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Clayton breaks down the AFC wildcard

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by shaunm000, Dec 10, 2009.

  1. shaunm000

    shaunm000 Well-Known Member

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  2. dolpns13

    dolpns13 Chest Rockwell is my hero

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    Whos to say it wont come down to NE and some other team.. We could still take the division.
     
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  3. shaunm000

    shaunm000 Well-Known Member

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    Youve got a point... imagine if NE were to get stunned by Carolina this week. I dont really see it but i would be pumped!
     
  4. gunn34

    gunn34 I miss Don & Dan

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    We all hope. Carolina is one of those teams that could show up.
     
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  5. vt_dolfan

    vt_dolfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

    As well...

    He kind of glosses over the Ravens...

    But the Ravens play Detroit, Chicago, and Pittsburgh at Heinz. They could win all , and finish 10-6. So what happens if we finish 10-6 and they finish 10-6?
     
  6. DolfanCole

    DolfanCole Season Ticket Holder

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    He somewhat glosses over them. I think he's just putting a lot of confidence in the Steelers beating them.

    Not sure how it would work out if we both ended up 10-6. We obviously wouldn't have a head-to-head tiebreaker to look at. Plus, that would put us with the same conference record. Then there's the common opponents, and I don't have the time/will-power to figure all that out. Bottom line, I think is, we need to win out and hope for them to lose. Then that eliminates most of the different scenarios.
     
  7. finz810

    finz810 Season Ticket Holder

    ahh man I hope it comes down to it! ill be their for the last two games at home, thank god 4 winter break from college!

    if it does come down to it it'll be so sick for me, back to back years seein the last game of the yr. where a W could mean playoffs! I was in NY for the jets-fins game and that has to be 1 of the greatest games Ive ever seen, can they top it this yr?!
     
  8. dolpns13

    dolpns13 Chest Rockwell is my hero

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    The tie breaker would go who has the better division record, then who has the better conference record, then who has the better record against common opponents, then coin toss I guess.
     
  9. FaninPatsyLand

    FaninPatsyLand The Truth

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    We're not in the same division as Baltimore, thus division record is irrelevant.

    http://www.nfl.com/standings/tiebreakingprocedures

    If we end up tied with the Ravens at 10-6 for the final wild-card spot, "strength of victory" will be the relevant tie-breaker. It is impossible to know which team would potentially win that tie-breaker until the remainder of the season has played out.
     
  10. dolpns13

    dolpns13 Chest Rockwell is my hero

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    What I meant was who has the better division record within their respective division, which your research discounted.. Just a guess on my part. Obviously I know Baltimore is not in our division.

    Thats alot of tie breaking rules... Would be funny if it got all the way to a coin toss.
     
  11. FaninPatsyLand

    FaninPatsyLand The Truth

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    Division record is only used as a tie-breaker when the two teams in question reside within the same division. Since Baltimore is not in the AFC East, each team's divisional record is irrelevant.
     
  12. Killerphins

    Killerphins The Finger

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    can we just beat jacksonville first before we go on any further about playoffs and wilcard chances
    saying it will come down to the steelers game is way premature
    this team has struggled being inconsistent all season
    unless that changes we aren't going anywhere
     
  13. Frumundah Finnatic

    Frumundah Finnatic U Mad Miami?

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    Has it ever come down to that?
     
  14. PHINANALYST

    PHINANALYST Well-Known Member

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    roger, after the JAX game, then we can realistically go thru the playoff possibilities - as we would have 'pulled' JAX back to the pack ... if we don't beat JAX, it just won't matter.
     
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  15. DolfanCole

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    I think the win-loss percentage of common games would come before the strength of victory. And if that's the case, we'd lose. Common opponents are San Diego, New England, Indianapolis, and Pittsburgh. If we're both 10-6, that would mean their record would be 3-2 (wins against SD, Pittsburgh twice) and ours 2-3 (wins against New England and Pittsburgh).
     
  16. FaninPatsyLand

    FaninPatsyLand The Truth

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    Good point.
     
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  17. Killerphins

    Killerphins The Finger

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    NFL Tiebreaking Procedures

    The six postseason participants from each conference are seeded as follows:

    1. The division champion with the best record.
    2. The division champion with the second-best record.
    3. The division champion with the third-best record.
    4. The division champion with the fourth-best record.
    5. The Wild Card club with the best record.
    6. The Wild Card club with the second-best record.

    The following procedures will be used to break standings ties for postseason playoffs and to determine regular-season schedules.

    NOTE: Tie games count as one-half win and one-half loss for both clubs.
    TO BREAK A TIE WITHIN A DIVISION

    If, at the end of the regular season, two or more clubs in the same division finish with identical won-lost-tied percentages, the following steps will be taken until a champion is determined.
    Two Clubs

    1. Head-to-head (best won-lost-tied percentage in games between the clubs).
    2. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the division.
    3. Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games.
    4. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference.
    5. Strength of victory.
    6. Strength of schedule.
    7. Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed.
    8. Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed.
    9. Best net points in common games.
    10. Best net points in all games.
    11. Best net touchdowns in all games.
    12. Coin toss

    Three or More Clubs

    (Note: If two clubs remain tied after third or other clubs are eliminated during any step, tie breaker reverts to step 1 of the two-club format).

    1. Head-to-head (best won-lost-tied percentage in games among the clubs).
    2. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the division.
    3. Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games.
    4. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference.
    5. Strength of victory.
    6. Strength of schedule.
    7. Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed.
    8. Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed.
    9. Best net points in common games.
    10. Best net points in all games.
    11. Best net touchdowns in all games.
    12. Coin toss

    TO BREAK A TIE FOR THE WILD-CARD TEAM

    If it is necessary to break ties to determine the two Wild-Card clubs from each conference, the following steps will be taken.

    1. If the tied clubs are from the same division, apply division tie breaker.
    2. If the tied clubs are from different divisions, apply the following steps.

    Two Clubs

    1. Head-to-head, if applicable.
    2. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference.
    3. Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games, minimum of four.
    4. Strength of victory.
    5. Strength of schedule.
    6. Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed.
    7. Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed.
    8. Best net points in conference games.
    9. Best net points in all games.
    10. Best net touchdowns in all games.
    11. Coin toss.

    Three or More Clubs

    (Note: If two clubs remain tied after third or other clubs are eliminated, tie breaker reverts to step 1 of applicable two-club format.)

    1. Apply division tie breaker to eliminate all but the highest ranked club in each division prior to proceeding to step 2. The original seeding within a division upon application of the division tie breaker remains the same for all subsequent applications of the procedure that are necessary to identify the two Wild-Card participants.
    2. Head-to-head sweep. (Applicable only if one club has defeated each of the others or if one club has lost to each of the others.)
    3. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference.
    4. Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games, minimum of four.
    5. Strength of victory.
    6. Strength of schedule.
    7. Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed.
    8. Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed.
    9. Best net points in conference games.
    10. Best net points in all games.
    11. Best net touchdowns in all games.
    12. Coin toss

    When the first Wild-Card team has been identified, the procedure is repeated to name the second Wild-Card, i.e., eliminate all but the highest-ranked club in each division prior to proceeding to step 2. In situations where three or more teams from the same division are involved in the procedure, the original seeding of the teams remains the same for subsequent applications of the tie breaker if the top-ranked team in that division qualifies for a Wild-Card berth.
     
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  18. DolfanCole

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    One thing I'm still not entirely certain on is how the "common games" are defined. Of the common games, we both play New England and Pittsburgh. However, due to the divisions, we play NE twice, Pittsburgh once, whereas Baltimore is the opposite, playing Pittsburgh twice and NE once. It would make sense that all games would count even though there are multiple games against common opponents. This is what I used in figuring out the W-L record of common games in my prior post.
     
  19. CitizenSnips

    CitizenSnips hmm.

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    win and we're in. thats all sparano has to say.
     
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  20. mroz

    mroz Fix the OL Club Member

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    they all count...

    So for example our common opponents are Indie, SD Pitt and NE. but we played 5 games against those 4 teams. Our record would be 2-3 vs those teams.
     
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  21. Ozzy

    Ozzy Premium Member Luxury Box

    I'd be very happy to see NE lose to anyone but if they're only going to lose one more game this year, we need them to lose to an AFC team. Preferably Barfalo but one of the AFC teams helps them more than losing to Carolina.
     
  22. DolfanCole

    DolfanCole Season Ticket Holder

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    That's what I thought (couldn't imagine it being any other way). And that would put Baltimore 3-2 vs. those teams should they finish 10-6. So we definitely need them to lose (at least) one game.
     
  23. GISH

    GISH ~mUST wARN oTHERS~

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    only every time time there is an overtime game, the results of which change the playoff picture. football is a game of chance.
     
  24. Alex13

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