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Madden 2010 Demo on XBL

Discussion in 'Gaming Forum' started by mor911, Jul 23, 2009.

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  1. Frumundah Finnatic

    Frumundah Finnatic U Mad Miami?

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    IRC: The Cowboys didnt use the WildCat, nor did the Steelers or Cardinals.
     
  2. Tone_E

    Tone_E Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    That is what Backbreaker did exactly. I heard a rumour that EA bought them out, and have cancelled any development of the game. I don't think it will hit the market.
     
  3. resnor

    resnor Derp Sherpa

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    The demo is running on the slowest level, I believe. When the game releases, the online play will be sped up. So, if you don't like the speed, it will be a little faster when playing online. Playing offline, you'll be able to set the speed to whatever you want.
     
  4. resnor

    resnor Derp Sherpa

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    Oh, is the commit feature gone completely, or just not in the demo, or does it just not tell you that you're committing this year? I have been trying to call run commit, and pass commit, and it doesn't seem like it's working.

    Also, how are you guys getting user picks? I was pretty good at getting user picks in 09, and I haven't had one user pick on the demo, and I've played a ton of games on it, both against the computer, and against my buddy. We play on All Pro and All Madden.
     
  5. aboome

    aboome Resident Madden God Club Member

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    yea i got my first user pick against the cpu yesterday. its tougher this year the cpu is smarter
     
  6. resnor

    resnor Derp Sherpa

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    Well, it's not so much about the computer being smarter...it's my guy not going up for the picks. I've been jumping routes, and going for the pick...only to watch my player not go into any animation for catching the ball.
     
  7. sking29

    sking29 What it takes to be cool

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    I wholeheartedly agree.
     
  8. GISH

    GISH ~mUST wARN oTHERS~

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    Adaptive AI

    What its supposed to do: Its supposed to prevent you from running the same play over and over by automatically altering the defense to stop plays that have been used multiple times.

    Does it work? - No. I just won a the Super Bowl 42-28 while using the same exact play the entire time on offense and defense, regardless of field position or down and distance. On offense I used a play called X Follow from the Gun Spread formation. This was one of my favorite plays in Madden 09 because it allows for quick reads and it beats both man and zone very easily. I hot route both of my left WRs to streaks to give me quad verticals, and my RB is running a quick out. Zone gives me the streak, man gives me the out. Should be simple enough for a smart defense to stop. I scored every time I had the ball, and it wasn't even a challenge. This is on All-Pro difficulty.
    On defense I used 3-4 Normal Pinch every time. I re-blitz all 3 of my d-linemen, spread my line, and then take Docket and manually blitz off the right edge, leaving the entire middle free for the taking. I instantly got to the QB nearly every time. They weren't smart enough to even attempt to run the ball because they were losing. Also, despite getting to Big Ben and crushing him over and over, I netted a total of ZERO sacks. The CPU will throw a lame duck pass every single time to avoid a sack. I picked one of them and took it to the house with Karlos Dansby.

    Summary: EA adds another gimmick that does absolutely nothing.
     
  9. Phins28

    Phins28 Up the Irons

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    Here are my thoughts on the demo:

    Pros

    • Graphics are great
    • Presentation
    • Gameplay speed, feels more realistic
    • Decent running animations
    • Passing game is good

    Cons


    • Run blocking it's awful again, I just think the dev team at EA tiburon doesn't know how to program a running game
    • A.I. still stupid, adaptive A.I. doesn't work
    • No pass rush on higher levels
    • OL still form a wall instead of a pocket
    • Zone coverage is crap

    6 years folks, 6 years since NFL 2k5 came out and still the king of football video games. The demo it's decent and feels better than 09 but it's not better than 2k5. EA needs to realize that Madden needs a new physic/animation engine and more talented programmers, it's ****ing 2009 and EA Tiburon still behind Visual concepts and 2k.
     
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  10. GISH

    GISH ~mUST wARN oTHERS~

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    YES!!!!! I FINALLY SACKED BIG BEN!!!!! I got him during a playaction animation so he couldnt throw it. HAHAHAHA!!! Only took me like 8 games to get my first sack.


    EDIT: Ive gotten 5 sacks since then (all user sacks with Darnell Dockett). Charlie Batch doesnt get rid of the ball while hes going down. Injure Big Ben, and its over.

    Final Score:
    45 - 22
    4 ints (3 with Antrel Rolle, 1 TD)
    5 sacks (all with Dockett)
    1 FR
    Steve Breaston over 200 rec yards
    Beanie Wells over 100 rec yards

    All-Pro is way too easy.
     
  11. GridIronKing34

    GridIronKing34 Silently Judging You

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    Your review means nothing after reading that. 2k5 fanboys at it again...............................
     
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  12. GISH

    GISH ~mUST wARN oTHERS~

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    ok, EA fanboy. see how easy that is. god forbid he has an opinion.
     
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  13. GridIronKing34

    GridIronKing34 Silently Judging You

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    Everyone has an opinion. But when you feel the need to say "2k5 is superior, EA sucks and it's 2009.." It's easy to tell where you stand. It's coming in with perceived notions that's an issue.

    It's like a Dolphins fan doing a review on the history of the Jets. Do you think there is going to be no bias there? I'm not saying his review is bad, it's just bias judging by the "summary" at the end.
     
  14. Clark Kent

    Clark Kent Fighter of the Nightman

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    NFL 2K5 and Madden 04 are the best two football games around. If anyone disagrees they're nuts. Also, NFL 2k5 was far more advanced than Madden 05 and most of it's predecessors. Presentation was amazing and gameplay physics were better than 09 and we'll see about 10.



    Gish- It's a demo... Maybe all that **** isn't in it yet. Or EA is making b.s. claims again. P.S. You just learned to sack people? Pfft. n00b.

    P.s. I've been reading about nano blitzes being back hardcore... Kinda pisses me off. I know the AI gets insane pressure from the blitz.
     
  15. GISH

    GISH ~mUST wARN oTHERS~

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    Lol, have you played against Big Ben yet? Let me know when you sack him. He throws the ball away every single time.
     
  16. Clark Kent

    Clark Kent Fighter of the Nightman

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    I'll pwn him when I do... PWN.
     
  17. GISH

    GISH ~mUST wARN oTHERS~

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    good luck with that.
     
  18. GISH

    GISH ~mUST wARN oTHERS~

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    i just caught a TD in the back of the endzone with Boldin from 30 yards out. It got challenged and overturned. So they spot the ball at the one yard line. WTF?

    yesterday i called a timeout after they brought out the chain gang. after i broke the huddle, the clock started running again and it was the end of the half before i could snap the ball.

    these are some MAJOR issues. im thinking about canceling my preorder and just renting the game when it comes out. if this crap happens in the real game, im not buying it. crap like that is unacceptable.
     
  19. resnor

    resnor Derp Sherpa

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    There's already a patch that will be downloaded when you first play the game...
     
  20. GridIronKing34

    GridIronKing34 Silently Judging You

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    It is a raw demo, right? There were things that was screwed up with NCAA 2010 in their demo but it was fixed when the official game game out if I recall. I guess I haven't played the Cards/Steelers demo yet, I plan on reserving a copy of Madden later today though...
     
  21. GridIronKing34

    GridIronKing34 Silently Judging You

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    For their time frame, I can understand. You can say "NFL 2K5/Madden 04 are the best football games compared to their time frame" and that would be more acceptable. But to say that 2K5/Madden 04 is a better game than Madden 10 is now... Doesn't hold water, IMO. EA has made improvements on their game in 5 years, maybe not as much as people want... but what they have now is better than what they had in 2004 or 2005.
     
  22. Clark Kent

    Clark Kent Fighter of the Nightman

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    In terms of sheer entertainment value and quality, 2k5 and M04 were bar none better. They were fun as hell. Maybe not "sim" but fun as hell. If I could roster update 2k5 or madden 04, I would rather play them over 09.

    I think Madden 10 has the ability to be truly great though. But until I sink some hours into the actual game, I can only assume.
     
  23. GridIronKing34

    GridIronKing34 Silently Judging You

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    Seems fair. I honestly didn't like 2k5. I don't know what it was about it. From my experience, people either love it or hate it. I liked the presentation aspect of 2k5, but I hated the gameplay.
     
  24. Phins28

    Phins28 Up the Irons

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    I'm not a 2k fanboy, I owned all the madden games since 06, and I thought that 06 was very good, played the hell out of it.
     
  25. mor911

    mor911 pooping

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    The gamestop 5 min demo leaked on the internet. Just an FYI, you DO NOT need a modded 360 to play downloaded demos. You need only download it and burn it to a blank disc. They're completely unlocked.
     
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  26. TheAnswer385

    TheAnswer385 Stay Low Run Free

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    where can I find it? I looked and found nothing.

    found it-You can download the one straight off the web without torrents for non torrent people.
    http://digiex.net/consoles-homebrew/1944-xbox-360-madden-nfl-10-pre-order-demo-download.html

    delete if you feel that this shouldn't be here....but I figured hey its a demo why not.
     
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  27. Clark Kent

    Clark Kent Fighter of the Nightman

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    Am I the only one who hates the refs being on the field? They hide defenders and **** me up on my reads. They need to go.
     
  28. TheAnswer385

    TheAnswer385 Stay Low Run Free

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    Like them and haven't had one issue with them
     
  29. GISH

    GISH ~mUST wARN oTHERS~

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    ull get used to it.
     
  30. Clark Kent

    Clark Kent Fighter of the Nightman

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    Go online so I can ask you questions.

    P.S. Everyone in the league is on notice. I am a sack master. LDE is very easy to use for sacks.
     
  31. Ultra

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    you guys are awesome. that's why I love this site so much :up:
     
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  32. GISH

    GISH ~mUST wARN oTHERS~

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    yeah, if you bombard the rt with 3 guys one of them gets through every time. ive been sending 3 guys on each tackle and leaving the middle wide open and the CPU fails. if they keep extra guys in to block, then whoever would have been in man coverage on that guy does a spy instead. i get mad picks because Big Ben wont take the sack. He would rather throw a pick 6 than eat dirt.

    Oh, and if you get a pick this year, you cant be chased down by warp speed offensive linemen. Its going to the house as long as there isnt a fast WR or RB right on top of you.

    my KR avg has gone down. i guess it was a fluke that i took so many kicks to the house. Ive still had a few more TDs, but not like when i played the first few times. I was getting multiple TDs per game returning kickoffs. Now im getting about 30 yards each with an occasional long one. If you get past the first wave, its over. Theres never a second wave of defenders coming from the middle to force you out of bounds.
     
  33. PeaTearGriffin

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    I hate the fumble mini game
     
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    Motion New Member

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    When have you ever been able to do this in Madden?
     
  35. Clark Kent

    Clark Kent Fighter of the Nightman

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    Every year. This year they decided to stop it by implementing slower turn rates (Ian Cummings talked about how they use to jack that stuff up). Online people would zig zag all day to stop from being user tackled. This year that will slow you down.
     
  36. Clark Kent

    Clark Kent Fighter of the Nightman

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    I Rush 4 only. What you do is hit the right stick up or down at the point of engagement and the RT whiffs like 70% of the time and the QB is going to get killed.

    What coverages do you run? I like doing zone/man combos. Zone the middle and man press the outside WR and you're going to devastate with pressure.

    Also, try shifting the secondary's zone's to the left or right side of the field based on which side of the field the offense is on. If the offense is on the left side of the field, try cover 2 and zone to the right. Take the short side CB and man him up. It's ****ing awesome. Takes away the whole field.
     
  37. Motion

    Motion New Member

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    :lol: Oh okay
     
  38. TheMageGandalf

    TheMageGandalf Senior Member

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    I know this is just a demo but it pisses me off that EVERY YEAR its like EA pays these 'reviewers' to answer the same stupid crap every year concerning Franchise mode.

    EVERY YEAR.

    It's like give DETAILS MAN. Can we finally adjust finances or is it just a stupid chart like the last few years?

    I can even forget about that, but what aboout Training your players?

    I know that the days of having a MINI-Camp before preseason are gone since the old-gen games but they had some kind of weekly training option during the season the last few years (From what you guys have told me since I havent bought any Madden since Madden 05, as 07 I played all of 30 minutes before I sent it packing so I dont count that).

    IS THAT IN this years game too or what? Because in the IGN video showing the menu and options in Madden 10, all I didnt see anything that said 'Player Training' or whatever so I dont know if thats a sub-menu within Player Management or what, you guys would know more about that....as how were you able to train your players in a mini-camp or training camp type deal in Madden 09?
     
  39. TheAnswer385

    TheAnswer385 Stay Low Run Free

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    the option usually pops up before you start a game..it will say start game or train for the game or something like that.
     
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  40. Clark Kent

    Clark Kent Fighter of the Nightman

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    I really hope they go back to the mini camp... I hate the weekly drills. So annoying and time consuming. They said player progression is fixed too, so that's good.
     

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