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Our '10 Quarterback situation

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by KeyFin, Jan 3, 2010.

  1. KeyFin

    KeyFin Well-Known Member

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    I realise it's a bit early to start this debate...especially with Pat White injured and possibly out long term. There are several quality QB's available in the draft this year and with our loss today we will have the opportunity to take one of them if Parcells decides that is the way to go. I thought Tyler Thigpen did awesome today, despite losing the game with a dumb interception throwing into double coverage at the end of the game, and I am pretty sure Henne's injury is not career threatening so he will be back. Pennington is also a huge question mark on if he will even play next year.

    With all of that said, what do we do?

    You have to figure Henne as our #1, and Thigpen proved enough today to be our #2 (uless we trade him to move up in the draft or to secure an additional pick). I can not get Tim Tebow out of the back of my mind since his playstyle screams wildcat, or do we go a different route all together and ignore the QB situation until we talk more with Pennington?

    Again, I realise it is very early and injuries will play a critical factor, but I welcome your opinions and comments.
     
  2. PhinishLine

    PhinishLine Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Unless Henne's eye pops out the socket I doubt we have a QB situation. Pat White will stay the #2 as a Spread Option trigger man with Thigpen the true pocket backup.
     
  3. muscle979

    muscle979 Season Ticket Holder

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    No thanks to Tebow. He won't be able to play NFL QB any better than White. No more wildcat picks please.
     
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  4. brandon27

    brandon27 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I don't think the QB situation will change at all from what we have now. Henne will probably have the starting job at the opening of camp, with it being a competition with Thigpen. Pat White will remain as #2 on gamedays simply because of the versatility that he provides. The loser of the Henne/Thigpen battle will be the #3 on gamedays, much the same as how Henne was before Pennington got hurt.

    To me, Pennington will be gone. I don't see him wanting to be a backup here, nor do I see our need for him to be with Thigpen now here. Thigpen wont be going anywhere since we just traded a draft pick for him. So, as I said, if anybody goes, its probably Pennington. Then the QB situation is the same then, as it is now.

    I highly doubt we sign a QB, or draft a QB. We have far more pressing needs right now.
     
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  5. bluehaze

    bluehaze New Member

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    I have a feeling Thigpen is the number 2 after what we saw today, that is if Henne get's hurt White is not capable of replacing him. I also think we move away from the whole Wildcat as that is just so dependent on Ronnie if he get's hurt it changes our whole offense. If they are smart we will go with a conventional offense and White will move to reciever (Hopefully he is OK).
     
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  6. 2socks

    2socks Rebuilding Since 1973

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    There is an easy and obvious answer to your question................

    Pennington and Ricky to Denver for Brandon Marshall
     
  7. CashInFist

    CashInFist Well-Known Member

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    I think ALL of our QB's are not good enough to get us to the playoffs, much less the Super Bowl. We need to upgrade, yet again.
     
  8. MonstBlitz

    MonstBlitz Nobody's Fart Catcher

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    Henne went 7-6 as a starter in his first NFL season. IMHO, we have our QB. And we also have our backup in Thigpen. We will see what happens with White.
     
  9. Frumundah Finnatic

    Frumundah Finnatic U Mad Miami?

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    There is no situation, Henne is the guy.
     
  10. FinsAreLife

    FinsAreLife Well-Known Member

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    Henne is the guy, thigpen is the backup, there is no situation.
     
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  11. 54Fins

    54Fins "In Gase we trust"

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    over there
    I think there will be a QB battle in the pre season and Tyler will be the #2 guy when it's all said and done.(if he is still around) which I feel is likely.

    Tough decision about Penny but I feel he's a goner.To bad he he doesn't stick around and get into coaching somehow.

    We can't speculate on PW yet.It remains to be seen what his future will be(QB) even if he can come back healthy.
     
  12. keypusher

    keypusher Well-Known Member

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    Henne had 13 interceptions in 13 games. Not something you'll put on the first line of your QB resume, but not the stuff of which machines are made, either. Testaverde in '88 -- that was an interception machine.

    Put another way, there are so many crying needs on this team, QB is not high on the list.
     
  13. CashInFist

    CashInFist Well-Known Member

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    Henne could not be counted on to win "The Big One" if his life depended on it...
     
  14. Frumundah Finnatic

    Frumundah Finnatic U Mad Miami?

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    Its his first year starting, his numbers are similar to Matt Ryans' and Joe Flacco's numbers last year.

    Both who are "QBs on the rise".
     
  15. CashInFist

    CashInFist Well-Known Member

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    Matt Ryan and Joe Flacco STINK!!! :lol:
     
  16. Bpk

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    You're probably right about all of the above. Some Q's:

    1) Will Henne get any better at touch passes, at pocket awareness, at not making the once per game "wtf was he thinking!?!" throw? His rep is that ALL THREE were issues at Michigan SIX YEARS ago. If they are still issues now, I have little reason to believe he'll change in any of those categories.

    2) Where do yoy think Pennington will end up?

    3) If Thigpen has a great training camp would you consider letting him start the season. Let's say he plays at a 95 QB rating level through preseason and Henne is a 74 (like in 2008 AND 2009) again. I wonder how Thigpen would look with equal preparation and practice reps with first team.

    Overall, I hope Henne improves. He has the greatest potential of the QBs on our roster.
     
  17. Bpk

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    So list White as a WR so you can carry him into games, let Thigpen remain the #2 QB, and White can still play in the Wildcat.
     
  18. DolfanCole

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    From what I saw of Thigpen last year and today, I am very comfortable with him being our #2. I also think Henne is the obvious #1. Now what happens after that is a huge question.

    I really didn't like the White pick in the draft. And from what I saw today, I don't like it even more. Pat just brings nothing more to the table. If we want to run the WildCat or spread, we could be easily use Brown/Thigpen to do that (see the Hartline TD run today out of the spread). The problem really is that we spent a 2nd on White. I'd like to trade him, if it's any way possible. If not, just cut him.

    With that, I think we go with a veteran backup. Pennington would be the ideal guy for this IMO. The problem obviously is whether Pennington would want to do that. If not, try to find a veteran guy that can fit in with the offense.

    Bottom line for me is that #1 Henne, #2 Thigpen, #3 Pennington/veteran.
     
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  19. Bpk

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    It will be interesting to watch this.

    He did win the big MNF Jets game.

    I feel like the Defense lost us the Tenn and Hou games.

    Henne lost us the Buffalo game, but even though it WAS big in the standings, it didn;t FEEL like a big game. It felt like a trap game heading in.
     
  20. DolfanCole

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    Problem is that we have enough WR's already taking up spots that can't get on the field. We can't afford to waste a spot to use just for White.
     
  21. DolfanCole

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    Exactly, so why would you waste another spot for someone who isn't even a WR?
     
  22. Bpk

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    It doesn;t waste a spot if you only carry 2 QBs anyways. just add an extra "WR" in White and have him practice at WR/Wildcat/QB/Specialty player.

    In games you use him as a slash. If your first twop QBs go down, you let him play QB.

    The only way it costs roster space is if you sign ANOTHER QB to carry 3 QB's PLUS White. I would just keep Henne and Thigpen and re-categorize White.
     
  23. keypusher

    keypusher Well-Known Member

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    It's hard to see where Pennington could wind up. If you have serious playoff aspirations you can't really bring him in as a starter, because he's too fragile and, bluntly, not good enough. The only place he could be a starter would be someplace like Miami in 2007 -- a really horrible team with no quarterback. But why would he want to do that again? He is not going to top what he did in 2008. I see him backing up somewhere, or going into coaching. Did he say something once about wanting to coach high school, or am I thinking of someone else?

    Suppose he was willing to be a backup, would I prefer him to Thigpen? Hard to say. I think he brings a lot to the team as a leader and a worker. But Thigpen makes a lot more sense if the Wildcat is going to continue to be part of the picture.

    No idea re Henne.
     
  24. the 23rd

    the 23rd a.k.a. Rio

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    don't see a QB need
    we are flush @ the position
    would like to see Pennington return
    as a QB backup & coach
    but doubt that he will

    needs: ILB, PlayMaker@WR, second stud NT to anchor the 3/4 & a serious RedZone target

    the IceMan made his bones & Thigpen is more than a competent backup
     
  25. DolfanCole

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    But then you're hosed when it comes to game day and the inactives since you won't be able to use the 3rd QB as an inactive. Instead you'll have to use it on another player/position.
     
  26. muscle979

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    Some team will give Penny a chance to be their starter and he will go there next season. In all likelihood. If nobody called though it's feasible he might come back to be the backup but they really don't need him with Thigpen around. I mean it's great to have his leadership and smarts but he'll be a huge question mark physically.
     
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  27. Fin Fan In Cali

    Fin Fan In Cali Dolphin fan since 1970 Luxury Box

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    I hope Pat is okay, but after I saw the game today, I don't think he will be an NFL QB. If his player skills don't get any better, Bill and Jeff will have to admit this was a very bad mistake.
     
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  28. Rick 1966

    Rick 1966 Professional Hipshooter

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    The question is, will they cut him (and their losses) or try to keep him around in some other position?
     
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  29. Fin Fan In Cali

    Fin Fan In Cali Dolphin fan since 1970 Luxury Box

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    Even at WR he would have to hit the weights and bulk up. This team management has a tough decision to make.
     
  30. Samphin

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    You mean the same guy who left his first season as a starter with a winning record and multiple fourth quarter comebacks?

    I would say Henne has MORE than proved himself to be named the starter for next season. Beating the PAtriots was a big game. Beating the Bills was a big game. SWEEPING the JETS were big games. Beating the Panthers on national TV in primetime is a big game, in my opinion.

    Is he the best? No, but he is by far, our best option, and a good one at that.
     
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  31. FinsAreLife

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    If pat white bulks up i think he still can be productive in a wildcat/shotgun wrinkle offense if used correctly.

    As for thigpen/henne, thigpen is a solid qb no question but i just find it ironic that sooo many people said before todays game that henne is our qb no question and then afterwards everyone is so hung up on thigpen. One game shouldnt make that much of a difference!!!!! Henne is our qb, no question.
     
  32. Fin-Omenal

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    He got a bad rap for not being able to beat Ohio State, but his senior year he played great against the #1 ranked Buckeyes but his defense gave up 42.

    Also he lost to USC in the Rose Bowl that year.
     
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  33. Rocky Raccoon

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    Highly doubt it. You can't cut a second round pick after his rookie season. I didn't like the pick at all but you got to give him a chance with some experience under his belt to help this team in some form.
     
  34. NJFINSFAN1

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    Henne brought us back time after time in the 4th quarter and I can't help but think we win today if his bell wasn't rung.

    Saying a guy with 13 games can't win the big one is plain silly. I guess the Colts should have cut Manning after the first year, Cowboys should have cut Aikman his first year:pity:
     
  35. Rick 1966

    Rick 1966 Professional Hipshooter

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    I agree, but I don't think we can afford to keep him as the number two QB. Maybe he can play special teams?
     
  36. Samphin

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    Actually, yeah, I had a brainfart...He went 1-3 in Bowl Games. So there goes my argument! I am thinking of someone else, but can't, for the life of me, figure out who. :lol:

    Whatever, I still stand by Henne.
     
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  37. BigDogsHunt

    BigDogsHunt Enough talk...prove it!

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    Pat White went undefeated in 4 BOWL games (NCAA RECORD)
     
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  38. Striking

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    Good lord. 7-6 in his first year with several 4th quarter comebacks. Yeah, I can see how that would be proof positive we need to upgrade at QB.
     
  39. Samphin

    Samphin Κακό σκυλί ψόφο δεν έχει

    Maybe that is it then. Must have transposed that stat over to Henne. Thanks BDH! ONE OF MY FAVORITEST POSTERS EVAR! (NOW you have to start over...)
     
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  40. BigDogsHunt

    BigDogsHunt Enough talk...prove it!

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    :tantrum:(dang it)
     

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