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Saints D gives up 6.3 yards per Wildcat

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by TheAnswer385, Oct 23, 2009.

  1. TheAnswer385

    TheAnswer385 Stay Low Run Free

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    NFL Live just mentioned this stat- Saints D gives up 6.3 yards per Wildcat.

    I'm sure it was only ran on them very few times, but it is a stat that is meaningful, so I had to post it.

    Mark Schlereth picked Miami
    Herm Edwards picked the Saints
     
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  2. calphin

    calphin deadly at 250 yards!!


    Schlereth picked Miami??? wow thats a first!!
     
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  3. GISH

    GISH ~mUST wARN oTHERS~

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    then i guess it will be a tie game, because neither of those guys is ever right about anything.
     
  4. Saint Greg

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    The eagles ran it some in the first half. They did pretty well against us with it. But I don't think they ran much more than 5 or so plays. But I don't think the Saints prepared much for it either. This week Reggie Bush was running the wildcat in practice.
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  5. TiP54

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    I don't think thats smart on NOs part.
    They shoulda let Pierre Thomas do it.
    Reggie emulating Ronnie?
    Ronnie is a power runner, while Reggie is more of a change of pace back.
     
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  6. jetssuck

    jetssuck I hear Mandich's voice...

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    I was reading on a Saints forum where Bush was gaining chunks of yardage against his own defense while in the WC.

    Which sounds good.........and I'd also be willing to bet they might just try it against us a play or two.
     
  7. TiP54

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    Jets tried that with Leon, we know how that worked out.
    And ill take Leon over Reggie.
     
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  8. dolfan7171

    dolfan7171 Well-Known Member

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    If they really give up that many yards, then Miami should do just fine since they run more often than just 5 or 6 times. Who would believe that they might break a long one on Sunday for a touchdown??
     
  9. 54Fins

    54Fins "In Gase we trust"

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    I heard that to.The Fins will average 7 on them if the opportunity(and time) presents itself.If we are behind big in the second half,it will be up to Henne to find a way.
    I have a good feeling about this game.We already know what the Colts did to us in TOP.It's time to learn from that experience. If we can stop the quick strike,we have a good chance to win.
     
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  10. DearbornDolfan

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    Read that. Also read he keeps bouncing outside rather than trying to actually run the power play. That's going to doom your D against Miami's Wildcat. Another thing to keep in mind is that, as the halftime adjustments showed in that game, you can gameplan against the Eagle's Pinocchio (yeah, that's what they call it) formation because it's a spread set and really the Eagles haven't had a whole lot of success with it.

    With Miami, you're basically facing, "We're going to shove the football so far up your *** you're going to learn every taste nuance of fresh pigskin. And then when you get over the initial experience, you're going to want to sit in a corner, rocking back and forth while hugging your knees, and muttering about how that isn't an 'in' hole."

    Can't really gameplan against that, you can only hope to limit the damage. And much better defenses than that of the Saints have failed horribly at doing so. I expect it will be a long night for that D and a very tiring one.
     
  11. jetssuck

    jetssuck I hear Mandich's voice...

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    Well that's certainly a description of our running game that you'll never hear on NFLN
     
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  12. jetssuck

    jetssuck I hear Mandich's voice...

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    Yeah I wouldn't expect them or anyone to be too successful running it against us. We see it in practice more than anyone and no other runs it with near the precision that we do.

    Was good to hear that Bush was running it with success against his own D tho....
     
  13. PhinishLine

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    *goes to church*




    TWICE.
     
  14. Dolphins1Beatles

    Dolphins1Beatles Ziggy Stardust

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    Maybe this is the game where we show the wildcat domination. If we beat the Saints with it, no one can talk.
     
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  15. DearbornDolfan

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    Nope. But it's an accurate one.
     
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  16. Dorfdad

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    OHHHHHHHHH and by teams that suck at it!!! Heres hoping we can run all over them with it...
     
  17. Califin

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    I wouldn't tempt our infamous history for such outcomes.

    After hearing all week, about nothing else except, how they're gonna deal with our Wildcat package, you can rest assured the Saints would love nothing more, than to challenge us, if not defeat us, with our own game.

    While they obviously won't be as comfortable running it, it certainly doesn't mean they can't be successful with it, nor should we simply assume, ours will be against them.

    If we happen to fall behind early, and consequently get taken out of our game, they'll be left to run Wildcat plays at leisure. Then, if we get at all sloppy with tackling, and they get any noteworthy production out of it, I don't need to explain what the Media would run with, and every highlight caption next week.
     
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    So now they are copying us running the wildcat ? cant they come up with there own plan :shifty:
     
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    What forum is that ? I wanted read up since i have some free time..
     
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  21. RickyNeverInhaled

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    that's very nice to hear. that means we will slaughter them with the wild cat! And then we will see a couple of bombs to Ginn. that will be the icing on the cake!
     
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  22. Saint Greg

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    I don't believe the eagles ran the wildcat in the second half. I don't believe they ran it in the second quarter. So I don't know what halftime adjustment you're referring to. Our biggest problem with the eagles wildcat was desean jackson using his speed to beat our LBs to the corner. So if you wanna run it up the middle all game be my guest. All we need is a couple stops and I believe our offense can put a stop to the wildcat.
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  23. Saint Greg

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    Only way I'd use the wildcat other than maybe short yardage goaline or 2pt conv is if I had no qb. I would not take the ball out of drew brees' hands. Especially against a team who practices against it every week
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  24. SICK

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    people running the WC against us have terrible success.....just sayin
     
  25. Saint Greg

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    I see this being a big brees game not running game
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  26. SICK

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    brees cant do much on the sideline if we are controlling the clock all game
     
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  27. Saint Greg

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    Manning did. I have a feeling we' ll have the ball more than 15 mins though
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  28. RickyNeverInhaled

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    i really think we'll see the yeremiah bell from last year on this game. plus sean smith and vontae davis have had enough games under their belt to let loose and get some more int's. And Will allen will be playing like he's afraid to lose his job to 2 rookie cb's. All of this equals a bad day for Bree's. his best hope is to throw to gibril wilson's side.
     
  29. Stitches

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    He only had 3 carries for 15 yards, so it must not have been that big of a problem.
     
  30. Jeffrey

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    Hey Saint Greg......they are going to "run it up the middle all day". And there is nothing that you can do.
     
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  31. TheAnswer385

    TheAnswer385 Stay Low Run Free

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    to add to the picks from the 1st post.

    Mr. out of breath so I talk really deep as my lungs collapse at the end of my sentences- Chris Berman picks us to win via ball control 24-23

    has to be the first upset I have ever seen him pick miami for.
     
  32. the 23rd

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    24/27-Miami :yes:
     
  33. PHINANALYST

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    if you are NO in practice, you need to have Bush running the WC ... why, because its RB SPEED that makes our WC work, not his power .... defenses are amazed every week by just how quick RB is .... hence both he and RW can get to the outside with impunity.

    when RB makes his decision, he is so quick ... even RW can't touch that ...

    regardless, so if you are practicing, you need to emulate RBs speed, quickness .... and that means Reggie Bush, not Pierre ....
     
  34. Saint Greg

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    The Eagles weren't a big problem. I never said the guy ran for 100 yards against us. I've said they probably only ran the wildcat 5 or so times the entire game. When they did they had some success....5ypc is pretty good.
     
  35. Saint Greg

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  36. SICK

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    we ran all over kris jenkins, david harris, bart scott.........i like our chances against the saints run defense.
     
  37. Saint Greg

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    I believe these are all the wildcat plays that have been run against the Saints this season for anyone interested.


    3-2-PHI 23 (9:38) # 10 D. Jackson lines up at Quarterback. 10-D.Jackson right end ran ob at PHI 29 for 6 yards.

    2-4-PHI 18 (7:20) #18 J. Macklin lines up at Quarterback. 36-B.Westbrook left end to PHI 25 for 7 yards (51-J.Vilma).

    2-5-PHI 45 (1:19) Direct snap to #18 who hands off to #36 36-B.Westbrook left end to PHI 45 for no gain. Lateral to 4-K.Kolb. 4-K.Kolb pass incomplete short right to 18-J.Maclin.

    1-10-PHI 27 (10:58) #10 D. Jackson lines up at Quarterback. 10-D.Jackson right end to PHI 32 for 5 yards (51-J.Vilma). Direct snap to #10.

    1-10-PHI 37 (10:03) #36 B. Westbrook lines up at Quarterback. 36-B.Westbrook up the middle to NO 47 for 16 yards (32-J.Greer).

    2-3-NO 40 (8:42) #10 D. Jackson lines up at Quarterback. 10-D.Jackson right end to NO 36 for 4 yards (55-S.Fujita).

    1-10-NO 20 (3:30) #10 D. Jackson lines up at Quarterback. 36-B.Westbrook up the middle to NO 18 for 2 yards (98-S.Ellis).

    2-4-NO 4 (1:25) #36 B. Westbrook lines up at Quarterback. 36-B.Westbrook pass incomplete short right to 43-L.Weaver.
     
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  38. Stitches

    Stitches ThePhin's Biggest Killjoy Luxury Box

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    That's not a very good sample size of WC plays IMO. Especially since their version is a bt different then ours.
     
  39. 2socks

    2socks Rebuilding Since 1973

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    Those are hybrid versions of the original. No one runs the original like we do!!!!!! I don't even consider them the "Wildcat". Kind of like 5/3 defense and 4/6 defense
     
  40. FinSane

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    in perfect conditions: Saints 28 Dolphins 17

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