Do you guys see Miami drafting Jimmy Graham the TE from the U? He seems like a freak and fits the mold but has only played for 1 yr and from waht I understand MIami coaching staffs have been to many of his practices to watch him and also know that the FO does not like players that haven't played all 4 yrs evne though thtye consider some 3 yr players but this guy doesn't even have 2 yrs. what are you thoughts? and what round after combine? 2-3? or 4-5 due to lack of experience? I think potential alone wil shoot him up.
They might ET7, keep in mind they just drafted a Te prospect in John Nalbone, so they may not wish to bring in another project. And Graham won't come cheaply, he is so athletic someone will use a #4 on him, and that could be a NT for us.
ET...it depends. He blocks pretty well and has decent hands, great size. But he's not basketball to football mover like Antonio Gates and he's raw and mechanical in his route running. And I wouldn't pay too much heed to rumours about whether the Dolphins have been to multiple Hurricane practices to see him specifically. I'm sure they HAVE watched him but there's a lot of prospects there and I'm not sure we would be making such a fuss if he wasn't a Cane and we weren't a Miami Dolphin site.
I could see the Dolphins drafting him, absolutely. His growth rate has been incredible considering he just picked up a football this year. By the end of the year he was outperforming other TEs all around the NCAA. Listen to him speak and you know he's very, very smart...so it doesn't look so out of sorts that he could take such a meteoric rise within such a short time. The fact that he can block a DE like J.J. Watt all the way out to the sideline on a stretch play, and finish off by burying the guy in the turf, will absolutely intrigue Miami because they want a guy they can trust on the line. They say "be an athlete". He was one of the best shot blockers in UM history. This isn't just taking some bench warmer basketball player and giving him a shot at football. I'm very high on him. Third round, maybe higher depending on how he acquits himself at the Senior Bowl, how he takes to the coaching. Oh, and about that coaching? Miami will be the ones doing that coaching, so they'll have a front and center view.
is that sarcasm regarding #4? like 1st round pick number 4? Boomer and CK thx for the info. I do believe the SR Bowl wil make them fall for a gu like Weatherspoon, Williams or this guy and cause em to reach a tiny bit due to it. I just don't see them going NT in the first 3 rounds honestly. as for Nailbone, i dont put stock in him at all b/c if you recall they did cut him a few weeks ago so fi he was that high on their list they wouldn't have done that.
That JJ Watt block was terrific. A beasting. Don't sleep on Weatherspoon being our pick as an ILB in the 3-4.
We would need him to slid though, he is not a #12 type of pick, and he should be gone by #43. Is he? "If" they are seeing Carl Banks jr he would be worth the #12. He tweets an awful lot.. SeanWSpoon12 on twitter.
Why is he not a 12? 4 year starter, very sudden, one of the best 2 or 3 cover 'backers in the draft. Fast, good tackler, hits very hard. Someone's going to get a hell of a player.
Need more of a playmaker, wouldn't mind him or Thomas or Hughes, nothing in his past suggests he will be Carl Banks jr...though he could be.
I think with the amount of times we've thrown his name around, it shouldn't surprise anyone. What has it been a good 6 weeks?
Weatherspoon makes plays. And he makes them in reverse. Good as Hughes is, I don't see him getting in the grill of Ben Watson and running 40 yards downfield with him.
What, that we've been throwing his name around? Is is that long? . Even the sun shines on dogs asss sometimes.
I will be AMAZED if Weatherspoon is there at 43. Amazed. Day 1 starter and immediate defensive leader who plays all 3 downs. He will go into the pros and become one of the best coverage linebackers the day he signs his contract. And that's not even the best thing he does. Very, very safe pick.
Difficult one to call mate. Obviously his best position is at WLB in a 4-3 but I think he could play ILB in a 3-4. But what I think and what Jeff thinks....they might have eliminated him totally from the reckoning because they think he's only a 4-3 guy.
Most mock drafts have Weatherspoon going in the first round. But then again, everyone had Maulagua going in the first round. Even Sintim was projected into the first round and he fell to the second round.
Scott Wright has Graham as the 6th-best TE this draft; the combine is going to be huge for Jimmy in terms of how he rises or falls eventually. At 6'8" and a very athletic 260, he runs a 4.65 (unofficially) and has soft hands for a TE. I don't believe he makes it down anywhere near the 4th round.
I think he's one of those guys that gets pushed down a little due to the junior entering the draft. They may push him down a touch. We'll see.
I think with Graham Nabo, he has 1 yr experience at Te, the NFL player acquisition system does not like spending precious higher draft picks on a player who is a project (though Sparano/Ireland differ slightly in that). I've seen some drafts showing Piere-Paul going to us at #13, that simply won't happen, he is one year out of JUCO, with one year of film on him, he ends up going off in, at best, the late second round. Point to Antonio Gates, the deal with him was he was a UDFA, there was serious investment in him, if he flamed out the Bolts were out some cash, if they had drafted him and he stunk they were out the draft choice.
The thing is Ash, that's not true. Not anyone can drop. And Weatherspoon doesn't drop. He covers. There's a massive difference.
Watching that appalling Philadelphia LBing corp last night, even with the return of Stewart Bradley, Philly strikes me as a very likely landing spot for him.
He's OK. Missouri's defense asks him to do a great deal and sometimes rushing the passer gets lost. Because he covers so well, he perhaps doesn't rush as much as you'd like, but he's not bad. He tends to blitz rather than just line up on edge and rush the passer and he's not blessed with an array of rush moves.
Would drafting a guy like Weatherspoon diminish the need to draft an OLB with the ability to drop back? And how is he at stopping the run? or rather would he improve the Dolphins run defense? Also I was wondering what you thought about Travis Lewis as a prospect?
he could slip to around 25-30 if Travis Lewis declares. on the flip-side, if Lewis stays, Weatherspoon just might go top 15.
I still fail to see why we even run the 3-4 anymore. Every year the number of players that come out that can actually cover in the 3-4 is less and less. I could field a defense of Witherspoon, Angerer, and Edds with my first three picks and blanket any son of a ***** tight end or RB with that trio, yet we'd ignore that because we run our glorious 3-4?
When you have the personnel to run the 3-4 it's an amazing defense. But it's very unforgiving if you don't have the right people. You especially need a great DT (which we have in Ferguson) and a great set of LB's (Which we don't have.) JP and JT are very good OLB/DE pass rusher types but they don't compliment each other well as well as they are near the end of their careers. And Channing Crowder and Akin Ayodele are mediocre. And considering the LB's are the heart of the 3-4 you can't have a situation like this and maintain a top defense. I think at minimum we need to let Joey Porter go, move JT to the weak side and get new starters at OLB and ILB. What do the draftniks think of this idea though?
That is what I am hoping for. I think it is time that the Phins have a steal like we grew accustomed to- Zach Thomas 5th Round Jason taylor 3rd Round Patrick Surtain and Sam Madison both 2nd Rouders This is what the Dolphins have not been finding lately and we need to. I am not Saying Shaun Smith will not be as good as Patrick Surtain because he could be but I want a guy drafted in the 2-5th round to become an absolute stud. And I also hope this guy is a linebacker because we sorely need a playmaker at that position.
Zach Thomas was indeed a steal, but Donald Thomas might turn out to be a steal as well. JTs 1st and 3rd year were pretty much nothing special. In fact if JT was the 9th overall pick in the draft, I'd have to imagine people would've been calling for his head worse than Ginn after JTs 3rd year (as JT appeared to regress dramatically, at least statistically). Surtain and Madison weren't anything special as rookies either really. Heck Surtain really didn't catch on until his 3rd year. I think some people need to just give our players time to develop before writing them off.
