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Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by miamiron, Dec 14, 2009.

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  1. padre31

    padre31 Premium Member Luxury Box

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    Nah, as in a Qb who plays well in the preseason for 2 yrs in a row and we then peddle for a high draft pick.
     
  2. jetssuck

    jetssuck I hear Mandich's voice...

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    That works great.....if you got him for a 5th or a 6th

    Not when he cost you a high 2nd rounder....AND had to develop him.

    And then there's the odds that Pat White will ever command a 1st round pick....which are slim and none.
     
  3. padre31

    padre31 Premium Member Luxury Box

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    Err..what? So Sanchez goes off at #5, White outperformed him, and yet even though Sanchez was a consensus top 7 type of pick, White is still some sort of bad prospect?




    Depth chart says #2.

    Yeah, that is absurd, so let me get this straight, they invested a #2 pick in White, to play Qb, and for some unknown reason they should then reverse course on that decision, based on no apparent evidence, and make White a Wr, a position he has never played?
     
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  4. BuckeyeKing

    BuckeyeKing Wolves DYNASTY!!!!

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    :lol: what are you hoping for from a 2nd rounder? I don't think we will ever get returned value.
     
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    And only time will tell either way.
     
  6. jetssuck

    jetssuck I hear Mandich's voice...

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    I'm guessing they didn't buy Pat White as a NFL QB......did they?






    The depth chart also said Pat White was #2 when Pennington got hurt.....did that matter?
    The only way they should have invested that high of a pick on White, was if they envisioned him as a multi purpose play maker/ emergency 3rd string QB. Taking him at #44 overall as a QB prospect should cost someone their job.
     
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  7. like2god

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    Wake is very raw and Roth was still in the picture, it wasn't hard at all to see him as the odd man out. But there is a pretty big difference between the ability to get to the QB and quality of a pass thrown, one relies on a player using his speed, strength, vision and a whole assortment of moves to beat another player and get to the QB within a small window of time, and the other should be a fairly routine action that only relies on the QB's ability. When a pass just looks ugly, that's bad mechanics and/or ability, hence the reason the team was trying to fix it.

    One play doesn't make a player, the NFL is littered with one play heroes.

    When you are a rebuilding team, you damn well better draft wisely. That means using high draft picks to find starters, not backups or specialty players. You don't look at the history of players panning out by round and say "well, not many guys who have been drafted at this point have worked out, so lets play eeney meeney miney moe and hopefully find someone who can at least make the roster", you use every draft pick to find the best player available and that's something that we didn't do with White. We heard rumbles that the Pats were interested and I believe that this FO outsmarted themselves.

    Or the short version, you can find a backup QB on the street, a quality young starter is a little more difficult.

    Why do you spend yet another high draft pick on a QB when you drafted Henne to be your future? And remember all the reports that said the Miami FO was sold on Henne, why draft another player that high before you know what you have in the last 2nd round pick from the year prior? So there wouldn't be any bickering or complaining, Henne was brought in to be the future and it was apparent that he would be on the bench last season to learn. White has an opportunity to play and he's not getting much done out there. He's known for his open field running, the NFL is a much faster, stronger and more intelligent league than college, if he can't make plays with his legs (which is one of the easier ways to succeed in this league) then maybe we didn't get good value at that draft spot. There is still plenty of time for him to develop, but thus far he isn't able to excel at one of the easier tasks in the NFL, one that he was heralded for in college and both before and after the draft.
     
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  8. jdang307

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    after seeing a player with worse accuracy and worse mechanics and fundamentals than possibly any QB ever have a great winning record as QB I can't write Pat White off. After seeing another not so great passer but great athlete (vick) do so well, you'd think White would deserve a chance.

    He did compile a 65% accuracy in college, he can run purdy damn good, and he did perform well at the combine when people said he wouldn't. He was the co-winner of the GM award for best combine performer (never heard of that, thanks Wiki!). The guy's done nothing but win, and if you were to compare similar accomplishments up until this point, is a better prospect than Chad Henne.
     
  9. Bpk

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    I still can;t believe we got nothing for Matt Roth. Not even a 2016 7th round pick. I mean, wow.

    I'm curious why everyone is convince Thigpen has so little upside? I don;t know enough about the kid, but if guys like Trent Green had great careers, not sure why any decent-armed QB couldn;t be developed into starter-quality material.

    I think the mental mpart of the game is a tougher transition, actually. That and some of the footwork and release mechanics that change. Does anyone know who has better mechanics, Pat White or Tyler Thigpen? As I see it, Pat White's obstacle is mainly learning the mental part of the game since he didn;t operate in a pro-style offense in college nor is he adept at readingcomplex defenses and going through progressions yet.

    Anyways, regarding Pat White, I'm glad we'll have someone to argue heatedly about once Ginn is gone.
     

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