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Nice job OP! I thought I would do a little research of my own to see if a QBs rushing attempts correlated with a team's winning % so I took the...
You don't reread your posts?
Along with those 33 rushing TDs his first 4 years (40 now).
Wait, if wins and losses are not an actual QB stat because your reasoning is a QB doesn't win or lose by himself then how can QB rating be...
Well this response was all over the place. First, "yes" I think he would have been drafted and "yes" I think it mattered a little bit. For the...
Not sure if you are aware that Johnson had shoulder surgery on his throwing arm in the off-season before his senior year. It affected his release...
You are way off on this. I would say even gone over the edge. The Patriots line has been an absolute disaster this year. I recall one game...
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Oh my...Tannehill and leader should not be in the same sentence unless the word "NOT" is between them.
For it to play exactly the way you've predicted...50/50
No I'm not. I've answered you a couple of times now which is, I could care less, do your own research or pay me, doesn't show Tannehill is any...
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Uh huh...you know I answered you about a week ago. Do your own research or pay me. Your not the boss of me, it's not my job to do your research...
Uh huh...cool story, bro.
Let's see the past two weeks Miami's OL has played well, running game was excellent against the Ravens and set up the passing game against the...
Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha....
Wait...for QBs throwing 200+ passes Tannehill is exactly in the middle of dropped passes...16 above and 16 below. How can this be?...
Miami has also NOT invested wisely in the QB position, AT ALL! Overdrafted a QB that led the preseason top 10 team to out the top 25 with a 7-6...
Funny...QB needs nothing and two average G away from being a good offense. What was the name of the G that missed a wide open Landry for a TD on...
Lol...extremist. Tannehill-lover (which all of sudden now seems to upset you) seemed a natural response to posts in which I and others were being...
It obviously doesn't as we are below average at the QB position and OL. It definitely assured our defense would be depleted. Sent from my A0001...
Miami has put twice as many resources trying to build the offense the last five years. Of course the defense is getting old, lacks depth and star...
Too funny. Mention one of the many stats Tannehill has posted in his 4 years showing he is below average and the defense is it is the fault of...
Perhaps the difference in our views is your saying it is a plug-and-play position and I am not. Comparing Miller to the other RBs Miami has on...
I am not going to say Alex Smith is up there with the Brady's and Roger's but over the past 5 years Smith is: 46 wins / 21 losses / 1 tie 1294 of...
I'm sure you are aware how inept our offense has been. Lamar is a known commodity and producing 5.1 ypc (tied for 5th) despite not playing behind...
Sounds about right. He was able to climb up from 28th last week.
He's got this guy named Brady playing at QB.
A no-brainer to resign Miller as long as he stays healthy and the price is right.
Lol...Tannehill lovers are doing plenty of raging over the penalties, run game and defense. This is a Tannehill thread. If you want me to...
In this case "NO" they are not both correct. That overthrow was 100% on Tannehill. Had nothing to do with Landry being gimpy as you say. He was...
Lol...with all due respect, I am not surprised you see it that way. So Tannehill's postgame response to missing that throw, "Jarvis did a good...
Seriously, do you think the two throws Tannehill missed on the final drive, when the game was on the line, had anything to do with any coach or...
C'mon...it's not like when the game was on the line he missed a wide open player for an easy TD...uh wait, never mind.
Can't rule out CB given Grimes will be 33 next year and nagging injuries are becoming more prevalent. LB, I could see Smith, Jack or Ragland. At...
Not trying to hijack your guys discussion. Just responding to my view why the Giants have a better team. First, they have been competitive in...
C'mon, just getting to the point of absurdity. I mean crap, why not just include Rogers, Manning, Brady, Dalton, Wilson, etc...? Roethlesberger...
I agree with that. I do understand it is a team game. I do understand Miami's OL is not a strength. I do understand the defense has been depleted...
Maybe there needs to be a "Grimes fall thread" like the Hartline one a couple of years back. :lol:
I'm not. Let's not act like 3-10 is the case every year with Rivers. Miami could easily be that under Tannehill this year. Last night was on the...
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Rivers is an extreme example. I take it as a whole. Rivers is 91-66 as a starter including the 3-10 record this year. Excuse me, the Chargers are...
Grimes was not covering Odell on the blown coverage it was Taylor which accounts for over half his yardage on that one play. Grimes was hurt...
If you have seen the games the Giants have blown in the 4th quarter I think you might disagree...4 losses in the final 75 seconds (most ever in...
We played one last night and lost!
The problem is elite QBs have a history of winning those games a significant percentage of the time. Tannehill doesn't. Regardless of how well...
So wouldn't that mean the ball was actually underthrown by 10 yards rather than overthrown by a yard?
I did state...was this a team loss? Absolutely
Some fans root for teams where it's Super Bowl or bust. Miami fans root for please bust so we get better draft position.
Ryan Tannehill's own words following last night's loss, "When it came down to it in the 4th quarter we didn't get it done and that's when the good...
Yeah, totally agree. Grimes has been terrific given his age, size, injuries and what he has been asked to do. Worthy of being one of the 50...
So you think Williams has "go-go gadget arms"? And you think Tannehill threw before seeing that Landry stopped and then broke behind the defense?...
I would agree before seeing how the Marshall experience played out. Miami chose to just let it be and it progressively got worse. Had they...
I have no problem with WRs being divas as long as it doesn't negatively affect the team. I love Landry's game. I think his inability to manage...
Just goes to show how pedestrian Tannehill's play has been for people to be claiming Tannehill had a great game. For him, I agree it was a great...
I recall about that many interceptions being dropped. I also recall Williams behind the defense for a TD that was missed and Landry at the end of...
Or at least let Tannehill be able to audible.
The positive is Miami is currently slotted at #8. If they won would have dropped to #15.
Giants at 5-7 have lost 5 games in the final two minutes. Been a while since Miami had a comeback win in the final two minutes of the game,...
Just listened to a little preview from Gruden and he was very complimentary about coach Campbell hiring two, new coordinators and they are getting...
Is there nothing this man can't catch? http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-videos/0ap3000000601707/Jarvis-Landry-Art-of-the-One-Handed-Catch
Perhaps the numbers are wrong...has him 78 for 99 this year and 84 for 111 last year...pretty darn reliable WR, great hands catcher. Look what...
It appears Tannehill himself doesn't see progression this year: Tannehill was asked recently in what ways he has progressed, and the quarterback...
Percentage wise it is slightly higher this year (78.78%) to last (75.68)...I think one of Landry's biggest assets, fights for every yard he can...
Taken in context it didn't seem to be disrespectful to the defense imo, but perhaps would best be left unsaid in the media. Here is the quote:...
Not according to those in the know... http://articles.philly.com/2015-11-13/sports/68223744_1_bill-lazor-chip-kelly-dolphins-offense "I think...
Your statement was "Hope everyone is prepared for when the phins dump RT17 and he gets snagged by a divisional team with a competent OL and he...
I would love for a divisional team to pick up and play Tannehill. Pretty sure a divisional opponent has never picked up a released Dolphin QB and...
Giants are 32nd in Passing Yards Allowed Per Game and 31st in Sacks...the gameplan should be to attack through the air resulting in Landry getting...
Back at you since it only appears that list is important to you...create that list yourself and also include once those conditions were removed...
Too funny...Didn't know I owed you a list. It appears once again you think you're my boss, can randomly give me an assignment and I am supposed to...
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Just so I am up to date with the "why Tannehill is a great QB and Miami should keep him" formula... Tannehill played WR in college + Tannehill...
Still disagree...if Miami is forced to spend all their resources to make a below-average QB look average it is a bad long-term solution. Miami has...
I disagree with this statement. Of course, as a fan I think I can out-salary cap the FO, but those opinions are reserved for the off-season....
Really, he can run the offense better than anyone since Marino and is not limiting our offense? Miami is 31st in 3rd down conversions at 28%. Not...
My goodness, what on earth are you talking about? Rhetorical, no need to answer. Do you have any idea how successful the QBs you listed were in...
Other than winning games and in particular doing so in pressure situations when the game is on the line in the 4th quarter/OT I think those things...
Makes no difference to me whether he is a Tannehill guy or not. I was commenting on that post. For example, he states: Yet: 5 of the top 7 QBs...
You have done a good job on framing your post to make Tannehill look like he is much better than he is and Miami is without options. But there are...
Of course, a good passing game stretches the defense and allows for more success in the run game. Miami is 4th in the NFL in Yards Per Rush so it...
The other area Tannehill has significantly regressed this year has been in the red zone... 2014: 19-Goal: 56-89 (62.9%), 364 yards (4.09 YPA), 24...
You have literally described Chad Henne's experience as a Dolphin with Sparano and Henning talking about "chunk yards" but don't make a mistake...
I disagree...he can catch. Would have added most value to this team had Miami made him a WR. Perhaps it's not too late?
Would be nice to see some young players get experience and impress the next couple of weeks leading them to contribute more significantly next...
Nothing wrong with Tannehill, he just is who he is. Was never a top QB in college. Over-drafted b/c the "so-called" experts claimed he had...
The ole QB sneak
Good breakdown. The 1st down throw would have been to Parker. He didn't have separation, but he had inside position and with his big body and...
You think Miami will score on its first drive? That would be the most unlikely of all if it were a square. Now if it was the offense goes 3 and...
How is that not an easy read? The CB is directly in line-of-sight with the RB swinging out. If he is there, it's a zone and Tannehill should be...
The only thing I see at an elite level is he can take a licking and keep on ticking. Unfortunately, that hasn't translated to scoring many points...
No one is saying experience doesn't matter. Do you realize the example you are using in Fitzpatrick is not a good one? Despite that you...
Interesting...not sure which source is right for SOS: http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000572264/article/2016-nfl-draft-order-and-needs-nos-1120
Three teams ahead of Miami in the draft I believe would take Lynch if he is available...Cleveland, Dallas, SF...Cleveland is currently slotted...
Had Miami lost yesterday they would currently be in position to draft #5. Having won they are currently in position to draft #12.
Of course one can...you only say that b/c your fellow is toward the very bottom of the list...QBR includes the very things listed, GWD, 4th Qtr...
One way to measure whether a QB is capable of winning games for them is to look at how many Game Winning Drives (go ahead drive in the 4th quarter...
Getting rid of Marshall was a smart move. He was causing problems during the games and during practice. Not sure if you've been around someone...
Totally disagree on two counts...1) It was Ireland that had control of personnel decisions when Marshall was traded and 2) Marshall had an...
I thought it was an excellent pass. He stood in the pocket and took a big hit to throw it too. My criticism is why not take more shots in the...
There is another option and that is to treat it by making a change, a healthy change...eating healthy, exercising, etc...and cutting out what made...
Exactly...Wow is totally appropriate. You don't think our offense is sick? 10 out of 12 games this year Miami's offense has scored 20 points or...
If you had cancer would you say, "I think I'll keep it unless you give me a really good deal on treating it?" If a starting QB is not the answer...
Thank you...don't forget to bet on the Giants next week.
A little deception...on 3 of those games Miami's offense scored 7, 10 and 20 points (7 of which were scored on a 12 yard drive on a blocked punt)....
They put up 33 last week and defense did score 8 and set up the other TD with TO. I thought they played well today.
If he could only have input in the game-plan and audible it would be different. Not sure why after Parker made a huge play on the TD Miami...
Darr...WTF? Could have made it sit and run out 5 more seconds
Was he seriously considering throwing that football? WTF
Nice to see Campbell learning how to employ clock-management :up:
Will be interesting to see how playing time shakes out with Parker when Matthews gets back.
Good job Tannehill!
Tucker is NO ****er! I like that dude :)
Marshall's problems relate to having a mood disorder, not talent. Mood disorders can have a big affect on the energy of those around them.
OV making a strong case to be re-signed.
I'm getting the sense that Lazor wasn't really the problem when it came to deciding to throw well before the 1st down marker on 3rd downs.
When I watch the Ravens offense under Schaub it's like I'm watching Miami's offense.
I like Mariota, a lot...both QBs are playing well today. Fun game to watch.
Having another good game...no Beast, no Graham, no problem...
Is it worth 2 or 1 on a kick? I thought 2 was only if the offense was going for a 2 point conversion.
Are you kidding....defense!!!!!!!!
Pppppaaaaaarrrrrrrrkkkkkkkeeeeeerrrrrrrr!!!!!!!
Phillips is turning into a playmaker. Just can't teach his size.
Jjjjoooooonnnnneeeesssssss!!!!!!!
Wow...OV has a habit of going low. Lucky no penalty on that.
****ing Lazor...they should fire him!
Since I don't think Tannehill is the answer for Miami at QB I would trade him for a 7th rounder.
Unfortunately, this draft is rather week at the QB position. Miami might do best trying to pick a young QB off another roster who has had a year...
Spending some draft picks on the defense would be a good start. Miami has spent 2/3 of draft picks in the round 1-4 on offense the last 5 years,...
Took about one minute for me to the look that up. So what you are saying is the interceptions are a residual affect from previous jail break...
So you thought these were a result of the OL? :07 Second mark... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b7RtMiMa1w4 And 1:05 mark......
Just checking out the latest ranking on NFL.com http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000593225/article/qb-index-who-has-risen-fallen-since-week-1...
Like debating a hot dog vs. prime rib.
Interesting...so if all that truly matters and you care about from the QB position is the ability to win it all why use Wilson's 1st half as a...
Lol...when all else fails blame the defense. Have you noticed yet that the only posts that don't get involved in the back-and-forth are ones...
As Miami is 7-8 in games Tannehill started in December. Miami averages 17.87 PPG under Tannehill in December. The offense has scored 16 points or...
Ironically, I think the Jax game best exemplifies why I think Tannehill will never be the answer at QB for Miami: Even when Tannehill has what is...
Even when factoring those in hard not come out of it realizing Wilson is a stud. He certainly hasn't had a decent group of WRs to throw to. His...
The only way the offense becomes balanced is if Miami stops falling behind by 10+ points in the game early which they have done 5 straight games....
Steelers D were only giving up 19.1 PPG heading into the game. If a team is only giving up 1 more point on defense than our offense averages then...
No Beast in the backfield Sunday and all he did was throw for 345 yards and 5 TD passes on 30 attempts in leading Seattle to 19, 4th quarter...
And how do you know this? First, the coaches you are referring to coached in a league without the advantages given to the passing game in place...
Why wouldn't you want Miami to have a team with an elite QB? That makes no sense to me. An elite QB can make up for weaknesses and when a team...
SB Winners = Offensively, since the merger of the league's in 1970, the average YPA is 7.61 and average rank is 6.80 in that category for that...
Ouch...you got real personal. Obviously, I am dealing with hurt girlfriend syndrome. I'm sorry if you feel I offended your man.
Yep, I thought the best plan in 2012 was to sign Flynn, draft Keuchly (also thought Floyd would have been decent at #8) and Wilson...sure would...
The quote I remember being attributed to Walsh was "Joe Montana was a product of the system. Dan Marino was the system."
Please go on and on...So you are saying Miami has done a good job of investing in the defense in the past 5 years? They brought in Dansby in 2010...
Super Bowl winners = Seattle 2013 (32 in sacks allowed) and Pittsburgh 2008 (29 in sacks allowed), LA Raiders 1983 (24th), Oak Raiders 1980 (24th)...
Miami has spent 14 of the 21 draft picks in rounds 1-4 on offense over the past 5 years including 4 - 1st round (two went to the OL), 3 - 2nd...
An excellent plan.
Dan Marino scored a 15 on the wonderlic (think Forrest Gump). Yet, Coach Shula once said that Dan's best asset is that it doesn't take long for it...
http://miamiherald.typepad.com/sports-buzz/2015/11/exploring-exasperating-dolphins-issues-including-tannehills-lack-of-freedom-on-audibles-um-coach...
I would agree if it weren't for Belichick being 51-62 when Tom Brady doesn't start and 170-48 when he does...the Patriots were 5-13 under...
For sure, Tannehill can take a HIT better than Geno.
I vote Shula although arguments can be made for others. He was capable of modifying his system to the talent on the team. When Miami had Csonka he...
I like your philosophy. However, I think Suh applies to your first line as he is one of the few above the other men on the team. I'm glad we have...
I couldn't agree more...Manziel has all the intangibles absent in Tannehill. To me, those intangibles are internal qualities (clutch, winner,...
Good point...the only thing keeping the Browns in the basement is their 1st round QB is an alcoholic.
What proven and qualified HC is going to want to take this job without the power to flip the roster? Assuming that Campbell is also let go, which...
On his 2nd HC, 2nd OC and fans are thinking making more changes is the solution to Tannehill playing better, crazy. Miami has spent 14 of the 21...
That is a question for the offseason. The 1st step is for the FO to get their head out and admit Miami needs an upgrade at the QB position. Then...
I might consider Tannehill would be a decent QB if he had a good OL if he didn't have one of the best OL in all of college football his senior...
And this is worse than Tannehill how?
I think the ideal team to trade with is Dallas. Tannehill is a Cowboy fan. Already has a TD pass to a Cowboy from last week when he got good OL...
What can the FO say, "We just gave a bottom 10 QB, top 10 $$$...we're IDIOTS!"? There is a book titled, "Mistakes were made, but not by me" which...
Tannehill's QB rating today is higher than Big Ben's so Tannehill clearly played better than Ben has.
Not only is Tannehill BAD, he is F'ing BORING. This marks the 9th time in 11 games Miami has scored 20 points or less. Miami's highlight plays...
I want to commend you on this post. This is, by far, the most reasonable and well thought out post I have read of yours. Of course, that doesn't...
Fair enough...I was responding to a post who wasn't referring to where Tannehill ranked but based on his overall numbers, so I responded using...
That's cherry picking stats and that those are the best someone can come up with is pretty sad. Here's a few more to give a more complete...
QBR absolutely relates to what I see on the field of play with Tannehill and why he is 30th out of 31 qualifying QBs this year. Some fans appear...
Sorry, MY BAD!!! I'm doing about 10 things at once right now. I started a response and left and came back without refocusing. :lol:
When it shows their is a relationship it has validity. Seriously, do you think Tannehill's play against Dallas was closer to the QB rating of...
And anything that shows he does (even when it has validity) in the slightest is despised.
The best prediction, as you refer to it, is not Whether Tannehill plays above average (> 50 QBR), but whether he plays better than the opposing...
I thought Miami's DL made the Cowboys OL look ordinary at best.
It happens (I actually didn't think Taylor's was a hold). Part of the game. A lot of QBs overcome that. Look at the play Romo was almost sacked...
:lol:
The offense was only +7 points (scored 14 - 7 on pick)...how many games is a team going to win when the offense is +7 points? We needed TDs at...
Point well taken. Lol...when I was typing, I actually had the thought "is correlation the term I am looking for?" and ended up going with it. Been...
Of course they have to wait for after the game as film watching to assign responsibility is part of it. What do you think is more accurate based...
And last season was the only season in which Tannehill had QBR higher than 50 for the season, ending with 58.0. A QB can have poor stats as...
The point being those claiming a QB Win/Loss record does not exist b/c the QB does not win the game without the play from the other players will...
There has been an ongoing debate whether a QB has a Win / Loss record. It is definitely a statistic that is kept:...
So you call throwing an interception when Denver took the lead 32-28 that then led to Denver putting the game away "did everything possible" :lol:...
The STAT speaks for itself. Are you also saying that completions, attempts, yards, TD passes, int, YPA, YPC, fumbles, sacks, etc... are not stats?
Why don't you admit it...the real problem is your guy had a win/loss record of 13-7 in college and now has a win/loss record of 27-31 in the NFL....
They said EXACTLY what I thought they did. They identified a QBs won/loss record as a starter or gave the QBs winning percentage which is...
You got me Fin D...I mean you are the smartest person I know. And since you have said it isn't a stat, despite the 10 or so links from different...
Guys, guys, guys we are ignoring the most important thing...although we only completed "one" 3rd conversion today Tannehill was able to improve...
Exactly. It's not like our offense only got 9 first downs and went 1 for 10 on third downs not allowing the defense to rest up in-between drives....
Yeah, QBs don't really have that big of an effect on the rest of the team and whether that team wins or not. We saw a perfect example of this...
You CANNOT blame Tannehill for the pick 6. It is NOT his fault. First, God made it monsoon and that created turnover type conditions so God is in...
At this point, I am open to all options.
Alright, see you next week.
You crack me up :lol: Only you would get "they may start to consider it" out of that. Why on earth would I want to do research toward which QBs...
That whole sentence was euphemism for calling plays and playing are TOO MUCH for Tannehill. What is he supposed to say, "I have a dumb**** at QB...
His numbers took a significant jump last year when options removed from him. Sure doesn't seem like Tannehill has earned the confidence of his...
What is being ignored is that Tannehill had the "shackles" off in the past and when Tannehill was given more freedom his passing was negatively...
I agree with him only leaving b/c of a better offer elsewhere. I am sure Miami would love to bring him back, but I don't foresee him giving them a...
Over the last 5 years Miami has spent 5 of their 15 draft picks in the first 3 rounds on OL (2 in the 1st, 1 in the 2nd, 2 in the 3rd) and given a...
And you know his personality and immaturity have been the main reason how? Phil McGeoghan, assistant WR coach, says Matthews hasn't missed a...
Dealing with semantics and of course hurts the argument that Tannehill is a victim of the play-calling by Lazor who doesn't run the ball enough...
Absolutely make re-signing Matthews as top option. Miller secondary, but both would be good to bring back.
When a team has a QB that is somewhere around 20-25 in the league four years in, there is NO other position that needs more improvement than QB....
The very article you linked addressed this, not that he isn't smart enough but that it affected his passing. “He had a lot of options he could...
Lol...both articles are recent and I quoted both to give a more complete picture. Your article didn't include that Tannehill has as much in...
The short pass is just one option in the routes being run. Lazor has acknowledged that most plays have a deep route built into them and it is up...
http://www.thephinsider.com/2015/10/...-audible-maybe The only ones they mention that aren't are Drew Brees and Aaron Rogers. Two experienced...
It appears Tannehill has more input and in game decision making than his fans claim. Lazor gets criticized for the pass/run ratio but it appears...
QBs get a 1 point added for Tier 1, 2 for Tier 2, 3 for Tier 3, 4 for Tier 4. Tannehill finished 17th with a 2.86 average. The basic math: 36...
http://sportshoop.la/threads/starting-qb-tier-ranking-espn-insider.186659/ Look for .pdf attached
Pathetic
So in other words, you just pull stuff out of your butt, slant it in your favor, try to pass it off as fact and when someone calls you on it then...
Only 5 out of the 36 put Tannehill in Tier 2 which is 13.8% Just a suggestion...start being honest if you want to be taken even the slightest bit...
Do you actually believe the stuff you write? Seriously, are you thinking the majority of great QBs play on bad teams and bad QBs play on great...
lol...If I ignore it then it doesn't exist?
So now tipped not barely tipped? The announcer went from tipped to deflected to getting a hand on it. A lot of not-bad throws don't get...
Really on the barely tipped and not bouncing off his hands? Different interpretation of what a ball bouncing off someone's hand looks like I...
Even when Miami wins Tannehill moves down the ranks......
I'll take a shot at answering your questions: - Is W/L record a QB stat? YES, based on a quick Google search it is often used by a slew of...
I agree Tannehill is athletic, not freakish, but I don't see Tannehill use his athleticism to his advantage. He doesn't get out of the pocket and...
Agreed with the Boomer comment. I am sure he can speak for himself and is still just an opinion. It was actually Fin D that brought him into the...
It is called humor. I don't expect you to understand.
Finally you are starting to see the big picture...congratulations! Looks like at best Tannehill ends up .5 to 1ct
You are such a Tannehill LOVER! :lol: That is as high of a ranking as I've seen of Tannehill this year. Besides some Dolphin forums of course. At...
High praise. Not much of an impact yet imo. Definitely potential in Parker, Phillips and Ajayi. Also a testament to how poorly Miami has drafted...
The other player I am intrigued about is Lippett. If he develops enough cover skills to stay on the field his height and WR experience could turn...
I could have just started another Tannehill thread.
A couple of days ago James Walker, who covers the Dolphins for ESPN, gave the Dolphins draft for this year a D+ based on production so far....
You don't spend a lot of time watching all other QBs, yet you feel competent to declare Tannehill a top 5-10 QB when oline performs...interesting,...
I thought Marino would have multiple Super Bowl wins by the time he retired. I thought Harrington, Quinn, Henne and Flynn all had a chance to be...
I thought Rishard Matthews played another terrific game. I think he is clearly the offensive MVP of this team, hands down. Caught 5 of the 6...
True, between that and the Cowboys game the Giants could easily be running away with that division. On the flip side Belichick once again showed...
There are some things I like about coach Campbell, but I vote no based on his game-management. At this point one of the worst I've seen at...
With the game on the line I thought Reshad Jones ran a perfect crossing route in the end zone and Sanchez perfectly hit him in stride...a...
I heard Shula once say about Marino "it doesn't take long for it go from his brain to his feet and to his arm." I think with Tannehill there is a...
As a fan I would be adamantly opposed to turning Suh and/or Tannehill's base salary into signing bonus...It would be one thing if it was done for...
You're spot on. So far this will be Miami's 9th game and only "2" will have been played at home = 22.22% of the games. I thought coming into the...
Hmm...Miami Dolphin scouts only attending Memphis vs. Houston out of these games. Probably in order to check out Paxton Lynch....
I think that is fair criticism. Personally, I think he is playing at an elite level this year, but I wouldn't put him in the elite category...
What I don't like about this strategy: it hasn't been very successful for winning a Super Bowl. Since the merger of the leagues only 5 times out...
They have some impressive wins this year...@ Raiders, @ Ravens, @ Steelers, @ Bills (Miami has lost 2 games to) and beat the Seahwaks. Some tough...
And are you implying that is also the case the past 4 years Dalton has led them to the playoffs? The Bengals made the playoffs 10 out of their...
Lol...you mean I did all that work for nothing?
I think they have had enough playing time to at least take a peak. Ryan Tannehill College...Freshman: Backup; Sophmore: Backup; Junior: Backup /...
Only obvious to someone with a like mind as his. Alright, I'm wrong about what... That he isn't part of the group claiming that Wins and Losses...
Lol...obviously you share the same mind if you get to speak for him.
How can someone not when looking at their skill sets. And then taking into account their age. When Tannehill was Winston and Mariotta's age he...
Correct me if I'm wrong but aren't you part of the group arguing that Wins and Losses are not on the QB, is not an actual stat, and therefor...
Sounds like you blindly support the QB because he is wearing a Dolphin uniform and believe in him. All the OL also wear the Dolphin uniform. You...
You know OL are wearing Dolphin uniforms as well. How about that same approach for them? Sent from my A0001 using Tapatalk
I agree, Tannehill does need to get better. I am not a Tannehill hater. What I'm a hater of is Tannehill's play up to this point. I am totally...
Tannehill had a GREAT OL in college and didn't perform at that lower level, but apparently he would at this level with a good OL...interesting It...
Of course you would. No one has a bigger crush on Tannehill than you. The "pros" only had him as the "17th" ranked QB in that poll and that poll...
Does a good job of summing up Tannehill in a nutshell. Rosenthal could replace the word "season" with the word "career." "Tannehill's game...
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Not resigning Matthews would be a big mistake. As if the passing game wasn't bad enough. Matthews is more than just a solid WR2. He has been a...
Comprehension is fine just having a lot of trouble with your logic. When I read a "ton" I think it is a rather large amount, outside of the norm...
I thought that pass to Parker was excellent.
I guess it depends on what one defines as deep. He had a beautiful pass that traveled about 35 yards beyond the line-of-scrimmage to Stills in the...
Lol...apparently not the same games you do. Forgive me if I don't trust the top of your head. It appears you consider "deep" for Tannehill to...
I definitely am not going to argue he has played well this year. I would not be surprised if injuries are a factor. Dude has taken some "huge"...
Barring injury you're probably right. But isn't that another good reason to bring in some competition...what if Tannehill goes down with an injury...
Dropped deep balls? Do you have examples? Not saying it hasn't happened, I just don't recall that. I know Wallace was terrible at adjusting to...
I like Lynch out of Memphis. Perhaps Hackenberg if he is still around in the 2nd or Kessler in the middle-late rounds. I thought Hundley would...
Definitely not a perfect system, there is none. Being last in QBR doesn't necessarily mean worst. It reflects where a QB ranks in terms of his...
I had posted the following in a previous thread. I reccommend following the hyperlinks to become more familiar with it if interested: It is...
IMO QBR is a much better QB rating system than the flawed QB rater traditionally used. QBR takes into account "context" which the QB rating...
Who do you think is the GM that wouldn't?
I might buy into the OL argument and running game argument that Tannehill would become a franchise type QB if not for this: In college, as a "5th...
Source for 1,009? Play-by-play on ESPN + my brain :lol: 7th attempt in Carolina game out of 42 attempts + 180 attempts the rest of the year +...
I think Miami is in quite a dilemma and it will be interesting to see how this offseason plays out. Over the past 5 years Miami has drafted...
I was thinking that same thing when I watched Stidhom (a true freshman at Baylor) hit Coleman in stride for an 81 yard TD pass this past Thursday....
The announcer literally criticized Tannehill's decision making on the play, showed the replay and did a freeze frame to illustrate it. Both WRs...
Not sure which is worse the past 16 games between the offense of defense. That the defense has become pathetic is understandable as Miami has...
Matthews hit or miss? He was thrown to 4 times today and caught all 4 for 54 yards. On one 3rd down play today the announcer was critical of...
It's all in the history. Look it up if you want specifics. Best words I could use to describe that type of behavior. I anyone came on being...
The GM, HC and OC that rested their careers on Tannehill are all out of job.
I can only speak for my own experience. After the Titans game I was on here saying Tannehill had a great game, one of the best of his career and...
Be honest, tell me you didn't think when you posed the question how many super bowl winners had a poor OL that you thought the "average" would at...
Tannehill against AFC East this year: Ryan Tannehill vs Jets: 19-44, 198 yards, 2 TD, 2 int = 53.0 QB rating Rest of league vs. Jets: 135-231,...
Miami has already built their team around Ryan Tannehill and we do have a running game. Miami has surrounded Tannehill with play-makers that are...
Good question. The answer is quite a few... in the last 14 Super Bowls only 5 teams have been in the top 10 for fewest sacks allowed. Here is...
Gotta love the Ad Hominem Ryan Tannehill fan club. The one thing that NEVER gets addressed is why Ryan Tannehill "is" the answer. Of course, we...
First of all, I was including Dalton in a group of QBs who led their team to victories in the 4th quarter just this past weekend as a...
How does this in any way show that Tannehill is the answer? A common tactic of lets divert the attention away from the QB trying to defend, but I...
Even with how badly Luck has played this year he has shown he is clutch with the furious 4th quarter comeback against the Titans and last night...
Fair enough. Steelers are a good team with a great defense (5th in ppg @ 18.4) But you didn't complete the story...on the next series he leads...
LOL...I love this fantasy world you live in where the game is supposed to be over after the Dolphins take the lead. You actually expect the...
Completely in agreement. Tebow has a 9-7 career record as a starter, including two playoff games (1-1). Out of those 9 wins Tebow led his team...
Video watching definitely a part of it. I am sure they have access to angles we don't get to see live to get a better view of the OL, WRs,...
It is definitely complex and there is no perfect rating system. Stats are only reliable incorporating the context in which they were accumulated....
The other part of the equation is not only did Denver get pressure, but he WRs were blanketed and if Rodgers forces the ball chances are several...
Rodgers did not play that badly given the context. Besides the OL playing poorly the WRs were blanketed as one can see in this video:...
Miami was totally set up to steal him in the 5th round with 4 draft picks that round.
Wrong place, wrong time? He was the 56th ranked QB as a 5th year senior in college. His second half rating would have placed him 94th out of 115...
The Patriots OL is ranked 27th winning the battle at the line of scrimmage. They only dressed 6 players Monday night. The reason they look better...
Actually you don't really say much anything of significance. He has done it by LEADERSHIP, masterfully managing the game, making great...
I can't speak for others, but I know my standards aren't based on a QB building numbers based on dinking and dunking the ball. After all, Foles...
You support a player by pointing out all the good things the player does. Pointing out poor plays by other QBs and then mocking is just be...
You don't think that is true of most fans for other teams as well? Fans are attached to their team winning so their standards are going to be...
Can you actually quote some posts where a member says that when other QBs throw bad passes, interceptions, get sacked or play poorly it isn't ever...
So rather than consistently picking out QBs having a bad game and then be mocking, can you build a case based on Tannehill's actual body of work...
I would be okay if he just used his feet to get outside of the pocket putting pressure on the defense. Right now the defense can crowd the line of...
How do you know when a QB isn't the answer? His supporters say things like, "you can't really use wins and losses as a measure for QBs" and "it's...
Making up stats off the top of your head to favor whatever point you are trying to make and not using actual stats is "weak." If you want to be...
That is b/c Tannehill had a very good OL in college. In fact, the two tackles blocking for him were taken 2nd overall and 6th overall in their...
This is erroneous. Tannehill was a backup QB that was playing WR. He came to Texas A&M as a QB. Reports were never missed a QB meeting and got the...
I would argue his record as a starting QB is pretty close to his level of play.
Too funny. I came on here posting that Tannehill played great today. I am genuinely excited about that and the Dolphins winning. But apparently...
LOL...you're not the boss of me. You go away if don't like it. The defense and special teams also add wins to Tannehill's total (think Redskins)....
Nice spin. I find it ludicrous for you to question my acumen when you couldn't see the poor job Ireland was doing during the time. And saying, "I...
Do you disagree that in the NFL practically every single starter and most backups would play well when the OL and defense plays as well as Miami's...
Think whatever you want. I enjoy when Miami wins and when any and every player plays well. This includes Tannehill. Speaking of egos and correct...
LOL...what part of Tannehill played great, other than Tannehill played great is so hard for you to comprehend? His record as a starter is now...
Sounds like you need a hug :lol: Your guy played great today might as well enjoy it. Or not, your choice. Not trying to minimalize anything. This...
:lol: Sure appears you don't come from a place of fun. I am big enough and have watched football long enough to make up my own mind and don't...
Nope, not you. Fun is great. Some posters appear only to come from a place of butt sore. Name-calling, belittling I don't consider coming from a...
Right about what?
How old are you?
Lol...why am I not surprised this seems like it turned into a kindergarten thread with, "I told you so. nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah!" My...
Interesting character. Tannehill plays well and you resort to name-calling. Didn't even know that was allowed on this forum.
When I look at the model coaches (Shula, Walsh, Belichick, etc...) they have a system in place rather than playing amateur psychologist and...
Good stuff...NFC East
Last year OL not the worst, definitely not great. Albert injury affected. Running game was pretty good (2nd in the league at 4.7 ypa). Matthews,...
During the times when the transmission is running just fine and the engine has no horsepower and putters out do you blame the transmission and...
I think Lazor has been Tannehill's best friend. He has implemented a system allowing Tannehill to throw short, underneath passes elevating his QB...
Lol...I recall the excuse at the time was the players weren't happy with Sherman and it was his fault. Might as well throw in a shoulder to cover...
Regardless on their success or not at the NFL level Tannehill's OL was dominant at the college level. Tannehill was only sacked 9 times to go...
Scheme + effort. As much as I like Suh he definitely has not given a $1.2 million + effort each game. That it has happened only 4 games into his...
Not sure what this means. Can you clarify? That Tannehill had an excellent OL in college (Jake Matthews - 1st round 6th pick, Luke Joeckel - 1st...
Absolutely no way in hell can a QB throw over 400 TD passes, win 4 Super Bowls, makes it to 6, play in 241 games and be the all-time leader in...
:lol: Only way to know this is to have personal experience. Were you his tight end?
Since Mariota is a Rookie the comparison needs to be their skill sets. Comparing the skill sets between Mariota and Tannehill I don't see a single...
If Laura Tannehill were being honest she would take Mariota over Ryan right now.
Mel Kiper is DEAD-ON! The only question at this point is whether Tannehill being referred to as an average QB is an overstatement...31st in QB...
The only offensive player that can recover fumbles for additional yardage and advance the fumble is the player that fumbled as long as it is on...
You're kidding right, top 10-12? Who is Tannehill better than on the following 18 QBs...Rodgers, Brady, Roethlesberger, Brees, Rivers, Palmer,...
I hear the same thing all the time with announcers regarding Tannehill and the OL. No one claims Miami's OL is the best in the league and...
Why do so many think Tannehill is unique in getting sacked and pressured? This occurs league wide. Offensive line play has significantly...
Sorry, but this is why I disagree that Suh is free of blame......
Wow...the freakin practice squad was owning our QB. Coach-killer. Good luck Dan Campbell.
A big part of my critic of Tannehill is that he seriously lacks leadership skills. IMO a real leader at the QB position would have said, "I need...
Heck of a player with some nasty in him. I thought today he showed a bit of frustration which I think is good because it shows he really wants to...
No, it is definitely because of the way you defend your fellow. It's really sweet and so cute it seems like that would all go together.
No argument from me. I was correcting an error in stats from another poster.
Cognitive reasoning and spellun are two different things :pointlol:
Your welcome and no problem, I've worked with kids before trying to develop their cognitive reasoning skills. Keep trying, some get there eventually.
Just a suggestion, do basic fact checking or will come across looking like a fool...25 QBs completed over 60% of their passes last year and 25 QBs...
Brady and the Patriots beat the Bills putting up 40 points throwing 59 passes equaling 83% of the time.
Only if you are comparing the % and not looking at the big picture. On average, per completion this is how far the pass was completed beyond the...
Thanks...last year Tannehill actually had 51.4% of his yards as Air Yards, not 64%.
Do you have a link for your 64% air yards on Tannehill and others?
Of course it is a team game so everyone can take some responsibility. Miami doesn't have a power running game so they are stuck with trying to...
:lol: Why do I get the sense your bedroom is a Tannehill shrine equipped with Tannehill posters on every wall and ceiling, bobble-head dolls,...
I think Philbin has the work ethic and mind, but he definitely doesn't have the type of personality or charisma to motivate a team to play with...
WR snap counts for last Sunday's game when the offense had 76 snaps: Landry = 59, Jennings = 45, Parker = 41, Stills = 40, Matthews = 39 I don't...
Of course, I see football like all team sports is a team. Do you not see that the QB, more than any other player on the team will effect the...
Not in total disagreement. However, I do think you will find a correlation between ERA and wins/losses. Arrieta and Grienke are at the top of the...
That's fair. I look at all those stats in addition to wins/losses. Pretty sure when it comes to HOF, All-Star game, getting new contracts and Cy...
Nope, defense played a part it in. Good QBs are able to drive their teams down the field and score when the game is on the line. However, there...
No that Tannehill and the offense couldn't put teams away allowing for the other team to come back and win the ball game.
I'm guessing you think pitchers don't have a win-loss record b/c there is another 8 players on the field and blah, blah, blah... What I am...
So exactly how do you measure the value of a QB? From what I get from the posts I've read of yours, the QB seems to be pretty insignificant or...
Huh... http://www.footballdb.com/stats/qb-records.html?type=reg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_NFL_quarterbacks_win%E2%80%93loss_records...
I agree. It is easy to get caught up in the extremes when responding to posts in which Tannehill can do no wrong, it is everyone else's fault, he...
I was feeling a little rambunctious last night in my postings. I would say comparing Tannehill to Henne is a whole lot closer comparison than the...
Hope so. These were two of the worst defenses last year. Maybe they improved so much they kept our offensive Juggernaut in check.
LOL...it's the Henne + Hennehill, I mean Tannehill. Honestly, do you see much difference in their game? Both made a living by dinking and...
I would love to post videos online of long TD passes, but there aren't any. When is the last time you have seen a long TD pass by Tannehill? Take...
Also forgetting Nick Foles who in a very similar offense two years ago posted the second highest single-season QB rating at 119.2 and led his team...
LOL...I would fall in love with the play of a QB that hasn't completed a pass over 50 yards in 883 attempts. But I know it is Ross', Philbin,...
Cute... Here's another match game A. Andrew Luck B. Robert Griffin III C. Ryan Tannehill D. Russel Wilson 1. Led his team to the playoffs 3...
I'll admit it. I am a Dolphin fan. Of course I hold him to a higher standard. Watching Marino's entire career certainly doesn't help his cause....
Suh is a great player, but I think Aaron Donald is the best pass rushing DT in football. Besides the point. Definitely been a disappointment so far.
He had pretty good protection until Albert left. Pretty sure Miami didn't come close to scoring after that which gives evidence he belongs in tier...
This question was asked of 35 league insiders this year...8 personnel directors, 6 GMs, 4 Head Coaches, 5 Offensive Coordinators, 5 Defensive...
Clearly Tier 3 at this point.
Who is "we?" That's not what I was asking for. I've been asking for a QB that knows how to and does win football games leading the Dolphins into...
Terrible 1st half as he took a beating. Pretty good second half. Kind of the reverse of Tannehill.
Final drive was part of it. Throwing the ball 10 yards into the middle of the field was really, really a piss poor decision. Work the sidelines...
It's honorable to defend your fellow. There was also the drive before that and the drive before that...you know, we last scored opening drive of...
I totally AGREE. His play was totally Ridiculous when the game was on the line. Excellent before then.
One of Tannehill's best days as a pro turned out to be stinker with the game on the line. Tannehill's new name = Mr. Trainingcamp
****ing Tannehill, that was an idiotic decision.
Wish we had vintage Marino for this drive.
Good use of timeouts by Philbin
Un****ing believeable
**** it, fake punt!
Our offense was very OFFENSIVE that series.
Already Tannehill, now is your time to shine
There is the Suh-nami
WOW...f'ing Aikens