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If I was the Dolphins GM

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  1. Big Red

    Big Red Long Lasting Freshness

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    My wish list would look like this.
    (Assuming we don't have a Top Ten pick which would rule out Suh, Berry, McClain, Bryant, and Spiller.)

    1st Round
    ILB Brandon Spikes from Florida
    FS Morgan Bennett from Georgia Tech
    OLB Jerry Hughes from TCU
    WR Brandon LaFell from LSU
    TE Jermaine Gresham from Oklahoma
    NT Terrence Cody from Alabama

    2nd Round
    WR Arrelious Benn from Illinois
    WR Golden Tate from Notre Dame
    NT Dan Williams from Tennessee
    NT D'Anthony Smith from Louisiana Tech
    FS T.J. Ward from Oregon
    SS Reshad Jones from Georgia
    SS DeAndre McDaniel from Clemson
    OLB A.J. Edds from Iowa
    ILB Rennie Curran from Georgia
    TE Ed Dickson from Oregon

    3rd Round
    NT Lamarr Houston from Texas
    WR Dezmon Briscoe from Kansas
    WR Austin Pettis from Boise State
    OLB Jermaine Cunningham from Florida
    ILB Daryl Washington from TCU
    ILB Perry Riley from LSU
    ILB Quan Sturdivant from North Carolina
    FS Deunta Williams from North Carolina
    TE Dennis Pitta from BYU

    4th Round
    RB Ben Tate from Auburn
    OG John Jerry from Mississippi
    SS Jeron Johnson from Boise State
    FS Myron Rolle from FSU
    SS Justin Woodall from Alabama
    ILB Micah Johnson from Kentucky
    ILB Mike McLaughlin from Boston College

    Later rounds
    RB Keith Toston from Oklahoma State
    WR Seyi Ajirotutu from Fresno State
    WR Trindon Holliday from LSU
    DE/OLB George Johnson from Rutgers
    CB Crezdon Butler from Clemson (I would move him to safety)
    ILB Josh Hull from Penn State
    OG Sergio Render from Virginia Tech
    OG Reggie Stephens from Iowa State
    OG Andrew Lewis from Oklahoma State
    OG Cord Howard from Georgia Tech
    NT Al Woods from LSU
    NT DeMarcus Granger from Oklahoma
    TE Caz Piurowski from FSU
    RB Harvey Unga from BYU
    RB LeGarrette Blount from Oregon

    In that order. What would your wish list look like?


    EDIT: Removed LSU safety Chad Jones.
     
  2. BuckeyeKing

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    Kurt Coleman in the 2nd would be awesome.
     
  3. Boomer

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    Chad Jones is awful.
     
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    Not hard to tell what part of the Country you follow :lol:
    Gresham in the first would be nice, but would prefer Dez or A-Benn
     
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    If I were the GM:

    1. call up the Broncos about Tony Scheffler this offseason, to me he is a good replacement for David Martin, or try to resign DMart, but Scheffler is a younger player.

    2. Look at Antonio Bryant down in Tampa, he was a Cowboy during the Tuna Era, he is having knee issues right now though.

    Who I'd like:

    Jerry Hughes Rd #1 JT is 35, JP 33, Roth is a RFA.
    CJ Spiller Rd #1...doubt he will be available when we select.
    Brandon Graham MO rd #2 or a late #1 pick
    Dennis Pitta..rd #3 or #2 depending, lots of experience catching the ball.
    Correy Wooten Rd #2 interesting player.

    Later rounds:

    Sean Lee ILB coming off of an ACL
    John Fletcher DE Wyoming
    Trindon Holiday WR

    It is still far to early though, but I do think Scheffler or DMart should be on the radar as our Offense is somewhat paralyzed without a Te who can split the seam and catch the ball.

    And I think a real wildcard pick could be a Guard, Thomas and Smiley have been hot and cold this year, Thomas is a youngster but still, Sparano is such an Oline afficionado that he may simply blow it up, and see who is out there in the draft.

    As for drafting a Safety...not seeing it, Bell and Wilson just signed big money contracts and Clemons playing as a rooke bespeaks how much Sparano and Bowles like him.
     
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  6. Boomer

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    LOL. I like LSU. Really do. Past FSU, I have no conviction to any team either way. But Jones is slow and he doesn't read the game well. Case in point, the deep pass that McElroy throws from his own goaline to Marquis Maze. Jones has deep centrefield responsibilities. Problem is that off the snap, McElroy is ONLY looking at Maze on Jai Eugene. No other WR goes on a deep route. With that in mind and with the way McElroy is staring down Maze, Jones SHOULD move across to that side. But he doesn't till the ball's in the air. McElroy throws a rainbow but Jones never gets close to knocking down or picking it off.

    That's POOR safety play.
     
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    ACTUALLY my post was towards the OP. Simon, you of course concentrate on the talent regardless of Alma Mater or affiliation :up:
    Thanks for the run down on Jones though.
    I will keep that in mind next time I watch him play :hi5:
     
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    Yeah, Chad Jones looked lost at times during that Alabama game. Boom, what do you think of Peterson from LSU?
     
  9. Boomer

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    Check out my thread on him XXX from 6 weeks or so ago.
     
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    I was not impressed with Coleman last season but I admit I haven't watched him much this season. I recorded the Ohio St / Penn St game so I'll check him out.
     
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    That's disappointing. What I have seen of him he looked good. Nothing spectacular but he made a few plays and no major mistakes. The main reason I had him listed is because of our need at safety and he is rated so high but I'll take Boomer's word over those draft sites. :up: Jones is off my list.
     
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    I don't know about Scheffler but I like Antonio Bryant. Assuming the knee would no longer be a problem of course.

    You mean Brandon Graham from Michigan right? I'm watching the Purdue game now. He looks good. From what I've read he won't make it to the 2nd round. I like Pitta too. However I'm not sure he's worth one of our draft picks this year. Would he be an upgrade over Haynos? Not a fan of Wooten but haven't seen much of him this season. How did he look against Iowa?

    I'm not familiar with Fletcher. Looks like he's got nice size. I'll try and check him out. Trindon Holiday is great but he doesn't fit the Parcells/Ireland bigger is better mold. Sean Lee in the later rounds? Hmmm...

    Love Yeremiah Bell but Gibril Wilson has been a disappointment. Nobody is going to confuse Wilson with Ed Reed anytime soon. If we can get a safety with that potential then I don't doubt we would do it and cut our losses with Wilson.
     
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    Graham from Michigani, and Wooten had a sack strip in the endzone that produced the game winning TD and knocked Iowa's Qb out of the game with a bum ankle.

    Now THAT is an impact defensive play.

    Pitta, to me, fits that pass catching Te mold we need.


    Ireland is a sucker for those Mtn West players and I was thinking of Holiday for kick return duties/4th Wr sort of role.

    I don't, to me Wilson's play has improved greatly, and he is a backup in place in case Bell is injured.

    And if anyone, Bell has not shown that all around game as of yet, could be he is learning the D out on the field, and maybe he has new coverage duties.

    The one thing I am not wrapping my head around is "where" are the positions (outside of Wr) where we have glaring and obvious needs?

    Even OLB, Wake and Roth, Cb we are stacked, Dline, Oline, Qb.

    to me NT, Te and Wr are the big holes, unless we do not resign Ronnie Brown..which I am beginning to wonder about the truth be told.
     
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    Wow. I didn't realize but now that you mention it. That's funny. :lol:

    I live over on the West Coast now so I do like a lot of players from:
    USC - Mays, Griffen, McCoy, and Williams
    Oregon - Dickson, Ward, and Blount
    Cal - Best, Thompson, and Alualu
    BYU - Pitta, Hall, and Unga

    However I'm not sure we'll have a shot at Mays. I prefer Hughes to Griffen, Gresham to McCoy, and LaFell to Williams. Dickson and Blount are on my list and I haven't seen enough of Ward. Best and Thompson aren't needs and I prefer Smith to Alualu. I already commented on Pitta, Hall isn't a need, and I actually forgot about Unga. I'm going to add him to the list. However he is a junior and I'm not sure how likely he is to declare.

    UCLA and Hawaii don't have much to offer this year. Arizona is a young team. Other teams have great players but we don't have a need. Just the way the cookie crumbles I guess. Too funny.
     
  15. ToddsPhins

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    We can't have a pass rusher as a 1st round possibility and not have Derrick Morgan on the list, who IMO is as much of a defensive impact player as McCoy and Berry. Gotta put Ricky Sapp and JPP on that list, too, until they show us otherwise.

    Cant have Spikes w/o listing McClain, who IMO is more what our defense needs.

    Very badly want Dennis Pitta if we cant get Gresham or a TE in FA. Something about smart, pass catching TE's who know how to get open seem to really excel in the NFL.

    Even though we have Vontae and Sean, I would love to have Javier Arenas on this team.... would absolutely love it!! This is the kind of kid who will only make us better. If he lasts until the 3rd, I'd take him with an enormous...... grin. :lol:

    I'm not looking for a Safety yet until our young secondary has a chance to develop and gel.... but I do like a lot: DeAndre McDaniel (my Tigers), TJ Ward (Ducks).

    For offensive playmakers: just spitballing.... Eric Decker (Minn), Demaryius Thomas (GTech), Andre Roberts (Citadel), Jacoby Ford (Clemson), Noel Devine (WVU), Brandon James (UF), Taylor Price (Ohio), Brandon Banks (Kansas St), Jeremy Williams (Tulane), Carlton Mitchell if declares(USF), Frantrell Forrest (UAB), Riley Cooper (UF), Jordan Shippley, Emmanual Sanders (SMU), TJ Williams (Valdosta St), Chris Carter (UC Davis), Ronald Johnson (USC), Antonio Brown (Cent Mich).

    There are a also a handful of big unrecognized DTs out there, too.
    There's a big DT for UNC not named Austin who could make for a nice clogger.
     
  16. alen1

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    UCLA has Brian Price to offer to NFL teams. :)
     
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    D'Anthony Smith looks more like an UT to me but we could be seeing things differently.
     
  18. Big Red

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    Nice. :up:

    Maybe you're right about Pitta. I'll add him to the 3rd round but I wouldn't draft him in the 2nd.

    Yeah I figured that's what you were thinking of for Holliday but I thought he was considered more of a 4th or 5th round pick. Now that I look at it he might be there in the 6th and I would absolutely draft him if he was still on the board. Good call. I'll add him to the list. Isn't there a rule somewhere we must always have a guy named Holliday on our team? :yes:

    Bell is a stud. Sorry about the confusion. When I say cut our losses with Wilson I don't mean cut him. I mean relegate him to backup duties like you said or the nickel and dime packages. For example if we were somehow able to draft Eric Berry then our starting safeties would be Bell and Berry. Wilson would take on a new role for a season or two and then released.

    Inside linebacker. Big time need for us. Crowder is a keeper. You need a thumper like him. However his health is starting to become more of an issue. Ayodele is solid but not spectacular. Torbor is a good backup and special teams player. Doing a great job filling in for Crowder right now. However we need a playmaker at that position.

    I wouldn't be surprised if we double up on the ILB position in next year's draft. Go for our playmaker in the 1st or 2nd round and take a flyer on another thumper in the later rounds.

    We have needs at OLB too. JT might retire after this season. I'm not sold on Roth. That leaves Wake, Porter, and Anderson. A guy like Hughes or Edds would be huge for us.

    I agree that we are stacked at QB and DE. However you can always use depth on your o-line.

    Actually nose tackle is not that big a hole if we extend Ferguson and Soliai pans out. However there are a ton of talented big men coming out this year. I would be surprised if we passed up all of them.

    Personally I see a pass-catching TE as a luxury. The cherry on top after the rest of your team is already built. You can always use a wideout, running back, or fullback the way you would use that tight end.

    And of course wideout is another big need for us. We only need one. Just a really really good one.
     
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    I wouldn't mind seeing
    1. Rolando McClain
    2. Eric Decker (if he can show that he's healthy)
    3. Javier Arenas (Nickle, KR, PR, tough as nails supreme football player with major IT factor.)
    4. Dennis Pitta (even if we need to trade picks to get him)
    5. Playmaking WR: Taylor Price/Andre Roberts
     
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    Javier Arenas could be a bad bad man in zone based scheme but I'm not sold on him playing man yet.
     
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    I actually disagree, but that's just my 2 cents. LOL. IMO, in order to be able to effectively attack any area of the field you have to be a threat to all aspects of the field. A pass catching TE does SO much for opening up the rest of an offense IMO and is an invaluable commodity. Most great teams have tremendous TEs who can catch.

    I also feel we need 2 WR, not just 1.
    1 is a big, physical, reliable, effective, go-to target that Henne can depend on. Decker, LaFell, Riley Cooper??, Jeremy Williams (Tulane), Frantrell Forrest UAB???
    2nd is an upgrade over Bess with more speed and explosiveness (Mardy Gilyard, Taylor Price, Andre Roberts, Shippley).

    (We already have our possession WR's in Cam and Hart).
     
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    Any specific thoughts on Lafell? I've seen parts of LSU games this year, but quite frankly I've seen very little of him. He has the size, but doesn't look as powerfull as Bryant or Benn to me. He's not the fastest guy in the world- not slow either- but I wanted to see some explosiveness out of him- I've seen comparisons to Bowe and I'd like to see it. When I saw Bowe the thought was- yup, this dude is good. Same for Nicks, but more so Bowe. It was the size and explosion out of cuts, quickness. His hands have been called into question in the pros, but my recollection was good hands at LSU and great hands at the Senior Bowl. I want to see similar qualities out of Lafell before I'd think yeah, take him around #20.

    Sean Lee- he looked good in the limited time that I've seen him. Not the biggest guy in the world, but a great tackler and looks like he could cover TE's pretty well, something that we could use for sure. Maybe a thumper at MLB paired with a guy like Lee would work well. Then again, maybe we take Spikes or McLain, who knows. If as rumored Lee is better than Pozlunski I'd roll with that 2nd or 3rd round.

    This WR out of Syracuse, Williams. I'm curious to see where he goes in the draft. He's got the production and measurables, but the fact of the matter is that I haven't seen him play. I wonder to what extent his baggage will rule the day come draft time. Form what I've read he could be an intreresting risk.

    Eric Decker- hard not to like him, he was on TV a few times in the last several weeks. But is he a fit for us? He doesn't look like an NFL #1 to me- not to say he couldn't be very effective. But if we took him he's added to the glut of Bess, Hartline, Camarillo, Turner. I don't see it.

    The template for what we need at WR, at least in my mind, is Andre Johnson, which obviously ain't gonna happen. Bowe would have solved a lot of headaches. Williams from USC looks like he runs good routes and catches well. Bryant most likely will not be available. That leaves Lafell and Benn. The defense needs help, but still I wonder if Spikes would be a reach assuming we pick around #20, and McClain sure looks good and would no doubt receive consideration. But the reality is that we are sucking wind-obviously- at WR and it's holding everything back on offense. A classic dire need. If Bryant is gone and we pass on Benn- then what? That guy from Georgia Tech? In a perfect world there will be a small school guy like Miles Austin or Marquez Colston available mid to late draft. Size, strength, track speed, good hands. Hindsite is 20/20, but I've been intrigued by Austin for a couple of years now, interesting to see him break out recently. He fits the profile of the guys I mentioned earlier. How those two slipped so far I don't know- for example both clearly have more explosion that Pat Turner taken in the 3rd- granted he came from a big time program. If we pass on Benn I truly hope we can find a guy who fits what I think is the profile- Bowe, Nicks, Austin, Colston, Brandon Marshall taken in the 4th I believe. One of those guys would be heaven sent.
     
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    Decker is 6'3, 215, and can potentially run a sub 4.5 forty. He's an absolute beast on the field and has the mental intangibles and serious love for the game/ competition to the nth degree. He can catch everything, runs great routes, makes big plays, and is a serious, legitimate redzone threat b/c of his size, strength, athleticism, and jumpball advantage. Not sure how that is like anyone on our current squad. LOL. We need clutch guys who can score.... and Decker can be just that. IMO if he's available in the 2nd, we take him. He's an immediate upgrade to anyone we have and we can still add an explosive, homerun threat later on.

    LaFell is 6'3, 206 and is no faster than Decker. Not saying Decker is as good as LaFell, but don't get confused with Decker b/c of his skin color. :lol:

    Benn is also not much bigger (although he is shorter shorter) or faster than Decker, and he also hasn't shown much in the route running department b/c of how he's used.... correct me if I'm wrong. If Henne had the choice between Decker and Benn, my gut tells me it would be Decker OR <Eric Decker, the Jet Pecker Wrecker as he would be nicknamed if we drafted him>. :chuckle:
     
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    I didn't realize that Decker was that big and fast. That changes things. I saw him a few weeks ago-Purdue?- and he was dominating. I wonder how bad the injury was.

    It's been frustrating trying to get a really good look at Benn and Lafell, especially Lafell. Watching Illinois on offense- I just feel sorry for Benn. But from what I have seen the tools are all there. Size and speed are nearly ideal, looks very quick out of breaks to me. Showed great determination and nose for the endzone on a running play. They were trying to get him invloved, that offense is pathetic. Zook and Juice are stifling him. I've seen LSU play- waiting, waiting to see Lafell in action and just not much to see. My fault for not watching the whole games. You have me intrigued by Decker now- I thought that he was a 6-0, 200 lb, 4.6 guy. I'd like to see more film.
     
  25. ssmiami

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    Did'nt we trade our 5th round pick for Thigpen QB
     
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    He's been playing through injury this year, so I think that might have a bit to do with it. His size is surprising though.

    Benn might make for a nice project if he can continue developing. I'm always a little hesitant about project guys at WR, but our Gurus who have seen him play more often than me could probably give a better idea about his LTI.
     
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    yeah... something like that, but we have other picks that we can use to play with. LOL.
     
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    I've already decided who i want in the 1st round (crazy i know this early in the process). Assuming we are picking around 16th selection , any one of Gresham TE, Bryant WR, McClain ILB, Spikes ILB, Spiller RB, When i say who i want i should say any one this group would make me very happy.
     
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    I don't look at Benn as a project. I look at him as an immediate deep threat who can actually catch the ball and make things happen after the catch. If I recall he had pretty good stats last year and dude can run, no doubt. Illinois has been on TV a few times down here- I think against Michigan the Illinois home crowd roundly bood the offense, and deservedly so. Just strikingly boring, unimaginative, an ineffective. He's a prisoner in that offense. Michigan had a good DE, Brandon Hughes I think. Reminded me of Lamar Woodley and could be an interesting OLB convert. Strength, motor, wheels, all of that. And a Guard for Illinois- Asamoa?- looked pretty good. Good size and seemsed to get good push in the run game and looked good in pass pro. Didn't see all that much of him but I liked what I saw.
     
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    Yeah, but I thought that a reported 5th is on the way for Ndukwe and Alleman.
     
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    Not a fan of Sapp. Morgan is great but I feel Hughes is better. A rare talent. Maybe I'll change my mind if he declares but as of today I'd take Gresham or Cody instead of Morgan. Haven't seen JPP.

    McClain is a Top Ten pick. The Dolphins won't have a Top Ten pick. If and when Berry, Bradford, Bryant, and McClain declare then Spikes will drop out of the Top Ten. Not to mention McCoy Dunlap, Carter, Haden, Bulaga, and Dwyer. I'm beginning to believe that Spikes will be there for us. Assuming we don't make the playoffs of course.

    I'm with you. Love Javier Arenas! So of course he'll never make to the 3rd round right?

    I haven't seen enough of Ward. Good to know you like him. I'll focus in on him next time I watch Oregon.

    That's a lot offensive playmakers. I haven't seen them play but I've heard good things about Eric Decker, Demaryius Thomas, and Jeremy Williams.

    I like Cam Thomas' size. He didn't jump out at me when I watched North Carolina but there are so many guys to watch on that defense I'm not surprised. Nice find. :up:
     
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    I can see Arenas in the third if he doesnt' run so well at the Combine. He's not exceptionally large either.
     
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    Good call. Haven't really noticed him. Is he one of your favorites?

    D'Anthony Smith looks like a bad man and he can play NT for me anytime. :yes:
     
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    Bess is pretty damn good. If you consider him our 4th wideout which I do it would be hard to find a guy that far down on the depth chart who is better. Camarillo and Hartline can play more than just the slot. I still haven't given up on Patrick Turner. Plus I would keep Ginn as a return man and deep threat which would force us to make a difficult decision if and when we add another wideout to the mix. Really if we just added a guy like Dez Bryant our wideout corps would be fantastic.

    As far as the tight end goes I certainly understand the value of a Gates, Gonzalez, or Witten. However I don't consider them essential to winning a Super Bowl which is ultimately the goal for every NFL team. The Giants won it with Boss. You telling me Fasano couldn't make all the same plays that Boss made? The Steelers won it with Heath Miller. The Pats won it with Daniel Graham and Rod Rutledge. The Bucs won it with Ken Dilger. The Rams did it with Roland Williams.

    Look at from the flip side. The Chargers haven't won the Super Bowl even though they have Gates. The Cowboys haven't won it with Witten. The Chiefs never won a Super Bowl with Gonzalez. The Browns didn't win it with Winslow. The Ravens never won it with Heap. The Falcons never won it with Crumpler.

    A slot receiver can catch passes down the seam. A running back or fullback can catch passes that would otherwise go to a tight end. Plus Fasano and Haynos are more than capable enough of making an occasional play or two.

    That being said I wouldn't pass up Jermaine Gresham if Spikes, Bennett, LaFell, and Hughes were off the board.
     
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    Haven't seen enough of him to determine if he's a favorite.
     
  36. Big Red

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    Nice post.

    I don't believe I have studied LaFell to the point that you have. If he lacks explosion like you say then its possible we already have a guy like that on our roster in Patrick Turner. The only thing that I have noticed with LaFell is he knows how to find the endzone and makes plays. Of course that would also describe Patrick Turner at USC.

    Even though he's not having a great season I love Benn. That guy is a stud. Golden Tate is also a playmaker. However we don't know if either of them is going to declare. I could be way off about believing that either of them will make it to the 2nd round. By the time draft rolls around they might be entrenched as 1st round picks. For some reason the wideout position is the hardest to evaluate. I'm not sure why but so many guys who were stars in college just don't cut it in the NFL. Its strange.

    I know Boomer is a fan of Mike Williams. That's enough to make me curious.

    Interesting comments about Decker. What is the consensus? Is he a #1 wideout? I know ToddsPhins is a fan.

    The bust rate among USC wideouts is staggering. Its silly to hold it against Damian Williams. However I still do.

    I'm not sold on Sean Lee but I'll tell you what his teammate Josh Hull had a hell of a game against Ohio State. Not only as the starting middle linebacker but also on special teams. In fact I'd draft Hull in the later rounds before I'd draft Lee because I don't believe one is head and shoulders above the other.

    SIDE NOTE: The jury is still out on Penn State's other linebacker Navarro Bowman. I have to say I'm not a big fan but there must be some reason why he is so highly regarded.

    I'm confused by your comments about Spikes being a reach at 20. Some people would be surprised if he was still on the board at 20. Are you saying you don't believe Spikes is that good?

    For the record there's no way McClain gets out of the Top Ten in my opinion.

    Also to follow up on Kurt Coleman from an earlier post. I'm still not impressed. He is not an impact player. Don't see him as an upgrade to Bell, Wilson, Culver, or Clemons.
     
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    - I disagree, LaFell is explosive IMO. My biggest problem with him (and Tolliver) is that he tends to drop catchable balls frequently (at least 1 every 2 games) much like Bowe. And I don't mean catchable like Ginn had on 4th and 15, but more like what he had against the Saints (not the INT one).

    - I like Decker as a player, and think he can play any position (X, Y, or Z), but I don't at all think he is the type of #1 this team's fans are looking for.

    - I love Sean Lee. With that said I would never take him before rd 3. He's had his share of injury issues, and like most PSU LBs his strength development is questionable. He has the body to make it work, and is smart as hell, but I don't see him lighting it up in year 1. I don't know that Josh Hull is a SR. He has been impressive, but he is not Sean Lee good....yet.

    - Bowman is amazing. He can do everything you would want a 4-3 LB to do. I can't see him making it in our defense though given his size. He's smart, fast, and explosive though.

    - I'd be ecstatic with Spikes or McClain if we picked around 15.
     
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    But Bess is our leading WR, and as a such he ranks a putrid 85th in the NFL in receiving yards.... and his average of 7.3 YPC ranks him a sack-punching 271st, and that's even including TE's and RB's. Plus the enzone is like cryptonite to him, evidenced by the fact that after he actually scored, his hands have withered to stone. LOL. If you want to punt on 3rd down, he's now the guy to have on the field. :lol:

    IMO, Keeping Ginn as a return guy is a bad idea b/c you're using a sorely needed WR roster spot for a special teams guy.... to go along with the 1st round salary we'll be paying him. There are a lot of college guys who can return kicks but will be more reliable in the passing game than twinkle-toes Teddy.... and at less cost.

    ** Teddy should be doing commercials for teenage abstinence b/c he's a great role model for utterly refraining from contact...... Ginn hears more footsteps than the Manhattan subway......

    If the Big Bad Wolf could make the 3 little pigs houses out of any material he wanted, he'd make em outa Ginn!
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    I agree with you on this, Stitch.... but I also feel that he's a major upgrade to anyone we have now, so I wouldn't NOT take him even though he probably won't be the prototypical #1.

    IMO We need a serious, reliable, #2 who can be a threat in the redzone as well as consistently help move the chains.... for which I think Decker could be perfect. Then we can at least still draft some playmakers following as well as add a true TE threat.

    We might might not have a true #1, but we'd still be tremendously improved and potentially only 1 player away from being a firepower. Besides, who knows if there will be any legitimate #1's in this draft. I see a lot of 2's, but very few #1's unless a small school guy sneaks into the pack out of the mid rounds. If that's the case, I'd almost rather go after a more polished #2 like Decker than try to force a less polished guy into the #1 role. Just a thought. ?????

    Agree with you about McClain. IMO, once JT and JP are gone, we'll need a serious leader to take charge of and successfully QB this young, talented defense much like Lewis did in Baltimore. To me, finding this guy should be a high priority, and I don't see too many that come along like McClain in this regards.
     
  40. GridIronKing34

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    Tell us how you really feel?
     

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