Dolphins' Ted Ginn laments missed chances against Indianapolis

Yeah, that makes sense in the context of a pass that hits the Receiver square in his hands.

 

Two years bbq. This is his third. at the end of the year you can say so.

He's already learned routes. And he seems much better. He had almost 900 yards from the LOS last year. I expect more. I would love a better receiver, but he's right now our #1. Turner, or someone needs to step up, as it will be synergistic, allowing Ginn to get better. Right now our WR corps other than Ginn suck, and our TE corp ain't looking so hot either.

 

You can trick yourself into believing whatever you want. Facts are, Ginn was open, ball was late, he made a jump for it, the DB grabbed his jersey at the shoulder. If he was stronger, maybe the DB isnt' strong enough to redirect his hands. He's not, and we don't expect him to be.

If Penny was a little more confident, a little stronger, maybe we win the game. If Ginn was a little stronger, a little taller, maybe we win the game. Neither though is true, and we didn't win the game.

Neither deserves blame, but if you are going to blame one, you blame both.

 

I think that's a bit of stretch to say Ginn has made more catches than CC.....CC's numbers in his first two years are quite a bit better than Ginn's. In fact CC caught 7 TD passes in his rookie year. Ginn has 4 to date.....

And before someone blames it on who Ginn had at QB.......CC had Fiedler throwing to him those first couple years.

 

Read and learn.

Pennington put that second TD pass right where only Ginn could catch it - up high, away from the DB. He did his job.

Ginn knew that; he went up and had it bounce off his hands.

Pennington did his job to perfection on that play; Ginn dropped the ball.

And that's the truth...now spin it any way you want. It won't change anything.

 

i didnt say he made more catches, i said hes caught a higher PERCENTAGE of his passes, meaning when the ball is thrown to him, he catches it more often than Chambers did.

 

huh? what standard did i introduce to judge Ginn by? his clutchness? i never claimed he was clutch, i was just questioning how someone can flatly say he will never BE clutch based on one instance of him not being clutch and asking for him to be benched,

 

Probably... but not that it means anything really.

 

Penny threw a catchable ball, and Ginn didn't come down with it when he should have, this much is certain.

The pass/Penny's job was not done with perfection though (if it were, Ginn wouldn't have had to jump, and would have been hit in stride), and Ginn didn't drop it.

 

Some expectations of Ginn here don't match the coachs.

http://blogs.palmbeachpost.com/thed...o-come-up-with-td-catch-five-out-of-10-times/

 

If he was trying to help Ginn with damage control, that wasn't a lot of help.

five out of ten?

 

See, we can't even be sure we win if Ginn catches it (though there is a very very high probability that we do) because it only took them 32 seconds to go 80 yards. The Colts wouldn't have even needed to go that for to get a shot at a gamewinning FG.

 

I appreciate the honesty from the coach personally.

 

Well he said great read by Pennington, not throw by Pennington sooo...

Besides, if you thought that throw was a high percentage throw, you're kidding yourself.

 

Look the guy had a good game. He was clearly our main target all night, hes still growing and developing but i really like his progress.

 

If the receiver is good in traffic and the balls hits both hands?....yeah it should be

To Ginn, not so much. Just not ever gonna be one of his strengths.

Still, I would think even if he didn't believe it, Henning should have given him a little more of a confidence boost then that. 8 out of 10, 9 out of 10 sounds better. I guess it's no big deal, just surprised he said 5 out of 10 is all.

 

But will he ever become elite?

 

Depends on your definition. By my definition I don't think he will ever be, but most WRs never are.

 

time to produce @ contract level or move on
GinnJr is out of excuses

 

He's never made them.

 

WHAT???

He had his arms extended on that first pass. It was out of his reach. PERFECT PASSES? The first one was thrown too long. The second was thrown TOO LATE. Pennington had Ginn open, but couldn't get the ball there before the defender caught up.

You talk about Ginn apologists...I think that many of us aren't apologists, we just are sick of people making outrageous claims.

Pay no attention to the sig.

 

Even the commentators said it in the game.

 

The 1st one was thrown further than it had to be, but Teddy misjudged where he was. The 1st one was more on Ted than CP.

The 2nd one was indeed late. Catchable, but late.

 

To all the Ginn spinners! Myself being a pretty big supporter of Tedd Ginn.

There is no denying that he muffed that catch. He was in position, his shoulder was pulled back by the defender, the pass hung up just a little but he got his mitts squarely on the ball. He should have caught that ball 10 times out of 10.....

We lost the game. I don't blame Ginn totally but it can be argued to death that he is the sole reason and it's hard to win an arguement against that.

However, I was not pleased one bit with the two minute drills to end the half, and especially the drive to end the game. They ran the ball to begin with then took there sweet time getting the next snap off. They were forced to take a stupid timeout and spiked the ball when they were lined up and had the defense still shifting.

Some of these things are fine but not when your that far back from the goaline. Get inside the 20 as fast as you can while using as little of the clock as possible. If you have to take one shot to get there make it a nice deep middle route to the TE then call a timeout. Otherwise use the sidelines. If they're only giving you 7-8 yrds thats fine. Just get out of bounds asap.

Once you get inside the 20 the possibilites are many, and the pressure much less.

I know many will say man they wanted to use the last seconds of the clock so Manning could not touch the ball again but when you need 7 points you do what you can to score when you can.

That drive IMO was ran like they were down three not four.

 

I dont know what posts the people pointing out "ginn spinners" are reading, but not once has anyone said that Ginn should not have caught the ball, just that Pennington made that catch much more difficult than it had to be by throwing it both late and high.

Once more, he should have caught it, no one is denying that.

 

I agree 1000 percent that he should have caught it but that pass was far from perfect. Even the defender said the ball hung up a little which allowed him to catch up to the Wr, and we all saw him grabbing Ginn's shoulder pads and pull it back just a bit. Ginn still should have caught it though but a pass with a little more mustard on it, or one thrown more towards the goal post might have seen Ginn able to try and catch it untouched.

 

Bro please keep comments respectful.

 

Any way someone could post a gif of the end of that play to end this particular nonsense?

Ginn's arms were bent at the elbow - NOT extended.

 

I'm a ginn "defender," but on the 1st pass while Ginn's arms were extended I certainly think he had the ability to reach out more (based on memory), even if not a lot more. I am certain he misplayed the ball with his feet at least.

 

I think the first one was a case of him not being sure where he was in the endzone. Otherwise i think he catches that pass, i think he figured he was closer to the edge then he was.