Bess isn't "slow" he just doesn't have a top gear so to speak. He'll outrun you while you're getting to your top gear, but once you get there it's over for him.
Have to admit, I don't think anyone in the league is faster than Ginn when it comes to getting out of bounds or hitting the deck when opposing players are within 5 yards of him
I think he is very slow. He is quick laterally but he can't separate from anyone when the ball is in his hands. Half of the linebackers are as fast as he is.
He seperated from the Ravens on that big catch in the playoffs last year. If he was that slow he would never get open.
Let's hog tie Ginn, and drag him to Mexico dangling from a rope off the back of a pickup truck. Then we'll cut out his kidneys, and leave him for dead in a pile chicken **** behind the local **** fighting arena. DIE GINN DIE!!! Thats the answer!
If you watch that clip he never pulls away from the linebackers chasing after him. On that play he just had perfect cutback lanes, which suited him perfectly but he didn't pull away from anyone. He gets open because he is quick, not because he's fast.
On a post you don't get open because you're quick. A corner will stick with you like glue, which if I'm not mistaken that route was. He isn't blazing fast, but he has good acceleration which allows him to beat you from the start. And yes, he is quick.
there is fast and there is quick. bess is quick, ginn is fast as weird as it sounds bess is both slow and quick. he has fantastic quick twitch muscles which allow him to stop and start faster than almost anyone. however in a straight line he's probably slower than 80% of the secondary which can be seen anytime he's sent deep
I disagree, you gotta cut quickly to get open on a post. Bess is quick and runs good routes, this is why he gets open. Speed and quickness both are not a necessity for getting open, however having both is simply a luxury (Percy Harvin comes to mind). They say if you put together Ginn and Bess together, you'd have a top notch receiver... I would agree with that..
Which is why he is so damned good against zones, imo, and not as good against man coverage. Especially press man coverage. Give him a bunch of spaces and he can dart between them nicely to make catches, but if he is gonna try to outrun you stride for stride, he's cooked. I think Camarillo is better against man coverage than Bess, even on short and intermediate routes, because Camarillo's route-running is even crisper and has sharper angled cuts than even Bess does.
It was a quick pass behind the line of scrimmage. Watch the play and see how he never seperates from the linebacker (#57). The cuts he makes are great but i think if he was running in a straight line then the linebacker would have caught him. http://www.nfl.com/videos/miami-dolphins/09000d5d80de49fd/Davone-Bess-Highlight-WK-18-vs-Ravens-2008
Yeah, it was a good block by Ginn (or is it London, too blurry to tell for me) and a nice move by Bess to make two or three guys miss. I wouldn't say his speed made the play, but his quick cuts... He was not out running those linebackers chasing him by any means.
