My "i slept on it" thoughts

The offense had every right to be gassed at the end. People always talk about how tough it is on defense to never get off the field, but when the offense is on the field for 3 quarters worth of time, earning every single yard, they are going to be feeling it.

Our defense owes everyone an apology. Our first 2 picks next draft, better be inside linebackers.

 

agree with everything you said. We couldn't tackle. We couldn't cover. I am still irritated after the first quarter dropped touchdowns. Fasano had one, and then Ginn looked like he stopped running hard and tried to catch up. And then the 3rd and 10 free play offsides towards the end, Pennington sees they're offsides and then throws an 8 yard pass, WTF. Free play, at least try something downfield.
At least we got to watch R & R pound them for 45 minutes...

 

Crowder wouldn't start on the Lions squad.

 

Good post.

Crowder sucks.

 

He's terrible in coverage yes, but he is a tackling machine. Unfortunately, when you face a great pass offense, you're coverage skills (or lack thereof) get exposed.

This team was built to stop the run - which they did for the most part. Adding Smith and Davis was a clear plan to get better in coverage, which is why next year we WILL be drafting another LB(s).

 

THIS I can agree to.

 

Don't worry about it, it was directly after the game, had to vent somehow... I was throwing them just as much as you.

 

I never thought I'd say this but: start Jason Allen.

 

WOOOOEEEE! Slow down there. Come back off from that ledge. It's going to be okay, you hear me?! It's going to be fine. No need go there. You just relax and everything will be fine. There doesn't need to be a Jason Allen sighting in the starting secondary... ever....never, ever, never.

:P

 

Good post Sick.

Thats what I've thought/said about Crowder this whole offseason. Crowder should be our #2, and Ayodele should be #3. Neither of them possess the abilities of a #1 MLB. Crowder can stop the run, and Ayodele is decent against the pass. But in situations like last night, Crowder is a huge liability.

I wouldnt write off Ginn just yet. He made two great endzone grabs last year. Im not saying thats a lot or anything. But the one against Seattle was insane, and the one against the Jets was clutch. He may turn out to be a very good #2 WR, but as of right now he's proving to be a decent #1. He converted 6 3rd downs last night. Without those, our defense would have probably given up 40 points. I'd like to see Ginn get more than two chances per game to catch something other than a dig, out, or curl. Which leads to my next point.

Henne can run this offense just as good as Pennington. Hell, Cleo Lemon could run this offense. It doesnt take much of a QB to be able to throw curl routes all game long, and get sacked when no one is open underneath. Henne can opperate this basic passing attack just as effectively. But that would mean Pennington would be the emergency QB. I would be ok with that.

 

I generally have been a crowder doubter, and yes, he sucked last night, but isn't that a coach's decision to put him in a position to do more than he's capable of doing, or not teach him effective techniques to disrupt the guy he's supposed to cover? For instance, shorten the zone Crowder is supposed to cover before its picked up by the safety (then again, if Wilson has that responsibility, don't know if it would just change the # on the shirt getting torched). But I think a good bit of the responsibility has to go on poor scheme decisions by the D coordinator.

 

one thing we have to seriously start thinking about is whether gibril wilson is struggling or this is him. I mean he was cut from the raiders, and we gave him a fat contract...looks like another ooops signing to me

 

For those making a stand for Channing Crowder, keep in mind he may not supposed to be great in coverage, however if he allows the reception then he must make the tackle and last night he pulled a Gerbil Wilson, hit the guy, slide off of him watch the play from the ground.

Gerbil Wilson:



This guy needs some company on that bench, meet your new best friend Gerbil

 

He always was an oops signing... He has the same weaknesses as Bell. Why we signed both is a mystery to me...

 

Some good things...they got the offense turned around from game one. They got the special teams turned around from game one. Hopefully they can get the defense turned around for game three. As hard as it was to watch them lose that one, it is encouraging to see that the coaching staff seems to be able to make improvements week to week.

 

Honestly, why not?
He can´t be worse than Wilson on the Safety position.
I think he did well when he had the chance to be on the field, except for the one time when he was asked to cover Moss one on one with no help as a CB.
At least he has ball skills and could come up with an INT now and then...

So far our D has produced zero turnovers...

 

I've slept on it too and I still believe that Ginn sucks at the WR position. Big time players make those catches, he needed to be a man about it and just go get the ball. Maybe next week he can put a skirt on and go be a cheerleader.

Our D, we all know played bad, but also if our O would have put TD's on the board instead of long FG's, things would be different.

I'm not going to put all the blame on Ginn, but he is a big part of why we lost.

 

Even most of the Ginn apoligists on this site would stop short of calling him a "Big Time Playmaker".

We don't, and haven't had a big time playmaker at WR for a long time.

 

But he failed at the money catches. Twice.

 

o lawd. I forgot we still have jason allen.

how about chris clemons?

 

I slept on it too. I threw up last night. And then, when I woke up this morning, I threw up again.

 

He did NOT drop two td's. He dropped ONE td which should have been PI putting us on the goalline. The first one that he "dropped" was out of his reach. Gimme a break. The loss is not on Ginn. We lost because our defense gave up 27 points. You could say that we didn't wi. Because Ginn didn't catch that ball in the endzone, but that's not the sam as saying that we lost because of him. He could have bailed out the D on a jump ball...but who throws a jump ball to Ginn???
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ever wake up feeling like someone kicked you in the dick?

 

You gotta be tough to be a PhinFan....:


I bet Wilson slowly is replaced by Culver sooner rather than later.

And let us not underestimate how well our Oline played, if they keep that up we have some hope.

 

Interesting that Pat Cobbs has taken over for Ted Ginn on kick offs and he did a fine job, but that is a sign of Ginn now being "just" a Wr.

 

Once, but I did pay extra for that... what?

 

Thank god someone else noticed this. ****ing throw it deep here, who cares if it gets picked.

 

They did very little to stop us. We stopped ourselves in the end. Their defense was tired and our offense was tired.

We are not built for a quick strike offense, plain and simple. I have very little negative to say about the offense in that game. Their defense was horrid, but ours was soooooo much worse.

 

agreed we gave up a games worth of points and they only had the ball for 15 minutes. pathetic

 

Perfectly stated. Most of his numbers come from someone else stopping the play and he adds on. He is always chasing players down field. Sometimes when they slow down to make a move, he might catch them.

 

yeah, it was very annoying to see how consistent our lack of confidence was in the passing, even on free plays.

 

how bout inside LB and a safety?