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the new england fins ....they have alot of our players
beck struggled big time , out of all the rookie qb's he was by far the worst , let's hope get's better for our sake.
dan connor.....isnnt that rosane's husband ?
he is no worse than wanny guarantee that
DOSEN'T PARCELLS QUIT ALL THE TIME AS WELL ?
TAMPA'S LINE IS AWFUL WHY IS THIS GUY THE LEAD CANDIDATE ?
it all depends on the senior bowl and the combine then we will have a more painted picture to see who goes where and how high.
the luck of the patriots , but sooner than later it will run out
i don't know if u realized it but crowder is slow
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ben utech is pretty decent nice size
i don't like wasting pics i mean we should have kept chambers if we were going to trade for vets rather than groom our own...you keep the pics and...
crowder is a borderline starter and so is hadnot ..jury is out on beck but dosen't look good
dorsey was getting some double teams in passing situations he did get some pentration
i wouldnt give up jt for anderson straight up
it is karma for the 03 Miami game in which the canes were cheated out of the championship
chambers was having his best year by far before we traded him
ricky has no trade value
hey it might work....i haVE A WEAKNESS for the shaking of the stuff ...lol
tony dungy , john gruden , dick vermil, don shula , these guys went on to win superbowls
dosen't rucker look really thin to be a tight -end ?
you should be able to hire whomever you want afterall it is "your " business
we should trade down in day 2 some to aqire more fish
brennan is an an outstanding qb you are a dis-beliver because you have never watched a full game
if you want to hear the truth beck had two td's the first came on adrive in which he threw 3 yard passes to lo. booker and booker made things...
well when travis johnson was laughing at a knocked out trent green crowder said he dosen't blame travis he would have done the same thing....
no big loss there , don't want a guy who doesn't have his teammates back.
i agree get the younger guys not the old ones i could see if we were on the verge of making a run at the super bowl but we are not so keep em...
i agree about starks but i don't see Toledo hitting the field, he is to injury prone what will this be his 3rd or fourth year ?
that 2003 draft was a monster draft
the first thing parcells should do is solidify the offensive- line, so at least the offense can protect whoever the QB is next year, that way we...
rather have a 6-4 marino or any qb who was on drew's level but taller
his touchdown was a 1 yard qb sneak in a meaningless game the other came when the game was over in a meaningless game ....like a preseason game.
i've been waiting for keith armstrong's departure for the longest time.
he threw little 3 yard passes to booker,that booker turned ino nice gains. and had a qb sneak for a yard, and had a good drive with 2 minutes...
Height: 6-3 Weight: 216 Age: 53
Born: 11/3/1954 Lebanon , KY
College: Morehead State
Experience: 14 Seasons steve...
justin tuck played well against the patriots roth was drafted before him.
can "you' contest it ...no my thoughts are supported by becks play
everyone wants to believe in beck, he does have a good arm, but he is short, and is not ready, going on 27 years of age with minimal experience =...
they have jason rivers rated higher but i like devon bess a lot
i remember saban saying that he wished every guy on the team worked as hard as ricky did in practices etc...........but the tuna is a no nonsese...
chambers had a better rookie year with fiedler
lol thats funny ...........ohh...LOL
i like ocho cinco ..but your wrong about parcells he didn't want T.O. there jerry j. did. i honestly believe bill quit because of T.O.
i never liked the roth pick i did love the crowder pick though but now i see that crowder is garbage too, plus i lost a lot of respect for the guy...
him and porter prolly bunk together
MATT ROTH : another under achiever ....two reasons why matt roth will ride the bench 1. no speed off the edge 2. not enough power to bull rush =...
so your saying cleo lemon is as good as jake plummer ? yeah... i think you might be right ...because trent green won't be here (scrambled...
bill's rough on the kickers if they fudge up. lol
just a name to throw out there....jake plummer
a lot of people knock gruden he did inherit a good "DEFENSIVE " team with the bucs and won a super bowl with them, but a lot of people seem to...
i second that
you can win an lose in the draft sometimes it's a crap shoot
mario williams should of made the pro bowl but other than Mario there hasn't really been any really good prospects till this year with chris long...
so he was 65 -15....is that correct ...very impressive
i agree with them all but i'd like to throw in channing crowder as on the hot seat
everbody thinks he is a bad *** cause he ran through drywall on youtube and said ahhhh i'm the juggernaut.
and your one of those guys that has an eye for talent like me
that is so funny to me because alot of the mock draft sites that i have seen have hester as the second or third best fullback in this draft . if...
i also remember channing crowder saying he dosen't blame travis johnson for talking smack to trent green why he was uncounsious . i always thought...
that's true but there is nothing we can do about it we live in a world that keeps getting worse every year with violence, sex, pregnancy they way...
don't buy much into they both went to Arkansas so did cleo lemon .
i don't see that happening that would be worse than the #2 we gave for aj feely
the purpose of offense is to get yards and try and score points jacob hester is a fullback if you read the article it says hester can do it all ....
idk about that welker had like 60 something catches and he wasn't always on the field but we were more than a welker away from being a threat to...
Keep this thread on topic please.
true true ..and it's not mr. h's fault it was mr muller's fault those guys are gone. just imagine what chambers would do for the pat's.
right.. right ...i should be promoted !! plummer is great at play action....and guess what the best part is ? he is better than the lemon but i...
maybe they work beck into the game ....but i do agree with you
half of those sacks were the lemons fault
i don't mean to be a smart ***, but when has beck moved the ball down the field ? i mean a completion here or there doesn't really constitute as...
hagan, now that's funny, how many would be drops out of those 80 catches ?
when you say bullfrog do you mean will allen because , he was the best player in our secondary this year
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In his first two seasons at LSU, Hester ran for 237 yards and two touchdowns, while adding 13...
what about jake plummer
i like the orange too ..i'm all for those navy blue one's i think the navy blue should be a permanent part of the uni's
cheaters never win ....well that analogy seems to be false.
and we are way off from where they are right now.
i don't think i could take lemon for another season
that's the point i'm trying to make he is not an athlete the only thing he will be able to do is block he can't run with the ball he can't catch...
idk about that i just don't see beck as anything more than a career back-up
why because everything i said was true ? if it is not then make a legit argument . he is skinny, he is small ,and he hasn't led us down the field...
yeah but that dosent make you a good football player. if that were the case then we should get the rock or maybe rampage jackson.
If parcells thinks lemon is the man then he should start packing his bags now because lemon is not a winner ....period.
u must know zip about talent because if you want to pick top 1-5 every year then cleo is your man. cleo is not the ticket what games have you been...
i don't think any team is stupid enough to give up that much for one player ....wait a minute we did! for sticky ricky
tight ends take a year or two to develop look at vernon davis
a 27 year old quarterback who hasn't won 1 nfl game ...i'm thinking about trying out for the fins next year. if that's our future
i don't think maui is a good fullback but the somoans are tight with their families and right now the dolphins are his family
where did you read that i am confused now .
everyone wants to believe in beck : the truth is, he is skinny as a rail, almost a midget who couldn't move the offense down the field at all. his...
parcells likes big sit in the pocket qb's he will not draft brennan although i love brennan an we will not take a qb #1 overall i'd bet big on it.
does anybody know if we will get any kind of comp. picks this year ? i mean it seems as if we never get any.
that's a riot ...lol......i was thinking the same thing
i would trade crowder
i personally think erik ainge has potential
it isn't as bad as you think it's the te's and rb's that miss alot of blocks but i still think we need to better starters one a guard and one at...
did you see when cleo lemon rolled out on that 4th and goal play he pumped fake the ball , and the patriots blew up the receiver i didn't see who...
travis daniels is garbage he holds all the time and if he dosen't then he gets beat big.
another example of how the pats cheat.
worrel was terrible
if you watch that play on 4th n goal where cleo puzzied out and didn't punch it in when he was rolling out and pump faked the new england defender...
yeah but he dosen't have to try and hurt our players when the play is over...cheap shots, and then act like he is a differnce maker .
you get what you put in ....and we got a lemon
lemon and cam are straight morons
junior seau is a punk hope he dosent get a ring
cleo lemon has time he just can't see the field because there are open recivers. lemon is straight garbage, and will never make it in the nfl past...
you never know girls are whores, but i'd rather see joey porter break his knee caps that would make my year.
no thanks i actually would rather have fiedler at qb than Pennington
max starks has more talent then adams and is younger
i thought the guy was going to be good and was a lil w.t fudged when saban cut him.
rucker looks small for a tight end he has height but he has a small fame ...you need a tight -end who can block
to me he looks slower than when he was in college. he gets tackled by the first guy to lay a finger on him, and he doesn't have lateral quickness,...
beck hasn't shown a glimmer of hope accept in preseason , and he is also the size of a smurf idk i just don't know
LOL..........or wait for a low tide and go pick one up
then what the hell does wediermeier do ????
yeah but i can't remember when they ever coached together to get that opinion of Garrett.
it was good compared to others but i'm still skeptical about this draft ted ginn and beck determine the fiat of this draft.
i never liked jim rome or his show but after watching that jim Everett clip i must say rome is a complete idiot why would you ask someone to come...
jake the snake plummer
parcels will get it right beck is not the future it was another squandered second round pick but we want to believe he will be good etc. in this...
lemon started to play good in the fourth quarter
i second that.........m carthon ...isn't that the dude that was defensive cordinator for the jets and was fighting with herm edwards i say no thanks.
i think the fins take Chris long and trade J.T for a second
dosen't B.C. have a good line cherilus etc.
he is slow though ....i think i seen a mock where they have us taking Paul Hubbard wr from Wisconsin in the 3rd round he is big too but i have...
why would they deal with the rams they have steven jackson ?
T.O. is a cancer too when his team is loosing it's everyone's fault but his
wait till they start loosing the true *****TO will come out he is a good player but a spoiled ignorant individual
take his knees out porter
sanders is always on t.o's jock. i personally can't stand a player like T.O. selfish me first he only cares about his own personal glorification .
i was going to mention no slowie's in the secondary i hate to see that
is this just who you want or is their a link ?
you can call it a first but it's still only a one pick difference just means the guy we pick his agent will want round 1 money. might be a holdout .
not if that's your team and you love them like i do...if i had a billion dollars i'd buy the fins
it's not going to matter you better just hope the niners keep winning because if they don't get mc fadden they could get dorsey long or...
Cameron didn't kick the ball he can't control everything
wayne was crying ?
that was mark claytons number and he was my favorite receiver ever .
IT'S LIKE THEY JUST BECAUSE YOUR BIG DOSEN'T MEAN YOU CAN FIGHT
WE WILL NEVER GET A FRANCHISE QB UNLESS WE QUIT BEING CHEAP AND PONY UP SOMETHING MORE THAN A SECOND ROUND PICK BUT I MUST ADMIT IT WOULDNT MATTER...
only in the run game we still are weak at pass defense
cam is a slap in the face
MY THOUGHT'S EXACTLY
no actually i don't porter is old those guys are younger you totally missed his point
jared allen is better than justin smith
fudge that lets kick the crap out of mr. h if they move the team
paul solai ....is a bust -should have went safety or corner.....regan maui was a reach too,heck he wasn't even going to be drafted but muller took...
I don't like the 3-4 seems that you can only draft certain types of players and have to pass on good ones because they don't fit into the 3-4 scheme
i hope they get greedy and a key plater or two is out for the playoffs
bone head plays : the miscues under center the gift wrapped fumble/interception for a td the negative -11 yards of offense. wasn't that enough in...
was tom heckert ever part of our franchise ?
i don't understand how Cleavland, Jacksonville and Tampa have more cap space than us especially tampa
dude ....an orgasm...that was funny..... laughing
i'd like to know who is conducting this study is their someone on the sidelines with a note pad or in the film room or at practice ?
dude you can either catch or you can't shouldn't matter who is throwing it hagan can't catch it's as simple as that you can teach technique but...
i agree with everything but the accuracy coming out of college beck was supposed to be the most accurate qb in the draft they talked alot about...
THEY SHOULD LET HADNOT TEST THE MARKET INSTEAD OF OVERPAYING HADNOT IS AVERAGE AT BEST
BRENNAN MIGHT BE THERE IN THE EARLY SECOND LATE FIRST
I SECOND THAT SOMEONE NEEDS TO WIPE THAT EVIL GRIN ON BRADY'S FACE ..HE..LIKE BILL CHEATERCHECK THINK THEY ARE GODS
MATT RYAN IS A TALL SLOW QB WHO HAS HAD SOME COMEBACKS IN THE 4TH QUARTER HE WOULD GET KILLED BEHIND OUR LINE OUT OF ALL THE QB'S I LIKE HIM THE...
YOU GOT IT OR YOU DON'T.... WHAT HAS HE SHOWN YOU TO SAY HE'S GOT IT ?
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TO ADD FUEL TO THE FIRE THE PATRIOTS MIGHT GO UNDEFEATED "AND" HAVE THE SECOND PICK IN THE DRAFT THESE...
FANECA IS THE BEST GUARD IN THE GAME ....WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO OVERPAY ANYONE TO GET THEM TO PLAY FOR A WINLEES TEAM O'H JAKE LONG.... DEE DEE DEE
Exactly That's Why The Patriots Win And I Hate The Patriots
We Want Him To Make The Dinner You Got To Let Him Shop For The Groucries !
AND THE TRUTH SHALL SET YOU FREE ! YOU HAVE EXERCISED THE DEMON'S....THIS HOUSE IS CLEAR..LOL....YOUR 100% RIGHT JIMMY QUIT AND LEFT STANK STACHE...
YOU HIT IT ON THE MONEY ....COACHES CAN'T MAKE THE PLAYS ON THE FIELD, BUT THEY CAN MAKE THE PLAYERS BETTER PREPARED FOR A GAME AND SMARTER IN...
Draft All Defense Use Free Agency For Offense
I'VE BEEN SAYING THAT ALL YEAR ...THAT I HOPE THEY HAVE A WE ARE MARSHALL EXPERIENCE. LOL
I'LL SIGN UP FOR THAT
TEBOW WON'T BECOME A GOOD NFL PLAYER WRITE IT DOWN TAKE A MENTAL NOTE OR WHATEVER HE IS NOT A NATURAL PASSER ............YOU WILL SEE IN A YEAR...
I Don't Think The Draft Was All That Great ...#1 Ginn...top 10 Pick 2-3 Td's And That Includes Off. And Special Teams Right Now.....c+ ...#2....
I Wouldn't Mind Jeff Fisher At All
I Think That Was The Eagles D- Coordinator J-johnson
: OT MAX STARXS....MOVE CAREY BACK TO RIGHT TACKLE
: DE JARED ALLEN .....ROTH TO THE BENCH WHERE HE...
yeah but after cowher an parcells who is there ?
the season is three games away from being over with 2-3 td's playing on offense and special teams and being a highly touted draft pick #9 overall...
If cam get's the can and we can't get cowher or parcells what would you think of rex ryan ?
what would you
What yould you think of hiring rex ryan, and letting him hand pick his staff instead of having guys like special teams coach...
So basically our qb's suck ....old news
that's great news ......if true
Did you notice that the qb's are botching a-lot of snaps this year, this has got to be a flaw somewhere in S. Satalee's game.
Out of the free agents i'd take anderson only maybe brooks maybe and out of the rookies i like brennan the best...... "a gun slinger" with accuracy.
I agree, I don't know why people say cam is an offensive genius, he uses norv turner's system, now what is the genius in that ? Id say his offense...