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Do we draft a QB this year?

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by shaunm000, Jan 5, 2010.

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  1. shaunm000

    shaunm000 Well-Known Member

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    After reading Armando's blog, it kinda got me thinking....

    If we get to the 3rd, 4th round and Tim Tebow ( I am not a Gator fan, nor a Tebow fan) is still around, do we take him? Hes a spread/option/wildcat type of guy. Why not take a chance and see what he can do? Im only bringing up this point because this article suggests we take another QB. Im not in favor of drafting a QB this year, i think we need to rebuild our D and get a WR in there.

    Thoughts?

    http://miamiherald.typepad.com/dolp...olphins-2010-starting-qb-has-to-be-henne.html
     
  2. SeanP

    SeanP Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I sure hope someone other than the Jags takes him. No offense to anyone who likes the Jags, but I do not want to see them get a ticket infusion, I want to see that team move. I'm tired of not being able to see the phins here in Orlando.

    I'd be less upset though if Tebow prevents them from being blacked out. It's just a total waste of our market here, we get no football whatsoever on one channel at 1:00, and the other channel has the Bucs.

    Oh, so back on topic...

    I don't think I'd do the investment honestly. We've got 2 players that can do what Tebow does in Thigpen, and White. They may not be as good as him, but to burn a draft pick in anything earlier than the 6th round, on a player that might see 3-5 downs a game, and is probably only a moderate improvement over Thigpen (based on his Steelers performance), I think would be a waste. And for sure he will not fall to the 6th round.
     
  3. phineas64

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    Generally a good idea to draft qb 's late and develop them regularly. Two things though, IMO:

    I don't think Tebow is going to be a quality NFL qb. I may be way off base, but while his leadership is unquestionably good, his accuracy and decision making/route progressions are not. We already have a spread/WC guy, having two on the roster for at best a part time job is wasteful of draft picks, esp 2/3/4 rounds. Lots of people think using the one last year was a waste. Not sure about that myself, but two would be at least one too many.

    We have so many other needs that are more pressing - NT, WR, LB, FS in no particular order. We could use the whole draft on those alone and I would be OK with it. We are pretty deep at qb, assuming all of the injured recover fully. Don't forget, ChadP still wants to play. Having Penny, Henne, Thigpen as 3 qbs is pretty strong no matter which way they stack them. Add PW, and it's maybe even an overstocked position. Def if you draft another someone is gone. We have better places to spend the picks.
     
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  4. shaunm000

    shaunm000 Well-Known Member

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    Living in Orlando myself, i totally agree with you on him not going to the Jags.

    However, what if he had value as a player that can be developed as a QB and then maybe a TE or blocking back? Lets throw PW not making it back into the equation, then we still need a 3rd QB. What about then?
     
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  5. Eop05

    Eop05 Junior Member Club Member

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    Normally I'd agree with Armando as drafting a QB can have a big ROI. But this year i'd say no as who wouldve ever thought QB would be last on our list of priorities. First time in a loooong time


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  6. JMHPhin

    JMHPhin Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    alot depends on fa, draft availability.

    henne and thigpen give us our 2, white is slash, if penny re-signs, then dont think we draft a qb. if not it could happen
     
  7. the 23rd

    the 23rd a.k.a. Rio

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    maybe in the later rounds for developmental purposes, if they see something they really like

    the IceMan is the RealDeal, our unspoken Starter & Franchise QB
    w/the Thigpen hot on his heels, an excellent backup looking for a shot @ starting

    1) I expect to see Pennington brought back in the capacity of a Coaching-QB.
    they would probably have to re-open the competition to get him to bite. might be one of several reasons the TriFecta has not openly declared Henne the starter.
    2) White will have to learn to catch the ball @ the Slot or WR to stick.
    he will always have the potential to play as a Situational-QB in the non-conventional sets or trick plays. he's a keeper, just not a Pro-Set QB in the NFL.

    that's my take on it & it all looks good to me: Competition is the Elixir of Success!
     
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  8. Phin-o-rama

    Phin-o-rama Well-Known Member

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    tebow > pat white though
     
  9. PHINANALYST

    PHINANALYST Well-Known Member

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    i don't see any situation that we draft a QB this year ....

    Henne is our guy,

    Thigpen has talent,

    with the wildcard being White ... assuming he recovers (no reason he wouldn't), the FO still holds out hope for his talent

    IF we were to pick up a QB this go around, it would be a clear indication that either:

    - we are trading Thigpen (which i doubt)

    - the FO is already declaring White a wasted pick (which i also doubt - as i believe they were truly counting on him for this year - not last).
     
  10. DolfanTom

    DolfanTom Livin' and Dyin' w/ Ryan!

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    Maybe it's just me, but I see Tebow as a Dallas Clark in waiting. Not sure if he'd see it that way, but if a team could convince him to become a receiving threat tight end (not sure how much blocking you could expect out of him, though I'm sure he'd try), unless he has stone hands for some unknown reason, I think he'd excel there.

    For that reason I'd pick him up if it were in the fifth round or later.
     
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  11. DolfanTom

    DolfanTom Livin' and Dyin' w/ Ryan!

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    As for Henne, he's the guy, everyone else, get in line. I'm fine with Thigpen being second fiddle and let's use the third spot for a real development project (remember, Tom Brady was once a third string QB!). Pat White is a waste at QB, I mean, come on. He showed that on Sunday. Still want to see what he could do in the slot, though. Otherwise, why is he on the team??
     
  12. JimToss

    JimToss Thank You Chad Pennington

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    The Miami Dolphins are required to spend a second round draft pick in some way shape or form to acquire a quarterback each year.
    Goodell declared it.
     
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  13. Nappy Roots

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    Tebow is slower and smaller then Dallas Clark, not sure why you see him as him in waiting..

    also, drafting a QB in the 6th or 7th is always welcomed.
     
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    the 23rd a.k.a. Rio

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    the ice man, the thigpen & pennington returns, w/ white @ slot/wr
    outside chance 4 a late round qb is always possible but improbable
     
  15. gunn34

    gunn34 I miss Don & Dan

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    I'm with you. Even the Governor is trying to get Jax to pick him in the 1st round.

    If White isn't back I would support that as a late pick.


    It's part of the Brady rule. :up:
     
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  16. DolfanTom

    DolfanTom Livin' and Dyin' w/ Ryan!

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    Drafting is better than trading 2nd round picks for them I guess :sad: Wow, in some way or another, we've been giving up 2nd round picks for QBs for years now. Thankfully, we got at least one of them right!

    Smaller, a bit, but slower? Not sure about that - Tebow can run just fine, and would be above average for an NFL TE IMO. To me, Tebow is the perfect size for a receiving TE - like Clark, bigger than a WR, but can still run very well.

    Also, I just don't think he has what it takes to play QB at a high level, so to use his athletisism, I figure he has to go somewhere else, and where else would he be a good fight other than TE maybe?
     
  17. NJFINSFAN1

    NJFINSFAN1 Premium Member Luxury Box

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    While there is a chance penny returns because he like being in Florida, the competitive side of the guy tells me he will go where he has a chance to start.

    I could see a late round draft choice at QB, a guy like John Skelton from Fordham if he lasts.
     
  18. Frumundah Finnatic

    Frumundah Finnatic U Mad Miami?

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    Tim Tebow would be a better fit for the Wildcat then Pat White would be.

    However his mechanics are awful and his instinct is to run after his initial reads, that wont fly in the NFL where the defenders are bigger and faster.
     
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  19. jetssuck

    jetssuck I hear Mandich's voice...

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    First of all, no way Tebow is there in the late rounds.....

    And secondly, we have our starter, a solid back up in Thigpen that we just used a 5th rounder on.....and Pat White, that we just used a 2nd rounder on. Even if I get my wish and White ends up at WR, we can still use him as our #3 QB and save a roster spot.

    I can't see why we would use even a 7th rounder on a QB.....

    As far as using a later round pick on a developmental/ future trade bait QB, we just did that with Thigpen. Only we drafted him before the actual draft...

    Round 1- ?

    Round 2- ?

    Round 3- ?

    Round 4- ?

    Round 5- Thigpen

    Round 6- ?

    Round 7- ?
     
  20. SeanP

    SeanP Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I can see where you're coming with that thought, but even if White can't come back (which from the looks of it, he will be back), that still leaves us with Henne to start, and Thigpen to backup/spread. Having a 3rd guy is great, sure, but there if we have to plan for contingencies where we lose 2 QBs to injury, I think we'll be more concerned with just having a warm body play QB, and definitely not grooming someone like Tebow.

    With the rules in the NFL the way they are, to lose your starting QB for a season is now fairly unlikely. To lose your backup, and your starter... well, the football gods just kicked you in the crotch and spit on you in that case.

    I just don't see any way he falls to the 4th round. Because I believe pretty strongly we'll be picking NT, WR, and LB within those first 3, and probably even if he's still on the board, Safety in the 4th.
     
  21. LandShark13

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    It all depends on who is available when we pick. QB wasn't our top priority when we drafted Dan but he fell into our laps. So if someone special falls to us I wouldn't be surprised in the least if they went that route.
     
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    the 23rd a.k.a. Rio

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    look for the return of Pennington as a coaching QB
    w/ word service @ least given to open competition
     
  23. finfaninilinois

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    ah yes Mike Kafka is relativly unknown and could get him in the later rounds - he's gonna be good.....northwestern QB
     

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