Ted Ginn Jr. I officially put you on notice

Just for the record if he catches the 1st TD, there is no telling how the rest of the game played out. The only one that would have given any certainty to the game was the 2nd one. And even then it would have left like 20 secs on the clock, which was plenty enough time for Manning to get them back in FG range given the complete sucktitude of our defense that game.

 

lol. oh boy.

Yea Ginn lost the game all by himself. Please. I am fine "putting people on notice" but lets not stop the list at Ginn then. I mean come on.. Fasano drops a ball, Ginn drops 3, The defense, well they didn't really do anything. The clock management was suspect. We win as a team we lose as a team. Hold Ginn accountable but do the same service for the others as well

 

I wouldn't even consider the first TD throw a drop. Ginn was trying to stay in bounds. If he just goes for the catch, he'd be out of bounds.

 

These "blame Ted Ginn" posts are hilarious. 10-108 and he doesn't hang onto a difficult jump ball in the endzone coming out of the lights and all of a sudden he's the goat??

Last time I looked Ginn didn't give up an 80 yarder on the opening play, didn't play inside linebacker or safety and be steps late in coverage and miss tackle after tackle and he didn't allow the Colts to go 80 yards in 4 plays and 30 seconds to win the game. Nor did he miss a 49 yard field goal that would have made any tough catch in the endzone an irrelevance.

 

wow, how did we get ireland to post on thephins.com?

 

Yes he did Boom.

 

Mr. Tedd Ginn Jr.......

 

At least someone else recognized this. The overthrow of Fasano was bad as well. Get the ball there and he scores easily.

 

oh wow, another thread blaming the guy who converted 6 3rd downs. awesome!!

 

Ginn needs to make that catch. He got both hands on the ball and should have came down with the ball plain and simple. I'm not going to go out and say he's horrible and lost us the game, but he showed that he isn't a top notch reciever. He's never going to be in the Fitzgerald, Wayne, A. Johnson status of reciever. He good last night as a possesion reciever, but those are a dime a dozen.

Also, the overthrow in the endzone, he had plenty of room to make that catch. It did look like the out of bounds was right there, but that was just the end of the dirt, had another foot for the out of bounds line. That should have been a TD as well.

Once again, he shouldn't be blamed for the loss, but he needs to come up with the catch when its there. It hit him in the hands, he needs to catch it.

 

the offensive line took a major step
the ST's much improved
overall the team played well
weakness: WR's
we need to go to free agency & pay the price
no comment of GinnJr. my opinion of him remains the same: Special TEams

 

Agreed 100%

 

The dirty secret is, get used to seeing Ted Ginn playing this year, and being counted on to be our playmaking Wr.

Unless P Turner discovers his inner Anquan Boldin, Ginn is "the guy" on our Wr corps, Hartline, Greg C and Bess are all background musicians in our offense.

IMHO, Ginn had two chances and did not convert them, he will have more chances to convert chances into TD's as the season rolls along, I believe he will make those plays, or we will be in the Dez Bryant sweepstakes in April.

 

We really shouldnt have been put in that situation in the first place.

The loss falls firstly on Defense, secondly on coaching, and thirdly on that whole 3:00 drive.

 

i give this thread a death star!
and a broken one at that

 

Watching the Ted Ginn apologists scramble for excuses is always more entertaining than watching him play...

Sorry but that catch wasn't THAT difficult.......we're just expecting the wrong guy to go up in traffic and make a play.

Ted Ginn = #2 WR

 

Nooooooooo...it's FULLY OPERATIONAL!

IT'S A TRAP!!!

 

Sooo true

 

woo...11 catches for 108 and he gets put on notice. ROFL. How dumb is that

 

Ok Enough Sort of

I read all of the Ginn stuff and I saw the whole game. With Respect to Boomer (and I do like what you normally state). Ginn was a problem last night, especially for a first round pick. I would think he should be able to get better separation and close on the ball. The first pass was one that HE SHOULD have gotten. Had he accelerated and had better field awareness he would have gotten 6. He didn’t show anything that STARS are made of. Regardless of Pennington, suspect arm strength (looked good last night). I do feel there were a lot of other issues but the ones that lost the game should be GINN and Clock management Imo.

 

Hah! Uh, okay...

• Dan Carpenter missed an important field goal earlier in the game.
• Vernon Carey gave up a sack on the final drive.
• Anthony Fasano dropped a TD pass.
• Chad Pennington appeared to be in slow motion in the 2-minute situation.
• Our first round pick (Rd1 Pick1!) from 2008 needed help to handle Dwight Freeney (Sigh -- will he ever be a lock-down, stalwart left tackle?).
• AND (and this is an easy one here) ... the defense gave up 27 points in under 15 minutes of game time!

Ah, just put them all "on notice". What's the difference?

 

- On the Carey sack, I thought he did what he usually does which is lead the guy outside and behind the QB. I thought Penny should've stepped up because he was pretty deep IMO.

- Long didn't get help on every play. We don't know that he needed help for sure either, but it's not like it hurt us a lot to have Smiley and Brown help from time to time. I don't think it was a big deal personally.

 

lmfao

Defense gets a pass because its Ginn's fault!


****ing Ginn its his fault Wilson couldn't tackle last night. Why do we even have his sorry ***? I think I saw him tampering with Carps shoes before he missed that 47 yarder!

 

I agree - I think we should judge his entire career on one play.

If Bess missed it would there be this uproar? The 2007 draft is over. We already own Ginn - we can't go back and working THIS hard to say "I told you so" is just pathetic.

The guy is productive and made a ton of great plays in that game. Get over the play in the endzone.

I don't see anyone calling Jake Long a bust for missing on a few blocks last week.

 

10-108.

Yep. Definitely a special teamer.

 

Not sure how I'm an apologist, but if that label suits your mindset then so be it. Suffice to say that those people looking to knock Ginn will always do it. There's little to no understanding of the offensive system and the types of throws he's getting. Of the 10 catches, how many came to him in a position where he could make YAC? How does none sound? Unless he's supposed to make yards after the catch on a quick out or on a knee high thrown ball in triple coverage?

But you're right, it was definitely Ginn's fault that we lost. I mean how dare he lose this game for us?

 

Because it's Ted Ginn dude, don't you get it?

 

Yeah, I was being overly critical.

 

i say we move ted ginn to linebacker and try jake long out at wr. discuss.

 

The short term reactionaries. I seem to recall Ginn making a pretty good play vs the Jets last year to get us into the playoffs. But whatever.

 

I have never bashed Ted Ginn until that last game. He should have made those TD catches and the elite WR's in the NFL would have. Any WR chosen #9 overall should be a true elite. Yea the defense crapped itself on a few plays but even with that Ginn had a chance to win the game for us and he failed.

 

GinnJr is not & will never be the go to WR for Miami
he is a very expensive special team return specialist
we need to go to free agency for relief

 

History is littered with players selected all over the first round who never lived up to their billing. Unfortunately for Ginn he had no choice over what number he was picked. No he's not an elite WR but he'd be much more appreciated in a team that played to his strengths, not in a Miami offense that generally shys away from feeding it's elite player in Ronnie Brown and therefore scares no-one, allowing teams to play man on Ginn and rolling the safety across to double up on him.

Both were difficult catches and you'd like to see him make the final one. The fact that he didn't in no way means that he cost us the game.

 

Is he? You clearly don't watch the Dolphins much if that's what you think.

As if free agency is the answer.

 

Hey, while we're at it, let's move Chad Pennington to Kicker and Carpenter to QB.

 

I hold the pathetic defense totally responsible. 27 points in less than 15 minutes!!??!!