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Heres a prediction for ya. The fins win 6 games and its not with Ryan at QB. Is that better?

As I recall Cams players in San Diego had nice things to say about him. That makes no difference. Everything you just mentioned was Cam Cameron...

Great, another rookie HC. Whats the difference between him and Cam. Not a damn thing!

LOL what a dreamer.

I think we need to take Ryan. He is a guaranteed winner and will take the Fins to the superbowl in his first year. This guy is a stud, with the...

Wheres the pic of the guy beating a dead horse. Get over it, they wont be taking a QB with the first pick.

I always thought Cam was a good guy, so Im glad he found a new job quick.

Teams dont need superstar QB's to be successful in the NFL. Perfect example are the NY Giants. Manning is a descent QB who has been very up and...

Adam your love of Ryan has completely altered your logical thinking skills and blinded you to the fact Ryan is one QB in a group of many descent...

Parcells is not going to take a QB with the first pick. He still doesnt know what he has in Beck yet, so he is not stupid enough to dump a ton of...

True, but I dont think anyone thought the D would be this bad. In the end I think we will look back and say that Ginn was worth the pick.

I think Beck is a Parcells guy. Beck works hard, good character, will put his head down and take one for the team to go along with his abilities...

Talent was lacking on this team because many of the starters were injured and its never good to start 4rookies. What did everyone expect to...

Glad to see you made to the forum Cam :)

and you say Ryan has a better arm than Beck, based off what? If you are basing this off college then Beck had the better stats and arm. A...

I would also bet that Ryan is with the Falcons next year. There isnt a "Franchise QB" in this draft. Ryan may be the best of a mediocre bunch, but...

Wow, good post. Hard to argue with anything you said.

Beck will be here next year, but where he fits in to the new coaches scheme is still to be determined. I still think they bring in a Vet QB and...

This move guarantees another two years of rebuilding. While I dont agree with everything Cam did I thought he should be given another year to...

The players you just listed would not have been Pro Bowl talent on the Fins. They would have been good players on a BAD team but never produced...

You guys going to argue about Beck for the next 8 months? This is getting old. Draft day will tell us a lot about where BP is going with this...

Yes it needs depth and competition but not at a $30 million price tag. Bring in a cheap Vet to create competition. Use the money for something...

Stop arguing about the freaking size of the QB because it does not matter, PERIOD. The majority of QB's in this league are 6'2 - 6'3. What is the...

Yes Russell has an arm, but so do most of the other QB's in the NFL. :) Beck proved today that he can make the throws. He just needed the time...

Yea lets take Ryan or Brohm since they are certified franchise QB's. Kinda like Russell is with the Raiders. He is having another spectacular...

Minus the crappy fumble which in the end didnt mean much, you can see why Cam likes him. When he settles down and loses the happy feat he can fire...

Beck makes some nice passes when he settles down. You can see him gaining confidence.

Wow nice TD

That was a fumble. WTF

Although it doesnt matter what Beck does because our D cant stop crap.

I think Beck just needs a little confidence.

Good drive by Beck. To bad he had that damn fumble.

Cam is not playing Beck for one simple reason, he is hoping to save his job by winning. If this team was 4-11 then you would see Beck play, but...

Have you been at practice? I would bet a lot of money Beck practices better than Lemon. It was well documented in TC that Beck had the best arm...

I dont have a problem getting one later in the draft, which I assume they will at some point. I dont want to see the 1st pick going to an unproven...

Your basing this off 3 games on the worst team in football. Fins had no business developing a rookie QB this year especially with the lack of...

Theres one thing to bring in a QB for a competition then theres another bringing in a $40 million dollar player (1st Pick). They better be damn...

and what happens if Beck beats him out in TC? Can you say waste of a pick and complete disaster. Do you know what the Fins would have to pay a #1...

Do not make posts personal towards another member using "You", as they can be observed as a personal attack. This is a warning. Thanks. Wow,...

Your kidding right? You havent watched any of his games? Philly game they were in the redzone a couple of times and at the 1 yard line. Steelers...

I find it hard to believe Beck isnt ready to play the Bungles. Beck has shown he can move the ball down the field. They need to work on picking up...

A lot depends on whether or not Cam is still coach next year and how Parcells feels about Beck. The odds are Beck will be given a chance to prove...

Parcells is going to pick up a veteran QB in FA and him and Beck will battle it out in TC. He is not stupid enough to pick up another rookie QB...

Not gonna happen, although I see no reason not to at this point. I actually think Becks struggles this year will help him for next as this team...

Maybe see Beck next week but I doubt it. I would like to see Beck have a good game against the Bungles to build some confidence, but I think Cam...

I think Cam is thinking comeback.

All he had to do was reach 5 inches for the TD.

With no running game its not going to happen.

Why not! but it wont happen. If Beck goes out and throws an INT he will be ran out of Miami.

Bawhahahahaha

I think its a combo platter of bad play calling, receivers that cant get open and bad QB play.

If the Fins arent going to blitz Brady then this game is over.

I thought the same thing. I didnt see anything special in him other than throwing bombs and if he wasent on LSU then would have gone 5th round.

Russell looked horrible today, but I posted it in jest because of all the Beck haters claiming bust after a few games.

Ginn will be fine once things turn around with the rest of the team. Its hard to evaluate anyone on a bad team.

Many of the things Ron Jaworski mentioned I have been preaching for a while. Mainly the Fins have no business trying to develop a rookie QB on...

Padre the Bills game sacks were a complete breakdown of the O line and no scheme to pick up the blitz. Beck takes 2 steps back and is sacked which...

So your basing your expert opinion on 3 football games, which two of them were in bad weather, with one of them probably the worst conditions of...

The low delivery point on Beck has nothing to do with velocity. Beck was 2nd in the combine behind Russell in terms of velocity and as I recall...

The Patriots could be tripping on acid and still kick our ***. Them having a bad game means we get beat by 21 instead of 50.

What makes you think we can upset one of the greatest teams of all time when we needed divine intervention last week to beat a horrible Baltimore...

Thats the way I see it. Everyone wanted Beck to come in and save the day, but in the end it was obvious how bad this team was from top to...

Dont you guys realize what a risk it is to take a QB at #1? especially on a team that almost every position needs help. I have said it before but...

If Parcells joins the Fins then you probably wouldnt see any positive change for a couple of years. I would think Cam would be given another year...

Why would the Fins take Ryan which would give them really 2 rookie QB's on the roster. Dont some of you realize what a stupid pick that is? Ryan...

Damn, when are you going to realize the Fins are not going to take Ryan, so stop riding this guys jock. Oh and Cutler hasent done crap so lets not...

We saw two different halfs to Lemon today. The first half he was horrible, but in the second Cam opened the play book and the Oline gave him some...

Congrats to the Fins for a win. I think that Cleo will start against the Pats and Beck will start in the last game. Cleo had a nice second half...

If they can manage to win 2 of the last 3 that will go along way in terms of Cam keeping his job. If the beat Baltimore then I think Lemon will...

Why would Cleveland trade Anderson when they have no clue what they have in Quinn. I agree with most that you need a strong O-line or it doesnt...

Fullbacks these days are over rated. Most teams run 2 RB's and alternate.

Im sorry it cant be that tough. These are all the same plays Beck ran in college, just with different wording.

Any logical person would say that looks like a good plan, but Cams playbook has two plays in it. The fake end around to Ginn and the 5 yard dump...

Did anyone notice Sunday that as soon as Lemon came in the playbook was wide open? I saw plays that I hadnt seen all season, like real screen...

Even if we can put some points up what makes anyone think we can stop Baltimore from putting up more. Defense is horrible.

Is this news suprising to anyone? Not really. I dont blame Cam for trying to save his own *** right now. The least of his concerns is developing...

Another moronic post that should be locked. Lets analyze the Beck situation once and for all so the 12 year olds on this forum can get a grip....

This is the situation that Cam has created on his own. Everything that nosoapradio listed are great reasons to start Beck, but they are also...

Miami will start Lemon this weekend. For one reason the vets on the team want that and Cam isnt going to cause anymore contention than there...

This thread should be locked. If someone actually thinks Quinn would make a difference on this horrible team right now, they should be shot.

How did you come to that conclusion? Quinn wont be starting in Cleveland for about 4 years, if ever.

I agree with you. You can tell Cam is in desperation mode and trying to find something that works. The problem is there is no answer on offense...

Good post Vendigo. Any rational dolfan can see that we havent really learned anything about Beck. We have seen good things from him like the...

Our respected passing game had 0 TD's today. Nobody is affraid of our offense. So far this team is 0-6 with Lemon at QB and nothing is going to...

Cam is not going to get fired this year even if they dont win a game. The team has to many issues, injuries, rookies etc to blame this thing on...

Why waste your breath when they wont take a QB #1?

Let me guess, Ryan :001_rolleyes:

Did I miss something? Beck wasent in there.

Funny considering Edwards has enough time to take a dump, wipe and then throw a bomb. Its helps when there is no pass rush.

Who knows what Beck would have done today as he was taken out on his second drive. Yes he did fumble it, but nothing worse than what Lemon has...

You actually believe that if there was a different QB on this team they would be in the playoffs? Drafting a QB at #1 is a crap shoot and you...

Cleo "Hands" Lemon

Another pick and here comes Beck LOL

They wont give up on Beck. He needs better players around him and they know that. He will be given the chance next year.

Serious though, put Beck back in. He needs to take his lumps and get over them if he is their QB next year. This game is over and Lemon isnt going...

That was a TD. Reversed

Time for Beck LOL

The problem is Beck is a pocket passer and the Oline cant protect one. Lemon is better passer when he gets out of the pocket, so right now he does...

Crazy how they finally call a bomb with Lemon, but couldnt do one with Beck.

Amazing how the O line learned how to block when Lemon comes in.

Wow, Becks season is done.

Wrong, most rookie QB's struggle their first year or two. There are a lot of positions that can make an impact right away, like a RB, WR, FL, OL....

Miami is not going to take a QB in the 1st round. Beck will get next year to prove himself. The only thing that a 1st round QB guarantees you is...

Im a Beck fan and dont want to see him get benched, but Cam is getting desperate. ESPN even reported that if Beck struggles today that they will...

Trents stats are not much better than Becks and he is on a lot better team. With that said he will probaby be a good NFL QB. Becks problem is he...

Garrett looks good because the team he is on and the players he has. It would be hard not to win. Calling for a bomb to TO every other play is not...

Something that bothers me is the play calling has been a joke, as we already know that. After rewatching the last 2 games on my DVR some of the...

I actually think the fins will win this game. I didnt say that about the Jets game because I thought there was a good chance we would lose. The...

Yea, lets draft a QB with the first pick so we can guarantee another rebuilding year as they learn the system and end up getting beat out by Beck...

Name one QB in this league that would be lighting it up on this Dolphins team? Guess what, there isnt one. Beck had a bad game because he is a...

The term Quarterback U is because of the numbers their QB's put up. I never said because he is from BYU that he is going to be good. I stated...

If you think Ryan and Brohm played in a prostyle offense then what do you call the one Beck came from? It doesnt get any more pro style than a BYU...

Some of you guys really need to put things in perspective. Everyone wanted a win today, but it didnt happen. How many people actually thought we...

Beck is not a dink and dunk QB. If you need a reference go look at his highlights on youtube. The guy can flat out zip the ball anywhere on the...

When looking at Beck, dont look at his final stats. For a rookie QB, especially one on a bad team, you need to look at how he handles himself out...

Im guessing you missed Ryans terrific game yesterday. 2 picks in the last couple of minutes to lose the game. Ryan wont be the first or second QB...