soooo they beat buff.....then we have same division record we have all remaining afc games......so we need to win out
San diego and pitt are the uncommon games for us we are 0-1 so far who are their uncommon games from the AFC west and north
I think i figured it out If New England beats Carolina and we still finish tied with them we win the division Now if it's a 3-way I have no idea
We hold it over the Jets because of our head-to-head. I think we have to win out regardless for a shot at the playoffs.
Actually we win the 3 way with the Jets and Pats Phins 3-1 Pats 2-2 Jets 1-3 We might have to cheer for the Jets to finish tied with us
Just think about this...... We blew it against Buffalo We blew it against Indianapolis and We blew it against New Orleans We had the lead in all these games and blew it If we could only finish off those game we would be sitting good. But only and if's don't count.
per PFT: Since the Dolphins swept the Jets, the Pats split with the Jets, and the Pats split with the Dolphins, Miami would win a three-way tie, given the best won-loss-tied record in the home-and-home round robin. Miami is 3-1, New England is 2-2, and New York is 1-3. If there's a two-way tie between the Dolphins and the Jets, Miami would win the tie via the head-to-head sweep. If there's a two-way tie between the Jets and the Patriots, New England would win the tie via a better division record. If the Fins and Pats tie, then it could get interesting. The first tiebreaker -- head-to-head -- is a push. If the Pats beat the Bills in two weeks, the second tiebreaker -- division record -- will be a push. Then, the tie would be determined by record in common games. Currently, the Fins are 4-4 against teams on New England's schedule, and the Pats are 5-3 against teams on Miami's schedule.
If they lose to Buffalo we get it. If they lose to Houston and we win out then it gets interesting. VERY interesting. They'd be 3-1 against the rest of the AFC East, the same as us. We'll have beat Houston while they lost to them. Their massacre of Tennessee won't make a difference if we beat them in any way shape or form. We both lost to the Colts. We both lost to New Orleans. They beat Atlanta while we lost to them. It'll be an outright tie as far as common opponents. Since we have our extra loss in the NFC versus theirs in the AFC we'll have the division in a very similar way to last year. I expect the Patriots to lose one more game so win out and we have a great shot. If we do win out we'll likely face Denver at home which is a winnable game. After that I think it'd be onto Indy so I don't want to really think about. I'd much rather go to Cinncy or San Diego.
It's simple to me: Win out and we're in because that required defeating Jacksonville and Pittsburgh. And if we win out, at worst, we've got identical records with Jacksonville. I know this thread is about the division, but I'm just saying... if anything, we know we can get in. EDIT: I forgot about Baltimore. If anything we will need them to lose to Pittsburgh to drop to 3-3 in the division.
Patsies are 2-2 vs the rest of the AFC East, our intra division record at worst will be as good as theirs, they lost to the Jets and Dolphins, we've lost to the Pats and Bills.
for the division.....it goes head to head - push division- (assuming they beat buff) both of us 4-2 PUSH common games- they are 5-3 we are 4-4......if they beat carolina they are 6-3.....if we both win out....patriots take it. obviously this whole thing is contingent to the pats losing one more time sense they hold a 1 game lead record wise. best case scenario is the bills coming away with a big win. a huge win. carolina beating the patsies next week would help to because of the whole common opponent thing........ this is gunna be one hell've a 4 weeks. but in the end fellas.........we have to win OUR games....or this is completely irrelevant. edit: the buffalo game is HUGE. if we win out and the pats lose to buff.....we are back to back afc east champs !!!!!
If it came down to it .... J ... E ... T ... S ..... yeah, makes me sick too, but I'd do it in a heartbeat if it meant a division crown!
Quite frankly, after how this season started, I'd sign up for that, no matter what the result in Indy would be. Please, please let our season end that way. Better than an 8-8 snoozer!!!
This is all assuming Miami wins out…………..big assumption. If Miami and Jets win out and NE loses 1: Does not matter which game NE loses since in a 3 team tie breaker the head to head is #1 tie breaker and the records would be NE 2-2, NYJ 2-2 and Miami 3-1. Miami wins the tie breaker. Assuming Jets and New England lose 1 then the tie breaker comes to the Patriots and Dolphins (Jets are eliminated by record), and the Patriots loss must be to the Bills, Jags, or Texans and the Dolphins would win based on division and/or conference record. If the NE loss is to Carolina then NE probably wins based on strength of victory (tiebreaker 5). If NE loses 2 and the Jets win out then the Phins win a tie breaker with the Jets based on head to head. Or a potential for a wildcard……. If Miami wins out and New England wins the division then Jax would have been eliminated by record (losing to Pats and Dolphins)…..leaving Baltimore, Pittsburgh, NYJ and Cincy as potential wildcards. Cincy wins all tie breakers with Baltimore and Pittsburgh so let us count Cincy as the division winner, leaving Miami, Baltimore, Pittsburgh and the Jets competing for the 2 wildcards….now since the assumption is Miami wins out then they will have beat the Jets twice and Steelers to get at least the second wild card. or If Miami loses one then that brings in the Titans or Texans into the equation (since Miami will have beaten at least one of them) and is way too complicated to get into any definitive’s, however a Baltimore loss to Green Bay tonight is very advantageous to any scenario since that would leave Baltimore and Pittsburgh with 6 losses and they have to play each other, which would drop them to at least 7 loses. Jax has the toughest road having to play Miami/NE/Indy so they could lose 2 or even all 3 dropping them to 7 losses. The worst one loss scenario IMHO is losing to Pittsburgh and Pittsburgh beating Baltimore. Bottom line……….win out and we have a very good shot at being at least the second wildcard and a decent shot at being the division winner.
Seriously, while not 100% certain, if we win out, there will be a spot for us, somewhere. It would take a lot to keep us out at that point - not even sure where to start on that one.
Not really...I left Denver out which was a misnomer on my part since I already concede them a WC (although I guess they could lose 3 but if they lose to Indy AND Philly they still have virtue of conference record). You still have Denver 2 games ahead of us, Jacksonville a game up, and Baltimore a half game up............conceding Denver as WC1 then you have to believe Baltimore is going to lose a couple since Pittsburgh, Baltimore and Jacksonville have better conference records than us right now. Assuming we win out then we eliminate Jacksonville and Pittsburgh by beating them but you still have Baltimore one game up with a better conference record. Looking at the schedule I do not see a Baltimore loss other than maybe Pittsburgh and the Green Bay game is huge. I think the mostly likely way to miss out for us with winning out is Baltimore losing only 1 more game and the two wildcards being Denver and Baltimore and NE winning out and being the division champion.....that is even if we DO win out............Baltimore's schedule is not real intimidating.
I wonder what the statistical possibility would have to be in order to see 2 teams actually get to tiebreak #12 - the coin flip. I bet the NFL would make a spectaclur 1 hour Saturday night show for it.
