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I have no problem helping finsbuck as I did Paul but I think it's really ****ty someone just volunteers my work which takes a bit of time without...
Hey Boik, Khalil Mack wants to know how his non-impact non-elite *** tastes.
"This message is hidden because Fin-O is on your ignore list."
Hmm, that couldn't be Todd, way too short of a reply.
Let us hold a moment of silence for Christine Michael's career.
CBS Sports' Jason La Canfora reported the Seahawks are shopping RB Christine Michael. Todd to write 5 pages on why this is dumb.
Okay Brett
a tie!
There are a few of us who feel that a team should start with their strengths and upgrade their weaknesses while mostly keeping things intact, but...
allegedly.
would you like some peanut butter with that jelly?
Adds some value so to speak to finishing things up before the real draft to avoid all this mess.
might as well ship them to SF so they just retire.
Why am I seeing such a spike in Glengarry Glen Ross quotes recently?
the NFC North, his 4th grade dodgeball team, some things never change for Paul.
Touche, I thought you pulled a Todd and drafted him with that pick I traded to you instead of just trading the pick. Still, I got Dareus and...
Fin O with 2 ways to get it wrong, much like when he drafted Blaine Gabbert and Cam Newton.
$5.00
I'm not sure if that's good or bad though. I want to be subtle and smooth, but if it's too obscured it may be overlooked.
woah waoh, I need mayo for my tuna
Double Ds are definitely a bust.
*Berkeley
What's the price on DL Ryan Davis?
You forgot a 0. Had a 1 lb burger today. It was awesome.
No mention of Fuddruckers, y'all need to do better.
She may be a little sore after last night though.
I have PMs I need, idiot. Read the dead money thread.
thoughts on the dead money proposal? My inbox is full.
Because I totally knew that and had that intent. But it's okay, since it's not like you ever cracked jokes about my Mom who happened to die when...
That's not what your mother said.
clear your inbox!
you can't tell me what to do!
it's not my Easter, and affects*
you're not the boss of me!
The pages seem to be all ****ed up. Look at the week numberings. http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/clt/2014.htm...
twitter? I hardly knew her!
tl;dr
points taken away for attempting to trade him
It was for Kevin Boss, then we each cut the guy we traded for.
Bah, young people!
Early reports indicate a Tony Pashos involvement.
Psst:
why not use private message? What's Direct Message?
is DM a typo or slang I'm not familiar with? I first thought the former but have seen it enough I'm guessing the latter. I'm guessing it's...
figure something out you two!
Todd, it's okay to hold onto your 1st rounders, really.
That's not hard to do though. It also doesn't mean he's good. Probably took him about 5 hours to get to the stage, much like his throwing motion.
Elite slot guy imo
Key point being he already had them irrespective of the Mack trade. Mack + 1st + early 2 > 3 1sts + late 2. Mack is worth at least a top 5 pick,...
A plural of 1st, or firsts.
Um, no. 1st's would be possessive, and spelled out first's.
Does it really need to be stated that it's quality starters?
Packers receive: Khalil Mack OLB $4,244,773 $15,281,184 2(35) Raiders receive: 1(21) 1(30) 2(62) Hmm, nope, a net of 1 player. And it's a...
Free agent TE Jermaine Gresham was diagnosed today with a herniated disc, source said. He’s scheduled for surgery tomorrow....
That'd be fine if it were picks, plural, but it was one extra pick, and involved trading down like 30 spots in round 2 from a spot where a starter...
Can, sure. The odds on that though? Probably can't classify them as likely.
Sorry, PFF doesn't have a metric for back injuries, invalid
You didn't turn him into a few starters though. At best you netted one additional starter if you wash the 2nd rounders, and match Mack up with...
smart to doing, eh?
would a 4th rounder help tip it?
do you really need more people who are going to retire?
Sammy Morris could put up 1200 yards behind that OL.
does he come with a 4th?
Danny boy just thinks it's fake.
I wouldn't say barely, per se.
Dude, this is so hilarious, and so not the time. Bless you man.
Therein lies the outcry
only take him if he comes with a 4th
taking an outside view, here's what stands out to me. There are rules and norms of the league and the focus on the return has little to do with...
someone didn't read the whole thread!
Oh that was me. Hasn't been too bad though.
one of my 2nd rounders, thanks. What was that draft for me btw?
Witlon's or this one?
but did she try to trade someone with a 4th for nothing?
Are you talking about Witlon?
Rooks take lumps, it's what happens.
I think I drafted Omar Bolden one year, schisno, can you check since that's what you do?
Well, they would have until Paul voided Graham's contract at the start of the league.
He's no Charles Godfrey
Todd, please do not hack other people's accounts. Thanks muchly.
****, no one ever expects the Todderism Inquisition.
I would hope that half was obvious hyperbole. Kinda like calling Darren McFadden dynamic :shifty:
I didn't realize his entire career was 1 season, silly me. People, there's more than 1 season of PFF to use when you're evaluating players. I...
Kinda like Phil Wheeler, eh? ;)
[IMG] And he drops like half the passes thrown to him.
didn't mean you had to post it twice
Unger should be traded for Jimmy Graham.
you're a terrible tiered system. Bitterness is so unattractive.
Jesus, it's like mini-witlon
in the NFL, yes, but most people actually want the guy (or to trade him) here. The fact the comp is supposed to act as a deterrent or a...
and that was part of the idea to make it that way. But then there's the other issue of the guy who had the fellow and planned on rolling with him...
yeah, could at least give people an idea. Remove the 24 hour rule or no? Eh, should likely message about it.
because that's how it works in real life, though it's supposed to run concurrently, just an ending date of after FA.
*re-sign
I've always wondered if that were the case or if it would be just a restaurant, like we call our own places here.
Boik is TP's version of Reggie McKenzie?
still can't believe how different he looks now.
it does, but the logistics are still a nightmare.
it comes down to both Griddles and I believe that you can only run a league that way through simulation, like we do with MSL. As Van noted, you'd...
everyone loves to grab a boobie
stop using tagged players as chips and be loyal! You're supposed to be a socialist!
So Eagles cut 2 black guys, trade a black guy, and trade for a white guy. Nope, nothing to that at all.
it would level things, but it would be so easily manipulated, especially by anyone with any form of cleverness.
I do too, I like the cerebral nature of it, but as schisno says, it's a balancing act. If we made it like real life, in which the first trade...
There's a real easy way to do it no one would like based purely on real life.
I'm not able to do Visable, I only have Mastercard
17 (if the refs would have called PI)
Rahim Moore is on his rookie contract and by all accounts likely to leave. I think you'd have to set a year minimum on it if one even went down...
Satele was more of a funny, different time period too. Lil Wiz gets no push in the run game and is only okay at anchoring against a pass rush. He...
Satele did!
wow, an average C getting paid 9MM O_O
Yeah, we loved him his first year here, and then we did OL blocking scheme switch 8,675,309 and he didn't fit and we brought in crap to replace...
Well, Reggie McKenzie agrees at least. His every other play false starts weren't as problematic when he was the OL "6th man"
Banres is beyond cooked, he's burned. Boothe can in fact play 4 of 5 positions on the OL - just none of them adequately. Nevertheless he's a...
he wasn't even elite compared to the Raiders other OL last year. Dude's cooked.
elite versatility
one would have to check the length of a certain poster's certain appendage to verify.
but not the necessary demeanor. He doesn't play as a mauler despite his size and those larger base ends can take advantage of that. His skill has...
most 3-4 teams move to 4 down lineman in pass rush situations though and bring on a nickel.
When do we talk about Winston's windmill esque release?
It was 10 iirc, the same year we had to watch him try to play C against the Titans. Nevertheless, yes, those are bookends to feel good about.
Veldheer was a poor fit the last time he played RT fwiw (which was a while ago). He's not a mauler as he looks, much more finesse.
Sorry, this is the Jameis Winston thread, you'll have to take that somewhere else as you weren't asking for a backup QB.
To opposing players
afterthoughts similar to the 2013 QB class?
Are we talking about Jameis Leftwich? He of the ridiculously long throwing motion?
It's not rape if they don't say no!
Well, we did have that rain for a couple of days, and it was kinda cold for that one almost week.
the Grande pics weren't her
:soon:
I'm trying that now. I'm gonna make him trade with one of us.
Witlon won't make MSL trades with me.
I was gonna make a joke about the Jets, then I realized you are the Jets, which made it both less and more funny.
A remember a few years ago when everyone besides Desides I think was talking about how great Hartline was and this that and the other.
Oh, well that makes more sense. It wasn't so much scheme as it was position.
I, wait, what?
I got demodded for making such comments
Had to make sure this made the page flip. Carry on.
Congrats, you found a time zone more ****ed up than Newfoundland. What a stupid *** name too. "We just found a land that's brand new, what should...
Male or female? Catholic priests would like to know.
I work way too much overtime to want to be salaried.
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and I'm not judging, damn it.
Shoulda been the Walter Sobchak meme tbh
Isn't it time for your sabbatical again? (I wish there was a great stinkeye smilie I could use here)
Don't I Know?
Just goes to show why alcohol and drunkenness are bad! Don't drink people!
I remember when Todd traded a 2nd for Jacoby Ford, and Griddles traded a 3rd for Stanford Routt.
Hammer approves this post.
Not for a 1st, no.
And they still had the #12 offense that year. I just think bringing up only his SEA stint marginalizes him. He's had a decent career, his O has...
and former OC for the Jags
I don't even pay attention to that mess, why should I force them to?
SmiFF, pay attention!
well, a DC in name only, but a DC [IMG]
Some people point to his solo work, but I'm personally fond of what he did with Edgar Winter. Beats Rock and Roll Hoochie Koo, though the stuff he...
mah phone ain't got no hashtag, it's got a pound sign.
he's going back to Jacksonville, woohoo!
The One Man Gang doesn't need a GM though, he's already got Slick.
Yeah, I thought jerking off was so there wouldn't have to be any withdrawals.
I had a grilled cheese for lunch, I just really wanted grilled cheese.
what about grilled cheese?
I'm so sorry for you.
Skull. Stahp. Wat r u doin. No. Stahp.
definitely the 06 Raiders
The AI in 96 was more advanced the 96 Raiders too. Doesn't mean much.
On reading the wiki entry: The AI has been boosted and can now hurry in two-minute drill situations, spike the ball, and cover the receivers with...
I may have more viruses than the CDC, but not nearly as many as your mom. Oh, burn. (burn being something she experiences when urinating)
you're* Sites have been known to crash over such errors.
Much appreciative of that
What's your web filter? If it's Barracuda I can help you with that potentially. My job locked me out of like all forums for a day once. Once.
And here I thought we could never get Russell Wilson's wife into a conservatory!
Dead money in real life functions differently than dead money for the game because real life takes prorated money except for the current year and...
Well, sorta. We were gonna use OTC for here, which you, Paul, and Boik knew. Then I kinda didn't have the gusto to run anything and we were...
Not sure, you may have to consult PFF to make sure.
you did love Bortles however.
You were butt raped by Wake's dong?
Yep, he instituted a draft because he hates human life.
Saints! Well, people could use their draft pick to select a challenge. If I was playing, and not as the Raiders, and I picked say 10th (or 1st,...
it forced people to make moves. I'd definitely suggest those teams go to people looking for a challenge or if time is tight or want a huge project...
they will work as Todd mentioned, they get halved.
what about taking it a step further? Instead of randomizing the people, what if we randomized the teams? This way people aren't picking based on...
I like that idea, a pay to play type thing.
Someone wants the Saints and their cap hell, that's all that means.
you forgot Vendigo, he technically was the Fins too.
it's a tarp
http://fumblen.de/GML%20Test.xls
I'll still be kicking stuff in before I take my leave of absence. And yes, I already did the rosters.
I came up with a self tiering process essentially based around people nominating and such. I think it's the best solution/idea as of now.
Lines work on me as long as there's a steak dinner involved.
Gladly! Who will be running it?
In that case I may just run mine here this year. Paid to run a league. [IMG]
also QB TDs at 6 points.
I generally run that minus a RB, especially in 12 or 14 team leagues to keep depth and I run the bench at 4 or 5 (that's what we would have done,...
You didn't say porn, you said "nude celeb pics" it's not the same (also, creeper*)
here, /b/, /r/Celebs, whatever works.
We couldn't come to an agreement, so, the split remains. I've talked with Paul about possibly scheduling things so when one is "quiet" the other...
I never knew you were a connoisseur of fine GED-educated Piggly Wiggly bag girls!
I'd like to give big ups to Paul himself. He came in cold and handled the machinations and the egos of the league pretty well. I tip my hat to you...
(I meant it as a joke as to malwaring another board, but, thank you :D)
Does that mean you've come around a bit on it? :D
I'm deciding between a couple. I'll let you know which one. Well, if I can PM here after I decide. :shifty:
it was on Madden, but I forget why not after that. I plan to use a football sim game when it comes out that I participate in for a baseball online...
go fix your ****ed up vote for Fin O - HOU GMotY
Add restructures, add in a couple June 1st cuts, trade guys for relief and you're set. Even Dallas was manageable this year.
30 million in the old salary cap days of far less than 100,000,000 too. I thought there was a rule against cutting those guys though because I...
That was GiSH and who for Manning again?
All of it. I've never been fond of their ratings, especially for older vets.
Madden's player ratings are *** though...
also, 305's a tard who voted for a Texans team with Fin O at GM. Fix it 305!
I think PHI and ATL aren't getting enough credit for GMotY fwiw.
/lawyer'd
he may have a dead cat bounce, but he's not going to be that top tier guy imo.
This is the song that never ends, yes it goes on and on my friends...
toaskisvodkadrenchedtoastatleastthatismystory
notsureifserious
Guys, it's obvious Paul made it that way so everyone will vote for him for running the thing, duh.
I place a huge importance on team depth when I vote for the team categories already myself, fwiw.
Michael Sam thinks he's fabulous
Go back to school and learn proper English.
go play some more Pokemon, unless you feel like trading a 3rd for Stan Routt. Again.
**** you, I made trades. Just not of players.
you and me both dude, you and me both.
That sounds strangely familiar. :shifty:
I drafted Sheard much to Pete's chagrin. That was a great draft for me. Dareus, Sheard, Cameron, Wright I recall right away. Even better, I...
So one should sleep in a different seat?
If we draft Teddy I don't care if we **** up the rest of the draft. At least we'll have a QBOTF for when Reggie gets fired after the year.
Still better than Carr in 1 or 2.
I thought you have to take someone lower than where they're expected to go for it to be value?
where'd you draft him at?
ah, newbs
You're a mean person.
wat?
also the bus is a great way to pick up chicks, IJS
tl;dr I just started it earlier and scheduled less picks per day, it has seemed to work pretty well fwiw.
Whiners, the lot of ye!
it's not Pre Draft anymore
Why must you hurt me?
Todd declines every offer while endlessly hoping Paul offers Watkins.
No reserve, option to extend?
I dunno, Boik seems to be the type of guy who just likes getting fisted
I wasn't and wound up doing it anyway. A couple of times actually.
Well just call me Jack Handey while we wait for the next pick.
Trades usually happen really quickly or not at all. People formulate plans while watching the board and know what they're willing to part with
Forgive me for missing it. I thought jokes were supposed to be funny.
bull****, you grow corn.
Stay away from Brandon Weeden.
I thought you said good draft guide.
He was like my last pick in that draft anyway :bushlol:
my biggest mistake was Dion Jordan. I feel sorry for whoever drafted him in real life.
what props you use in the bedroom are none of our business.
That is just all shades of gross. I hear there's a couple of Chargers OL who may be interested after they're done "licking" [IMG]
a long sheet too.
Todd started his sheet a long time ago.
Get used to it. I used to keep sheets and sheets of excel. The last couple years? I just wing it.
someone hacked Todd's account. That post was way too short.
And then a wall of text from Todd will ensue.
at least someone will. I asked Griddles and Witlon to, neither got around to it.
I was thinking something similar in a way. The dynasty/keeper though would be in a sim engine similar to OOTP for baseball on another board, but I...
We should discuss the merits of dead money while we wait.
Gross
I feel like the Bears have been taken over by Baghdad Bob.
Lili Simmons
I eat peanut butter sandwiches, thank you.
I may take DET just to take Watkins #1
aye
Your mom makes it worth my while.
I think this is a solid logical decision. I'd open it at Midnight.
more like FeetMe, amirite?
Way to go, CM
strange, anyway site melt downs and random tards.
is tards banned too?
I just get site melt downs and random ******s. I'm not sure that's actually better.
Newbs. ****ing newbs never have any idea what they're doing.
I think you're being a bit testy right now
Everyone defines friends differently. There are quite a few people I've only met online I've known for a long time now who I consider as such. I'm...
If Greg wasn't around though I doubt much of anything changes. Last year or two years ago I missed bidding on a FA I was hard in on by about 20...
that's not the point, the point was it's a different method, so it probably wouldn't have happened, not to mention he and Greg are friends.
You're retired and don't play anymore, no one cares.
You ever try to sign Chris Gamble per chance?
the one you took all your ideas from. :shifty:
God, Reggie can't get fired soon enough. I keep refreshing hoping for the Vick signing.
PS: Walterfootball sucks, I wouldn't use their rankings for anything.
Who are you to determine where a player's perceived value is? That's what I hate about someone setting tiers. 4 re-sign bids, 2 high, 2 low. The...
Too long, I ain't reading that.
McFadden got 100,000 guaranteed. You overpaid by 395,000
There's going to be a reduction on offers to keep your own for sure. The idea was to make it part of FA in a revamping of FA, so it was supposed...
still too cheap imo
I'd be curious if you had any ideas for the re-sign. We've kicked around a bunch so far and have a few we like. I'll say this about FA though and...
last year was the same way with more actives, wasn't so much the case the year before with 10 bids.
and inactive teams too, steals have been common place the last couple years.
And those poking at Manziel's body are foolish too. I'd more worry about his pocket presence and instincts. Teddy's taken some hard hits and come...
Sigh, Fin O Fin O Fin O, judging a QB by his weight and not his skills is not how you evaluate a QB
You sound like Al.
including one Marcell Dareus.
Allegedly Reggie doesn't like him, but who knows. I'm fully braced for Carr to be our pick at 5.
I would sell the farm for Bridgewater. I think even we couldn't screw him up, but, we probably would have screwed up Megatron.
You and me both. I don't think Bortles is bad, but he's raw and will need work. We're not the team to make that happen.
Well, Brotles is ****ed now
I feel compelled to post Alice's Restaurant
irregardless isn't a word. irrespective would be the closest comp but doesn't fit your sentence structure syntax
FAs done, I'm not sure why you just don't treat them like any other inactive team in the past. Could just forfeit their picks from the start if...
It's called a dispersal draft, god, moron! (that was tongue in check, internet, lack of tone, etc, ya know)
Greg was upset because someone got better at the game than him? Wat?
I say "I don't see a good value match up, unfortunately", fwiw.
well, I mean, no one will trade Quinn for a mid level guy. I get that. There have been times where I liked a team's top players but nothing after...
what player? I'm assuming he's already found a new home.
I didn't know Greg was Catholic?
liar
So much hate in your soul.
That's what happens when you limit bids. The overlap between everyone's list with a restriction of 4 or 5 players is going to be very low. So...
restarting FA wouldn't be a terrible idea.
No you can't be like me. I mean, him. Him. I like French Onion Sun Chips, thank you very much.
It'd be interesting to see Todd try to trade with himself. I want those discussions public for the lulz. "Come on Seattle, Knile Davis is clearly...
Because he wasn't a sulky bastard everywhere, no, not at all. **** Randy Moss. Ford was coming up, but his injuries have killed him. We ruin...
True, from a business standpoint it has to help at least initially. Of course now that we tarped off the monstrosity of Mount Davis, there's less...
So did Jeff Ireland apparently. Look at the successful teams in the NFL. Look at how they're built. It's not some secret, it's just ignored. Just...
because your last FA splurge ended so well. You. Can't. Build. A. Team. Through. Free. Agency. Most overrated part of the NFL offseason.
that's not smart, just common sense :D
Oakland should, it'd be the first smart thing they've done.
It's a shame you weren't around earlier because I used to sell off everything for draft picks, since that's my favourite part of the game. You'd...
I'm not entirely sure you're typing in English. Which is strange since your first posts here were rather eloquent.
Yessir. Not sure where'd I'd go, but between a complete loss of identity and if that happened, I'd see no point in hanging around. At least with...
nope, still haven't made one. If the Raiders sign Vick though, it'll be fun (because I'm dumping the team in a hot minute), so I'll take...
I learned from alen, which means not giving up on rookies so soon. Watson had a 2nd round grade and Hayden had a 1st round grade. Hayden's net...
I meant for me, not in general :lol:
Way too many trades. I wouldn't have sold so low on Watson, and I'm not thrilled with the Hayden return.
Todd, your dupe is terrible, shape up.
sure, but you're likely not going to be able to build an all star team from it.
Live and learn - at the cost of everyone's enjoyment? No. I'm fine with people making rookie mistakes, but my point is they don't exist in a vacuum.
I agree with that. Completely.
It also ruins some of the fun of the league if you have dumb people making dumb moves. Part of the fun is the challenge. If essentially 1/3 of the...
our GM who drafted Hayden and Watson 1/2 last year?
A non binding committee would be optimal. I know I've been consulted a few times on trades this year, I'm guessing because I have no team, thus no...
you guys should hire Reggie then.
I'm perpetually confused.
False. Manning will just retire.
[IMG] [IMG]
Al's dead.
stupid contracts, just less of them now.
talented players? You have the wrong team then.
We need to ban this newb.
I hear Marshawn Lynch and Von Miller are going cheap. :shifty:
I hear Michael Sam is good at filling holes. (Too soon?)
smack talking newbs, nice
Shay Maria, I'll uh....be back later.
congrats, it's a bigger mess than the one Reggie's made.
Say, how'd you get Jacoby Ford and for how much? :shifty:
The only 2 teams I've GMed are the Bills and Raiders. Both are the lollygaggers here. Hmm.
Both, just different meanings of "deal" :shifty:
and get you a great deal on some of his players too!
I'm still working on it, and it'll involve a lot of math, just so you know.
I've always viewed GM based on total moves and future looking. Some teams start off well and just get older. I wouldn't vote them for GM of the...
Some lower round rooks contribute, and we pretty much all keep track of who we draft. It's not so meaningful to the team, per se, but when you...
Paul needs me, even more than Griddles' mom does in fact.
I... You win
I'd take that chance...
I dunno, it depends. If someone would have drafted Jenkins in Rd 2, we would have said it was a reach before the draft, not a reach during the...
But screw "Lastly, just make this more about the opportunity to get to know other posters and learn about another NFL Team and the upcoming rookie...
Google players before you release them. So much that. Also use http://www.ourlads.com/nfldepthcharts/ to get an idea of where your players fall...
it's also not legal.
move along, nothing to see here.
You're learning quite well!
Checking in!
I don't think Melo's heading to Miami, and it's not like I care about the Knicks that much.
Tyler Wilson just sucked, with his tiny hands and shell shocked self. Woo alliteration.
So, how much did Paul modify my idea? I'm in firm tl;dr mode tonight.