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Spider-Man 4 is no more. Sony rebutting franchise

Discussion in 'TV, Music and Movies' started by Dol-Fan Dupree, Jan 11, 2010.

  1. Dol-Fan Dupree

    Dol-Fan Dupree Tank? Who is Tank? I am Guy Incognito.

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    http://movies.ign.com/articles/106/1060055p1.html

    Wow, I am surprised. I hope the new guys do a good job.
     
  2. Jaydog57

    Jaydog57 Canes/Fins/Magic fan

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    Maybe they'll make it a little darker, like the Batman series.
     
  3. MikeHoncho

    MikeHoncho -=| Censored |=-

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    I was getting sick of Maguire's puckered crying face every other scene.
     
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  4. Lab3003

    Lab3003 Golden era

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    SP3 should've been awesome but there was too much going on with the plot. It go too convoluted with the Sandman and the alien costume and the Green Goblin...too much. If they focused on how the alien costume is power that corrupts the soul and they left out the other villians, would've been a MUCH better film.

    Maybe they could create a totally new plotline for the 4th movie? A new villian?

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  5. Firesole

    Firesole Season Ticket Holder

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    seems way too soon for a reboot.
     
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  6. Lab3003

    Lab3003 Golden era

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    Word


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  7. Phins28

    Phins28 Up the Irons

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    No more emo Parker!
     
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  8. FinSane

    FinSane Cynical Dolphins Fan

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    This.

    I was ok with the multiple villians/story plots, but once emo Peter Parker appeared, I walked out of the movie theater.
     
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  9. Pauly

    Pauly Season Ticket Holder

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    Spidey 3 was just an exercise inb seeing how much stuff they could throw on the screen.

    They should leave spidey dude alone for a few years before doing a re-boot though.
     
  10. Ray Finkle

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    No, no, no, no. Not everything has to be darker to be good. Spiderman 1 and 2 were very good and weren't dark. There's no reason to have a dark Spiderman as he isn't a dark character, same with Superman. Just because it works for Batman doesn't mean it works for every comic character. Batman is a much different character and his world is dark by nature.

    The problem with Spiderman 3 was like Pauly said they overkilled it in terms characters, especially with the villians. None of them got a lot of time to develop and grow and they ruined possibly the coolest villain in Venom by a poor casting choice and poor storyline that was never paid off. Plus they made stupid decisions like have Peter Parker emo or having the Sandman tie into Uncle Ben. If they only focused on one villian and possibly Harry's final turn it would have been a much better film.

    They should have had Eddie Brock in it as a very minor character and the ending should of had Brock being covered in the black goo, then fall to the ground out of the picture frame and the last image is Venom jumped at the camera and the credits would roll. That way it gives the announce a scare and sets up a 4th movie.
     
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  11. Vengeful Odin

    Vengeful Odin Norse Mod

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    Reading the stories on Slash Film and Aint It Cool, both seem to think this will center on Peter Parker in high school. Not sure how many of you are familiar with the Ultimates line of Marvel comics, but the rumor is that's the basic frame of the story that they will follow.

    I know that Green Goblin was an early character in those books, but considering he was part of this first series of movies, I suspect they'll go with someone different.

    For the record, I think this is a huge mistake by both Marvel and Universal. The reason that we got such a convoluted Spider-Man 3 was because the studio insisted upon the insertion of Venom, a character Raimi flat out admitted he didn't really care for. Had that movie focused simply on the Sandman, it would have been much, much better. I'm scared that this new reboot will try to go down the same road of cramming in as many characters as possible.
     
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  12. Ray Finkle

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    Yeah I think that's a mistake as well. I mean Spiderman 1 came out in 2002 and had his high school back story, what more could they possible go into to make it interest? They don't need to reboot the franchise, especially after only 8 years since the original. There are still plenty of stories and characters they can use to make the films good again. This would be a pretty big mistake. The franchise isn't stale like the Batman franchise was, it just had a bad movie that's all.
     
  13. Jaydog57

    Jaydog57 Canes/Fins/Magic fan

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    Sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry. I didn't think Spiderman 2 was that good, imo. And yeah, SM3 was a damn train wreck.

    The Spiderman characters (more from the 'Amazing Spiderman' series than the 'Peter Parker, Spectacular Spiderman' series)from the late 70's to mid 80's had lots of dramatic tones in them. Parker was an unhappy guy who could never catch a break in or out of costume. The gift of all his added abilities was more of a double edged sword that seemed a bit more realistic to me. Raimi used a hint of those characteristics in his movies, but he toned it down quite a bit.
     
  14. Ray Finkle

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    But that doesn't mean they have to make him or the movie darker. People hated emo Peter in SM3 and that only lasted for 10 minutes or so. Do you think people would want to sit through a 2 plus hour movie with him feeling sorry for himself? Plus those traits/storyline doesn't equal dark to me, it's just part of growing up which they covered pretty well in SM2 with him trying to decide if he still wants to be SM, having balance in his life and him having trouble with his powers etc.

    I just don't think the character works as a dark character or by having a dark story. But that's everyones solution now when a bad movie comes out as part of a franchise, they automatically say let's either make it darker and/or reboot it. Darker doesn't work for just any character. They have a good hero and core chracters they just need a better script and better direction with the next film.
     
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  15. DrAstroZoom

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    Man, I hope this isn't yet another origin story.
     
  16. Jaydog57

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    I guess I'm more of a fan of the 'tortured soul' characterization. Which ever direction they go with it, I just hope they do a better job than with the last one.
     
  17. Dol-Fan Dupree

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    That was also some of the least liked Spiderman comic books.
     
  18. Jaydog57

    Jaydog57 Canes/Fins/Magic fan

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    I guess I just have ****ty taste in comics.:shifty:
     
  19. Silverphin

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    I wonder if they will cast Topher Grace as Spider-Man. I couldn't help but see Peter Parker in him whenever his character on That 70's Show (Eric) mouths off a smart-alleck comment.
     
  20. jetssuck

    jetssuck I hear Mandich's voice...

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    Topher Grace weighs 109 pounds, fully clothed... :shifty:
     
  21. Vengeful Odin

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    Considering he was Eddie Brock (Venom) in the third movie, I find this to be highly unlikely.
     
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  22. Ray Finkle

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    If the rumors are true and it's going to be a reboot I bet we'll get stuck with one of the Jonahs brothers or Zach Efron. Actually I could see them casting the kid from the Transformer movies.
     
  23. gunn34

    gunn34 I miss Don & Dan

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    PLEASE no!!!!
     
  24. Ray Finkle

    Ray Finkle Member

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    Haha I agree.
     
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  25. DrAstroZoom

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    Watch Michael Cera get cast.
     
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  26. Silverphin

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    You will NEVER, EEEEEEVEEEER, say that again.
     
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  27. Silverphin

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    As opposed to Spider-Man who was... oh, right, 109 pounds with his suit on..
     
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  29. Jaydog57

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    The Twilight dude? Oh man, if he's in it, the producers are going to want to 'chick flick' the hell outta that movie. :pity:
     
  30. Silverphin

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    Spider-Man Rebooted: Peter Parker Sparkles.
     
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  31. ILPhinFan88

    ILPhinFan88 Premium Member Luxury Box

    It's Official! Marc Webb to Direct Spider-Man!

    Marc Webb, the director of the Golden Globe-nominated Best Picture (500) Days of Summer, will direct the next chapter in the Spider-Man franchise, set to hit theaters summer 2012, it was jointly announced today by Columbia Pictures and Marvel Studios.

    Written by James Vanderbilt, Webb will work closely with producers Avi Arad and Laura Ziskin in developing the project, which will begin production later this year.

    Commenting on the announcement, Amy Pascal, co-chairman of Sony Pictures Entertainment, and Matt Tolmach, president of Columbia Pictures, said, "At its core, Spider-Man is a small, intimate human story about an everyday teenager that takes place in an epic super-human world. The key for us as we sought a new director was to identify filmmakers who could give sharp focus to Peter Parker's life. We wanted someone who could capture the awe of being in Peter's shoes so the audience could experience his sense of discovery while giving real heart to the emotion, anxiety, and recklessness of that age and coupling all of that with the adrenaline of Spider-Man's adventure. We believe Marc Webb is the perfect choice to bring us on that journey."


    http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=62499
     
  32. Silverphin

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    Should I be hopeful then?
     

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