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The Patriots are just plain classless and I wish them nothing but bad will.

Discussion in 'AFC East Rivals' started by Dorfdad, Oct 18, 2009.

  1. Pauly

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    As I see it there is no case to be made against someone running up the score in the first half. The pats definitely took their foot off the pedal in the second half.

    Also lets put some of the blame on the Titans
    - they had freakin' negative passing yards for the whole game! I mean seriously negative passing yards for the whole game without being sacked, WTF how do you do that??
    - And this is despite the fact that their running game was effective (193 yards on 36 attempts).
    - 5 Turnovers - what are the Pats supposed to do, give the ball back and say sorry we don't want it?
    - Wes Welker averaging 15 yrds a reception on 10 catches? Wes has hands of glue but he isn't a deep burner those stats suggest.
     
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  2. anditsgood

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    Brady was in on one drive after the half, and they mostly ran the ball

    Brady does not have the say whether or nor he plays, its a coaching decision

    Again, why is brady a prick for Being in the first drive of he second half, its a coaching decision

    sending them bad vibesis going to do as much good(bad) as you sending your team good ones.

    nail in the coffee (remind me never to take you out for a coffee)--:)


    but for real, this is football, when did idea of laying off come about its a revelatively new idea, since maybe late 90s or so. its not the offenses team to stop their offense


    if you want to be angry at anyone, be angry at the titans for quiting on fisher, or be angry at fisher for allowing the his team to quit on him


    its football. if it were so wrong to "run the score up on an opponent",then the nfl would have a rule against it,

    just a question, do you think there should be such a rule and if it were the dophins doing it to the pats/jets/bills, something tells me you wouldnt be as angry
     
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  3. anditsgood

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    were they suspose to let the titans score or punt when they were on the titans 40 with a first down?
     
  4. felly smarts

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    Dude, we didn't blow the Bills outta the water 10 minutes into the game either. This isn't college football where blowing an inferior team outta the water makes a whole lotta' difference. Bellicheat just once again proved that he and his organization are bunch of classless punks. He can't help himself. Not showing any kind of sportsmanship when he got beat by the Giants who walked into the SB and gave him a good game. Every year he shows us what a punk he is. He ran the score up on the Dolphins the year we went 1-15. He can't help himself. He just has to be a prick. His momma didn't show him enough attention I guess.
     
  5. anditsgood

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    in the first half?
     
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  6. anditsgood

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    again, at what point in the game are they suppose to allw the titans to make it a game?
     
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  7. felly smarts

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    I see what your saying but I garentee you, just about any other team would have had their bench on the feild. For 1, just to protect their starting franchise players. The other, it's a good chance to get some experiance for the one's who don't get to play. He kept his starting team out their just to be a prick. Brady should have come outta the locker room looking fresh after a shower.
     
  8. felly smarts

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    The Titans were never going to make it a game and that was as obvious as it gets. The Titans are a really bad team. I just think it was bad sportsmanship. You try to coach your kids into being a good sport and then they watch this stuff coming from teams they idle.
     
  9. anditsgood

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    1 drive to stat the second half?

    im sure i can find similar games by the dolphins int he 80s
     
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  10. anditsgood

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    but we dont allow kids to run up the score so the other kids dont cry. we are dealing with grown men here, not kids.

    most of the starters were out in the second half, after the first drive.....

    and besides, most of the scores came in teh first half and not the second......
     
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  11. unluckyluciano

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    yup.
     
  12. felly smarts

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    It was 52-0 at the end of the first half, man. You can't tell me that God himself came down and kissed Fisher on the forehead and told him to hang in there that he was going to make it all better.
     
  13. like2god

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    If Miami were to run up the score on the Pats or Jets, who here would question it? How many here would be celebrating the "beat down"?
     
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  14. felly smarts

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    I don't think Sporano would do that. If we were up 52-0 at halftime, you wouldn't see any of our starters on the feild for the second half.
     
  15. anditsgood

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    there was one drive with the starters


    the pats had 193 yards rushing

    do you want them to take three knees then punt?


    i have not seen a team quit like that for over a decade.


    be pissed the titans for not even putting up a fight from their first possession
     
  16. anditsgood

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    so they should have puled the starters in the first half?

    bro , dont let your hatred for the pats and belichick cloud your better judgement
     
  17. unluckyluciano

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    not pull them. They could have not scored the td for 45, there was plenty more time to do that. They were hurrying to the line to score. :lol: Has nothing to do with hate. Has everything to do with their actions making me hate them. It is what it is.
     
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  18. anditsgood

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    what if they had the ball first in the second half and played just the first seres and ran the ball mostly

    you do realize you are complaining about one series that pats mostly ran the ball
     
  19. anditsgood

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    like winning


    lol

    its football
     
  20. felly smarts

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    Look, I understand you sticking up for your team.... He could have done it alot sooner but for the sake of arguing I was using half time as a guide line.

    I'll just say that I agree to disagree and move on. I'm tired of arguing about something so blatant.
     
  21. unluckyluciano

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    no, like having no class. and the last series before half had 8 throws out of 9. I actually liked the patsies for a long time bro. If we didn't win, fine it wasn't going to *******s like the jets or bills. But then the 16-0 season came where they started running the score up. You can try to make my opinion irrational all you want. But it doesn't fly, not in this case.
     
  22. anditsgood

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    define sooner

    ifs the second half, then you are mad they made it 52-0 vs 45-0
     
  23. anditsgood

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    irrational?

    irrational is *****in about pats throwing it in the first half.

    the titan quit on the very first possession with thier turnover and proceded to do nothing in each consecutative possesion.

    how can you be down any points in a game and average -7 yard for the game

    for a possession is unacceptable

    for a half is an embarrassment


    for a game, someone should lose their job
     
  24. unluckyluciano

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    its not irrational at all. :lol: Nice argument though. I show you I do not have an irrational argument, I show you they through and rushed down the field up by 38 and you return with this crap.
     
  25. like2god

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    I remember the Phins/Pats Tom Brady-less game in week 3 of last year, even though we were up 28-13 heading into the 4th quarter and the Pats looked lifeless, we still ran the wildcat and ended up scoring 10 more points. Is that classless as well?
     
  26. unluckyluciano

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    up 15 in the 4th quarter vs up 45 - 0 at the half. No comparison. Not even close.
     
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  27. anditsgood

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    and it was in the first half


    if you call that running up the score there, then you must agree they should hav pulled their starters there or punted it, etc etc

    you are aware that hat was the first half right?
     
  28. anditsgood

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    so luciano, i ask again, should the pats benched the starters after being up in the first half
     
  29. unluckyluciano

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    naw I wasn't aware. You should keep repeating it. Again all I ask is that they took a knee, just ran the ball, didn't hurry to the line, hell even kicked a field goal. They didn't they threw the ball. You are trying to put words in my mouth.
     
  30. felly smarts

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    No one knew the wildcat was gonna be that successful. That was the first game we used it. And at 28-13, we have lost games to the Jets with bigger leads than that. When we walk out there and put 42 points by the second quater and then don't pull our starters, I would say that Sporano pulled a Bellicheat, and it would still be a classless act.
     
  31. like2god

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    The game was over, Cassel wasn't doing anything and the Pats were playing like they were sprinkled with "forgot how to play football" dust. It's a legitimate example. We could have stuck with a conventional ground game, instead we ran the wildcat. Is that classless?
     
  32. unluckyluciano

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    wouldn't have hurt. Again after the half they came out throwing. 6/9 coming back from the half, were throwing plays.
     
  33. Crappy Tipper

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    I wish bad will on them as well but it's for so many reasons more than this last game.
     
  34. unluckyluciano

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    its not legitimate. its not comparable. You are trying to compare 15 points up in the 4th quarter vs a 45 point lead at the half.
     
  35. like2god

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    Did you not witness the first 3 quarters of the game?

    I'm not asking whether we should have pulled the starters, I'm asking if it was classless to continue running the WC when we were up by more than 2 scores in the 4th? If the situation was reversed and the Pats had run a trick play that was money all game, I'm sure the tone would be much different, kind of like what we're seeing in this thread. Just saying...
     
  36. anditsgood

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    you wanted them to take a knee with over a minute 20 to go in the first half at their 48?
     
  37. like2god

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    It is, it's just different because it's Miami. If the Pats were running trick plays when up by more than 2 scores in the 4th I can guarantee you that we'd have "They're classless cheaters" threads popping up before the game was even over.
     
  38. unluckyluciano

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    here is what miami did the 4th quarter in the game l2g

    # 4th Quarter

    1. Miami Dolphins continues ...
    2. 1-10-MIA 38 (15:00) 23-R.Brown up the middle for 62 yards, TOUCHDOWN. direct snap to 23-Brown Penalty on NE-50-M.Vrabel, Unnecessary Roughness, offsetting. Penalty on MIA-34-R.Williams, Personal Foul, offsetting. MIA 23- Brown 4th rushing TD, team record for rushing TD in a game.
    3. 0-0-NE 2 5-D.Carpenter extra point is GOOD, Center-92-J.Denney, Holder-2-B.Fields.


    # Miami Dolphins at 14:08
    # 1-10-NE 49 (14:08) 34-R.Williams up the middle to NE 45 for 4 yards (75-V.Wilfork, 54-T.Bruschi).
    # 2-6-NE 45 (13:24) 34-R.Williams up the middle to NE 42 for 3 yards (94-T.Warren, 50-M.Vrabel).
    # 3-3-NE 42 (12:37) 23-R.Brown right end to NE 46 for -4 yards (50-M.Vrabel, 21-D.O'Neal). NE-31-B.Meriweather was injured during the play.
    # 4-7-NE 46 (12:19) 2-B.Fields punts 38 yards to NE 8, Center-92-J.Denney, fair catch by 33-K.Faulk.

    # Miami Dolphins at 10:42
    # 1-10-MIA 38 (10:42) 34-R.Williams right guard to NE 40 for 22 yards (37-R.Harrison, 27-E.Hobbs).
    # 1-10-NE 40 (9:57) 34-R.Williams left tackle to NE 31 for 9 yards (58-P.Woods, 51-J.Mayo).
    # 2-1-NE 31 (9:14) 34-R.Williams left tackle to NE 25 for 6 yards (58-P.Woods).
    # 1-10-NE 25 (8:28) 34-R.Williams right guard to NE 25 for no gain (94-T.Warren, 93-R.Seymour).
    # 2-10-NE 25 (7:42) 34-R.Williams right end to NE 22 for 3 yards (54-T.Bruschi, 37-R.Harrison).
    # 3-7-NE 22 (6:55) 34-R.Williams left guard to NE 21 for 1 yard (58-P.Woods, 75-V.Wilfork).
    # 4-6-NE 21 (6:13) 5-D.Carpenter 39 yard field goal is GOOD, Center-92-J.Denney, Holder-2-B.Fields.
    # MIA 38 NE 13 Plays: 7 Possession: 4:34


    # Miami Dolphins at 03:04
    # 1-10-NE 49 (3:04) MIA 7-Henne now at QB. 38-P.Cobbs up the middle to NE 47 for 2 yards (93-R.Seymour, 54-T.Bruschi).
    # 2-8-NE 47 (2:19) 38-P.Cobbs up the middle to NE 48 for -1 yards (96-A.Thomas, 97-J.Green).
    # Two-Minute Warning
    # 3-9-NE 48 (2:00) MIA 57-Alleman eligible. 38-P.Cobbs right tackle to NE 44 for 4 yards (36-J.Sanders).
    # 4-5-NE 44 (1:13) (Punt formation) PENALTY on MIA-2-B.Fields, Delay of Game, 5 yards, enforced at NE 44 - No Play.
    # 4-10-NE 49 (1:11) 2-B.Fields punts 38 yards to NE 11, Center-92-J.Denney, fair catch by 33-K.Faulk.
    ]


    The wildcat from what I can tell was a continuation of a drive in the 3rd quarter.
     
  39. unluckyluciano

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    no when they drove down with 1:16 left.

    # New England Patriots at 01:16
    # 1-10-TEN 49 (1:16) (Shotgun) 12-T.Brady pass short right to 83-W.Welker to TEN 40 for 9 yards (53-K.Bulluck). NE 83-Welker 9th career 100-yard game.
    # 2-1-TEN 40 (:57) (No Huddle, Shotgun) 12-T.Brady pass incomplete short right to 83-W.Welker.
    # 3-1-TEN 40 (:55) 33-K.Faulk left tackle to TEN 35 for 5 yards (53-K.Bulluck, 29-R.Mouton).
    # Timeout #1 by NE at 00:49.
    # 1-10-TEN 35 (:49) (Shotgun) 12-T.Brady pass incomplete short right to 81-R.Moss.
    # 2-10-TEN 35 (:44) (No Huddle, Shotgun) 12-T.Brady pass short right to 81-R.Moss pushed ob at TEN 23 for 12 yards (41-C.Williams).
    # 1-10-TEN 23 (:39) (No Huddle, Shotgun) 12-T.Brady pass short right to 42-B.Green-Ellis pushed ob at TEN 18 for 5 yards (29-R.Mouton).
    # 2-5-TEN 18 (:34) (No Huddle, Shotgun) 12-T.Brady pass incomplete short right to 42-B.Green-Ellis.
    # 3-5-TEN 18 (:31) (No Huddle, Shotgun) 12-T.Brady pass short middle to 88-S.Aiken to TEN 9 for 9 yards (53-K.Bulluck, 41-C.Williams).
    # Timeout #2 by NE at 00:24.
    # 1-9-TEN 9 (:24) (Shotgun) 12-T.Brady pass short right to 83-W.Welker pushed ob at TEN 5 for 4 yards (41-C.Williams).
    # Timeout #3 by NE at 00:17.
    # 2-5-TEN 5 (:17) (Shotgun) 12-T.Brady pass short right to 83-W.Welker for 5 yards, TOUCHDOWN. WATCH HIGHLIGHT
    # 3-S.Gostkowski extra point is GOOD, Center-47-J.Ingram, Holder-6-C.Hanson.
     
  40. unluckyluciano

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    no, not at all. again don't try to make my points irrational.
     

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