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Willis has less experience than Richardson. He's played in three NFL games with a combined total of less than 100 passes, I believe.

I hesitate to make any judgements for the rest of the season based on this game. It felt like everything was a bit off. I want to give it 2-3...

I don't get the Tua haters. I don't think the guy is ever going to be Mahomes or Allen level, but the fact is, there just aren't that many QBs...

That was because Jim Kelly got drafted in 1986.

I'm surprised so many people think Green Bay is going to beat Indy with Malik Willis playing QB.

Thursday Miami Sunday Baltimore LA Chargers Dallas Detroit Indianapolis Jacksonville San Francisco Seattle NY Jets Washington LA Rams Pittsburgh...

It takes a LONG time to overcome another team owning you. We owned the Chiefs for something like 8 years in a row.

I missed on Cincinatti, Denver and Cleveland. What was my fourth loss? I think I went 13-3.

The knocks on the Jags are pretty much the same as the ones on the Dolphins but the national media doesn't concentrate on them as much because...

I didn't watch it live. But they replayed it on NFL Network Saturday morning.

I didn't expect Cincy falling apart offensively but no, Love got hurt in the last couple seconds of the game. Him going down had no effect on the...

Man, I knew I shouldn't have taken Cleveland and Denver.

Not ready to judge after just one game, but if Mostert looks that way against Buffalo, he needs to be benched and they need to let the rookie play.

You're right, my bad. I forgot about their late-season collapse (that somehow the sports media doesn't talk about).

We already have as many wins against playoff teams as we did all of last season.

Personally and professionally.

Not really. I saw a ton of no-calls where the Ravens could have been called for holding. I'm talking jerseys stretched out holding.

It's been used the entire preseason and it has resulted in touchbacks.

I freaking HATE the new kickoff. It's boring as hell. May as well get rid of it and just hand the ball to the team on the 30 every time.

I wouldn't "save" anyone. We'll lose this game if we don't have our best defensive backs out there.

Ramsey didn't practice today. Hamstring.

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I like McDaniel. I just think a coach getting a contract extension is less meaningful than, for instance, Tua getting a new deal. Tua's deal...

Well, good for him that he has a payday but if Ross wants to fire him, that money doesn't come out of the salary cap.

I doubt we could fit that deal under the cap.

It's a shame he didn't start out as a Miami Hurricane and then transfer to Oregon.

Bailey Zappe got cut. Wonder if he'd make a good backup.

Talk about a waste of a roster spot. Willis' QB rating was in the single digits.

The bottom line is, we didn't have a backup QB who could win games before cutting White and we still don't.

White was a waste from the beginning. He's never shown us anything to prove it was worthwhile signing him.

Tua isn't and has never been the main problem. The problem with this team in the playoffs is in the trenches.

There aren't too many teams that have good backup QBs, but even of the ones who do, there is no one we could pick up as a backup who would be able...

It's the same damned thing ever since Marino. We should have drafted Drew Brees but we didn't because we had Jay Fiedler. Like having one...

Drafting Tannehill wasn't a mistake. Sticking with him when it became clear he couldn't elevate the team's play was.

Looks like the Steelers are trading for Brandon Aiyuk.

Waddle is a very talented WR. But a very talented WR is not as valuable in the long run as a very talented O lineman. Grier has never understood...

The Rams had to face it, eventually. The Saints had to face it, eventually. Every team that signs high-dollar FAs has to face it eventually, and...

The cap issues have been kicked down the road. We'll have to face them at some point in the next couple years.

That was last season.

Penei Sewell. Not even a hesitation. Pro bowl offensive linemen are worth their weight in gold.

Oh, the Dolphins just seemed to have one bad draft after another after Jimmy Johnson left.

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I've heard the same thing from Colin Cowherd and several others.

Just about every media talking head wants to say this is a mistake and that we should have kept Tua on his 5th year option and then franchised him...

"Excellent data?" Dude, Love had half a good season. That's not enough data to justify that kind of contract.

The thing about Tua, though, is we know for sure what we're getting. Maybe it isn't ideal, but we've seen his floor and probably his ceiling and...

Yeah, that's his job. That's every GM's job. The fact it's his job doesn't guarantee he's GOOD at his job.

One year of actual data. Three years of preseason and riding the bench. This was a desperation move.

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Glad they got it done. They did NOT need that hanging over the season.

Totally agree on both counts, but it underscores the fact that the Dolphins really don't have an Option B. They can extend Tua and pay him the...

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In the long run, we won't have Hill anyway.

At this point, they should just give him the money they know they're going to have to give him and get it over with.

I don't see the housing market crashing for a loooooong time.

Then it IS like the current housing market.

None of that stuff keeps anyone determined from being able to sign up with a new IP and a new ISP. They could use a VPN and sign on with a cell...

Naw. I don't see either one of them getting a ring, honestly. But the Packers aren't going to get past the Niners.

Jordan Love is not a better QB than Tua, and I'm not a huge Tua fan.

For a guy with 58 TDs and 60 total turnovers since he entered the league...

And they don't. The Browns situation is now viewed as a cautionary tale in the NFL.

And every other organization in the league has treated that whole thing like it didn't happen because they know how stupid it was.

Eh, I personally am not enamored of any of the three but most NFL teams seem to rate them very high and any GM who gave up the chance to take...

No, there's no way they would have traded that high a pick for Tua. Not a knock against Tua, that's just the reality of the league right now.

I question Tua's physical tools, but that's not the same thing as saying that the team was trying to trade him in the offseason. They clearly...

So in your fevered imagination, THAT equals the Dolphins wanting to trade Tua??

I don't know how anyone could believe that in this day and age when no secret gets kept more than a few days that this scenario could have...

I could see the Raiders doing something like that, though I doubt Tua would survive a season behind their line. The Seahawks might actually be...

Just for the sake of argument, which teams do you think might give him Kirk Cousins money?

If we win the division, it's unlikely we'd play the world champs in the first round.

We should have realigned back in 2002 and gone to the AFC South.

I said he wanted a SB. I didn't say he was competent. He's clearly not.

Those arguments all make sense to YOU, but they may not make sense to an aging owner who wants a SB before he dies.

If he wins a playoff game, they won't care. If he loses another one in the first round, he's probably gone.

I'd rather keep Skylar.

10-7. Best-case 11-6. Worst case 9-8.

That's a rough schedule.

Trolls aside, the inarguable fact is, whatever you think about Tua, he's going to be our QB this coming season. Another inarguable fact is, there...

Wish he'd taken the offer.

They do, but risky players bust more frequently.

He's talented but he's a risk. I'm so freaking tired of picking and signing risky players. Can't we just play it safe?

I'm not big on raw athleticism that needs coaching since our defensive coaching has been so crappy.

We shouldn't have been focused on a position. BPA IMHO.

Chop.

We just don't have that kind of luck.

Fautanu's gone.

Let's not discount the possibility of a reach.

Verse is gone.

Nope, you were right, OT.

Maybe. But they might not think the remaining OL are worth a first rounder.

CBs are going to be going next I bet, with the top DEs off the board.

Nope.

Vikes are trading up with the Jags to 17 from 23. I don't know for sure, but I'd guess for a DB.

It's not a risk I'd like to take. We've taken enough risks.

And there's the first of them.

With our luck, they go off the board 15-20.

How can anyone see anything past Kiper's head?

Good pick for the Raiders.

The Raiders have the Miracle Minshew. :-D

I like Nix to the Broncos.

I am torn on the Falcons' pick. I like Penix but that was way too high.

You think he'll get past the Vikes?

A very Giants thing to do.

Don't like that pick for the Chargers.

Not to mention that Williams is a headcase, Daniels is a stick who's going to get broken in the NFL and Maye is way too raw.

How many coaches have experienced the Chargers Chargering?

I don't think any of the QBs coming out in this draft are worthy of being taken in the top 5.

ROFL at Drake Maye checking his fly.

I'd be utterly shocked if either of those guys are with their original team in 5 years.

Sorry, were you talking to me? I didn't know since you didn't quote my post. Caleb Williams' highlight reel is from playing inferior opponents,...

Caleb Williams looks a lot like a modern-day Ryan Leaf to me.

No. Dak wouldn't be enough of an upgrade to make a difference.

That has little to do with people being more negative now, IMHO, and everything to do with the fact that internet message boards are a dying...

Unless you're performing a recon on them because they're such a force to be reckoned with...

The NFLPA reps aren't hyper-masculine 26-year-olds, for the most part, they're older, more established players who've been around a long time and...

Because they're worried about the money they make by having their star players on the field the whole season.

The NFLPA opposed the new rule. They're the ones playing the game, I trust them more than I do the owners or the commissioner.

Until the trade is finalized, I believe technically, he is.

Football is an inherently unsafe sport. It always has been. You can make it safER but you can't make it completely safe.

He wasn't fired, though, he was traded.

That's true, however, in any other job if you're having a talk with your boss about your performance and you ask to call your grandmother, he's...

I'm not convinced that Howell is any better than Skylar Thompson. Fields maybe. He's not a very good passer but he could win some games with his...

That leaves open the question of who gets to decide which opinions are reasonable and which are inane.

Well, that's kind of a human nature thing, though, isn't it?

I wouldn't want that headcase anywhere near my team.

No, that would be the last quarter of the regular season.

Baltimore just paid $8M a year for Derrick Henry.

At least it's something positive. But yeah, I would have kept Van Ginkel.

It's not a question of what I want to do, it's a question of what this front office will do.

Unless someone offers a package of picks for him. They need picks badly this off-season. I wouldn't be surprised to see him traded.

And yet, they're guys we're going to have to replace. How do you think we're going to do that without much salary cap space and few draft picks?

Well, at least we won't have to wait until the last four or five games of the coming season to know the Dolphins aren't winning the division.

That's damning with faint praise. And Wilkins and Van Ginkel played nearly the whole season, right? So we sucked with them and we'll suck...

I wonder if all the Grier apologists will keep their mouths shut after this offseason.

The defense was already terrible.

New York, too.

Play? Or sit on IR?

Don't be intentionally obtuse.

Maybe he shouldn't have taken so many chances on players who got injured a lot?

Then he should have demanded that his GM draft better O linemen or pick up more of them in free agency. They're both to blame for the state of...

28-27 ring a bell?

Hard to do worse.

Not at all accurate. Every fan forum I was on back then, almost everyone wanted to draft Drew Brees. It was a no-brainer in 2000 but...

Wanny stayed 3.5 years and resigned when the team was 1-8 in his fourth season. His record went down every year. You have no argument. RT had...

Nope. Not if it's continual mediocrity or worse. RT went to a team with a hall of fame RB and a great defense. Except none of what you just...

But it's not common sense, it's excuse-making. No one forced the owner to cater to fan outrage AND there's absolutely no indication that coaches...

Except for a couple things. One, Wanny wasn't fired, he quit. At least officially. And two, he had the chance to draft Drew Brees and passed on...

10-7 at best. More likely 9-8.

I didn't see anyone advocating firing McDaniel this offseason. Lots of people are saying we need a new GM and possibly a new QB.

Yes, I am an older fan. That's helped me to accept the reality that what I think about the team, the QBs and the coaches means f***-all. The...

No, he's not mentally capable. He's a great athlete but that doesn't make him an elite QB.

Oh, it's GOING to change. Probably next year. McDaniel is going to feel the pressure from Grier who's going to feel it from Ross. They're going...

Sorry, but that's a whole, stinking crock. The ones not judging multiple seasons are the Pollyannas who want to judge this season simply as a...

At least Cam Newton made it to a SB.

Not me. I think Lamar Jackson is one of if not the most overrated QBs in the NFL.

I could ask you the same thing, since you're making no sense. I was talking about the last 5 years, not 50 years ago. 50 years ago, the Dolphins...

And the Dolphins haven't beaten anybody in no playoff wins.

The Bills have won how many playoff games in the last 5 years? I think that would be 5. We have won 0 in the last 23 years.

Everyone has injuries. The team that came back and beat us the last game of the season to steal back the division and that #2 seed had plenty of...

Yeah, I never understood how the hell a Recon platoon would ever get that ate the f*** up.

Well, not to be a nitpicker, but Heartbreak Ridge is fiction...

No one has balls in the NFL. Every objective person looking from the outside at this team knows in their heart of hearts that the style of...

Naw, that's too optimistic. What'll happen is that we'll go 9-8 and just miss the playoffs after losing some of our best defensive players and...

The thing is, we're stuck. There's no one available right now and we have crap for draft picks. Barring an unforeseen circumstance, Tua is all...

The bottom line is, we're not going to accomplish anything meaningful with the current front office in place and we're not going to have a...

I don't wish him gone but I wouldn't cry if he left either. I don't believe he has what it takes to compete for the crown in a stacked AFC.

You know, the haters might have a point. This team has tried one shortcut after another to get good, but haven't worked on the offensive line in...

Well, when everyone said they should be doing more to shore up the O-Line and they didn't, when a lot of people said that Grier was taking a lot...

Allen is pushed as elite, but he isn't. He can do ONE THING, though. He can beat the Dolphins. He always does. However bad you want to say he...

"A few guys?" They were missing all their best players on defense most of the year.

I'll stop you right there, because that's an outright lie. Buffalo was riddled with injuries this season. That's the only reason they lost six...

I know you're being sarcastic, but really, it just sounds ridiculous. There is no comparing Miami and Buffalo. They're superior in every way,...

If we didn't win this year, the only way we're going to win is if Allen misses most of a season with an injury.

If Tua is going to elevate his game, he's going to have to get more mobile. Not Lamar Jackson mobile but at least Baker Mayfield mobile. He's a...

AVG is gone and so is Wilkins. And don't have a 3rd or a 4th this year so I wouldn't be surprised if we trade a couple other players for picks.

Our record is not going to be as good next season if they have to let several players go to get under the cap.

And the next year?

Because we're not going to get anyone good that late in the first round.

I'd rather keep Tua for another two years and take our chances on a rookie after that.

Marino was never the same again after that injury. He could muster a few good games a year, but he wasn't the same QB.

Doesn't matter if it's an outlier, coming back from an Achilles on the plant foot could critically affect his passing game and his ability to...

And yet...he's in his late 30s and just tore his plant-foot Achilles. Don't be ridiculous.

Yeah, I have no interest in Kirk Cousins. We need to draft another QB within the next 3 years.

We were supposed to go into the AFC South, I believe.

That would certainly come as news to the 49ers and the Texans.

Has anyone done it any other way in the last 20 years?

Look, there's no good solution to the situation we're in. We dug another hole and now we're paying for it. If the FO signs Tua to a long-term...

Some MFer needs to ask Grier if he doesn't sign Tua, who he thinks is going to give big bucks to get him away from us.

Every decent team's QB played better against the Dolphins' defense.

Every team in the playoffs has dealt with key injuries. The Bills had a horrible spate of key injuries.

At least now the Cowboys and Eagles will be seen as the biggest disappointment in the NFL this season instead of the Dolphins.

Umm...if you've been a fan since 1970, then you have TWO SB victories that you could have celebrated.

I was answering the point posed in the original post, which would have required firing him. I don't want him fired, but I think he should be given...

How would I fix it? I'd get rid of Tua. I'd sell the farm to get someone better, however I had to do it. Tua is a good QB but he's not good...

This team is hopeless. They claw and scratch their way above mediocrity and can't get far enough up to make any difference. They lack mental...

McDaniel isn't going to get fired and Tua isn't going to get replaced. We'll have to suffer through a few more years of mediocrity before things...

If the Fins don't win a playoff game then it's not a great season.

And yet the Seahawks made the playoffs last year.

I heard they're 1.5 point underdogs.

No.

Yeah, but there's a difference between Chicken Little being hit by an acorn and a T-rex watching the Chicxulub meteor come down to fry the planet....

Could? Will.

Not a chance in hell. The Fins lose the division next week and then lose on the road in the first round. This team had every chance to take the...

Nothing can compete with how bad the Browns trading for and signing Watson has been.

That's pretty freaking bad.

I hope you're right, but I just don't see us scoring 30 this game. Not that the Ravens' D is as good as everyone is saying, just that our offense...

Shrug. It's not as if they all thought the Fins will get blown out. They have it as a close game won by the home team who also has a better...

I wasn't setting the high bar, KeyFin was. I was correcting his statement that holding Tyreek to 115 yards was an accomplishment. Tyreek has had...

Grey.

Oh dude, what a rollercoaster ride that game was. First Fiedler put us in 14 point hole, then once we came back from that, we tied the game with...

I was there in 2000 for our last playoff win, against the Colts. That's the biggest game I've ever attended.

Good luck, have fun.

It's all yours.

KC held him to 62. Philly held him to 88. Buffalo held him to 58. NE in NE held him to 40.

A couple have managed it.

Naw, I told them to cremate me.

Dude, if you saw how I dress on a daily basis... I only own one suit and that's just in case I have to go to a funeral.

What? When have I ever talked down McDaniel??

The supreme irony would be if the Browns went to the SB and lost to the Bucs.

He's going to have to take a "prove-it-year" discount at this point. No one is giving him the sort of money Denver did or anything close to it.

He needs to show Belichick in his cut-off hoodie.

Ironically, I was thinking the Saints were one of the teams who might be interested in him...

Speaking of teams that WERE in the playoff hunt until last weekend...the Broncos are benching Russell Wilson and will probably cut him in March.

And not give Jackson a short field by throwing four INTs.

Momentum didn't mean anything when we lost to the Titans or when the Niners lost to the Ravens. Both the Fins and the Niners had a buttload of...

I'm not saying this is a definite w for us, I'm just saying my opinion hasn't been swayed by the results of the Niners game. It was in my opinion...

Y'all know me. You know I'm not a pie-in-the-sky kind of fan. Last night's game doesn't worry me. The Niners played well on defense and pretty...

True. An IF is a slippery thing, though.

Maybe I got the players mixed up. I thought I read Berrios, but it might have been Chosen.

Looks like Brock Purdy is going to screw us out of the #1 seed all by himself.

Also sucks that Berrios is out next week with a concussion.

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Merry Christmas!

That was a nailbiter, but thank God they pulled it off!

Nope, I never thought they were going to beat the Eagles in Philly.

No, I wasn't. I said nothing at all before the Jets game.

Yes and no. They're more talented at some positions, less in others. They don't have better coaching, though. But the NFL, besides talent, is...

I tried that. I was positive we'd beat Buffalo. I was positive we'd beat the Chiefs. I was positive we'd beat the Titans. Every time I've been...

What about Conner Williams?

Games aren't just won from motivation, though. They're also won by talent, and there's not much of that on our offensive line right now.

No, I knew we could beat the Jets. Shoot, we beat them last year with Skylar in at QB.

Dude, the Pats lost 6-0 to that same Charger defense. There's no way the Pats are beating the Bills IN BUFFALO. I don't bet on football but I...

It doesn't really matter. They play the Pats next weekend and they're going to win that game because the Pats are worse than the Chargers....

Whaddya mean since last year? Since 2020.

That never seems to affect the best teams. They figure stuff out.

Neither of them has a chance. I have a feeling it's going to come down to the Bills at the Dolphins, week 18, for the division.

It's worthless. Games where one QB totally dominated the other often have both QBs with the same QBR.

QBR is a useless stat.

It's great that he's telling them that and I think he's doing as good a job as he can preparing the team. Time will tell whether that can make up...

https://www.nfl.com/news/salary-cap-expected-to-exceed-240-million-for-2024-season#:~:text=Sorry!

Can a unicorn deliver ice cream to my Christmas party in this fantasy?

Yeah, it's pretty much a must-win for the Dolphins.

Every favorite has a loss that's a danger to keep them out of the playoffs? No, they don't. San Francisco doesn't. Dallas and Philly don't....

People here act like it meant less than it did. It was disastrous, as far as the season goes. It makes it vital we win one of the next three...

God knows if Zach Wilson would have done better but at least he's more mobile than Siemien.

Sort of, because our offense scored 28 points and wasn't the reason we lost. Our defense let the Titans march down and score two TDs.

2008

CJ Stroud went out with a concussion if I remember correctly.

You think the Jets' D now is as good as Dallas' now? I mean, they lost two starters just in the game yesterday.

At the beginning of the season, sure.

Do you think it's good enough to do that against the Cowboys? Or the Ravens? Or the Bills?

Almost is a slippery word.

It's a very Dolphins scenario, though, post-Shula. Every season we've been competitive, there's been one game against a losing team that. had we...

It was enjoyable to see the Jets lose to the Dolphins twice this year. But this Jets team is a hollow shell of anything it was at the beginning...

The Dolphins could have caught ALL the breaks if they'd just done their job and beat the Titans. They didn't and now...

Season's over, man. The likeliest scenario is, we'll be playing our one playoff game in Buffalo, and losing it.

Well, that's the end of that.

We don't? On what timescale? Last year when Tua had 3 concussions and was backed up by Dumb and Dumberer?

Seriously?

Naw. He's not coming back this season.

The Ravens don't scare me, they just annoy me.

I don't. I hope in a few seasons, the years from 2002-2020 feel like a half-forgotten bad dream.

I think the Steelers wind up with a losing record.

You know, whether or not this Dolphins team is different or not, there's one NFL team that is JUST like the old Dolphins teams, where we'd be...

Exactly. I made a post about that a couple weeks ago, that the key to this season was winning against the Commanders, the Titans and the Jets....

Nope. You didn't say "most negative Dolphin fan here," you said "biggest negative Nancy here." Words have meaning. And even then, you would...

And again, you prove you don't pay attention even though you claim you do. This is the same thread where Destroyer has said we don't have a...

I've come to the conclusion that most of the talking heads work off the same set of talking points. They all say the same damn things over and...

Nope. Your MO is ultra transparent. :001_rolleyes:

It's the difference between an offensive coach who has a very controlled offense and a defensive coach who doesn't know what the hell he's doing...

Except I don't have an MO. And if I did, you wouldn't be the one clever enough to deduce it. I don't believe you. You've already lied in this...

Are unrealistic expectations better for you? Just asking.

Yes, really. You go on to prove it in your next paragraph. See. There you go. Your preconceptions. You say this on the SAME PAGE where I told...

By that logic, the Jets and Pats are going to beat Buffalo again and it won't even be a problem, right?

And we lost last season too...in Buffalo. And won in Miami. What's your freaking point?

Uhh...except we beat them in Miami LAST YEAR. With a worse defense and not as good an offense.

Oh, please. They have a chance of losing to US in the last week.

You'll be yelling at that damned cloud too if things break bad for us.

I'm not sure if I agree with that. Our biggest weakness this season has been playing teams with defenses that can get pressure with a 4-man rush.

The team that beat the Chiefs today doesn't look the same to me as the one that lost to the Pats.

All that needs to be said about Tannehill was that he was on a team with a great running game and a very good defense and still could never get to...

Bills only have two losable games left: the Cowboys in Buffalo and us in Miami.

Well, you all got your wish and the Bills won. Hope we all don't wind up regretting it.

The past matters because there've been many other seasons where not just this team but many other teams have only needed one win or two wins to...

No, I'm not going to crash anything because I'm not steering the car. The coach and the players are, and judging by how he's talking to the team...

I swear, it's like some of you haven't watched any Dolphins football the last 25 years. This time hasn't won the AFC East in FIFTEEN YEARS....

You finally got it? No, I doubt that. All you "get" is the preconceptions you bring in. And you know what you're free to do with those.

That sucks. RIP.

It doesn't take low confidence in the Dolphins to recognize that Josh Allen can take the Bills team on his back and drag them to the playoffs.

Dolphins' fans keep saying that, but I will tell you right now in front of God and everyone, that if the Bills win today, they're going to be...

I pulled up a video of the 2001 Colts-Dolphins MNF game and it struck me that the biggest mistake Miami made, thanks to Wayne Huizenga, was...

Would have been more historic if we hadn't lost to the Pats in the AFC Championship and faced the Bears again in the SB.

6 — Dec. 21, 1998, Dolphins 31, Broncos 21: Dan Marino outdueled John Elway with a big assist from WR Lamar Thomas, who scored three touchdowns....

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Let next year take care of next year. I'm worried about this season.

It's still a sure win. Pittsburgh just sucks that bad.

I wasn't happy about that. Pittsburgh in the playoffs would have been an easy out. If they don't make it, it opens up a slot for the Bills.

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Man, I am so rooting for the Rams in that game.

He's on a one-year contract.

Ah ok, misunderstood.

I assume you mean the Jets because we already beat the Pats twice.

I've been told (don't know whether I believe it) that it's an experiment to see whether they should put the MNF games on ABC or ESPN permanently....

VanGinkel's kids are adorable.

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Are the demons doing Crossfit? Because that seems like a weird exercise for demons...

I'm rooting for the Chiefs. I want the Bills all the way out of the playoffs.

Most SB teams had a buttload of luck.

I thought at first that it was an Achilles, but they would have put him on a cart for that.

The way he slammed his helmet on the ground, I don't think he's okay.

Yeah, I saw that. The way he slammed his helmet down, it looks bad.

Oh crap, Trevor Lawrence went down bad.

I hope it happens that way, but KC is playing badly, Dallas plays poorly on the road and I never count Buffalo as a win for us until it happens....

The way the Steelers and Browns are playing right now, the Bills are most likely going to make the playoffs.

I feel like Trevor Lawrence is a little overhyped. He's a good QB, but I don't think he's been consistent enough to be called a generational QB.

Naw. I've seen much worse much more recently.

Gosh you sound desperate.

If they can take the Chiefs in KC, they can take us in Miami. I hope the Bills lose bad.

I don't hate the Bills, I'm scared of them. They could lose to every other team in the damned league but they'd still beat us.

I'd rather just see the Bills totally out of the playoffs.

Yeah, well, I had no clue then just how badly the Bills would stumble. They hadn't lost to the Broncos yet at that time.

I believe I said that at the beginning of the season?

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:001_rolleyes: Do we have a roll-eyes emoji?:001_rolleyes::001_rolleyes::001_rolleyes::001_rolleyes: Oh yeah, there it is.

Or Jerry Rice.

Or possibly Abe Sapien.

I don't know that we lose the last three, BUT I think it's a good thing that we only HAVE to win the next three and the Bills lose one to win the...

You're not kidding. I was choking up when Jaelan was crying there on the field. Poor guy.

You wouldn't get along too well in the infantry.

Not worth the spot he was taken at.

Honestly, I thought that same thing at the time. As it turned out, I was dead wrong about Brady Quinn. Not about Ted Ginn.

I don't agree with that. Just winning a playoff game would be a huge step up, considering we haven't done it in 23 years.

I used to root for the Browns just because they were lovable losers and you had to hope they'd do well. Then they did the whole Deshaun Watson...

And I appreciate that. No one will be cheering louder than me if we steal one of those two games.

I'm totally calm. I tried to explain myself in a calm and civil manner and he acted like a smartass so I put him on ignore.

They've been to two SBs. Yeah, they lost that heartbreaker but at least they've been to one recently.

The Dolphins have at least won a couple SBs and the Chargers have at least been to one. The Browns and Lions are the teams who are really cursed.

I'd like to see him in the lineup for the Commies. They'll have a little bit of a boost on D from the Del Rio firing.

Yes, I know. I knew that before the first person or the second or the third said so. He hasn't played all year and it's twelve weeks into the...

Damn. Would like to have seen that, too.

Okay, I'm done with you.

Think I would rather have signed Shaq Leonard. JPP has been out of it for a while.

Herbert is only going to have a successful NFL career (as defined by wins and losses) if he gets the hell out of the Chargers. That organization...

I must have missed it when that happened. Or no, he must have missed it.

Nobody guaranteed a loss. I said when I go through the schedule, I mark them as probable losses. I doubt we can win against Baltimore in...

Comfortable? I don't know. I think this is the best team we've had since 2008, maybe since 2000. I think it's going to win the division and win...

And again, I do want them to win. Saying I don't want them to win because I don't predict them to win is just silly.

I want them to win every game. That doesn't mean I think they WILL win every game.

The problem I think we're going to have with Dallas is getting any pressure on the QB. Their O line has protected Dak pretty well and our D line...

The talking heads say it only counts if it was a winning team at the time we beat them.

Gonna be damned hard for them to attract a good HC candidate when their QB is an undersized underachiever and they don't have a first-round...

We just need to win the next three games. Buffalo will drop a game against either the Cowboys or the Chiefs, most likely, which will clinch the...

They do need it. Shame they're not getting it because they traded it to Chicago to get Bryce Young.

OK, I can call you insane if you want, but it seems rude. Then again, about the same level of rude as attacking someone for their opinion rather...

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I like Tua better than Herbert, but I think we also need to consider the coaching. Staley is horrible and has done nothing to develop Herbert.

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Leonardis visiting Dallas today.

Then don't. Never asked you to.

Dude, if you disagree, then disagree. I'm not forcing you to agree at gunpoint.

Sources say that Aaron Rodgers wants to play this season. He hasn't been cleared to practice yet, but he sounds like he will come back this...

The TEAM has to think week to week. Us thinking of multiple games harms no one.

I've heard Saleh is safe.

Thank God we have Mike McDaniel and not that half-wit who coaches the Chargers.

I thought they were allergic to TDs.

Yeah, I was giving a Bills fan crap about crying over the refs, asking where he was when the Fins played them.

Hopefully. I'd rather think the Chargers suck than the Ravens are that good.

They look a TD better than the Chargers at the moment...

Chargers look like crap.

I don't. He's a cocky SOB.

What's going to be funny is when the entire AFC North makes the playoffs except for the Bengals.

I won't be rooting for the Bills. Ever.

I wouldn't bet on that one. The Chargers ain't the Eagles. And the refs don't like them nearly as much.

Thank you Eagles and thank you refs!

Thank you Josh Allen.

Then we could have traded back to fifth and gotten a buttload of picks AND Tua.

The Eagles are screwing us. The way KC looks, they're not going to beat the Bills either.

Hell, we tried to do the same thing in 2019. Wish Flores had played along with it.

Naw, the talking heads already said it only counts if they had a winning record at the time we played them.