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Hard not to like this. Outside of QB/OL, pass rush was the one I was most concerned about.

In 2 drafts, the Bengals landed one of the best young QB’s in the NFL and one of the top 3 WR’s in the NFL, catapulting them to the super bowl....

If Miami was dumb enough to think they were a super bowl contender in year 3 of a massive rebuild with a QB who can’t stay healthy, one of the...

Sam LaPort is a college football player who opted to come back for another season.

I’m a huge Tyler Linderbaum fan so I’ll watch it to see where he ends up. Outside of that, not a lot of interest.

This thread it titled Tua is not the problem which implies any point in that context is either supporting or arguing against. The whole reason...

Hard to argue with what they’ve done this off-season. They resigned our 2nd best player, signed the best OL, hopefully made X happy traded for a...

I’m not seeing this narrative anywhere in this thread. Several people have said they hope this doesn’t come back to bite us but haven’t seen any...

Parker and a 2022 5th for a 2023 3rd per ESPN...

I think the key point is this frustration is directed at Grier more so than Tua. Can’t blame Tua for where he was picked. He’s doing everything...

Agreed. At the same time, it’s hard to trust your Gm when he whiffs on franchise QB decisions and entire drafts. I like most of the moves this...

Hopefully you’re smart enough to realize this is a western, gunslinger narrative used by the media to get ratings l. Most fans have never played...

What competitive situation were they in that they faced each other 1 vs 1? Or are you saying that in a team sport, 1 person literally beats the...

Nice try. Acting like QB play solely factored into the outcome of a game in a team sport without taking into consideration one team had one of...

You’re 100% right. Tua did a great job on defense that day! As always, spot on Watson!

I don’t think hate is the right word. I don’t know the man personally and all signs point to him that he’s a good human being. I would say...

I’m definitely singing a different tune. Now it comes down to can Tua actually play a full season and can he be good enough to lead us to a super...

I’ll be interested to see what we can get for Parker. On one hand, when he’s healthy he’s a pro bowl caliber WR. On the other hand, he’s rarely...

Very excited about this move and Armstead. Now there’s no excuses for Tua. He’s got the OL and the weapons. It’s clear McDaniel and Grier are...

My buddy who’s a Jets fan says KC wants their #4 and #10. No idea how many picks we’d have to give up to get there. Then you have to factor in...

Hearing rumors that Miami and NYJ are in trade talks with KC for Tyreke Hill. Man that would be killer if we land him!

I just saw on the Herald it’s $87.5mm with $43ish guaranteed. Also just looked at his games started over his career and he’s averaged just under...

I’m hearing 5 years $75 million for Armstead. Very happy about this signing! Let’s hope he can string together a few healthy seasons.

I worded that poorly. I was talking about LV in that instant. That’s what happens when you try and juggle too many things at once :-)

Keep hoping I’m gonna see an Armstead signing. I wonder how much of the delay is him playing the market vs medical evaluations. Even if he’s...

I mentioned them both beside they both beat us last year and we weren’t even competitive against Ten. To be fair, I think Tua was out and if so,...

There’s a lot of people inside our fanbase that don’t trust Grier or Ross to make the right decisions to turn this franchise around. Can you...

He had the 5th highest QB rating last year. He’s certainly taken his fair share of bumps and bruises but has only missed 3 games in his career...

If someone wants to discuss football or more specifically the Dolphins, what else is there to talk about? I thought the whole point of forums was...

I don’t know how you can call adding a franchise/top 5 QB getting slightly better for Denver. And the Chargers got substantially better. They...

At this point in the off-season it’s pretty clear we’ve lost ground to multiple teams. But this is what happens when Ross is your owner and your...

Hard to say. I’ve watched Linderbaum every year at Iowa and he’s one of the most dominant OL I’ve seen. I know his combine measurables weren’t...

He didn’t get benched on accident. Having said that, I’d say Austin Jackson was a bigger driver killer and one of the worst starting OL in the...

Overall I agree with your point. The only spot I’d differ is, I’d say the way Hunt played down the stretch was pretty good. I want to say the...

I think we had a lot of guys playing out of position because of Jackson’s failure as a LT. The reason Liam slid to the 2nd round is he lacks the...

Bills signing Von Miller. Guess it’s gonna be a fight for 2nd/3rd place.

With the rules so skewed towards offense, especially pass interference calls, I think you need to give both teams a chance to score in OT...

I’m coming around on Williams. Sounds like maybe he was benched because of penalties and then finished the season starting. Really was hoping...

Hard to say. Iowa had a G that couldn’t even crack the starting lineup that was rated top 10 for most of the season. They also had Iowa’s OL...

lol, ok

Then why did he get benched? And if he’s so good at his position, why was he penalized so much?

If you think these comments are just about this off-season or the first 2 days of FA then I’ve got some ocean front property to sell you in North...

Really underwhelming off-season for the Dolphins. Happy with Ogbah and Gesicki for one year but other than that, we’ve added a bunch of depth...

So add an average G to the worst OL and it’s fixed! Love Griers off-season plan.

On one hand I agree with you. On the other, money doesn’t change mental health disorders, depression or substance abuse issues. Now they have...

Looks like we have about $26mm left. It takes what, $8mm to sign a draft class? Doesn’t really leave much to fix the OL. Maybe restructuring X...

Cedrick Wilson a dolphins for 3 years $22.8mm

That was my problem with last years draft. I wanted Humphrey or Meinerz. I like tough, nasty OL. To me that’s Tyler Linderbaum who was a very...

I don’t share your confidence regarding the coaching and more importantly the person who makes the decision on draft picks. More importantly, if...

Grier loves signing cheap FA RB that don’t work out. Was really hoping we’d get Hall or Walker in the 2nd.

We just signed Chase Edmonds for 2 year $12.6mm

One of the most important FA signings we needed this off-season. Now let’s go get a T/G and try to give Tua/this offense some time.

Sounds like Dolphins and Ogbah did a $32mm guarantee(4 year, $65mm) deal. Very happy with that!

That and $90mm guaranteed over the next 3 years. If we were one player away and had the cap, I’d be all over it. Since we’re nowhere near one...

Miami falling even further behind in the AFC. Maybe we’ll make a super bowl sometime in the 2030’s. Great trade for Denver.

Explain to me how having a 7 time all-pro would be “bad” over a guy who was a serviceable #3 WR?

Certainly not a small receiver who was afraid of contact in the B10. You had Pat Willis there who I wanted, Revis, Timmons and plenty of good...

I’m not upset with a tag. Resign Ogbah, extend Howard/Wilkins, go sign Armstead and maybe Tomlinson. Draft another WR at 29 and then find a RB...

Not worth the #9 pick and no one who watched him in college besides his parents thought so. Another dumb decision in a long line of dumb...

All I know is Linderbaum is a tough SOB and one of the best OL I’ve seen at Iowa. A very good HS wrestler he’s got a nastiness about him....

Unfortunately Chris Grier traded us out of the Tyler Linderbaum sweepstakes. Would love to see him in a fins uniform but doubt he’ll be there.

Personally, I’d rather trade back vs trade up. Depending on how Tua progresses, we might need both of those picks next year to get a QB....

I mean Tua was injured, Parker was injured, Davis was injured, Howard/Jones were both banged up/injured plus we were starting 4 rookies all the...

Can’t really blame players. Make your money and protect your brain/health long term.

I could definitely get behind this. I think our best path forward is taking our good defense and making it elite and trying to get our OL to...

I think the key takeaway is you can’t always rely on 1st round picks to hit. My biggest knock on Grier outside of Tua over Herbert, is he really...

It’s saying video unavailable.

Very easy to do so when you have one of the best OL’s in the NFL. I don’t believe in drafting RB’s higher than the 2nd round. If Walker or...

Yeah, they’ve got one of the best QB’s and WR’s in the league. Now they need to build a wall and let them wreck defenses.

Running the ball becomes much easier when you’re working with one of the top 3 OL’s in the NFL. If he run the ball effectively with our OL, then...

Anyone who watched RTH while in Miami knew he could make some amazing throws but had major faults in his game. If you cover up those faults with...

No, not for any price or stock pick. Just no. That guy isn’t going to be able to stay healthy and we already have that at QB.

I guess Minkah is going to have to ask for another trade. Maybe we can trade Austin Jackson for him and have the best safety tandem in NFL history.

I think we need a big, physical WR that can catch red zone TD’s, especially if we move on from Gesicki. Maybe if we can build a dominant run game...

I’d be happy if we signed Tomlinson so we could move Jackson out of the NFL. Then move Liam to RT to see if he has any chance of being ok or if...

At one point I’d hoped we’d get Linderbaum in the middle of the 1st round but Grier Griered us.

How many have you been in with Flores to act like you know what you’re talking about?

I’m still scorned but that trade to NE which turned into Samson Satele

My cousin has worked for several NFL teams and had a 1 year stint in Washington. All I can say is he left as quickly as possible because in his...

Only problem is SF has an amazing roster in spite of their QB and Miami has, well, Chris Grier….you know

I did Oktoberfest in 2019 before Covid hit. Tip your waitress 20 euro right out of the gate and then do your best to stay sober lol

Agreed. It’s easy to say he was an abysmal coach when the Gm takes Tua over Herbert, Austin Jackson over Justin Jefferson and Noah I over...

That’s why I will remain skeptical until proven wrong about our new HC. Every 2-3 years it’s hey, look, we’ve got a new head coach that’s gonna...

Well he’s walking into a situation with a QB who can’t stay healthy and has limitations that a gimmick offense had to be designed around that....

Great post hitman! My reason for not wanting to draf Tua is I didn’t think he had the potential to be elite and he can’t stay healthy. The crazy...

Every mock draft I did had us taking Creed in the 2nd round. Love any OL that wrestled. I’m not gonna complain about Holland but really wanted...

Or becuse we drafted a fragile QB who missed 4 full games and 2 1/2 games, our GM hasn’t been able to assemble a respectable OL since he got here,...

IF true, Flores would become my all-time favorite former coach.

Agreed. It was pretty clear early on that Burrow had separated from the pack in spite of what people thought coming into the season.

It’s hard to know what to believe at this point. How much of what was leaked post-Flores firing was spin to cover up their tracks for firing an AA...

Sounds like special teams coordinators will be lining up for the job after this lol

Someone else said it but you also have to give credit to Cincys defense in the playoffs. They’re giving up less than 20 points per game. How...

Well if he can’t figure out a way to scheme around one player(and I know he’s the best of the best)we’re not going to have a chance against Judon,...

What happened to McDaniels offense in the 2nd half with a 10 point lead in one of the most important games of the season? Seems like if he was...

If Harbaugh comes back to the NFL and it’s not the Dolphins I will view that as the last in a long line of failures for Miami. It will be hard to...

You and a few Miami fans are the only people that think that. Chase is not only the best WR in this draft class but he might very well be the...

Definitely. But we got rid of the architect of that defense so what are we left with? I know the hope is that stays the same and an offense...

I think one of the issues with our defense is we struggled getting pressure consistently. Phillips showed some promise but he disappeared at...

If Harbaugh returns to the NFL and Ross can’t use his connection to U of M and likely relationship with Harbaugh, then whatever shred of hope I...

Landing Harbaugh and losing Grier would immediately take this franchise multiple steps forward. The only other thing you could ask is for Ross to...

I hope not but nothing I’ve hoped has stopped the bad decisions Grier and Ross continue to make. They need to land Harbaugh.

Not to mention SF’s offense went into a shell when they had the lead in the NFC championship game. Maybe that’s on Shanahan but to your point,...

Maybe. But you’d have to go to slot WR Cole Beasley to find a WR who averaged less yards per catch than Waddle. Unlike Hill, he didn’t take many...

He’s not even in the same league as Chase. I know Waddle is limited by our QB but chase is a big play threat and averaged almost 9 YPC better. I...

I get your point but I wouldn’t say same level of talent. Chase is better than anyone on our roster, Higgins is better than our 2nd best option...

Makes me realize we’re never making the super bowl with Burrow, Allen or Mahomes in the AFC until we find a franchise QB. Really tough watching...

I played OL in college. I can tell you one thing, whatever stats suggest, if you can’t protect your QB and have some semblance of a run game...

Cannot argue with that!

Nothing to see here. Flo was 100% the problem. Keep moving along!

I think this deserves its own thread. If it’s under the frame of Tua, it’s going to continue to stay in the Tua isn’t the answer vs he doesn’t...

This would be a new low for Miami.

Maybe it’s because I’ve never gotten into twitter but what is the tear about? He wanted Daboll?

https://www.espn.com/nfl/insider/insider/story/_/id/33142010/ranking-rookie-classes-2021-nfl-draft-best-worst-teams-based-first-year-production...

That was me trying to be optimistic for once. I don’t really believe that. And I think Wannstedt is one of the worst coaches we’ve had. He took...

On some level it does make sense. If Ross doesn’t want to ruffle feathers at Michigan, the Pr/spin needs to be Harbaugh pursued it and not the...

All I can hope for at this point is Grier hits on another draft, we hire the right coach and Tua proves us wrong. If we’re right about Tua, then...

Tough to say. I think had Tua stayed healthy, might have picked up 1-2 games. Not to mention Davis, Howard and Jones.

Joseph feels like a major step back from Flo. I understand that our “brain trust” didn’t like meany words but firing someone with back to back...

Well at least we’ll get a 3rd pick out of it. I’m not really optimistic about any decision that Ross/Grier make and expect this coach to get...

That makes more sense. I didn’t see the game but saw the stat line.

That’s strange because Chase had a 57 yard catch and 3 other receivers had catches above 21 yards.

IMO, with the way rules are skewed towards offense, you need an all time elite defense with HOFers like Ravens or Bucs. But it’s been 18 years...

There’s too many misses with him as GM and DoCS. We had 3 1st round picks in 2020. Two were complete misses and one was a whiff in the sense...

Id assume the director of college scouting has some influence over who we draft. He’s not the only person I blame but he’s definitely part of the...

That and you can’t completely miss on drafts. And you can’t do it in 2 drafts over a 5 year period. And if you don’t find a franchise QB, it’s...

I think 2020 is hard to evaluate his coaching because he had so many players sit out due to Covid. Plus it’s pretty clear if you have one of the...

Well he’s been Director of Scouting and/or GM for 14 years. Our organization has sucked over that time frame. The players have changed, the...

Let’s compare Flores and pre-Flores drafts. The 2013 and 2017 drafts come to mind as complete miss drafts. That’s one of the problems with...

Is Drew Brees from 5-6 years ago coming with him? Sometimes I wonder how much of it is the coach vs getting a HoF QB. I guess you could say...

Rodgers definitely should have done a better job on that blocked punt that resulted in a TD.

Tannehill is the QB we all knew he was. Capable of making some amazing plays but major flaws in his game. Kudos to Burrow who was sacked 9 times...

That’s the only reason I’ll be ok with the decision they made. Otherwise they’re the idiots I think they are.

Yeah, I guess we’ll find out. And I hate the fact that I have 0 confidence in this organization and have turned so negative. I just don’t...

Because you don’t trade 2 1st round picks for a WR. I hope you’ve played football or heard the saying that you build from the inside out. We...

Grier really made a smart move trading our pick vs SF’s lol. God I can’t wait for him to turn this around……Grier….anybody….?

My last point was with Flores in mind. I don’t believe you fire a coach in year 3 that’s already posted 2 winning seasons. fwiw, Bellicheck...

Let the HC determine who they want at QB. Instead of more yes men, find the right person and get out of their way. If they say mean words or...

According to PFF, he was the 5th rated DT. Of course Sieler was #4

I felt like Wilkins really had a breakout year. I think he’s starting to justify that #1 pick.

Can’t complain about our draft but it is tough to see 4 players I wanted in the top 5.

The only one that made sense to fire Flo for was Harbaugh and it sounds like that’s not happening. I’ve lowered my expectations for this...

This times 1,000! This is also why I believe the Dolphins are doomed while Grier and Ross are leading this. Our only hope is that we get...

I’ll give a first time HC a little slack while he’s learning on the job. I won’t give the GM who selected him any slack. Especially, when that...

Or he didn’t want Tua to begin with and didn’t want his career as a coach limited by his QB. I can’t blame him for that.

IF this story is true, doesn’t fit the narrative that Flo wanted Tua. There’s been reports that he wanted Herbert. Now maybe he sighed off on...

This was taken out of context. I’m not saying I’d rather have Moore than Waddle. I don’t think that can even be argued. I’m saying I’d rather...

Outside of Laremy Tunsil, who has Grier drafted that’s panned out? This was a problem before Flores arrived.

Elijah Moore. The player who shredded our team on a crappy offense with a crappy QB. Not sure what the underlined comment had to do with...

I’ve never been a RTH fan/supporter but he didn’t miss a game his first four seasons. Much like now, our OL was bad and he got killed. Those...

Finally something you and I agree on. Pass rushers have substantially more positional value than a RB. Unless you have a franchise QB, if you...

Well have to agree to disagree. Which is part of what make these discussions fun. There’s not one WR in the NFL I’d trade 2 top 15 picks for....

That’s true. I’m not mad about Waddle. He’ll be good. I just try to imagine what this offense would look like with Chase, had we stayed at 3,...

That’s a fair point My problem is it’s flawed thinking in a long line of flawed thinking. I don’t think a WR is worth 2 top 15 picks,...

Yeah, Grier isn’t smart and this another example. Our off-season plan lead to an early off-season. I’ll never understand that trade and think it...

I don’t know. If they say mean things then maybe they’ll be let go earlier. That Colin Cowherd video is so spot on. Whether Flores would have...

I’ve seen things where he preferred Herbert and told Tua to his face that Mac Jones is better. We’re never going to know what happened behind the...

Agreed. He’s been extremely effective with pressures and batted balls. Very underrated player and hope he stays in Miami. He’s been our most...

Yeah, because Griers bad drafts started right when Flores came to town.

Hopefully he gets a GM that doesnt have his head in his a**.

So you’re saying a 32nd ranked OL last year is competent? The reason they made a huge jump this year is their GM was smart enough to sign the...

Everyone outside of Phin fans knows this whole thing was a joke. Sounds like Ross likes people that give him blowies and tell him nice words....

Can’t stand Ireland but Flores would be a great hire for Chicago. Assuming they don’t have an owner who likes candy canes, nice words and lollipops.

I don’t know that I’d say regardless of talent. They consistently field one of the leagues best OL’s and defenses. I don’t care who your QB is,...

Yep, knowing Miami Dolphins history, the Fo will make the wrong decision dooming another HC.

Very low after firing Flores. Don’t trust Grier or Ross to make the right hire. After a good draft last year, Grier is due for a crappy one.

I hope he completely rehabilitates himself and we never hear from him again as Dolphins fans.

Here’s why I’m not: 1. If you’re going to make a change, Chris Grier is public enemy number 1(since you can’t fire an owner). He’s been here...

Only difference is Flores was a first time HC and certainly made his fair share of mistakes. Grier has been director of personnel or GM for a...

Jones and Howard were banged up for part of the season. That changes our defense pretty substantially. Raekwon Davis also missed substantial...

I trust Grier like I trust ISIS with the access codes to our entire nuclear arsenal

Typical Miami. Get rid of someone who’s shown some promise and go with unproven coordinators. Maybe no respectable HC will consider Miami or...

So you’re going to answer my questions with questions? I was more curious but maybe there’s no need to continue the dialogue. I don’t trust...

So a lot of speculation and not a lot of facts. All we really know is he was 24-25 as a Hc and put together our first back to back winning...

I’d like to see what he could do with the Bears defense. I’d become a pseudo Bears fan while/IF we get through another 3-4 years of rebuilding.

If a football player can’t handle an F bomb, maybe ballet is more their sport. JFC, is this really news? I had a football coach in college hit...

So you’re saying Grier was/is a puppet GM and wasn’t in control of the decisions he made on our roster? If so, why was Ross praising him for the...

Sadly, a NFL coaches tenure is tied to having a franchise QB. If Flo didn’t want Tua, he was taken anyways and he didn’t believe he was a...

I don’t think anyone is calling Flores the next Bellicheck, even though it took him 4 seasons to post a winning a record. He was a rookie head...

Is this question intended for 2022 or 2025, getting hard to tell with this organization

I know but Jones/Howard were banged up which limits what we can do. Davis missed half the season and our run defense is noticeably better when...

The only reason we were even close is our defense and I’m not convinced someone is going to come in and do what Flo did with this defense. Even...

Reports I’ve seen say Flores preferred Herbert over Tua. I don’t know when we’re going to learn. This was the same issue with Saban.

A lot of good points. Holland appears to be a home run and Wilkins had a break out year, IMO. Waddle had a nice season but was basically a...

I’m curious what Flores could have done to make Jones, Davis and Howard healthy. Additionally, Griers off-season plan relied on 2 rookies to...

And this is why Miami is a bottom dweller . Instead of listening to the Hc who preferred Herbert over Tua, we listen to the owner who had interest...

Hey, our rebuild is getting a rebuild! Thats the Grier and Ross way!

Tua is responsible for his health and that makes 3 years in a row he’s missed time due to injuries. It’s tough to rely on a QB who can’t stay...

I go through that list and outside of Harbaugh, I have a hard time seeing any of those as upgrades. Maybe I just need to stay away for a few days...

Where are you seeing that was on Flores?

After this firing, I can’t argue with you anymore. Ross is the beginning and ending of our problems . He’s been the one constant in this s***show

Good teams lose to bad teams all the time in the NFL. The colts lost their playoff hopes to a Jacksonville team that lost their head coach....

Completely disagree. A rookie hasn’t earned anything. You’re paid millions of dollars to come in and do a job . He didn’t buy in. Maybe that’s...

These guys completely nailed it! I like how Orlovsky even called out Grier for this OL.

Yes but it’s absolutely moronic to think that a coach can change a losing culture, implement his systems and find his players on a completely...

Probably won’t matter because they’ll be fired in 3 years and we’ll be sold on a “new/better” rebuild

The only way this is justifiable, and I’m still not sold on that, is if: 1) the players pushed for this- hard to believe considering how we played...

Minkah wanted a defined position. He didn’t want to play a Swiss Army knife in our cover 0 defense. He would have been insane in our system....

Or our GM could have kept Karras and Flowers. We might not have had a “good” OL but it wouldn’t have been historically bad and maybe even...

Because our Qb missed 2 half games and 4 games during that stretch and we were relying on 4 rookie starters on an already young roster. This...

this is classic Miami. Build a gimmick offense around a QB who can’t stay healthy and will probably be washed out in 4 years. Then the story...

Classic Ross lunacy, I’d consider hiring a first time coach. You know what, you just did and he defied the odds with a gutted roster. But you...

I don’t know. I think our OL would have been serviceable had we kept Karras and Flowers. Our tackles would still be an issue but at least the...

Maybe that’s true or maybe that’s a GM covering his tracks. Flo didn’t draft Tua or Jackson or neglect to resign our 2 best OL. You don’t have a...

Sometimes you can’t fix stupid. Taking Tua over Herbert should be fireable not to mention building the worst OL in the NFL.

Deserved to go? What behind the scenes dirt are you talking about? With even an average healthy starting QB this year, I don’t think we go on a...

How Grier kept his job is beyond me.

Coaching didn’t ignore the OL in FA and draft a QB who can’t stay healthy. If Tua was healthy this year, I think this is a playoff team. That’s...

If Ross can’t see that Grier is the problem with this team, he’s too stupid to be running an organization.

This is a tough organization to cheer for sometimes. This makes no sense. This is a playoff team if Tua doesn’t go down or Grier doesn’t neglect...

I’d be most worried about Pitt. They’d be a tough match for us. I’m not sure who we have that could slow down Heyward or Watt

I was driving back from TN but had the ESPN gamecenter app on the whole way. I know the game didn’t mean much in terms of playoffs but we have to...

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You could certainly argue Ross is incompetent. We’ve had 7 head coaches since 2004 or one new one every 2.5 years. That’s not a recipe for...

I don’t know how much of it is some deep rooted/systemic issue versus we fielded the worst OL in Dolphins history and a QB who’s rated in the...

Looking at his stats over the season he is all over the map. He had a 4-5 game stretch where I was starting to believe IF he could stay healthy...

Classic Miami football. Shoot yourselves in the foot, work your way back into the playoff conversation and just when you start sucking in the...

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A few hits on RTH and he’ll resort back to his fumbling, turn over ways.

I worded it pretty poorly but what I was trying to say is I don’t think we’re ready to compete against the elite teams yet because our OL is so...

My point wasn’t to be a Debby downer but rather to point out how this team is winning in spite of its horrible OL that was on full display last...

I think last night showed why we’re not competitive against elite teams with good defenses and QB’s. Our OL is historically bad and it showed...

Tuas got to stop taking those hits. With injury history, he’s not going to last

This OL is historically bad. Why did Grier let Flower and Karras go? He’s got one off-season to fix this or he needs to go. This is stupid to watch

3 holding penalties because they’re getting beat so bad

Once again, what do you do when your OL is horrible? When you get manhandled in the trenches, hard to win football games. Good thing we’re...

Is Jackson the worst OL we’ve ever had?

Our OL is getting manhandled so not sure what you can do about that.

This OL is so bad but really not liking Tuas ball security. We got lucky there

I think the reality is there are 4-5 “elite” QB’s in the NFL that are head and shoulders above the rest. They can absolutely carry a team and are...

For me, I think you pay Gesicki and Ogbah. Then go after Armstead or the best available LT. I don’t know about you guys but I’d be happy with:...

Come on man, lighten up. I get that you don’t like him or anything he does. I wasn’t a fan of the pick and wanted Herbert. I can still...

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I really think we need to move Liam back to RT, move Davis to LG or upgrade and then find a legitimate LT.

Tua got the angry run of the week. Gotta give the kid credit for trucking that dude

Would love to see Gesicki and Ogbah resigned. Problem is will you have to pay Gesicki WR or TE money? You need to bring in a veteran OT. Invest...

I hope we win them all but I’d be ecstatic if we went 9-8. That shows right and some talent developing. Better fix the OL in FA, so you can...

Well deserved! It was fun watching an effective run game yesterday and he was great at YAC

You could argue that Holland and Waddle our are best 2 players right now and we won without them. Important to remember this is the NYJ but you...

7-7!!!!

Love seeing the home town kid tear it up today. Johnson having himself a game

Is Zach Sieler the most underrated dolphin? He’s having a game!

Doesn’t get more Miami than this game. Lose games when it matters and win games when it doesn’t. It’s an exercise in sucking our fanbase in to...

Can we put Jackson back on the inactive/COVID list….

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Maybe Sammie Smith is available to fumble on the goal line

I’m expecting 8-9 and am ok with that if our rookies keep on developing. We just dug ourself too deep of a hole to start the season. I really...

Even though 4 of the teams aren’t good, it’s way better than losing any of those games. We also beat the best team in the AFC and another likely...

Thank go’s this happened during a bye week. It’s going to be so weird to finally have a healthy team next week.

I’m always willing to eat crow. I’ve been as critical of Grier as anyone. Still don’t love some of the vets we cut from last season but this...

Wilkins is quietly having himself an incredible year. I see PFF has him rated as the #6 interior defender. The only other Dolphin who ranks...

I can respect a man who can admit when they’re wrong, especially on a public stage like that. Says a lot about his character.

Very sad way to go. RIP

I gotta root for Cincy so we get a higher draft pick. I don’t think we’re going to make the playoffs or really do anything IF we make it, so...

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The bourbon market has gone completely insane like the sports cards market the last few years, especially Buffalo Trace products.

You have to start somewhere. Beat the bad teams consistently, have a winning record versus middle tier teams and go .500 versus the top tier...

I was gonna say, maybe he’s cool at gets you Weller Special Reserve. Was hoping you won a nice, rare bottle but sometimes bragging rights is...

I was as critical of Grier as as anybody on these forums but after seeing these rookies emerge I’ve come around. I still think Grier has his...

What bottle of bourbon was on the line. I geek out on bourbon :)

Glad to see Hunt having a good game. I haven’t given up hope on him.

Keep Davis, Hunt and Liam. Move Liam to RT and Davis to LG. Buy Jackson a one way to ticket to anywhere in the world and wish him the best....

It’s pretty clear that we need to figure out our OL to not only improve the running game, we have to have one of the least effective run games,...

Agreed. Tua is showing he can get it done IF he can stay healthy. This defense is playing like a championship caliber defense. This off-season...

A win is a win. I just keep looking back and saying what if we had beat Atl and/or Jax. We’d be 7-6 or 8-5 and dead center in the playoff race.

It’s fun to be excited about sundays again. And this is just for a chance to move closer to .500. Can you imagine what it would be like thinking...

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Unless he restructures his contract, I just don’t know how you can keep paying a player who’s had 1 full season in his NFL career. Even beyond...

I think getting his and Jones contract off the books should be priority 1 over this off-season or next. I think our off-season draft and Fa...

Really puzzling off-season for Grier. On one hand, he hit several home runs in the draft. On the other, he gutted our 2 best OL and a really bad...

Is Fuller one of the most underwhelming FA signings in Dolphins history?

I’m starting to think that outside of LT/C, CB should priority #2 in this draft so we can replace Jones and free up his big contract at some...

I’m hoping to see Phillips push for the rookie sack lead this week and start pushing for top 10. Since my fantasy football season is wrecked...

What players do you disagree on? Bad team, there’s still 5 weeks left and we could end up with a winning record. It’s got nothing to do with...

Whether we make the playoffs or not, I just really want us to finish with a winning record. I think the pieces are in place besides a LT. This...

I think Raekwon Davis being out hurt us, especially in defending the run. To Keys points, also had X and Jones banged up. Plus 2 rookie starters...

I’ve been very critical of Grier and there have been several moves I don’t like including cutting Flowers, Van Noy and Karras. Objectively...

I didn’t love the move either but at least he nailed the picks. That’s an improvement for me but maybe my expectations are really low for Grier....

Stephen A just gets more obnoxious with age

I still come back to the decision to cut Flowers, Karras and Van Noy. If we have Flowers and Karras, then play the best 3 Hunt, Davis and Liam,...

Unfortunately we started way too slow for me to realistically expect to make the playoffs. I think the decision to gut veterans directly impacted...

I would love to see us draft Tyler Linderbaum OC out of Iowa and then sign a mid tier LT. Id be happy with: LT- Cam Robinson LG- Davis C-...

You bring up a good point, if you hit 50% on your first rounders, the other 1st could have been a miss and Waddle could very well be a home run....

This is my argument against the move up to get Waddle. I think waddle is gonna be good. But I’m not willing to spend 2 top 12 picks for any WR....

You happy with the hire?

Completely agree. I’m an Iowa fan and saw AJE tear him a new a-hole in the Holiday Bowl 2 years ago and wasn’t impressed.

It’s starting to look like Grier hit a grand slam with this draft. Phillips had 2 sacks, Holland a pick and Waddle had an incredible day. I...

Man, I never thought 5-7 would feel so good. Awesome to see our young talent taking over the game

Boneheaded play by Wilson. Could have had the first down

Jackson is hopeless

This is actually really fun to watch. I know it’s Cam Newton but this defense is devastating today

F’ing Jackson

This x 1,000! Just no reason to get rid of Karras and Flowers. This line could be decent if they were starting and that would equate to a couple...

I hope that 6 point swing doesn’t come back to bite us in the a**

Gaskin!!!!

Outside of the fumble, Tua has looked really sharp. Priority number 1 this off-season is fix the line. Why do I feel like we’ve said this before

This off-season needs to consist of drafting Linderbaum and signing a true OT. I’m ok with Liam, Hunt and Davis staying in the lineup but they...

Holland is such a pimp! He’s looking like a home run. DROY….just saying

Liam is way too slow/unathletic to be playing LT. This OL is just a sh** show

Even the announcers were saying how bad of a challenge that was

Another game, another time seeing our expensive FA CB get burned.

I’m so over this offensive line. This is an embarrassment. Tuas got to be more aware too. That cost us 3 points

Any word on whether Dieter or Parker will suit up?

Hopefully they sign Gesicki and Ogbah. Then we really need to target a LT. I don’t want the top one in the market but someone who can play at a...

I think he’ll be a good player but I’m not willing to pay 2 high 1st rounders for him or any WR. Especially when you can’t block and don’t have a...

I just keep watching Parsons and wonder why we didn’t stay at 12 and take him. Or one of the best OT’s in the NFL, Slater.

That was my first thought too.

This page wouldn’t be 5 pages in if it was definitive either way. I’ve seen some things from him that have been impressive: intangibles, pocket...

Especially when Michael Carter was still available and I thought he looked decent/good before he got injured.

I’d love to see us draft Linderbaum and then find a LT in FA. Not necessarily too tier but someone who is serviceable.

I do believe he could be a very good RT. He just lacks quickness on the left side. Also, he’s rated 79th by PFF and it drops every week. That...

It’s amazing how much of a sh** show our OL is. That’s the disappointing part to me, it’s like they’ve made no or very little progress....

I hear you man. At the same time, for me this season is about seeing our young roster improve and figure out how to win games. If they can start...

I think the biggest priority this off-season is fixing this OL. I don’t care if we have to pay an OL coach $5mm a year. I think if we can find a...

Great play by Tua

Austin Jackson doing something poor again

Would be nice to see our #6 pick make plays like Moore just did

They are calling some weak a** penalties. Even the announcers aren’t agreeing

How the hell does he miss that? This team just sucks the joy out of football

I’m sure its a bit of both but Jackson sucking started the dominoes. Liam should be at RT, Davis at G but because Jackson was a horrible LT,...

This doesn’t feel like a game that ends up in a win for us. Offense is a hot mess

Maybe, but Jackson is one of the worst OL I’ve seen. He’s in complete bust territory at this point. But to your point, we’ve said that about...

This OL is a complete embarrassment. I’m not sure one of them would start on a good team

Man, Holland just looks good out there. Think he’s going to be legit

This OL still remains a hot mess

That and depending on how you view Tua, we missed on 2/3 of our 1st round picks that year. Jackson is one of the worst OL I’ve seen. Probably...

I see Van Noy had an INT and is rated 18th by PFF, higher than any Miami LB. why did we get rid of him again? While we’re on that topic, Flowers...

This x1000 Flores needs to figure his OC coordinator and OL coach but I’m not ready to move on. Ive seen enough of Grier’s drafts to not want to...

Pretty sad when you consider that this was supposed to be the strength of our team. So much underperformance everywhere the first 8 games. Let’s...

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I agree about team building. Priority number 1 has to be this OL. That will help Tua stay more healthy. My argument has nothing to do with Tua...

Problem is we drafted one of those guys at #5 coming off a season ending injury with a long track record of injuries. While the injuries in Miami...

Do i get extra credit for picking Washington over TB…. :-)

I agree. First we need to fix our OL. I think we need to move Liam to RT, Davis to LG and then find a LT. LT- ? LG- Davis C- Dieter RG- Hunt...

They’ve owned us so it was nice to finally get a win against them. Plus it shows that there is some life in this team and last year wasn’t...

Until he can play a full 17 game season, he is very much part of the problem.

I don’t like 7-10 either but I also understand that Grier gutted our 2 best OL and 2 of our top 4 pass rushers. Plus our starting QB has missed...

I don’t like it either. IF they both end up as HoF, the rest of this draft doesn’t even matter. I’m optimistic about Liam but think he needs to...

That’s what gives me hope about this team. They haven’t quit on Flores, they’re young and things are clicking. It’s always been a 4 year...

Here’s the thing, and I’m gonna preface this with its hard to trust this team completely, we’re heading into a stretch where winning 4 consecutive...

Well your wife is going to have to start flying to and from the US for every game. Sorry you won’t see her as much but you know, just win baby

How in the hell did this happen!?! I know it’s a meaningless win but didn’t see this one coming.

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I just wonder how much of last year was luck vs losing 4-5 veterans at key areas? I think Tua has played as well as Fitz minus the durability....

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, the Patriot way works when you’ve got a HoF QB and you’re winning Super Bowls. For any other team,...

Outside of coaching, is the main problem that we don’t have a true LT? I thought Eich would be better at RT but it seems we have too many RT’s...

Where’s your post game analysis/thoughts? No Monday morning procrastination, you can’t break tradition :)

Is the worst case scenario that we reel off 4-5 more meaningless wins and Grier keeps his job? Or maybe he keeps it anyways because Ross is a clown.

This is the 3rd time he’s missed games in Miami. His durability is definitely an issue. We are never going to trust him to stay healthy which...

A lot of different ways to say they’re a turd. They’re going on the shelf of turds that this organization has put up over the last 2 decades....

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The fact that Grier believes they have the roster to win now tells me now that he’s the biggest moron in the NFL. So if you’re in win now mode...

I’ll never understand it. I pay for Uber every time.

I didn’t want us to pick him either. But making more bad decisions after other bad decisions, well that’s been Miami football for 2 decades. At...

Sad that our team has so little to discuss besides the potential for setting our franchise back by leveraging our future for a QB who’s record is...

That’s right, god, you just ruined my day

When is the official trade deadline? I can’t wait for this thread to die

This trade wouldn’t have made sense for Miami but it would be nice to have a GM who made moves to improve your team.

I don’t necessarily think Tua is the answer long term but I think he’s played well enough to give him another chance for another year and a half....

Yeah, he’s rated 20 spots higher than your boy. Since Herbert is 12th, that means Tua is….well you can do the math

Fortunately it doesn’t look like there elite Qb prospects in the draft. As it stands now, we gave up 2800 points of trade value for 1600,...

It will be interesting to see how we do against Hou, NYJ(2) and NYG. More like watching midget wrestling interesting but still interesting. If...

This x a million. You build a team in the trenches and hope you can land a franchise QB. Their off-season plans replace 2 pass rushers with a...

That trade to 6 to draft Waddle might be the dumbest move Grier has made. And that’s saying something because the list is LONG.

I can understand why you think that. I’m not sold on him either. Just not sure what Flo can do when Grier neuters our pass rush, doesn’t fix our...

Not trying to shoot the messenger but there’s nothing that can come out of their mouths that I care about. They’re a crappy team. The only thing...

How did our rookies look today?

No sugar coating this turd sandwich. A lot of things need to change but I don’t trust the guy at top to make any of them.

I didn’t even watch the game and it was beautiful. Such a more satisfying way to spend my sundays than watching this team.

If GB has over half of the QB’s in the league that game, AZ focuses on stopping the run and I don’t think they win. That’s what a franchise QB...

Also interesting that GB won without their top 3 WR’s. Just goes to show what a franchise QB can do. Also speaks to how stupid our GM is by...

Same for me. I started rooting for them in 1983 when I was 6. Growing up in Iowa, everyone liked the Bears, Packers and Vikings. Seeing a...

I’m talking about having 2 HoF QB’s over 30 years and only winning 2 Super Bowls. I’m not arguing that ownership structure doesn’t impact...

I don’t know how much the ownership structure has attributed to their success vs landing back to back HoF QB’s which basically only one other...

This is my position too. If they trade for Watson, I’m not coming back until major changes are done.

Hopefully they sigh a veteran LG this off-season. Maybe not the top one in FA but someone who can play at a much higher level than him.

You never shoot the messenger. I hate this rumor if it pans out to be true but that’s not on you. That’s on our dysfunctional organization and...

Pretty sure Peyton Manning has identified him as the toughest defender to go against too

I’m laughing at the value of his franchise plummeting because he’s a moron and has no clue what he’s doing.

And wasn’t that the theme of the off-season with trading major draft capital to get Waddle and sign Fuller, to blow the lid off the defense?...

And we can all thank Chris Grier for that. I was thinking this last night watching Metcalf and the MNF. There is no WR I’d pay 2 top 10 draft...

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I think you and I are on the same page about A LOT of things but here’s where we disagree. I appreciate that we still have ONE optimistic fan....

I’m a big believer that you are what your record says your are. If we were 3-4 and lost to LV, TB, Buf and Indy, I’d honestly understand. But we...

Well, if it’s not already completely lost, the thrashing Buffalo will be giving us this weekend should be the final nail in the coffin. I wonder...

This is what has me perplexed, why would they make these moves? KVN wasn’t expensive. He had one more year on the contract. Even if you expect...

I’m not sure why anyone would want to come to this dysfunctional mess. We’re in contention for nothing this year and what does our future outlook...

I think the locker room issues can be tied to lack of veteran leadership. The NE Patriot way of cutting or trading expensive veterans works when...

IMO, this is the draft year we need to shore up the OL and find a way to get pressure on the QB. The OL shoring up begins and ends with Tyler...

If Ross is too stupid to not see Grier pissing talent and draft picks down the franchise proverbial leg, then we’re f****d beyond belief.

I’ll be happy if this thread dies with no resolution to the title. Not because I believe Tua is the answer but rather I’m not going to support a...

I would have had no problem with Waddle if we stayed at 12. I just don’t see a big enough difference between him and Smith to justify another 1st...

I see TE’s getting open and making plays down the field. I see Waddle catching passes for 5-10 yards. Maybe that’s our idiot coaches but I also...

Pitts looks good but I wanted Chase and hes the best WR in the NFL right now. Grier traded a #5 and a 12 for a guy averaging 8.5 YPC. Just let...

Hate to say it but I really don’t care anymore. I’ve just accepted the fact that we’re one of the worst run franchises in the NFL and until Ross...