr/db interaction. you cant just close ur eyes and throw a pass after making the presnap read. sometimes the DB will press the WR for a very long time and it will result in a sack. if you have really good press corners, then you can run pretty much any defense you want on any play. its gonna take me a while to ignore the referees on the field. i keep thinking im seeing a qb spy in the middle, and an extra safety deep. good news though, you can throw passes right through them. just pretend they arent there. but it looks like the defense has 13 players. i figured out the hurry up offense. you can only do hurry up when the clock is running. this is probably one of the smartest changes they made to the game. im surprised they didnt feature this change as one of their key improvements. now you wont be 100% dependant on your defensive audibles. youll be able to change your personell after every incomplete pass, or when the player goes out of bounds.
against cover 3, you can RC with fades, outside slants (from slot and the flank), and outs. buzz zones and man coverage completely shut it down though. also, press coverage completely messes up the timing. sometimes the wr doesnt start running his route until you got a defender ready to sack you. RC seems to be a fair tactic this year. it does destroy the intermediate sideline area, but you can just as easily throw a precision pass and make the grab without RC in the same area. it will be much harder to RC this year just because of the fact zone coverage wont be used as frequentely. i doubt there will be as many people who run cover 3 all game long this year. my favorite defenses so far are the Pinch play from 3-4 Predator, and Cover 2 from Dime Normal. Any play with a Dline stunt seems to break the pocket up much easier.
I play it on all-madden and haven't been able to return one back yet. I average around the 35 which is pretty realistic.
Which demo do you have? I drop a **** load in the Dallas vs. NYG demo. I thought it was because of snow... I threw a bomb to Roy Williams and he had a step to the outside and dropped a perfect pass that hit him in the gut... On kickoffs, pick y (return right) and run towards the middle a bit, then when your blockers engage jerk right and you'll be down the sidelines... It's hella easy. QB accuracy is much different. It's very realistic. In one game I went 11/12 and in another I went 7/13. In years past, you could hit 70%+ easy... Not any more. Nothing is guaranteed.
OK... Personal foul late hits are LAME... If you're diving and the guy runs out of bounds, 15 yards. What a load of ****. In the regular demo, WR slip on cuts and **** you up. A). Either they fall and it's pick 6 or they fall when you're under pressure and the icon for that WR disappears. I do like the rumble to give you a heads up when you've got someone in your face. eta: You have to steer the ball when throwing. If someone is over the top, under throw. Last year it really threw the ball way behind. This year it throws it so the S over the top can't pick it. Much better.
all of the complaints you guys have been talking about for the last 2 pages is the exact reasons why I want this game. It is more R-E-A-L. In real life, of course if you put press coverage against Fitzy on a fly pattern he will blow right by you. In real life you don't run the whole game in the hurry up unless you're Jim Kelly. In real life EVERY QB is less accurate when throwing passes over 15 yards. In real life if a guy gets the ball in open field with no defenders in front of him, most of the time they will not get caught from behind. You guys are selling me more and more on this game. Posted via Mobile Device
damnit i still haven't beat the cpu on all madden!!! I went up on the steelers 20 - 19 with 1 min left on the clock Big Ben lead his team up the field on me to my 38 were their kicker kicked the GW field goal 22 -20 FML. this game is great i cant wait till its release.
Played the demo a few more times... I still think All Pro Football is the best football game on 360 in terms of gameplay. This is pretty good, though.
Wildcat = pwnage... With a fast enough RB, the WC is unstoppable... I just went 82 yards with Felix Jones as the trigger man. Jets sweep is legit too w/Marion Barber. CB can't handle him 1-1.
its called objective analysis. we've said good and bad, because there IS good and bad. too many people try to convince themselves that the new Madden is going to be perfect so they can justify spending their money on it. Pointing out flaws in the game isnt complaining. It's reality.
The people expecting perfection aren't much better man... I think there's a difference between people who convince themselves Madden is perfect and people who expect perfection or it's a failure. Not saying you're crossing a line or anything.. but there is just as many who convince themselves that Madden is perfect as there are people expecting perfection and nothing else.
I'm not one of the guys looking for perfection. But I definitely want something that is more of a simulation than an arcade style video game. If I want to be able to rack up points and rack up insane unrealistic stats, I'd go play Tecmo SuperBowl. So far I think this demo shows that this is the closest to a true NFL simulation than any other game in history.
i expect recurring problems to be addressed. i dont like how the AI can trigger animations that defy the laws of physics. i dont like how players give up their position to lay big hits instead of swatting a pass or getting the easy pick. theres seems to be less of it this year, so hopefully it will be a thing of the past in a few years time. heres how the AI works right now. ball carrier runs toward defender --> CPU compares the ball carriers tackle breaking skills to the defenders tackling skills --> those attributes determine the probability of which animation will be performed how it should work.... ball carrier runs toward defender --> CPU factors in realtime speed, acceleration, mass, leverage, and angle of pursuit --> whoever has the superior positioning and force should win.
You cherry picked for those... And one (the fly route press cov) wasn't negative, just an exploit. If you see press cov, hot route to fly. Also, I had a different post later in which I said accuracy is more realistic. Unlike last year when I could go 75%+ comp. every game with no effort. Madden 10 demo > Madden 09 the game. There's stuff I don't like and stuff I do. All I know is I'm going to pwn you in the 360 league
Something nice i noticed playing the demo this morning... the squib kick is back!!! Only took what... 5 years.
