We need to lose Cameron I can't handle this!!!!!!!

now what did Mularkey do to you??? if there is one position on this offense that isnt terrible, its Tight End.

sure they cant block, but Peelle and Halterman (the little he plays) can actually catch. Martin CAN catch, but cant block a turtle.

this is what happens when we ditch Jim Bates, then Jason Garrett....two guys who did, meh....pretty good elsewhere.

 

Our TE's are poor or average at best which means non-existent IMO

 

This team will not win until the turnover (roster and coaches) stops.

Cameron might be the right guy.

The players might not be the rights guys.

Losing is a result of instability as much as anything. So I will say it again -

This team will not win until the turnover (roster and coaches) stops.

 

Ahh, the center cannot hold:

Turning and turning in the widening gyre
The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.

Surely some revelation is at hand;
Surely the Second Coming is at hand.
The Second Coming! Hardly are those words out
When a vast image out of Spiritus Mundi
Troubles my sight: somewhere in sands of the desert
A shape with lion body and the head of a man,
A gaze blank and pitiless as the sun,
Is moving its slow thighs, while all about it
Reel shadows of the indignant desert birds.
The darkness drops again; but now I know
That twenty centuries of stony sleep
Were vexed to nightmare by a rocking cradle,
And what rough beast, its hour come round at last,
Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?

What rough beast is sclouching towards Miami this time?

 

You are really gung-ho on defending this moron Cameron, aren't you...

 

You may be right but this losing record wont hold sway with many zod. Its breeding team issues that im reading in the press as the HC has lost the team with players openly "cursing" him. It cant go on.

 

Indeed.

I don't mean to get personal, but Zod is the only person on this board that is valiant for Cam Cameron. He's living in a fool's paradise.

 

BRING BACK SABAN!!!!!!!

 

Nope! I'm the only one saying it. That's quite different from the only one thinking it.

The point is clear though. I don't care about Cameron's future. All I know is what I see. I see something we WANTED. We wanted the team "blown up". We wanted change.

I have not done but one of you may try. Travel around the league message boards. Pick out a team stuck at 9-7, 10-6, 8-8, and 9-7 every year. Go see what those fans are saying. They are saying the same things we said three years ago.

You want to know what we are saying? We are saying the same things the Lions have been saying since the dawn of time.

 

Hopefully he plays defense. Nice stuff though. Gotta love the classics

 

Add one more. Cameron did a good job getting rid of high priced players that werent going to be a part of the future. Next year we'll have at least 15 new players on our squad. I'm willing to wait one more year to see what he brings in. I think the number one thing that doomed this team was the injuries so I'll give Cam a pass

 

Not really, it's just we aren't going to be able to change your opinions no matter what we say. We just don't feel like wasting our time trying to crack through the thick skulls that some Dolphin fans have.

I'm not saying I'm right or wrong by keeping Cameron because I cannot predict the future. I just feel that it isn't the right thing to do to get rid of him until he shows what he can do next year. Improvement is key and let's face it... the offense just isn't ready for Beck (poor pass protection, Samkon Gado?, WRs/TEs aren't getting time to get open to begin with...). Lemon can scramble and makes the offensive line's job easier. We aren't going to win with Beck so I guess you can choose what you want... Beck to gain experience or Lemon to give us a better chance at a W...

But in the end, we're just fans and it's all a moot point.

 

He will not survive though. We are going 0-16. If he does most will say Huyzienga is stupid. I'd say he has some strong convictions. It's a battle that can't be won though. This team will not get out of the doghouse any time soon. Fan(atics) can't handle that.

 

Actually Zod, I always thought that you were just an "Offense Controls the Game" sort of fella.

For me, you can win with a mediocre QB, a bad RB will doom a bad team, for are loss to the Bills via Lynch, people forget that last season it was Mcgahee..

INOW, it's not the back, it's the system, last season it was Losman, not Edwards, yet the outcome is the same....

 

changing coaches every year is a big reason why we are here right now

 

Maybe Zod, we will see what the Draft and FA brings, don't forget that Cam has not been involved with the Fins Organization for a solid year as of yet.

I will say that Ronnie Brown is moving higher on my "things we can do without" list with each loss.

 

"things we can do without"? I think if anything, the games we've played without Ronnie have showed why we CAN'T do without him!!

We need playmakers and most importantly a QB that can get them the ball!! Ronnie certainly showed he was a playmaker.

 

you got to draft guys, stay the course and take our medicine now, we will dish it out later and i say when that time comes run it up on teams

 

I think its fifty/ fifty whether he does. It really comes down to Wayne. In the past he's been patient to a fault. He may just dump him. I certainly wouldnt be surprised but I think Wayne will give him one more year

 

Enter the Dragon Daren McF, like Bruce Lee......

 

As we go winless week after week, the pressure is mounting on the entire team to avoid going down in infamy. You can make valid arguments across the board for poor performance (new system, injuries, etc.), but the fan base will not stand for the organization standing pat at the end of the season. If we finish 0-16 there will HAVE to be changes. Heck, I'm surprised we haven't seen folks attending the game wearing paper bags on their heads ...

For Wayne, it comes down to rationalizing which change his ticketholders and fans will accept. The casual fan isn't going to care if the GM is axed - sad but true - however, they will expect coaching changes, specifically head coaching changes. Even if Cam is the greatest coach over, we finish 0-16 and all bets are off.

 

Offense does control the game. It is the only time that you possess the ball. What is missed in cliche is that it dictates your entire game plan.

One thing that I am always doing is studying the game. I'm always combating the same issues. Study what you need. Throw out the rest. But the longer you study, the longer you play, the more you realize that you need everything because in a ten game schedule- chances are you will see everything. Studying your opponent in high school is easy. They usually do one thing well. They either pass well or they run well. You take the one they do well away. You can't do that in the NFL. You cannot do alot in the NFL that can be done in lower levels (college included).

Defense is a response to an attack. All of the attacks have origination somewhere. I like hearing announcers say "designing more plays" when talking about an offensive coordinator. There is nothing original in football anymore and there is a mode of attack that most are following. Multiple formation has it's origination in two very basic modes of attack - Tiger Ellison's passing game and John Robinson's I formation. All offenses in the NFL are multiple offenses. Everything you see today was being set in stone in the 1980's. Very few ideas are new. When someone says learning the language all they are learning is a word for the same thing they already knew.

The fact is that there is less change in an NFL team in the action of firing a coach than there is in high school. Yet High School coaches keep their jobs and NFL coaches are on a carousel. Why? Pressure from public demand. You have to ask yourself where that demand comes from. I think I know exactly where it comes from. It comes from clowns (media) who make their money by stirring the pot on a daily basis. I refuse to participate in that any longer and I try to get MY team's fans to do the same. That is my voice.

I say let the others wander around aimlessly. Let them wander around not knowing a SINGLE direction. I say when you pick a direction, you go with it. You give a guy the same rope you SHOULD give a college coach. You bring in a coach to college and you give him four years. Why four years? Those are all his guys, from seniors all the way down. If he's not winning, he's fired.

 

There is no way we don't go 0-16 and with that record, Cam is going to get the boot. The only questions I have is who goes with him and who is the new head coach.

I wouldn't be surprised if Cam is gone before the end of the season or even this week.

 

didn't hayden fox lose all their games with the orlando breakers his first year and the win the super bowl the next year, see there's still hope

 

Hmm, you may missed the gestalt of your original statement.

If Offense controls the game, then like a great defense it must neutralize the Defenses strong suit, it MUST seize hold of that strong aspect and use it as a hammer to beat on the opponent.

INOW when playing a strong running team, the offense must score quickly, when playing a strong passing team, the offense must protect the defense through ball control.

When using the offense as a the tool for victory, that offense MUST do both well.

The Colts were the picture perfect Dominant Offense last season.

 

Cam is not going to get fired this year even if they dont win a game. The team has to many issues, injuries, rookies etc to blame this thing on Cam. I do think Cam has made some poor playing calling decisions which has led to a couple of loses this year.

If you listen to his post game press conference he is almost praising Lemon for the job he did, which is amazing considering he had 2 picks and 2 fumbles. He made it sound like the reason they lost was Becks fault. That was kinda pathetic excuse. He needs to just come out and say this is a rebuilding year, so deal with it.

 

I'm glad most of the unsure or undecided fans have come around. One season or not this is disgraceful. Do you guys understand the magnitude of 0-16? That's equally as difficult as 16-0. There's no excuse to be that bad with a professional football team.

 

we need to get rid of cameron. I have never seen a coach so unanimated in my life. Anytime something happens, he just stands there and stares. no emotion at all. This guy cannot lead our football team. He belongs in the booth as an OC not a head coach.

 

Which is why the Dolphins always gave the Patriots fits IN THE PAST.

Which is why the Patriots always gave the Dolphins fits......

Notice I didn't say IN THE PAST.

 

Cam HAS to be fired. This team has shown, ESPECIALLY in the past two weeks, that it just doesn't want to play for him. They don't believe in him and they don't buy into his concepts. We shouldn't be surprised. This guy had a poor record in college and his only real success was with the Chargers as an offensive coordinator who just happened to have L.T. at his disposal. When you have talent at QB and a good o-line and pretty good WRs coupled with one of the best ever RBs and one of the best ever TEs, you can certainly make a name for yourself. Talent like that makes a coaches job easier and it sure makes them look better than they are. Cam Cameron, regardless of whether he is a good O-coordinator or not, is NOT a good head coach. Contrary - he is a terrible head coach.

We all know that Wayne H. has been slow to pull the trigger on firing guys in the past. But I think if you consider the proportions of how this team has collapsed, how bad this team is prepared, the incompetency in NUMEROUS situations, the indecision, the wishy washy personnel decisions, the MANY questionable in game decisions, the obvious mutiny that is beginning to take place in the locker room (that has likely been going on for a while - but only quieter) - then you have to think that Wayne is smart enough to see that a change is absolutely necessary. I would venture to say that some very prominent Dolphin Alumni are even putting bugs in WH's ears about the need to make a change. There are some candidates out there that could help this team.

There are some who think continuity is what we need. That sounds great. But before we go with the continuity, let's get a winner for a coach. Because I want continuity as well. But i want WINNING continuity. Hell, we had continuity with Wannstedt. It just wasn't the kind of continuity we wanted. Cam won't be either. So what would be accomplished by keeping Cameron? Another embarrassing season, only to WANT to make a change after NEXT season, only to see that the potential candidates were already hired away? Hell no. We have to do it now. Cameron has to be let go. He is a joke. This guy is absolutely clueless when it comes to game PREPARATION, MANAGEMENT, and MOTIVATION and, also very important, he seem to have absolutely NO game plan. I mean, he has nothing resembling a game plan. And he makes zero adjustments. There are just WAY too many negatives on this guy to even consider keeping him. I will be disgusted if we keep him after this season. Because it will be yet another long season with him - another season of wondering what what might have been. To hell with that. Let's go after a proven guy NOW. There are several out there.

 

This makes no sense. The team rallied for Cameron despite being down by 24 early in the second quarter.

Why would they do that if they didn't want to play for him?

 

Nothing is everything, and the rest will follow...err...ahh..this isn't a Lakers Board..

Seriously though, my pimping for McFadden is for a purpose, he is a difference maker, we have only Ted Ginn as a difference maker right now.

I must say that LBook is starting to rub off some tarnish though.

right now we are seriously playing like every ball will be picked off and every running play will be stuffed, we need to flip that script and shine a bit.

Derek Hagan is the "perfect" locui of our troubles, he drops a sure fire TD pass, then catches everything else thrown at him.......

WTH is that?

 

That's easy: PERSONAL Pride. But did they RALLY? Not really. They were never in the game.

 

Exactly, and who knows their motivation, maybe he promised them all cookies after the game. I noticed they were yelling at him on the sidelines most of the game and even the Bills fans I was watching the game with were amazed by the apparent lack of respect some of the players had for him.

 

I say, your priorities are out of whack. The McFad that is drafting McFadden round here is McFoolish.

A RB is closer to the bottom of the list of things this team needs.