Let's have some perspective

all very good points Padre. The self destruct button needs to be destroyed. I cant believe how we continue to find ways to lose. I can excuse it first qtr of the season. Sometimes you have to work out the kinks. But week 7? I think we have to sweep the division now. I dont buy that we can split with the Patriots anymore. We have to sweep them. We're pretty much on the ropes right now. We know we should destroy the Jets next week. What we dont know is if we will find another way to lose the game

 

Had to say this but my head went down. I took that loss last night harder than any this season. We have played two undeafeted teams and let them off the hook.

 

Good post Padre....

Hey...who knows...maybe theres a player who will read this thread.....

This team is a team that CAN play with any team ... ANY. And its not just that any given Sunday phrase....we wout played the Colts for 3.5 Qtrs...and we damn near beat the Saints. And yeh..we lost both games...but you know what?

Id much rather be frustrated that we didnt close out those games....than be frustrated because our organization sucks from the bottom up.

Henne's two pick sixes today....not even gonna bat an eye at them...neither of them were poor throws or decisions....the last one the receiver went in...he went out...that happens. Ginn should were the other pick 6 badge....

Im ecstatic....ECSTATIC....wanna hear it again.....ECSTATIC...that we have a QB like Chad Henne...because if theres one thing that has been shown in this league...is you dont become a Championship franchise without a upper echelon QB...you might get lucky here or there...but to stay a Championship franchise...you need a stud QB..and we have that....in my mind...NO DOUBT about it. If we had another reciever out there to match with Hartline and Camarillo and Bess....a true #1....I would have had no doubt Henne was going to march us down the field...none. Hell...if we had Olindo Mare...(because he was the best damn onsides kick guy Ive seen)...I would have wagered we would have still won that game....

I thought Vontae and Sean had great games.....and Gerbil...he played his best game yet this season....

Believe in this team....the only thing that keeps this team from 10 wins this season....is if they quit believing in themselves....

 

Honestly, we could or perhaps should be undefeated. Instead we are 2-4. Thats pathetic. This team has to learn how to finish opponents

 

The bottom line is this team is not built yet to beat playoff teams.This year 0-4 and I am not sure if the chargers are even going to be a playoff team.
We need one more productive draft to compete,needs a nose tackle,#1 receiver,playmaking ILBS,hopefully clemons will be the answer at free safety.
After watching henne even after yesterdays game I think he will be a good if not great qb in this league.(I forgot to mention Te fasno stinks)We just need to get him a #1 receiver in free agency or the draft.

 

i put it more on sparano and the coaches this season. next year we have to start the seasn with more discipline and urgency. i realize we have had an infusion of new blood but the slow starts two years in a row can no longer be tolerated going forward. next year we have to be ready to win from week one onwards

 

theres is no silver lining in this game imo. if anything, we have gotten even more exposed. We cant stop the run, cant defend the pass, cannot air it out, and dont have the common sense to run it with a Ricky Williams and instead air it out with a rookie qb. i mean, its only been 3 games and yet Henne is being hailed as the "chosen one". its one good game he had against the jets. i guess he's alright but we dont have a big time receiver. Ginn keeps getting this excuse about not being productive because Pennington cannot hit Ginn in stride. Well, Henne is hitting Ginn on the numbers and he is still dropping passes. And when he does make the reception, he avoids the contact at all costs.

 

I was very upset yesterday managed to break my sons $250 baseball bat(I guess I will be ordering a new one today).
I thought about it this morning and I guess it in the grand scheme of things it does not matter that they lost.What is the point of making the playoffs when you know your team is not good enought to really contend.Last season was a mirage because we beat a bunch of bad teams.Play the good teams in this league and you get 2-4.We make the right moves next year and we have a serious contender.Look at this year as getting the young players ready for a run in 2010.

 

Dont loose faith guys, this team never gives up. Everyone will be talking about us again soon.

 

I'm really optimistic about the team. Henne looks like a good player. There are holes on the roster. I don't believe in the "learn how to win" stuff. Once they get better players, they'll be an elite team. IF they get better players.

 

What game were you watching? We gave up both running the ball and pressing Drew Brees.

 

This has been such a rollercoaster of emotions this year.

Thanks Padre for the perspective.

 

Henne isn't a savior, but the kid is showing signs of being VERY, VERY GOOD.

as much as i rag on Ginn, this game isn't on him ... he is what he is ... he is past the 'potential' label that folks keep giving him. he is a finesse player -- it just can't be refuted, and has zero toughness -- NONE.

but none-the-less, even with the misques, this game was there to win, as a repeat of the JESTS game. if the WRs as a whole would focus on attacking the ball and making the catch -- the offense doesn't get stalled. OL did not have a good 2nd half. The JESTS were a similar defense, so not sure why we had such a hard time.

LBs and a WR are what we need, and its coming --- next year ...

 

Let's not forget the fact that we are one year removed from being a 1-15 team. Last year was great, but let's face it, we had a much easier schedule than we do this year. I've still got faith that this team will remain competitive this year and will only be stronger next season. We gave the Saints a mighty big scare yesterday, and they responded the way an elite team should, the smoked us in the 2nd half. We're a lot closer to being a top tier team, but we're not quite there yet.

Go Phins!

 

We are simply not an elite team yet, next year will be huge.

 

I'm in pain.

 

What really sucks is that every divisional rival won yesterday. Not that the misery of others can balm a wound, but it can.

 

I thought the Jets would get swallowed by the black hole. I was wrong. But Rex Ryan did in fact enjoy the Chinese buffet after the game though. I was right about one thing.

 

thats been the Dolphins motto for the past 20+ years.

 

great post but honestly ,

In my mind henne has ONE pick 6 ..

the other 2

Ginn obviously gave it to them

and at the end of the game when its 4th and 13 you call play action ?

once henne turns around a guys in his face... its the last play of the game gotta

throw it up cant take the sack , maybe if we call shotgun on 4th and long,
give him a chance , we might see a henne march down the field someday

 

The Saints had a flash in the pan cinderella season in 06 (much like ours last year) before suffering through two seasons of mediocrity with 7-9 and 8-8 in 07 and 08 respectively. Look at them now.

These things take time more often than not. We have our QB and a lot of the pieces we need for a championship run, but we're not there yet, we're not a complete team. I could list off where we need to upgrade but you already know. I trust our FO and most of our coaching staff to do what must be done, if it takes time so be it.

 

Here's my summary:

We lost to a better team, arguably the best team in the league.

That team, like the other good teams we've played, exposed our weaknesses on defense and our lack of a play maker at WR and TE.

Henne should not be judged until we get him better targets.....we asked him to duel it out in the 2nd half with Drew Brees and do so with a mediocre TE and a number one WR that would get you no more than a 5th round pick on the open market.

Don't expect Henne to light it up until we get him some help.

 

Love the thread Padre.

What people are forgetting that even with two crushing losses this year, is that Miami is better than they were last year at this time. Also where the other AFC East teams had the soft part of their schedule early now Miami has theirs late. This season is not over and if Miami does manage to win the next two they would be one game out of the division lead. Even as you said a split leaves the door open especially with the schedule the other teams have left.

Yes the loss sucked and we all have big concerns for this team but they turned it around last year and they can this year too. If they play to the level they did against the Colts and Saints against any other team I think Miami can win...so there is still hope. This team can play with anyone let's just hope the coaching kinks work their way out.

 

How on EARTH can you say that.......please explain?

Just because it takes time to assemble a good WR unit, doesn't mean you just give up and say oh ours fine as is......

And it's not the "units" that need replacing......

It's the fact that Ginn and Fasano have NO business being the number one guy on ANY NFL team.......one good play maker on both those units and we're fine.

 

I've been saying that since 1986.

 

Henning called a play action on 4th and 13. Just saying. And I've seen him do it before.

 

exactly what did you see that makes you think our D turned the corner?..the pass rush?

I saw an empty middle of the field all night..This defense is not playing well as a unit. a good first half doesnt cut it for me at home..again

They have enough leadership on that unit to either sh$# or get off the pot.The offense is making them look silly, and their younger.

back to back wins for me to prove to us that they are to be taken seriously as a unit, or i start guttin that defense up the middle.

 

My perspective says we scored those points on the ground......and left points on the field due to a lack of play making targets for Henne. Does the game winning TD pass vs the Colts or the tip drill present Ginn gave Sharper ring a bell?

Bottom line is that if you expect to beat high powered offenses, you better get you one too...the running game is great, but it needs to be complimented by the passing game, which won't happen until we upgrade Henne's targets

 

thanks for this. this makes me feel a lot better about our team. i knew we had a tough schedule but this stat makes me feel a lot better about our losses. we were pretty close to winning at least 2 or 3 of them.