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  1. Big Red

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    I agree. :up:

    Jerry Hughes is listed at 6-2 rounded up from 6-1 3/4.

    I believe Norwood would play ILB in our 34 defense. He did an excellent job playing the spy position against Tebow in the Florida game.

    I can't believe Smiley is injured again. We were just talking about that last week.

    I hope not. Especially with the emergence of Kory Sperry.

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    I haven't seen enough of Gilyard but what little I have seen I liked. You're right about him having the makeup.

    Aside from Sapp that's a good list.
     
  2. ckparrothead

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    A couple of things...

    1. Jerry Hughes might indeed not be big enough for their tastes at the position. But I'm comfortable saying that 6'2" is like a bare minimum whereas 6'1" would probably be off the list. And besides, Hughes is just THAT GOOD. To me, Graham is not necessarily.

    2. 3 catches for 30 yards and a TD does not mean we've found an impact TE along the lines of a Dallas Clark, Kellen Winslow, Antonio Gates, Tony Gonzalez, Jeremy Shockey...or even a Dustin Keller. I think it's downright silly after one game with 3 catches to suggest that we've found one of those types of guys to where a Jermaine Gresham is off the list.

    3. "The makeup"...that was the term I was looking for. Yeah I think Gilyard's the only of the highly rated guys that has "the makeup"...though I have plenty of work to do on some of the others.

    4. I don't want to give the impression that I like Ricky Sapp. I'm just saying I can't say for certain that they dislike him.
     
  3. ckparrothead

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    You mean an outside linebacker?

    They're not drafting a guy in the first round to be a specialist. And if you mean outside linebacker then I'm just not seeing that in Derrick Morgan's future.
     
  4. ckparrothead

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    If by "cerebral" you mean "hesitant" then no they wouldn't want a guy out there that is slow on the uptake. However if by "cerebral" you mean he plays really smart football then a Tony Sparano team can't possibly have enough guys that are too "cerebral". They value intelligence...highly.
     
  5. adamprez2003

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    no i meant intelligent. he plays an exceptionally intelligent game IMO but my point was that he seemed to lack a bit of the nastiness or brutish physicality McClain displays a bit more of. Weatherspoon, from what Ive seen, is happy enough just to tackle you and stop your progress. McClain has a bit of the bully in him where he likes to lay a "stick" on you....a highlight hit so to speak
     
  6. jim1

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    Please explain more about Gilyard. I've seen parts of a couple of Cincinnatti games, a little of their QB. But I have seen next to nothing of Gilyard.
     
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  7. ckparrothead

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    You can't judge a receiver by "parts" of a game, especially if during those "parts" he just doesn't have the ball thrown his way.

    What Mardy Gilyard has is genuine fight and RAC ability, combined with good hands (cradles the over-the-shoulder catch, catches high balls) and some speed. He's not the biggest guy, not small either, but he plays with a toughness that we could only dream about from Ted Ginn. And, on top of that, he seems like a genuinely good human...which, at this point, guys like Dez Bryant, Mike Williams, and I still insist Damian Williams...have some question marks when it comes to that.

    He's transitioned from being an excellent return man to being a dominant receiver. The Cincinnati QB situation was a mess last year. Tony Pike came out of literally nowhere (literally 5th string), had a fantastic season, and was following up with another fantastic season. He goes down and not only does the unknown Zach Collaros thrive, he plays so well that when Tony Pike gets healthy, the coaches continue to start Collaros. So you've got a plug and play QB system, and who is there all the while, averaging 92 yards receiving per game over a 24 game period? Mardy Gilyard. He's scored at least one touchdown (be it punt return, kick return or reception) in 17 of 24 games in 2008 & 2009. He's averaged 27.6 yards per kick return (2 TDs) the last two years, and he's averaging 14.0 yards per punt return (1 TD) this his first year performing that role.

    I really wish the guy were bigger...definitely. He's by no means a perfect prospect. But he does play with the toughness of someone much bigger.

    If you think Ted Ginn is not long for this team, and I'm just about ready to toss him...then Mardy Gilyard IMO steps in and fills the same role.
     
  8. ckparrothead

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    Mardy cares about the kids. ;)

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vNyB3IkKd7Q"]YouTube- Mardy Gilyard crashes into kid, then hugs him[/ame]
     
  9. ckparrothead

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    Here, I found a better video for you to explain Mardy Gilyard. I think this game really gives a look at him in his good moments and his bad. You just have to look at his hand, head and foot control, his ability with the ball in his hands to always make that first guy miss. Imagine if Davone Bess was an inch taller, had longer arms, and 4.45 as opposed to 4.55 type speed. This is last year's Virginia Tech D btw, very good defense.

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbnbSIABYMk"]YouTube- Mardy Gilyard vs. Virginia Tech[/ame]
     
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  10. ssmiami

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    What do our guru's think of Austin Lane DE or a posable OLB from Murray State
     
  11. ckparrothead

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    More on the "good human being" angle...

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRt4yvTALnQ"]YouTube- From The Streets To Stardom: Mardy Gilyard[/ame]
     
  12. texasPHINSfan

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    hey ck, what do you think about Aaron Hernandez or Donald Buckram? i'm not speaking for first-round pick (obviously), just draft prospects in general. Hernandez is someone i think we could really use, the dude is a playmaker.

    donald buckram - i don't know if he's even going to be drafted, but the dude is electric. very very small, but guys like sproles and welker have shown us that small guys can play too. :)
     
  13. ckparrothead

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    First off Welker's not really all that small, and he's a WR beside. Secondly, I'm not sure whether or not I see Hernandez coming out this year. If he does then yeah I think he's one to look at in the early rounds. Lastly, I'm not sure Buckram has the speed that lets me forget about his lack of size. And I think his listings might be exaggerated, size-wise.
     
  14. jim1

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    He looks good. He has the feel of a gamer- really soft hands, catches naturally, fights for yards, moves well. He doesn't strike me as being tremendously explosive but at first glance, for what it's worth, I'd take him over any WR that the Dolphins currently have. He looks to me like someone that the Dolphins would seriously consider in the 2nd round. I still think that we need a physical presence at the position as well as speed- if Pat Turner is having problems getting off the line I doubt that he's our future physical presence. Even though we doubled down on WRs in the draft last year, it wouldn't surprise me to see us get 2 again this year, especially if free agency is a bust for us at the position.

    You mentioned Bess- I doubt that he could run a 4.55- he brings other attributes to the table, but dude is s-l-o-w. The whole group is so blah and average, it'll be interesting to see how it shakes out. Camarillo is a gamer, not that I'm all that crazy about him. For all the fan love that Bess gets, I'd call him far from a sure thing to make the roster next year. Hartline still has a lot to prove and Turner hasn't done anything yet. Ginn- I don't even want to go there. Getting 2 WRs in the first 3 or 4 rounds wouldn't bother me at all.

    I'm curious to your assessment of Dudley Guice as things stand now- I remember you beiing a fan last year and after seeing a bit of tape I was really impressed. Size, speed, soft hands, and he just had the look to me in terms of how he moved and went about his business catching the ball. My question is, why do you think that he didn't make it? And furthermore, as crappy as our receivers are why wouldn't we bring him in for a look? I know that there are a lot of guys out there to choose from but Guice, at least to me, looked impressive.
     
  15. ckparrothead

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    As far as speed goes, I think that Bess is probably more like a 4.60 kind of guy. That's pretty slow, especially for a smaller WR. Gilyard is not only taller at 6'0" (remember, length = vertical speed) but he's probably also a 0.10-0.15 faster in terms of top gear. I don't know if I'd say that he's much faster than that, though. I'd put Gilyard into the 4.45 to 4.50 range. That can still be very much a deep threat, remember. If the guy is a hard runner, and he's a well-rounded player, that's enough to be a deep threat. Hartline is a deep threat, and he never ran below a 4.50 in the 40.

    I think if you try and wait until the 2nd round for a Mardy Gilyard, depending on his timing and measurements, then you'll probably be out of luck.

    As for Dudley Guice...sometimes guys get it and sometimes they don't. I liked three guys right along side each other in that area, and they were (in no particular order) Dudley Guice, Johnny Knox, and Dominique Edison. Knox has been fantastic in Chicago. Edison is still on roster in Tennessee after impressing them in the final preseason game against Green Bay with 5 catches for 90 yards and 2 TDs. Those percentages sound about right, to me. Couldn't ask for much better, targeting late round/UDFA guys at that position.
     
  16. jim1

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    Bess clocked in at 4.69:

    http://cardinalsfan.squarespace.com...bine-wide-receivers-40-yard-dash-results.html

    Knox would have worked out well, such is life. Say we draft #20- would you pull the trigger on Gilyard there? I know that it depends on who's there, but 20 seems kind of high for him. And if Spikes, MClain and Cody are on the board who would you take? The weight thing with Cody worries me a bit, I'd like to see that big guy from Baylor play. I'm also kind of intrigued by Dan Williams of UT.
     
  17. ckparrothead

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    My source says 4.64 at the Combine and 4.60 at his Pro Day.

    As for #20, I can't answer that unless I know who else is there and I also know a lot more about these prospects via All Star games, Combine, etc.

    I'm personally not taking Cody. I think he's a fat guy that likes to be fat and he'll never play in this system.

    As for Spikes, I take Spikes any day. I tend to doubt he'll even make it that far down the board.

    McClain, we'll talk when/if he decides to come out.
     
  18. Big Red

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    Agreed.

    I don't know about that. Graham is a playmaker. However your point is taken. Griffen, Wootton, Pierre-Paul, Kindle, Morgan, Romeus, and Edds all have the size the triumvirate covet. It would be surprising if they passed up one of them for Graham.

    Its just that I was very high on Sperry last April. I couldn't believe we traded away our second 7th round pick instead of drafting him. Now that he's on our roster and actually producing I'm a happy man. Don't forget Antonio Gates was an undrafted free agent. :yes:

    Cool. :up:
     
  19. Big Red

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    Love Dan Williams! :up:
     
  20. BuckeyeKing

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    Does Miami consider Spiller if he is there?
     
  21. ckparrothead

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    Depends what they do with Ronnie Brown. If Ronnie is gone, then absolutely. But Spiller will go above where Miami selects, IMO.
     
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    Where do you project him to go? I mean are remaining games aren't gimmies and without Brown it becomes that much tougher. Hell we might win 2 more games the rest of the way. I'm hoping Ricky goes vintage but I wont hold my breath on that.

    Is Spiller a top 10 pick?
     
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    Isn't he just a fun player to watch.
     
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    I don't see Norwood playing ILB in any system, given that he doesn't play run at all well.
     
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    I think they consider Jonathan Dwyer if he's there.
     
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  26. jim1

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    I don't know, WR is probably the least likely position that would cause me to watch a 3 hour game to focus in on one guy. It's the camera angles and the fact that a WR's major contributions come down to a handful of plays. And ideally I'd much rather watch the interplay of Wrs and DBs live than on TV.

    So for what it's worth, as always, Gilyard strikes me as a 2nd round kind of guy. Maybe late first, he seems like the kind of player that Ozzie Newsome would be interested in- and Ozzie passed up Nicks for Oher last year, so maybe a WR is due. The clip you provided was really good in that it showed his drops as well as catches. Through all of the plays, good and bad, I really like his hands and how he catches the ball- softly, proper form, just doing it the right way. Ted Ginn should do it half as well. And the field awareness- you nailed that one. He seems to do the little things well, things that win games as opposed to losing them. Paging Mr. Ginn....

    What I'm not crazy about is his explosiveness- it doesn't jump out at you. But he has an aura of a contributor and a safe pick- a guy that will probably outperform some WRs taken ahead of him. In short, he seems to do things the right way. A couple of things I'm not crazy about- him flunking out of school and his mouth full of gold teeth just rubs me the wrong way- makes him look like a gang banger. But at the end of the day I look at him and think of a slightly less explosive version of Santonio Holmes, who has done well for the Steelers

    I still look to Benn, Bryant, and Demaryius Thomas for that physicality that our WR unit so desperately needs. In a perfect world Gilyard and one of those guys would be great. But there's always an opportunity cost- every time I think of Brandon Spikes I see him him knocking Andre Smith on his butt last year and that fantastic interception that he had a few weeks ago. A thumper with tools, speed and coverage ability, which is nice- and would fit very well on the Dolphins. But it's still tough for me to watch a Dolphins game and not see the crying need for a physically dominant, go-to #1 WR, so that's where I'll still cast my vote, if the right guy is available.

    p.s. Fins/Panthers game was last night. When I watched the Gilyard clips re: his explosiveness I was thinking two things- how will it rate in the NFL and how will it rate on the Dolphins. Gilyard looked good, just not top 20 good, where I have been assuming we'll draft, right around # 20. But that Hartline reception- it's great to see a 36 yard pass play, but watching Hartline try to bust it downfield after the catch- he makes Gilyard look like the Flash. Bess had a nice game, but what a bag of average that position is. And Joey Haynos better get some stickum, pronto. And RW- once again proving how truly good he is.
     
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    My second favorite back in this year's draft.
     
  28. ckparrothead

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    Something to consider as we lose a guy like Jason Ferguson for the year, and we start focusing in more on draft prospects, is if Ferguson isn't back, then that could make a Defensive End more likely.

    Sparano said something that kind of caught my attention a little bit about Randy Starks. He seemed to be saying that opposing teams would probably rather see Randy over at Defensive End than at Nose Tackle, because he's so difficult to block one-on-one, and so that gives you difficult choices as a unit on how to block Joey Porter and and Jason Taylor. Sort of a ripple effect.

    We should be prepared for whatever we see out there now that Ferg is gone and we're going to have to fill his spot with some kind of rotation. One thing we should be prepared to see is, what if Randy Starks goes out there and they see another Jay Ratliff? Ferguson was a big boy, according to Muck's sources he's over 350 pounds...but Ratliff was a smaller guy. When asked today whether the ability of guys like McDaniel and Starks to play NT is a product of the defense or a product of necessity, Sparano said "a little bit of both". So, there is something about the defense that makes a smaller NT viable, according to Sparano.

    These guys ALWAYS look at guys that are big and explosive enough to be 3-4 Defensive Ends. They love them, they want as many as they can have. You lose a Jason Ferguson, maybe the way they fill that position isn't to reach for a fatty like Terrence Cody...maybe they start shifting Randy Starks inside more, and go with a Corey Wootton or a Jared Odrick in the draft to help us fill the void, especially if they're not thrilled with the progress of Phil Merling. Wootton in particular seems to fit the mold you might want over at a RDE position in this kind of defense. Isn't that the position Chris Canty played?

    I have a Patriots fan that asks me specific questions about the players in the draft class because he has an idea what he thinks the Patriots will want. He's very focused on a homerun threat RB and a pass rushing OLB. As I told him, I'd suggest it to our own fans here, why not participate in this DT/DE class? They're pretty darn good. Between Jared Odrick, Corey Wootton, Arthur Jones, possibly Gerald McCoy, possibly Allen Bailey...there are some guys to be had out there to help with that position. I'd take any one of those guys at the RDE position for us.
     
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    I get where you're coming from KB, but honesty, I wouldn't want to mess with what we have going on with Starks. IMO putting Starks at Nose takes away an entire aspect of his game and makes him less productive (like putting Suh at NT). He is a playmaker, and I'd hate to reduce that in order to make him a clogger in the middle. I'd rather find someone else to take on the double teams and let Randy keep doing what he's doing. He has 5.5 sacks and tons of QB pressures. It wont be enjoyable to see that diminished.

    Once Ferguson became a 3-4 nose, his production dropped noticeably (tackles, sacks, PBUs included). It's hard enough to find a decent 3-4 DE, and to find one who can put up Richard Seymour type numbers or outperform Luis Castillo, Justin Smith, Ty Warren, and Aaron Smith is like finding a diamond in the rough IMO. I'm just not a fan of moving a player out of a position that he might be a perennial ProBowler in.

    Also, how does it affect the psyche of Starks? You take him away from a DE position that he is finally coming into his own in only to put him in one that has different demands. He seems to have a ton of passion disrupting plays and getting after the QB. Will he have the same menality towards being a pawn used to take on double teams so that everyone around him can reap the rewards? Too risky IMO.
     
  30. Big Red

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    Did you see the Florida game? He was the main guy on that defense responsible for holding Tebow to 26 rushing yards. Its probably just me wishing for another ILB prospect or projecting but I came away convinced that Norwood could make the transition to ILB in our 34.
     
  31. NickyNapoleon

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    I have been on the Dwyer bandwagon for a while now.... And would not complain one bit if he were the pick
     
  32. BuckeyeKing

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    Interesting post CK if we do go with DE Wootton would have to be the guy but he is someone I feel will go top 10. Oddrick is another guy I like he dominated the OSU oline all game he struggled a bit with Boren but other than that he made some plays.

    If a McClain or Spikes is there do you think we can honestly pass on them for a DE?
     
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    I would hope not.... BIG BIG fan of McClain..... One of my top three wish list guys.....
     
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    i cant decide if I want McClain or Hughes :lol:
     
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    like WR danarrio alexander from missouri with our 4th. he had some major injuries but I think at worst he'll be a good possession receiver (what pat turner is supposed to be) at best he'll be a playmaker receiver that catches everything
     
  36. Big Red

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    No.

    Here's my thinking of late. Inside linebacker has to be the priority. A great inside linebacker will take care of a lot of Gibril Wilson's deficiencies. Limiting the amount of plays that Wilson has to make would improve our defense significantly. However a great safety will not do as much for Crowder or Ayodele. Plus Crowder is becoming more and more injury prone. You can't ignore the signs.

    Our biggest needs are inside linebacker, wideout, nose tackle, and safety. Here's how I would prioritize them.

    1. Inside linebacker. If McClain or Spikes are on the board then that's who we need to draft unless Ndamukong Suh, Dez Bryant, or Eric Berry slides and that's not likely. The only other two I would be okay with are Morgan Burnett and Jerry Hughes but I wouldn't consider either of them to be better than McClain or Spikes. However both of them are just as talented. Unfortunately the selection of Burnett or Hughes would still leave us with a big need at ILB.

    I wouldn't count on
    Quan Sturdivant
    Sean Lee
    Josh Hull
    Greg Jones
    Daryl Washington
    Pat Angerer
    Alex Wujciak
    Micah Johnson
    Josh Bynes
    Casey Matthews
    Mike McLaughlin
    or Joe Pawelek to fill that need.
    We need an upgrade not a replacement.

    2. Wideout. Vincent Jackson, Chad Ochocinco, Greg Jennings, Anquan Boldin, DeSean Jackson, Steve Smith, and Sidney Rice were all 2nd round picks. Hines Ward, Steve Smith, Mike Sims-Walker, Mario Manningham, and T.O. were 3rd round picks. IMO Hitting on a wideout is hard to do and just as likely in the 2nd or 3rd as the 1st round.

    3. Nose tackle. I believe there will be a couple of guys available in the third round. Dan Williams from Tennessee and Lamarr Houston from Texas. Either of them would be great.

    4. Safety. Yeremiah Bell and our cornerbacks are solid. Tyrone Culver and Chris Clemons are promising young players. Gibril Wilson is the weak link. Replace him with a guy like Eric Berry or Morgan Burnett and we would have one of the best secondaries in the league. That will have to wait.

    In the meantime we can use our 3rd or 4th round pick on one of these guys.
    T.J. Ward
    Deunta Williams
    Jeron Johnson
    Myron Rolle
    Terrell Skinner
    Justin Woodall
    And hope that we get a steal.

    Also I'm a big fan of Crezdon Butler who plays cornerback for Clemson. Butler is a big big hitter and I really like the idea of drafting him in the 6th or 7th round and coverting him to safety. He would be outstanding on special teams while we develop him.
     
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    Huge fan of TJ Ward!!

    Crezdon has some potential as a Safety convert.
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  38. texasPHINSfan

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    grab donald buckram after the draft as an UDFA and see if he can cut it at this level on the practice squad. :D
     
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    With the quarters defense we play getting someone like McClain who can drop back into the middle and actually cover someone would be epic.... We need a playmaker next to Crowder. Crowder isnt a great player but he is a solid player, he doesnt create turnovers but he doesnt miss alot of tackles. Now you add a player next to him that can generate turnovers and then he can afford to gamble a little bit more because if he misses the odds are that Crowder wont you may see some BIG plays.
     
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