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Be happy dude. Let me think of something you can take from this game... Oh I know... "This game proves that we dont JUST LOSE at home. We lose...

I mean, hes probably young...geez. Have you sense?

Wahhhhh....wahhhhhh...wahhhh....:tongue2::tongue2:

Ask your mom...she will tell you!

...or the Pats, Jets, Steelers, Saints, Colts, Bucs, Falcons, Cheifs, Browns..... But we are better than the Bills. Lmeister will find...

Good Job, Losers....LOSERS, LOSERS, LOSERS! The Fins are really panty waste. They suck. LMAO. Pathetic *** punks.

ROFLMAO...I knew I could count on you to find consolation in a loss.

Good effort on both throws Brandon. This team sucks....wow! ROFLMAO..... good news, FireTonySparano.com should be up and running soon.

ROFLMAO...yeah, thats gonna happen. This team is going to finish 9-7.

4-4 is exactly what we should be. We have played 4 good teams, 4 not so good teams. We are average....maybe a bit below. But not...

I called it. The Fins suck vs good teams. Hate me if you want. I dont care. You are irrelevant to me. But whatever...:up:

ROFL..the Dolphins are the most painful team to watch in the NFL. They cant block and they cant kick FGs anymore..even. LMAO. LOSERS!!!!

Shameful? I thought losers would be loving this....:up:

This game is turning out like expected it might.

I am a winner...there are many losers here. So, whatever.

There will be quit if we lose. We lose, we are losers. LOSERS. The only way we wont be is to win.

Wow. Reality has set in. After all the butt kissing you have done to get the losers here to like you...and check it. The truth I told you IS still...

No.

We should not blame the refs is a "what if"? We need to play better is a "what if"? C'mon man, you know better than this. We still had a...

Lmeister...i am going to explain this to you once more. Elite is not competing. Elite is winning. Second rate is continuing to come close in games...

You may be tired of it, but its true. We still had opportunities to win this game. Blaming the refs is easy. Taking responsibility to play...

Assuming there is football next year. I never like to look to much to "next year". I am old, and I realized along time ago with the Fins, next...

This is wrong on two levels. One, even if we recover that fumble (or more exact, if the refs would have not blown the call) they still have...

This is bull****. It wasnt a dead ball. If it was, it wouldnt have been reviewable. You guys got a big break. Dont try to say it wasnt. That call...

Somehow I doubt that....:wink2:

I think the Steelers today were the beneficiary of a refs call. It happens. But, if you are going to flip the scenario, then lets flip it all the...

I am not sure what your point is and I dont know if you are getting my point, either. We lost. The Steelers won. Their playcalling was good...

I am dumb? I am sure the people who hired me to do Intel work and have me deployed to Iraq to help fight this GWOT would love to be told of your...

I dont hate them at all. I have been a fan forever. I have a tattoo on my leg. But, I wont lie about them. I wont say they are good when they are...

I agree that the call was horrible. However, bad calls are a part of football. You think we are the only team to ever get a horrible call against...

Really? My first game was in 1971. When was yours? I have been a fan a long, long time. I actually agree with you that we should have won. But...

They dont like me because I tell the truth. Truth taints this forum? Should I lie? Ok. This team should be so proud of the way they played...

It was a horrible call. But that is not the reason we lost. We lost because when we had chances to score, we did not. Focus your anger where it...

Ok. If losing, although you outplayed them, makes you feel great, you have that right. It makes me shake my head and think we are the same old...

Bad clock management surprises you? Seriously?

No they didnt'. We still had a chance to win after the horrible call. All we had to do was get the ball to the 35 yard line. If there had been no...

A bunch of ****ing little *******....blaming other posters because the Fins suck. Whatever. :knucks:

All of these ******* seem to care about being "close"...and they hate me because the Fins suck.

You put me on ignore because I say things you cant handle. Why get pissed with me? I didnt do it. i didnt make one bad play. you guys know I am...

I agree. People blaming Henne are misplacing their frustrations. Its not Henne. Its not the Refs. Its the offense's inability to execute, and...

You're such a tough guy. :up:

No they didn't. Bad calls are part of football. We needed to score TDs and we kicked FGs. When we NEEDED a FG, our playcalling and execution...

Yeah? Just like last year...with the Colts. And the Saints. And beat the Jets twice...And went 7-9. Reality...Deal with it!

Horrible series....why run that play before the two minute warning? They werent set well, it mean nothing. Bad bad game. FIRE SPARANO!

Same Ol Dolphins...ROFLMAO!

ROFL....Same Ol Dolphins!

:knucks:

I would love to...I'll buy the beer everytime we kick a FG. You can buy when we score TDs...right now, its me buying 3 rds to 1.

ROFL...stfu to me? You do realize we are still losing right? :knucks:

I am defending him. He keeps asking me where i am...I think he wants to come watch a game with me. :hi5:

Tampa Ozzy. Tampa. Whats it to you?

Ozzy is entitled to his low standards.

Ozzy doesnt.

LOL...That was easy. Hey Ozzy, you watching? yeah, good to kick those FGs...ROFLMAO!!!!

A FG? Who knew?

First and goal? Lets go FG unit. Come on Carpenter, kick it through.

No. They wont. But you are already in loserville, so they are coming to you! :lol:

I thought I was the only one who thought like this. :up:

ROFLMAO....Just like that! Gift wrapped two possessions.... Pittsburgh just showed what good teams do when they get turnovers. Go...

Didn't you hear? Its good we kicked those FGs.

Good Job, pass D. Third and 16...wow.

Ok. We'll see. Glad you are satisfied, though. :hi5:

I'll take the points, sure. But I am not thrilled about getting two possessions inside their 20 and coming up with three points each. If you are,...

how was this guy not our STs coach all year? oh yeah, I know. Sparano hires the assistants.

Lets get a good punt and good coverage.

Defense very very good...offense, non existant. Its not even worth calling the offense bad. Its as if they have just mailed it in on two gift...

Learn to read. He responded to me by calling me lame.

you surprised by this?

ROFL..yeah, I am the reason that the offense sucks. Great job, jack! I mean, Adam.

GREAT JOB OFFENSE....You guys rock!

Time for another FG. Good job, Offense.

This offense is what I thought they were...LAME.

I agree. I think Pittsburgh is the toughest team in football. Which is what makes this such a great opportunity. On two previous opportunities...

I think in the end it doesnt matter...I dont think we have the coaching to take this team, regardless of these two guys, to the post season....

Really? So what would our record be without these two?

I have two dogs and I miss them dearly. I cant wait to get home...only 50 more days.... I think we are in agreement. We get the opportunity to...

Same could be said for courage and fortitude...but whatever. :no:

I realize homers are going to have Sparano rated higher than he should be...but this is absurd. Lovie Smith, John Fox, Jim Caldwell have all taken...

Your wait is over...I just saw this thread...and obviously, the "Voice of Reality" vehemently disagreeing that going 1-2 EVER is fine and...

3-2 might be a good spot, because at least we won three games. Why would any team 3-2 think that going 1-2 in the next two games is good or even...

I know a Mike O...Mike Oliva..I dunno if its the same one...we were on an AOL board years ago. Hes a little *****. Some of you can handle the...

Geez man...I am in a ****ing combat zone...give me a break. What you said about YOURSELF, I agree. You said it.

winning is winning, losing is losing. Points matter.

You are ecstatic about being 3-2? Seriously? Wow.

I think if the Packers would have had Finley and Matthews, we probably wouldnt have won that game. And they were still playing when I spoke about...

Ok. Whatever. But if you think the majority here are ready to admit that the Fins are second rate, than you and I just disagree. Go back and...

I am not surprised one bit that you feel that way.

I have earned my stripes as a Fins fan...I have probably seen more losses than you many of you have seen games, total. I have watched this team...

Alot of people dont believe facts. You can have an opinion that can also be a fact. Its my opinion that the Browns suck. I think thats a fact, but...

People react negatively because I say things they dont want to hear, and yet, they cant refute it. Why? Because deep down they know in their heart...

In todays touchy feely political correct world, I am a somewhat of a pariah. I went to catholic schools as a kid...honesty was brutal. But...

DJ...lighten up. And get your sentences in coherent order. I am approaching my "time here without regard"....how I am approaching and in...

uh, yeah. My first Fins game was in 71. How long ago was that?

But they are not mutually opposite, either. An opinion can be absolutely true. Esp if it continues to get borne out week after week.

I think the road to elite starts Sunday. Winning doesnt mean we are....we still have more games to win. But...if we are going to be elite we need...

Thank you for getting it.

I learn so much about American culture from this board. I am learning that READING is a lost art. It just is. Growing up in the 70s, it was taken...

They try...but I annihilate them before they get a chance! :knucks:

Reading is harder for some than others. Try to reread the original post and if you still think credit from the GB win is contingent on beating the...

Not about what will happen. Its about the opportunity for it to happen. We have a chance to start the climb to elite status. It starts Sunday. We...

If you dont wear rose colored glasses you will be put on ignore lists or warned to shut up. Just sayin'. :wink2:

By all means, if you cant handle hearing and reading the truth, put me on Ignore. Big L-miester already has. Denialists will always hate me.

This is a great post. The next opportunity comes Sunday vs Pittsburgh. We know we arent bad. We are about to see if we are on our way to being...

I am glad you are done with the "what if" game, because its meaningless. Those things didnt happen. We beat an injury riddled team in OT. Thats...

I give us credit for beating GB. But if we want to stop being "second rate" yes, we need to win our "hard" games. We need to be other teams, "hard...

You just cant handle the truth, little man. :up:

Who is calling them a top three team? In what universe? Please provide some info to back that up. The team that started opening day for them is...

You might want to re read the OP. Right now, we def are...unless you can make a case that we arent. The opporunity (maybe you just dont know...

Welcome to my world. He is in way over his head. He should be an OL coach in Cleveland, not the HC in Miami. He sucks. Truly. This game shouldn't...

Probably because they are in the same division? But why does it matter? What is Henne and his supporters afraid of? Why wouldnt he want to be...

Nonsense. Its not too early to compare them. It may be too early for the comparisons to stick for their entire careers..but its proper to compare...

Based on what we've seen...not what MIGHT happen, Sanchez is far and away better than Henne. Its not even close.

And responsibility for the team comes with the territory of being a starter.

Really? What if you dont get a huge game out of him this week? What if he sucks? Then what? Let him marinate more? Adjust your expectations...down?

Nonsense. The expectations of fans is not too high? Look at all the people here defending the losing. Its not Pro Bowl vs not Pro Bowl...its do we...

LOL...the Fins need other teams toi lose to take "heat" of them? ROFLMAO. This is classic. Dude, I heard you were a Hard Charger. You remind me of...

Why does wanting him to play better and lead us to victories instead of close losses equate to wanting to bury him?

ROFLMAO. Unrealistic expectations? Surely you jest. If its unrealistic to want to win home games, then yeah, maybe we are "unrealistic". I mean,...

Not at all Padre. If we go 8-4 the rest of the way, I will gladly admit I wrong about Sparano. But if we go 6-6, will you? Or will you maintain...

Hey Boik...I was called a fool here....is this one of the times I am supposed to expect it? Do I have to just take this? Just checking. But if...

Or...I will continue to be proven right; week after week after week. I was told I was being reactionary, called names, mocked, insulted after...

And then he got lucky when Bledsoe got hurt, Brady became the QB and he won three SBs. I will not be careful about leash lengths. You guys...

To be justified, it has to work. Belichick has won three SBs...he has earned the right to do what he wants. Sparano has never even won a playoff...

Great post!

Ok...as many people have attested here, our schedule in 08 was pretty lame. Those arent people like me...they are people who claim that we really...

The first sentence in bold captures the essence of "you people" as well as anything I have seen. We arent 1-15 and that is all that matters to you...

What was his good first move?

I am curious on what you are basing this opinion? If he is a great coach, how do rate Wannstedt? Not a trick question, just curious.

We can still do that. Win our next three games. I think that would speak volumes to the league and us fans. But too many fans seem to be...

But do you want this whole thing maintained if continuity means we win 9 games a year? Either Tony can successfully coach or he cant. If he...

Why is talking about the losses making everyone miserable? Why are the two losses not the reason people are miserable? I never understand that...

I agree with this. It would be great if TS could prove that he has the abilityt to make this team a winner. My opinion is that he does not and...

Its a fact that the person who wants our coaches held accountable need a "double dose of Zanax (sic)"? I love how those of you who sing endless...

You are a beast, Rick. This Kumbaya Routine was wearing on me too.

Yep. I even got a warnning because people got all emotional. We lost. It sucks. But don't blame us. Blame the team. Good post.

But if you are praising, you can call other names, even in the title of thread. If you are attacked while "bashing" (actually, just telling the...

Amen. But they live under different rules than we do. They can tell us what to do, what to say, what to think, and call us names. All we can do is...

This is as accurate a description between me and you guys as there is. I am a bottom line, so-what, Final Score kinda guy. You guys focus on other...

No no no....we shouldnt hold them accountable. C'mon man. Its fans like us who are the problem. :wink2:

I said I was leaving the boards last night instead of continuing to engage you guys when a mod was waiting to bust me for simply making a point....

I dont even know what this means. A player gave 110%? And that wasnt good enough...so now he will give....120%? WTH is that? What not just give...

rofl!

This is the best post I have ever seen in this forum. :up::hi5::hi5:

Its to be expected. Thats how it rolls here, or so I was told when I was warned in another post for recirprocating when people called me names....

Cool. If thats the case, can we go ahead and adjust our record to 4-2, but them each with an additional loss, and lets move to game 7.

I was wonderin'....whats up with that? But its cool.

Rick, Rick, Rick...my oldest Dolphin Friend. Didnt you hear? Losing at home means nothing. Oh, and in case you hadn't noticed, we are EMOs. And...

LOL...you dont know me very well. If we beat the Packers and lose to the Steelers, I will say we are what I thought we might be...a .500 team. Not...

No. I know there were alot of "316" monikers around.... When I first got email along time ago my wife put that in my first email address and I...

If the STs had played better, the game might have been different. And if we would have made plays vs the Jets, we might have won. And if we...

I'm glad their feeling all good about themselves. Thats nice to know.

I agree....but good luck with this!

ok bro. You win. I was wrong in my tone. apologies to those I offended.

I dont take it too seriously. Just pointing out that dissent is never welcomed. Anywhere. Not in Iran, not in Venezuela...not on a Fins message...

LOL...I beg to differ.

Uh...ok. 41-14?

[/B] I am so glad I am not being insulted. I was assured I was not being. Taken for a moron and sounding like an idiot are compliments. Boik,...

Boik, This isnt insulting at all. No, its just disagreeing. And GMJohnson liked him just disagreeing. :hi5:

Yes, Boik, This isnt insulting. He wasnt insinuating at all that I was a caged animal. Never.

ROFL....so if the team doesnt say it will have a "high powered offense" we can't assume they thought it would be? The apologizing for this...

And when you play mix and match all preseason, there is no time to est any chemistry with the Oline. It will take ALOT of time at this rate.

Unless many on the road have a history of going off the cliff. Then, driving in the wrong direction is comforting. I know why I am getting...

I think you might be missing the relevant picture. We are the youngest team in the division? So what. No points for that. No tie breaker, no...

Wow. The OP said we expected Marino, Shula,and Perfection. I said it was looking less than Hasselback, Wannstedt, and far from perfect. How...

2-2. Both home games. I dont know how it gets clearer than that. As someone else has pointed out, we have lost like our last five home games. You...

Come on, bro. I wasnt "maybe right". I was absolutely right. You can say I got lucky, thats fine. But I know better. I have a good take on...

The Jets game showed me that we are not elite, as in one of the teams that will compete for the AFC Ch. The Pats game made think that we wont...

Ok,,,I thought you were disagreeing that we are second rate. I dont think I am wrong...unless I was overly optimistic. Maybe we arent even a...

I agree with this.

I won't respond since you have already given me an official warning. Must be nice....to be able to post and then warn and eventually ban anyone...

But what did you expect? To go 19-0 in Miami? Its crazy stuff, brother. :knucks:

You guys are incredible. You can stand the Jets game....Lmeister even like it (very strange). You can stand the Patriots game. But you cant stand...

Championship? Championship? ROFL...its not like we're unhappy with Sparano because we keep losing in the playoffs. We are unhappy with him because...

Not happy at all about losing. I wanted more than anything to be wrong. But when Losmiester and Concfucious were saying how irrational I...

I think you are wrong. Heres why: Your analogies are horrible. Dan Marino? I dont even know if Chad Henne is the next Matt Hassellback or Jake...

ROFLMAO...you would think so. BTW, Conudicus, how "irrational" am I looking this morning? huh? I guess you might say, I "get it earlier than...

Yes, Ozzy, we know each other well enough. We disagree on this...although, I think my position is even stronger this morning that it was Monday!

"Hello, I am calling with a message for Da Phins...This is reality, and I am just checking in with him.... He said in a post the Fins were...

ROFLMAO...this is good stuff.... Uh, yeah. I have read some of the stuff written on these boards by some of the "smarter" posters, or so I was...

I have a grip. If any area of the team sucks, hes responsible. Quit making excuses. We have been bad in STs for two seasons plus 4 games now. He...

He has to bear responsibility for the teams performance...or lack of success. He cant keep blaming other people, coaches, things. If...

Pacellian Experiment...ROFL...good point.

Go PoFo, HiFi, or HoMo....I dont really care. I just want a coach who will get this team ready to play. This guy is not it.

Thats really the wrong question to ask. IMO, the right question is "Who is responsible for getting this team ready on a regular basis"? I think...

Who is responsible for the team giving up 21 points? The HC has to be responsible.

And the HC is responsible for it. And it sucks. So.....:knucks:

Now its Stephen Ross's fault? ROFLMAO. No, its not. They wanted Brandon Marshall, he paid for him. They wanted Karlos Dansby, he paid for him. He...

ROFL....this is absurdity on big tall stilts. Sparano is the HC. He takes the heat. If he wants to fire this guy, do it. But hes ultimately...

When I look at a team like Pittsburgh, I dont even know of TS could be on that staff.

Nonsense. Hes the HC, if something goes wrong with this team, he takes the heat. Who the hell is this Parcells guy anyway? This is a decision...

What in the world kind of drivel is this? We need a coach NOW? How about we needed to be coached before the getting beat by the Jets? How about...

Wait a minute? You guys think I am taking two accounts to debate you guys? Please. Dont flatter yourselves. First of all, I dont seek or yearn for...

This is just foolishness and if you have an IQ over 60, you know it. I must confess, I expected someone like you to come up with the Steelers...

I dont think the Colts are elite. The Steelers are a different story. Baltimore didnt run up and down the field on them. They are playing with...

How predictable and foolish some of you are. The Steelers played a great team with their third string QB and it took a great defensive play by...

Am I? The only team Minnesota has beaten is the Lions...a winless team. Point being, we dont know how good the Vikes are this year. The Jets...

i think it will show alot about this team. Even when we were going 1-15, cancelling the season wasnt an option. But it is reasonable to...

I never said we suck. I said we were not elite. If we win that game, you could make a point that we were turning the corner and learning how to...

That is what you disagree with. But what about it was unintelligent? Big diffrence in just disagreeing and the argument being stupid.

If we correct them, sure. IF...

No doubt. Thanks for the words. I consider our disagreements here a privelege. Our debates are nothing in the grand scheme. I was in a cafe in...

This does not bode well for a championship run.

They are Arabs. Most speak French; The Sudan and Somalia are the drivers of instability. Ethiopia (if you can believe it) is the "ideal" nation...

I am "mentally challenged" now? Because we disagree? Seriously? wow. Do I need to give you my resume to post now? I have BA degree from St...

You are the Fan police? You are the final authority of who can root for this team? And how they can do so? I never EVER said pack it in and...

I am not making a mountain out of a molehill. I am making an assessment of us losing a game at home (in Primetime), against an opponent missing...

The Saints are elite by virtue of winning a SB 8 months ago.

Did I? I dont remember that. I have never been that down on KL...I have been much more down on the other DE...I think Langford has pretty much...

Ok. We'll see.

For someone doesnt care about "reputation" and mock drafts, you sure go off the deep end when brought up...LOL. I will keep offering my...

Unless I am mistaken, you were the one here that pointed out that some people here have real bona fides as talent evaluators. No? Was that not...

Why? Do Jets fans tell the truth about their team? I havent said that anyone is in denial because of how far they go to make their point. One...

You are helping make my point. Elite teams' players find a way to keep their footing, scoring when they have the opportunity, and taking...

I am not acting like anything. And I am entitled to my opinion? Yes, if it means as one poster said, "being the most despised poster on this...

Others keep complaining about a point I made (and none, IMO, have satisfactorily answered the points I made) yet I am told to "let it...

I should chill when the Fins lose, but those here freaking out about my assessment of them are ok? Just checking! :hi5:

Why was it ridiculous? Because you disagree with it? Oh, I see. The brilliance on this sight is mindnumbing! :up:

Is reading not your forte' or did you just choose not to read the reasons I gave for us not being elite? I didnt say we suck...I said we are...

Who thought that EVER? LOL!! But you are an incredible "self marketer"...people here are overlooking that obvious lack of football judgment and...

LOL..yeah, well, I was just told HE was one of the smart ones! Go figure! :knucks:

Learn from him? Seriously? The guy who had Jimmy Clausen as the top prospect in the whole draft? Surely you jest. :wink2: Whatever...I am not...

:up:

Its absolutely a must win.

Most who deny reality cannot phathom dealing with it consistently. But once you do, its liberating. I dont think my team is always right. I dont...

Wow. I have def struck a nerve with you, undeniably so. You must have been the one on the website that had Jimmy Clausen going #1. Okay then,...

I dont agree that I have a responsibility as a fan to act a certain way. I root for them every Sunday and hope like hell that they win. But I dont...

We can agree or disagree on each line..but to say that you are irrational to make these observations after three games is IMO, irrational. I think...

His statement is self explanatory, just like mine was. You have a problem with me questioning him, but you have no problem questioning me, or with...

We dont come to this board at all. You come individually, as do I, and every other person. My outlook is not optimistic, to be sure. But then,...

Good post. Outstanding, actually.

"its just one game"....what a mantra. I love it. Nothing to be gleaned from any game, huh? I guess we should all wait until the season is over...

The Vikings dont appear to be very good this year. The Jets seemed to be in alot of turmoil and we couldnt beat them, with all their problems....

I made an offer to Confucious, he refused. As for as I am concerned, its over between us.

Be a man Confucious....Do you wanna bet how the Fins season ends or not? I've got $100 that they dont make it past the first round of the...

Name one that didn't.

Sure it does. Is it ok?

Naturally, the Pats suck! :up: It would be nice to dominate them and make me totally look like a fool (I know, some of you guys are going to say...

ROFL...this is actually funny. Very funny.

Obviously we disagree. And I was told I should go shoot myself by someone who disagrees. I am not complaining, I am not asking the mods to jump...

Ok. Lets take it from your point of view. Were we upset or are the Jets just better? If we were upset, is that ok? You are ok with that?...

As opposed to having my head buried in the sand? :knucks:

OMG...hold me up. That was so funny. Good stuff, Johnson. :up:

Were you wanting to bet about the outcome of this season for the Fins? It kind of got lost in your litany of puns designed to demean my opinion....

Thanks bro. Its lonely sometime, but its just the way it is.

The 07 Giants. You are correct. They shocked the world, so, it can happen. In that game, their Dline absolutely dominated the oline of the...

Ok...point taken. I should have said, "all of those who are okay with losing..." It was easier to just say losers and I took the easy way out. I...

I hope you are right...but folding at home has a ring of years past...and predictable results. I hope I am proven wrong. Good news....The Fins...

And defending losers makes you seem like a loser...but take heart; you are not alone. There is plenty of company here. Emerson said once, "A...

I agree with this...I dont know why my statements are controversial. You are correct. We are not elite. We may be. We could be. But we are not yet.

No. I will accept nothing less than being in the AFC Champ game. Anything else is a failure. Big time.

Instant gratification? Uh....we are in year three, there Vermont. Go to the store and get some Green Mountain coffee...wake up and get with the...

Cant expect people who defend this loss to be good at math, either..LOL!! Regardless, 2-1, or whatever...this team is weak. If they were not,...

Wow...bold words. I think I have a clue. I bet we dont win the division, I bet we dont win a playoff game. Lets put our money behind our words....

But a second rate OC makes a team second rate. But I dont even buy that. We scored enough points to win. Giving up 31 points...maybe we have a...

Or..we could use them to do better than we did last year...not worse. Last year we beat the Jets twice. We will not do that this year. But...

Is this time for insults? I could go down that road, but I will not. You seem to be okay with losing. Its cool, bro. I am not okay with it. I...

Are we the same as last year? Is that what you are saying? There may or not be elite teams. But there are second rate teams...teams that will...

Just like every other year. I do seem to figure it out sooner than most. I knew Saban sucked after we lost to the Bills in the second season. I...

You help your chances by winning games you should win. You dont help your chances by losing division games at home.

Not near going to jump off a cliff...For the Fins? You gotta be kidding me. I just made a point and LOSERS came from everywhere to dispute it....

The "Big L" Brigades are out in full force today. Good post, LMeister. :no:

I appreciate you being honest and realistic. Far too many are not. Excuse here, excuse there, excuse on top, underneath, on the side....stop it....

Yep...woulda coulda shoulda...and once again under this coaching staff...we did not. Its habitual.

It has become somewhat of a mantra...."just wait, we'll improve"...and in waiting we've gone 4-12, 6-10, 1-15, 7-9...and one playoff win? And...

Oh this is rich. Because they came down to our stadium and laid the smack on us, I am now invited to be a jets fan? Thats a pathetic response....

No worries bro..we just disagree. You are fine with losing. I am not. There is no right or wrong, good or bad. We just disagree.

I think we just disagree. To me losing is terrible. We lost-hence, it was a terrible outing. You think the Colts care that they played ok and...

Unfortunately, this is "old school" thinking. People are going to call this "reactionary", "flying off the handle", "sky is falling" "doom-gloom",...

No guarantee any of this will be better next year. None. Who else might we lose? You never know whats going to happen. We are what we are...and...

If losing in Prime time after your best practice in two years gives you reason to be optimistic, dont let me rain on your parade. Be optimistic...

or we would go 7-9, or best case, we would go 11-5 and lose in the playoffs first round...and some loser would be here telling me that "its okay...

you know how many years I have dealt with this, "its only one loss" junk? Seems like forever. I know its only one loss, but there is alot to be...

Yes. A thread that tells the truth makes it second rate. Only in Miami Dolphins forums. This is the only franchise I know whose fans cannot accept...

Absurdity. All of it. This was our biggest game so far without a doubt. If you dont realize that, then that says more about you than I ever can....

This is meaningless. Only things that matter now are what happens this season. We just lost a game, by all accounts, we should have won...except,...

But we didnt. Just like we didn't beat the SB winning Saints (at home) when we should have, just like we didnt beat the SB runner up Colts (at...

We cant go on hating on Wanny. My god, brother, that was what, 6 seasons ago? Is MW the only guy who can coach in this league? Our mistakes,...

I dont understand taking away "positives" from a loss. I never will. This league is about winning. When you win, its all good. When you lose, its...

I dunno. Yeah, I guess. I have high expectations. But regardless of what expectations were, and regardless of by whom, you or me, the result is...

This is right. If we get more explosive on offense and someone who can cover a TE, we have a chance. Right now, we are "just a good team". There...

No positives from a loss. Ever.

I have never understood split loyalties. I feel about him the same way I did about Marty Lyons, Wayne Chrebet or any other Loser Jet player. I...

This is not about proving the "experts" wrong. I think its about proving to themselves, and in the coaches perspective, proving to the owner that...

But we need him. Whether he starts or not is not really important. KM will get his reps, to be sure, but this is a long season. We are going to...

I know....I liked him and Atari Bigby....I wanted them both (and thats kind of a big deal because being a USF fan, we sorta detest UCF). But I...

If we are going to temper our emotion because the Bills offense sucks, lets acknowledge then that our offense played a pretty decent defense. They...

Fair enough. They arent good. But we played them there last year and did not dominate them. So, I see improvement. And if a bad team sucks you...

ROFLMAO...good stuff. Anyway, sometimes you see guys get hurt and its just a freak injury. Not this one. He got absolutely buried by two guys. It...

Gotta get all over Shiancoe. Hes a big guy and can make big plays. Have the LB jam him up at the Line and then get SS help on him past ten yards.

And in the Sugar Bowl against Bama the next year, he was the best player on the field. Better than Sean Smith, better than Hightower, better than...

Its a long season. We need IAF healthy to be in the rotation to help keep you Koa healthy.

I think people thought by getting Dansby and Marshall, getting rid of Ginn, Henne having another year of experience, a TC for our Oline to gel,...

I dont think every team is under the same urgency. If the Colts or Texans lose (one will), there isnt going to be alot of fallout either way....

I think this is 100% true. But I also have to say that I am disappointed in Parcells. And Ireland, and Sparano. But there is no time to lament...

I think this was a big part of it. I dont think hes feeling it and he doesnt want to get "fired". I am not saying this team can't succeed or even...

I doubt it. He is all about the "Fan Experience". The best thing for the fan experience is to win games. Lose 8 or 9 games again this year, and...

I agree. Hes coaching like someone who has a ten year contract. He doesnt. And he better win this year....more than last year. The owner has...

No. If Nalbone is cut, he must clear waivers. Is he even eligible for PS? Wasn't he active last year?

Good call.

I wouldnt be surprised if SS is inactive. Does he play STs? The M.O. of this staff is to inactivate the last position players unless they are on STs.

It was two bad choices. JA is better than SS. That is obvious to even an untrained eye. Obviously, Todd Bowles and Sparano both think so.

As opposed to what? The way Sean Smith shut down Sam Hurd last week?

Lets hope it works out for the Fins. This is not anyone here vs Sean Smith. Its a collective opinion shared by many (and the coaches) that Smith...

This is an excellent observation.

Its not personal. I just dont see how he fits with the kind of defense we are building. We are not a finesse team. We are physical..and he will...

I think this is key. I havent been a fan of this regime since last year (when we started 0-3, blew the game vs the Saints and finished 0-3) but...

Hopefully.

And yet...hes still starting over Smith.

I am not a coach...I didn't make this move, they did. I just agree with it. I think they thought last year that he was a rookie and they...

And if he can play, I think Sean Smith might be jettisoned. SS does not fit this regimes style of player. Hes not tough. He plays weak. He doesnt...

I have to agree. Sean Smith is not making improvements. He just isn't.

Yes, we do. Hence the move to hide Sean Smith...way over on the end of the bench. He was a horrible liability.

At least I figure the coaches see the same thing I do...Sean Smith sucks. There really is no sugar coating it, though I have tried. He can't cover...

Does this say anything about the Jets corps of WRs, that a guy who couldnt beat out either of two UDFA, actually three if you add in Bess, and yet...

If we start 0-4 and finish under .500, yes he should be fired and with Mr. Ross, I think he will be fired. This guy is spending alot of money...

Good work on this. But, would we be done "rebuilding" if we Smith, White, Merling, and Turner were all solid players?

I read it, I re read it. I stand by the fact that if a team is winning most of its games (NE is a great example) there aren't going to be alot of...

Its the way to build the foundation of your team. Its the way to stay out of salary cap hell. Next year (if there is football) there will be a...

You missed the larger point of that article if thats what you took from it. The reason good teams dont have room for draft picks is because their...

It stands to reason that a team that is winning alot of its games isn't going to have alot of room for draft picks. Our cupboard was bare...we...

Exactly. This is a great post. If we continue down this road, we are going to be an average NFL team. Not 1-15. Not with this trifecta. But...

Our other second is hardly a "quality starter". I'd say the same goes for Clemons. I'd say we hit on our 1st and 4th, with the jury our on Smith...

But its nearly impossible not to improve after being 1-15. But this front office and coaching staff I'd say, as of today, is about a C to C- IMO....

when you look at the players picked between the end of the first round and in the second....their record isn't good. Philip Merling-avg at best...

I am not down on, Henne. but I am a little bit down on the team. They look lethargic. I am not noticing any urgency...this from a team that has...

I agree completely with this. This is coaching. And TS needs to feel the urgency. Last year we were 7-9...the owner spent a whole lotta money to...

What makes you think the CB position is not going to be a weakness? Or, asked another way, what have you seen in SS game that gives you reason to...

I think its fair to be critical with the FO on these picks..merling as well. Merling was the #32 pick in the draft and never played like a high...

I understand hes your friend and I bet he is a great person. But he has had a chance. How many practice reports have we heard that "PW sucked...

Honestly, I have never been enamored with him,and I have never understood what the excitement over him was? Physically, hes like Fred Smoot,...

I have to admit, I am not a huge fan of him myself. I am really surprised the Trifecta picked him. He is a finesse corner. Vontae D is classic...

I agree about no excuses...I am sick to death of them. I just don't know how much better Henne could have thrown the ball to Marshall. If Marshall...

Not so much...Favre is 100%, without a doubt, completely certain coming back. He is as certain to be on the Vikings as Pennington is to be on the...

I agree. I would be worried about our team if he wasn't worried about his job. He was not very good last year. Ok, he was a rookie. He should be...

Thought the exact same thing. "Easy bro..."

Disagree completely. Hes a Jet...as long as he is, I hate'm and will never cheer for him.

I'll be shocked if Misi isn't starting.

Any GM that doesn't consider risk vis a vis Ronnie Brown is inept. It has to be considered. The guy misses every fourth game. That is huge. Esp at...

Never. Thats not how these guys roll. Not for a 29 yr old running back. I'd say they will offer him 2 year, 8 million dollars, take it or leave it.

All of this talk about whats his incentive to stay...I think he has no incentive to leave. He has zero demands on his time now. And we should be...

I don't know what he said that was wrong. Henne is routinely accepted as the most prolific QB at UM and who here doesn't hope that he wins three...

I think BH will have 80+ receptions and 8 TDs. Maybe not Pro Bowler, but one of the best #2s in the league.

I agree on everything but "blowing it on Odrick". If Odrick plays like a first round pick should, making a big impact, it will makes us way better...

I guessed right after the draft that Jerry and Incognito would be the starting guards. Not that its set in stone yet, obviously, but it seems to...

I agree...and TS must have this fixed by this year. No more OJT, Tony. Hening was a head coach, Nolan was a HC....there is too much experience...

Uh, no. Hes not.

Exactly. I think this seals the deal on Grove...who might actually get traded to some team. I think they think Berger is as good as Grove and...

only stat that matters...did you win?

I think that is if Will Allen doesn't work out at Free Safety. If hes not playing FS and hes a better CB than Smith (I think he is) it makes sense...

Why don't you expect to win the division? Thats crazy talk. I expect to win the division, get a bye week and a home playoff game. There is no...

If we dont' win a playoff game this year, heads are going to roll. We spent alot of money to improve this team...we are expected to be much...

Didn't Dallas beat GB this year? I don't remember, seems like it.

I don't think Ross is going to be as patient as some here might think. If we only win 7-8 games this year, SR might clean house. And I think I...

The reason a team might trade for him is because if hes released he'd be a FA and could go anywhere. The problem is his salary. If he was making...

What is their most significant addition? Santonio Holmes and Antonio Cromartie. SD didn't let Cromartie go because he was getting better. Just...

I think we are better than the Jets. I think we have a much better offense with edges at QB, Oline, and RBs. You guys only have a better TE....

Fins 31 Bills 10 Anything less and I won't be happy!

Also, what the Jets did last year with a rookie QB didn't help our "Trio". Not too long ago, they were also 3-13 and 4-12. They figured out how to...

Hartline and Bess are fine. I think you are mixing up the problems here. We didn't have a great #1 WR who needed a #2 guy and slot WR to help...

I would take Jake Long off the list and just consider him to be bona fide perennial All Pro candidate. There may be a few better LTs, but not...

I would be more than surprised. I would be beyond shocked. PW sucks. No other way to say it. If he improves to where he is #3 even, I'll be...

I agree with this. Our TEs are not good.

Everything you say here is true. But if he plays lights out in preseason, and a few injuries occur, his stock will go up. Its how the NFL is and...

Ok. Who backs up Volek?

No. I am sure they brought him back because they think he sucks now. :up:

Ok...let me get this straight. You think I make the decision? Or... Let me get THIS straight...you think any way in hell, regardless of how...

This coaching staff knows that CP can win 11 games. We can all speculate that TT is better (younger, more upside, etc) than CP. But we aren't...

Rev Rick, I appreciate what you are saying, but the bottom line is its a numbers game. We don't get to determine who they'll keep. Would I rather...

The contest begins this year. This is the first year we will have an oline on par with them and our WRs have been amongst the worst in the league....

I don't think the Colts or Pats would go for a stop gap measure. They will go with what they've got, ala Cassell in 08. The Chargers, I am not...

He happened to be on a horrible team that year. And though his team was horrible, the offense was not. He was not. He played well, all things...

Much better example. Thanks!

If Schaub goes down, who do they have? I think they signed Carr and Grossman? Thigpen has played better (and recently) in this league than either...

Misi is an outstanding football player. Hes a hardworker and he will come to play. The idea that he has to be better than JT overnight is...

The key, obviously, for a team like ours, is to stay out of 3rd and 5 or more. Plus I think Marshall gives us more of a chance to covert some of...

Thats the bottom line, but the Saints are a big play offense. We aren't going to be that. We are going to win the SB by doing what WE do well, no...

Why not? Zach Thomas, a fifth rounder started his rookie year, first game. How did that work out? This guy can play. Put him in. He won't get...

I like the RJ pick. I think hes going to be a good player for us. I think we have picked up three starters, and three contributors on defense in...

There was alot wrong with the report on the Dolphins. I don't think this guy did too much homework. The thing that jumps out at you is his Koa...

I didn't think I had to stipulate that I was referring to any legal means. Yes, lets not use AK 47s to shoot other teams players to win games....