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Cmon man. You really believe that? I mean speed isn't overly critical, I get that, but to say size isn't a factor when you get in the redzone is...

We are 13th in the league (56%). Bess and Hartline have combined for 1 TD this year once we have crossed into the opposing teams territory....

Don't get me wrong, THill has shown he can be in-accurate, but I've seen Bess and Hartline now for 3+ years and I know what they give me and I...

See, I don't agree with that. I think we need a CB and a pass rushing specialist and focus all of the other picks in the first 3 rounds (which...

Stats don't tell the whole story. Hartline and Bess are not red zone targets. In fact, you could say they are almost worthless in the red zone....

Some interesting names on here. Marcel Reese is a heck of a FB (not really a TE), I guess he could be considered an H-Back but he has carried...

At least we didn't take Ed Dickson AND Dennis Pitta over Graham and Gronk. How would that have looked?

Honestly, I think it was the line play that propelled him to a couple of first down runs. The tackles were keeping their guys running down hill,...

Whoah, gotta jump in here. 2nd in catches, 3rd in yards, tied for 2nd in TDs. I'm putting AJ Green and probably Reggie Wayne ahead of...

More than that, they are risking 15 yard penalty's if they are taking shots at is quad. Any time you go after a QB's knee's, you risk a flag...

This is defenseless, no question. I would flip this though to say what if Ireland actually hit on 2 or 3 more linemen? I know we would still be...

Wow, sounds very similar to this situation. I recall Brees having a really good last 2 years for the Chargers. Not Peyton Manning good, but...

So you and Armando are saying that only b/c Stephen Ross is saying we should get Manning that the coaching staff and fan base are buying into...

There is one additional alternative. At each pick, you determine if a guy has the talent to be elite or take you to a Super Bowl. If he does...

Oh, this argument I get. We definitely made mistakes in not taking a QB pre-Ireland / Parcells era. I was talking specifically about this...

Again, I'm not understanding where your 50% and 90% is coming from. Is it coming from Jeff Ireland, Parcells, and Sparano? Because if it is, I...

I feel ya man. I understood your post b/c I read it in full. I'm assuming most people did not therefore the attacks insued. In the end, if a...

I don't think his point was this. In today's NFL, a QB is the most important position on the field. We all get that. But if you grade a QB out...

Wow, too bad you are not in the Dolphins FO. Ever applied there as a scout?

Who's perception is this? Mel Kiper? Mike Mayock? or the Miami Dolphins Front Office. You truly have no idea what the FO is doing in analyzing...

Again, because the franchise has not believed in any of the QBs that were picked when they were picking and with the potential exception of Matt...

I think the OPs point is exactly that though. Had we tried, we may not have Jake Long or Vontae Davis on this team and we would still be sitting...

Figured I would chime in, see my responses/opinions to each of your steps. I think the biggest obstacles are the health and trying to pursuade...

Just want to make sure I understand what you are saying. In getting Griffin we would still be 3 or so years away from playoff contention,...

Until next January when Fisher leads the team to a WildCard spot and a 1st round playoff win. The week before the divisional game, Jay Glazer and...

Considering Tony has very little experience with calling plays, I'm not sure this was the best move for the Jets. First of all, you mention he is...

RGIII is much more similar to Newton than he is Vick by the way. He's actually more accurate then both guys, not as elusive as Vick, more...

Because Sam Bradford is much more of a proven commodity than Moore. Bradford 2011 53% Comp; 6.1 YAtt; 6 TDs; 6 INTs Bradford 2010 60% Comp; 6.0...

Been reading the thread and just had to reply to this. We all know you can win a SuperBowl nowaday's with a good to great QB. Big Ben and Eli...

Julio Buckley can kick Chuck Norris' a$$.

St. Louis will have to trade with ONLY Cleveland if they want Blackmon. This guy will not make it past the 4th pick, guaranteed. So in the end,...

I'm in agreement here. The question marks surrounding this guy incredibly outweigh the positives and I think that's why the experts have him...

I'm pretty sure Jason Taylor is a slam dunk for the HOF. You won't find many (if any) voters NOT voting him in. Most TD's in the history of the...

Then expect to trade out of the 1st round entirely. He will not be a 1st round pick.

Yeah, it's not out of the question that all 3 will be gone considering Washington, Cleveland (alot of ammo to move up), and potentially another QB...

I think we all have to take a step back and realize how hard it is to play cornerback in the NFL today. There's only one Darrelle Revis. VD is...

Not all about wins and losses. #1 he had a VERY good QB (drafted by him but it was really a no-brainer so early in the 1st) throughout the early...

The National Media has a love affair with this guy and yes his resume shows that earlier in his tenure, he was very successful. The problem was...

As a current Philadelphia resident for the past 10 years, PLEASE NO. The worse in game coach (timeouts, challenges, etc.), does not understand...

It was Westbrook for the Eagles about 5 years ago. He broke a big run and just dropped down at the 2 yard line when there wasn't a guy around him...

Whoa. I don't see that. They were already inside the 30. The defense already failed. This has nothing to do with not having faith in the...

Believe it or not, I was saying this as well. Anything can happen on a FG attempt (botched snap, kicker muffs, etc.) but with the way this rookie...

You forsee the new coach going back to a 4-3? I'm not so sure I agree. I think the new coach/gm lets Langford walk, re-signs Soliai and adds to...

Can't tell if it was the way UCLA was playing USC's WRs or what but did it seem like USC had a lot of called WR, TE, and RB screen plays?...

58% Completion %, 6 TDs, 8 INTs. He has been better than his first couple of games, but still not worth 2 1st round picks.

Couple of comments. With regards to Bush being much better than the field, your forgetting about a guy that replaced Bush in NO. Sproles has...

Please no. 3 neck surgeries for a 36 year old QB. I know he's Peyton Manning, but he's not Superman. If Peyton has one more elite season left...

Wow, if that's the price, they can keep him. 3 1st round picks and 2 solid starters (exception Merling)? Remember, the 1st rounder this year is...

Our 1st and which players though? Not giving our 1st and Vontae. The others are dispensable.

Fantastic write-up CK. It's funny, as I was reading through your post, the only face that was coming to my mind was that of Drew Brees. Everyone...

Yeah, in today's NFL since the rookie wage cap was implemented, it's foolish to pass on a QB if there is one that you like even remotely in the...

Who's booing and wearing bags on their heads. That's fine if you want to single out the fans who boo'd Chad Henne or some of the fans who boycott...

A generalized statement that is simply false. No need to bash a fan for wanting something better for his team in the future. I for one was not...

Sorry, not interested in a 28 year old rookie. 5-7 quality years out of a rookie? You should be getting 10-13 if the guy turns into a franchise...

I'm not saying you cut Peyton. You do everything to try to move him and add more picks/players to set yourself up for the next 15 years of having...

The similarities in all of these is that you have a STUD in waiting that will be a franchise QB for you for the next 6, 7, 8+ years. Montanna...

Tell that to: Montanna Favre Bledsoe All 3 of these guys had young bucks behind them and 2 of them are hall of famers. All 3 of them were...

Good post. Well said. I would add to the "difference between then and now" is that the QB position has taken on a whole new level of importance....

While I'm opptimistic we end up with 1 or 2 wins, as some mentioned earlier, anything can happen in the NFL (see last night). The Redskins game...

Agreed, but if the Broncos or Jags are interested and they are only 4 or 5 picks away, it's going to take a 1st, 2nd, and probably 1st next year...

For those thinking this guy could be a flop, go watch a Stanford game. You know, he is actually playing Football this year. You don't have to just...

So maybe the 2011 offense shouldn't be included under Daboll. I have been a lot more impressed with the offense this year, from a play call...

Wow, sorry man, just don't get the analogy. The players will never give up. They will fight to the end. The fans will continue to route for the...

How many time does it have to be mentioned: Players will never tank a season. They will always try to win. Fans don't have enough impact on a...

I want Andrew Luck, but in all honesty, if they want to pull an Eli / Elway move, I'll take the teams 1st and 2nd round pick in 2012 and the 1st...

Miami is not a bad place to play, live, etc. He would have a decent amount of talent around him. If you are worried about his fear of the fans...

I fully agree that the players would not try to lose a game to get a higher pick. 90% of these players have no idea if they will even be a Colt...

This was sarcastic I hope.

Bro, get off your high horse. You are no bigger a fan than those of us that see no hope for this year and are wanting a better chance at being...

Followed up by "Thanks boss, by the way, I'm excited that we have the 1st pick and am looking forward to adding another piece to the O-Line....

The way I see this is you have "in the present" thinkers and "to the future" thinkers. For the "in the present" thinkers, you can't bring...

Please don't ever mention Andy Reid again as a potential candidate. I live in Philly, I hear his press conferences, this fan base would go crazy...

Too high on Tate man. Also thinking the Dolphins need a RB more than they actually do. They believe in DT and it wouldnt' surprise me if the FO...

I know what my price would be, a 1st and a conditional 4th. You want to give us Tate, I'll take Tate and a 2nd. We're talking about another Top...

You better tell the Lions fans that they have no right cheering for this team since they were simply given Suh and Stafford. They are complete...

Have to chime in here as well. Let's do a little exercise. Take every player of the Dolphins and Lions, along with records over the past 5...

If we fall into Luck (pun intended), you can be sure this coaching staff at least will be gone. And none of those QBs you listed were as slam...

Hate to go back to this argument again, but Matt Ryan has not proven yet that he was a far better choice than Long. The weapons this guy has on...

I'm also going to assume you are being facetious. If not, you must not have been watching how bad Andrew Luck's team is this year and how well HE...

I'm more than certain you are being facetious. If by the slim chance you aren't, I will assume you have never seen Andrew Luck play.

Not to say Luck isn't worth the #1 pick or that you pass him up, but Tom Brady has traditionally had one of the best pass blocking lines in the...

CK, Considering your belief that Henne is not a franchise QB, I'm curious whether you believe that this is on Henne, the O Line, or a combination...

I get it. QB's are very important and when you have a Peyton Manning or Tom Brady, they can compensate for other issues among the team and still...

And Mark Sanchez took his team to the AFC title game two years in a row. Once again, the media has put in everyone's heads that the QB is the...

Lions are a terrible example. They have put together a good team in a short time (too early to tell if they are playoff bound), but they also had...

Yet the media continues to put QB's on a pedastal. It's too bad, really. You are right in that this a team sport and without 21 other guys, the...

Couldn't agree more with all your points and unfortunately #5 is the tough one to swallow. This team will get better as the year goes on and 5-11...

Ahh, the constant QB debate. Will it ever end? I'm beginning to think the answer is no. For the haters, the OP is simply asking how you think...

I'm not sure if this thread is a Henne is a "Henne Defense" or a "Knock on the Defense", but based on the the content the OP included, it feels...

This is a whole different issue that has nothing to do with whether or not Brandon Marshall was well worth 2 2nd round picks and a big contract....

I hear you on the off-field issues. It's a risk no question and we have seen that risk bite us in the arse before. The primary difference I see...

Hmm. 2 2nd round picks for a 26 yr old Top 5 WR. Are you saying you can't see a situation where Marshall plays beyond 2 2nd round picks? Are...

Your avatar is cropped???? Please send me the source.

Have to chime in on this topic. I think it's safe to say that the Marshall trade was indeed a good one. 2 2nd round picks is not alot for a...

You are correct. Easier to run on the 3-4.

Yeah, you are definitely looking at 1 game against one of the greatest coaches and QBs of all time and assuming that our D is suspect. We are...

This. To all the people claiming cramps, re-watch the play. It almost looked like he jammed his knee on a plant and immediately grabbed it as he...

I'll give you an idea. 0 sackes, 3 pancakes, 1 hit, and 1 pressure. When Jake looks at the tape, you can bet your a$$ he make sure it doesn't...

Have to admit, one of the funniest things I have ever heard in a Football telecast was this slip-up, and another hilarious quip by Gruden. Right...

Heard Golic talking this morning about the no huddle and he said that if the offense is substituting, they HAVE to allow the defense to substitute...

Since when was DT going to get the majority of carries for us? I was under the impression that it would be very evenly split between Bush and DT...

I get it, just venting that based on last night, it feels like the same old. Lacking somewhere.

The gushing over Solder was uncalled for. There is uncalled holding in all NFL games consistently but it did seem as though Solder was holding...

Agreed on our defense, but have to put a slight "overrated" tag on the Patriots defense as well. They knew we were throwing the ball every down...

I'm assuming he won't sign until after tonight. That would be the first game and his contract wouldn't be guaranteed (as you mentioned).

I have to agree with the sentiment that this is a flaw in the defense. It's not only the one Blount catch and run, there were a number of short...

Just to clarify the benching of Gurode, it was a decision made by the FO to see how the young guys could handle the role b/c they were already...

Gurode looks like he will either be cut or traded in Dallas. Here's a 5 time pro bowler and the Cowboys would rather let him go for cap space...

That's really my point as well. If you give the DLine 5 stars, Secondary 4 stars and the Linebackers 4 stars, how could you project only 2 wins?...

Was actually going to post this b/c I heard it on Mike and Mike this morning and thought it was outrageous. If the commissioner is tampering with...

I'm going to say no. Even if their level of play plateau's or dips a little, you still need to field a team and your alternatives are overpay a...

Here's my attempt at objectivity: Henne's strengths - Strong Arm - Quick Release Henne's weaknesses - Poor pocket awareness - Poor decision...

9 wins and an 85+ rating will lock him in as the QB for at least another year, I can guarantee that. I happen to predict 8-9 wins and an 80 or so...

I beginning to think for the first 15 teams, they simply took the teams record and ordered their QBs in that way (obviously they aren't rated that...

Don't discount the Giants offense. Hakeem Nicks is at worst a Top 10 WR in the league and Manningham will take over for Steve Smith's spot....

To me, your post simply proves that this game of football is not just about 1 player. I agree that the QB is the most important position, but the...

I don't think anyone wants to suck for luck but I also don't believe that anyone feels we are a Marc Bulger or Matt Hasselbeck away from the...

I would be shocked if he goes to New England. They currently have signed the "Law Firm" - Ben Jarvus Green Ellis, Kevin Faulk (re-signed),...

That's fair, but let me ask you. If Henne fails and Moore or Devlin have to come in, where do you see this team finishing for the year? 4-12,...

In the end, I think we need to stick with the QBs we have and I have good reasoning for why. We need a franchise QB. Is Henne that guy? So far...

I'll take Snelling...good change of pace guy, can catch the ball out of the backfield. If this truly will be a run first team, Bush and Thomas...

Honestly, I'm just excited for Football. It's hard for me to talk negatively about anything until I see the results. I don't think the deals...

In my eyes, a 5th is about the right compensation. Considering he was going to be cut anyway, the compensation you are giving New Orleans is...

Considering they were going to cut him, I would say if we gave up anything more than a 5th round pick, Ireland is insane. The only reason you...

Yeah, I have to agree with the other poster. Nnamdi is one of the few players in this league where if you see how he acts (very philanthropic,...

When does your mind shift to Orton having to find an open WR while Revis and Nnamdi are covering Marshall and Bess. If the Jets get that man,...

Cmon, Orton is the perfect Miami Dolphins QB (post Marino). Terrible on 3rd downs and terrible inside the red zone. We could very well have a...

I like Barnett as well, I just seem to think he will get a fairly decent contract in FA and I'm wondering if that is where we want to spend our...

Wow. Just wow. Joseph will be signing a contract with a team that is willing to pay him #1 / #2 CB money. My point is that this guy will get...

Welcome to the forum. I think you are overestimating the Dolphins activity in FA. Ray Edwards - This would be a huge mistake in my opinion....

Yes, actually it has. It's the provisions that don't really show up in the CBA but are more part of the calendar. Sal Pal (part of the owner...

It's not the actual CBA that they are having disagreements about. It's solely about the individual law suits and how they get resolved and most...

Guys, remember. It's not the items in the CBA that the players are pushing back on. It's the deadlines the NFL put in place around re-certifying...

Need some help. Now the NFLPA lawyers are coming out and saying that what the owners are doing with "requiring" the NFLPA to re-certify is...

My take for whatever it's worth. While I believe the NFLPA is the most to blame in this issue, the players themselves and the owners all have...

I am now. I do recall the play where AJ stole the game from us. It was right before the 30 yard Kevin Walter catch, correct? Seeing as how set...

Yeah, I get it. My point was simply that the date 7/21 was being tossed around like it was already a done deal (starting earlier this week). I...

I'm officially confused and will now take anything said by anyone in the media (or D Smith for that matter) with a grain of salt. Everywhere they...

Are you suggesting taking Cam Wake off the field, even in a 4 DL / 3 LB set? Sorry, I just couldn't agree with taking our best pass rusher off...

I think it's the inconsistency above anything. Re-watch the games and you will see Henne make some really good throws. 2 plays later he will...

I would push more for the Bulger side than giving up a 2nd for Orton (and $) or a mentally instable Vince Young. The way I see it, if Bulger can...

Have to say this is spot on. Can Henne make all the throws, yes. Does Henne make all the throws, no. Does that mean we cut bait, no. Give him...

Peyton is a different class as is most elite QB's in this league (ala Brady, Brees, Rodgers, etc.). Peyton strives for single digit INT's and...

I get what you are doing, bolding only the poor decisions, but if you want to count the INT's that were truly Henne's fault, obviously that number...

While I believe you have to place some blame on Henning and in some games a lack of running game, I don't think it's fair to just obsolve Henne of...

I know you have a point to make, just not quite sure what that is....can you enlighten us?

Based on the way this FO evaluates offensive line talent, I can say we would not have had the right player in place. They would have moved Carey...

Hmm, b/c the OP had some pretty good points against this. I know you are talking from your gut and your eyes based on what you see in a QB, but...

And I would say as a Falcon fan in 2008, I would rather have Ryan and Brown or Greco. As a Dolphin fan in 2008 (even in hindsight), I would...

Great post, especially around the circumstances being very important in the success of a player (even a QB). I will say that the fans who like...

Believe you me, Chad Henne deserves most of the blame for his poor performance. He made a lot of poor decisions last year and was for the most...

Not drafting Ryan was a mistake if you believe he could have turned into a Franchise QB on this team. Remember, the Falcons had alot more pieces...

Can't disregard the posters numbers. Ryan was simply in a better situation from the start and was able to feast on a much easier schedule. Now...

All valid stats...although I wouldn't say based on abilities that Henne has the upside that Matt Ryan does. I do find it encouraging that we can...

Again, you have no idea who will and won't be starting from this draft. That being said, 1 starter in 2011 for a team that didn't have a 2nd...

Have to agree with everything here. Hard to say who will and won't be a steal when nobody has taken an NFL snap. In the end, we addressed...

Would be great to get some confirmation on the K State O Line as to how good or bad it was throughout the last 2 years. Looked pretty bad in the...

This is getting old. My patience is wearing very thin for this sport and the greed involved. It's very ironic how much this is affecting the...

Who moves like Drew Bledsoe. If he falls to the late 2nd, I wouldn't be opposed to a trade up, but no way was he worth the 15th pick overall....

I don't think there is any question we could get a 2nd round pick for Henne today. Come on, if the Eagles could potentially get a Top 7 pick...

This is probably the most reasonable of all the posts. To say he would go after where he went when he was drafted seems a bit off. The guy has 3...

Come on. Dez Bryant? Crabtree? I'll give you Nicks b/c he actually had a phenomenal year and is a freak, but I can't give you those other two.

Give me 5 WR's you would take over him. I'll name 3: Andre Johnson Larry Fitzgerald Calvin Johnson That's it. The only other potential guy...

The guy is competitive, I'm not all that surprised he was frustrated last year. His OC put him in routes that didn't maximize his potential, his...

1000 TOTAL yards, maybe if he's given the ball 50%+ of the time. I just don't see Hilliard as that premier back and nowadays, it's not as easy to...

While I do think his value is a 2nd or 3rd, I would not trade him for that. You will find fans of other teams who think we are crazy to assume...

To jump in to the debate, I wouldn't blame Henne for his 2.8 YAC (although some balls were so badly thrown that Marshall had no chance at any...

Worth it and when we have an offense that actually allows him to run routes that are suited for him, you will see that he was worth way more then...

Let me start by saying, Kolb will NOT be a FA. The way Michael Vick plays, the Eagles know they need a capable backup and for what Kolb is making...

Really have to agree with this....I remember biting my nails, punching walls, etc. b/c we were losing to Seattle or Oakland or San Fran with 8...

Remember a couple of things before we go destroying Jeff Ireland. We don't truly know how much control he had over alot of his picks and FA...

Honestly, I'm all over the place with Henne and whether or not he can be a good QB. On one hand, the playcalling was horrendous, the offensive...

Vick had accuracy issues in Atlanta, this much is true. Roddy White was a rookie when Vick was there and as we have seen from many WR's, it...

Honestly, I don't really see how this is that far fetched. You trade down in the 1st and pick up another 2nd and you still may be able to snag...

Have to say, great post man. I'm fully behind you that this team is not close and it's really b/c of one issue. The offensive line. If we had a...

Here's actually what I would like to see. Long, Mankins, Incognito, Carey, Rookie RT (1st round - alot of solid tackles in this draft). We could...

Phil Simms is an interesting comparison considering he wasn't really that good of a QB (statistics wise). The Giants had a very good defense and a...

Well Matt Ryan wouldn't help with this line. Not defending Henne by any stretch b/c he's really not good and Matt Ryan is obviously much better...

Love this one. No matter the issues Tony has (and they have been much more limited this year), he is my coach and I am behind him 100%. Can't...

It's just sad we wasted those years with that defense and Ricky. Those who thought Jay Fiedler was an ok QB doesn't realize just how good that...

How the Patriots of 2008 did not get honorable mention, baffles me. I know they lost in the Super Bowl, but some can argue that what they did all...

Wow, hating on Danny. That's hard to do as a Dolphins fan. I'll give you respect for that, but no way can you consider a consensus Top 5 QB of...

You forgot the greatest Dolphin of all time (sans Marino) - ZACK THOMAS

Please don't go buy a Cam Wake jersey. Or Marshall, Bess, Long, Davis, Smith, Clemons, Dansby, Misi, Odrick, Langford. I suggest you go get a...

there is no way we are getting luck, I understand that. Carey is not the same this yr, time to move him while he still has value. Ronnie is not...

The redskins have 0 talent on offense minus cooley. Not to mention their line is a mess. mcnabb can be a fine stopgap.

Comparing our situation to the Detroit situation is an interesting one. I think it's safe to say that these two teams were at a somewhat similar...

I'm not saying Pennington won't be better then Henne, b/c I actually think Pennington will put up some points this week, but to say that it will...

Well said. I think each and every one of your 11 are spot on. #10 jumps out at me b/c when you look at our defense, it has actually been...

I think we all need to prepare ourselves for another long weekend. In my opinion, the Titans are actually the class of the AFC and are my pick to...

See and this is why I'm enjoying reading this site so much more then the other. Arguments and discussions that are civil. Over there it's...

The reason for this is simple. You cannot look at JUST the offense and defense. There is one other facet to a team and it just happens that this...

Just felt like I had to chime in here and although we're all Dolphins fans here, I think we can look at this fairly objectively. When looking at...

I think you are both going a little overboard on your stances. Henne does have forever to throw the ball thanks to an offensive line that is pass...

Fully agree and as I mentioned, Henne hasn't helped himself in gaining the coaching staff's confidence by throwing two critical INT's in the NE...

Good post, you make a lot of good points. The only thing you didn't touch on that I feel is a very important aspect of this team, coaching. Not...

Hey all, first time posting here. I'm a regular over at FinHeaven (Username: Qmar), but have been having problems logging in there anywhere but...