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In essence a proove it deal. I think NE was right on with this type of contract and I think more teams should use this proove it deal type of...

He will be a FA i think just like Moss. They will not keep both, you will not have to trade for him

Coaching career Lofton became the wide receiver coach for the San Diego Chargers in 2002 and has continued that role for four seasons. In 2006,...

Ex Player turned Coach James Lofton.

I want to say SD WR coach but I could be wrong. I would have to do the research

Those Commandments are important, You know they did a big thing on that at Romo on MNF before the Bills cowboys game, and what happens Romor...

IMO the best one out there would be Lofton, but I am sure he is looking to move for a promotion not the same position (of course unless the money...

I think this is a very important off-season for you all. You can look at the Bills for an example. Marv came in cut the dead weight, traded...

Ware will not be traded specially by just offering a 1st and Zach. Zach is not going to get you much more than a 4th in value IMO...

No I dont think you should give up youe 2 2nds this year. I really dont think Anderson is worth nearly what Schaub got either but that is...

Lets see NE is now on the clock...... NE Trades thier First to some idiot team for this years first and their 1st round selection next...

Houston set the market here I think. Because 2 2nds for an unprooven Shaub. So you can argue that Anderson is still unprooven, one good year...

Well we have one right now Peters Dockery and Walker have potential

LMAO, and that robbery might end the link of dealings that we have with the Bears as well. But O Well I hope it happens

I agree it makes me laugh. I am glad Marv was able to land Trent in the late Third. I hope we get what was rumored to have been offered for JP...

Well regaurding the QB there are Rumors (so who really knows) That they are going to offer something for Losman, For some reason the Bears...

Look for Mendinghall to be their pick

This is the info Buffalo is tracking about a trade for Williams. The Lions are willing to entertain offers and are looking for Vet help on...

So actually we would be going along the same track. Getting one of the Best Oline Coaches (Mouse was as well) But an older guy that may...

Ok so you are moving to a 3-4 Hmm now the Bills will be the only team in the AFCE that does not run a 3-4 But either way I am not sure is...

Really I would like one that can do both, block well and catch, but those are few and far between. Seeing Royal and Gaines are very good...

The thing about Briggs is He is a Cover-2 WLB, can he fit that 3-4/4-3 thing that you run. Also Like Cato June, the league knows Cover-2...

Been around awhile, and he is more of a blocker than the WR threat. I think the FO likes Schueman the rookie from Boise ST. But I really hope...

Yep most recent example Pollard

Agree so by saying we are signing him long term and such it is the same thing Peterson did to you all with Green, trying to inflate his value....

I agree Clark will not go anywhere. Bottomline Once Sanders signed his long term it allows them now to keep clark with the Tag IF needed

I agree you have Davis, Bennett Carlson Keller Rucker Tamme that is just to name a few Then you have the other TE from Mizzou...

This is all smoke. it is jsut posturing to try and get some value. You will see him stay as a RFA or sign a long term deal and get moved IMO....

Much like on the Bills site, Because we need a TE as well. I am saying stay away from any of the FAs and go in the draft. The only FA I would...

Because may have already offered a coach under contract with a team that season is still going on a job. The fact that the staff (your QB...

Hey why not works for the Pats

That I agree with but making an Offer and accepting the offer to a coach under contract that has not ended their season with no approval from the...

Sprarano will be your HC. That his how the staff is lining up. Now the question is does the league crack down on Tuna or not.

WEll it does not have to be the QB. BUt 100% of the time it will be because the green dot just ids the radio helmet. There can only be one radio...

I just want to see what happens this offseason for the Phins. As of right now I am not sure what Parcells role will be. I know he has an...

You will stay in a 3-4 that is one of the Major Reasons Parcells took the Job in MIA

Well I know they joined history with the other undefeated teams in the regular season. Fins, Bears did it twice, and Now the Pats. Congrats...

The point is wether they are freak INJ or a nagging INJ they are still the same he is OFF the field and not playing right? So that would...

One thing I will thank the Fins for is the conditional 5th they gave to an over the hill concussed QB. That alone should allow the Bills to get...

Wow that would be a very nice trade for you all, in Spite of Halls issues. But that is dreaming and will never happen, I do not see you trading...

Yeah well you always can go by projecting numbers either. I will reserve my judgment until I see a full season out of him. Which you never know...

I can see it now though. I come to visit Finheaven (when it gets back up) and see many many threads calling for RB. Then the comments well...

Well thinking about it that would be about right. Timeline wise

Thanx I will look

Where do you see the Wish lists I was wanting to see if they have it for other teams and I cannot find it

No prob

No it means they will get your 5th. If he met the escalators they would have got your 4th

Hey marvin Lewis may get canned out of Cincy as well

Well he was on the hot seat prior to this season. And NOT making the playoffs might be enough for him to be shown the door

Hey Losman can be had for a cheap price of a 4th Also knowing Tuna Pennington will be brought in. The new Vinny for him

Heck like I said in the other thread. CLE misses the playoffs Romeo may get fired

Well if Romeo misses the playoffs. Which very well could happen with a Titans win. He may be shown the door. Maybe that is why they are...

He has started getting better, but sorry there are much better safeties out there in the AFC right now to be saying he is Pro Bowl Caliber

Maybe he fires cam. I kinda am hoping that happens. Then hoping we can have hm be our OC, for the departing Fairchild

The more I think about this whole thing I think I have found two vets he will bring in for you. First. Terry Glenn Second Chad...

Hey Losman will be on the block and we will give you a discounted price of a 4th

Ahhh most of the time I do offer good football talk. Well I guess except during the weeks leading up to the Bills Fins games, then I guess I do...

Wow I hope for your sake this is just a rumor. I do not think Anderson is that great of a QB. Def not worth a 1st and 3rd

Based off that list looks like maybe one later round pick

They will not trade Quinn. Anderson showed again yesturday he had a year that he will never duplicate. and he is nothing more than a BU

OK well if that is the case What GM and Coach would want to come there to have Daddy overlooking their shoulders. In essense nothing more than a...

And in Bills ESPN interview he said all personnel decisions will be at the GM with not being over-ruled by him. So is he a man of his word?

Listen he has said in his ESPN interview that the GM would have the final say in all personnel decisions, and he would not over-rule him. So if...

Nope taking the man at his word, from his interview on ESPN

Ok well if this is the case Man I am sure there will be a ton of GMs and Coaches lining up at the door saying PLEASE let me be a Puppet

It kinda is. But all I am saying is all these people saying Bill will draft like this. He has stated he will let the GM do his job and not...

i see carlson as a guy dropping out of day 1 he has been very unimpressive, i also have mike jenkins behind talib and cason as my #4 but thats...

I know I know he is a talent god for a team HE is coaching. How about a team another coach is coaching. Not to mention he did say that the GM...

And if the GM wants Ryan instead of Gholston looks like Ryan

I was actually buying into everything that you said up until that point right there. Yes he does know talent. The problem I have and it is...

OK I will bite: You will have to forgive me I have not talked much about the draft ocombines. Comments are in red. n the Bills site yet. And...

Well we talked about it for a little bit and that was it. Not to many concerns there. We know your team is still a couple years out. Also we...

Ok I understand what he would like to do. But I would have to think Jerry Jones would also have an opinion on that as well.. The problem here...

Ok well let me ask you this. If he does, I am not sure of too many coaches and or GMs that will mind having Daddy second guessing everything they do?

Based off his chat with ESPN it does not sound like he will be the final word

Based off that I think people can stop worrying about WHO Parcells would draft. He stated the GM would be doing all that

Not sure if Cason falls that far, though it would be essentially still the 1st. I think he is gone before that. Rucker hmmm if you are getting...

I also Remember Jaws saying JP Losman has turned the corner. And will be an excellent QB for the Bills as well. Let than 6 months later he...

Dont worry about that. The guy has had jobs with 4 different teams and never has been fired. He quits on everything

Win games. that is what your team should be playing for right now. Show people that your ONE win was not a fluke

You know the funny thing is that was said Best on NFL Network. How do you coach for 4 teams and never get fired once. YOU QUIT. But yet...

Did it as a coach as well. Not the VP of Football Operations. I am happy for you all you got the guy you wanted. But tread lightly here OK....

Here you are right to a point. He has a track record for getting solid teams for him to coach. I wonder how good he will do finding talent for...

Also for some reason Until your current GM gets fired I do not thik he will have as much of an Impact as many are thinking

I beg to differ. I think that is what you are. You are going to go away from this Hybrid and go to a strict 3-4. It was reported on ESPN that...

And you believe a thing this guy says. I am sure deep down he thinks well this guy does not scare me. But you will never hear him say...

Here it is. Look for Bledsoe to come out of Retirement and play for you all. Or Vinny. Also not to mention Terry Glenn will get...

If he has as much power as I think he is going to watch him pull something like he did in Dal as a Coach. No logos "UNTIL" they earn that fish

Best thing is he was going to be a high pick until this year. IMO.. I think you are getting great Value in the later rounds heck could be the...

Erik Ainge in the later rounds. That is exactly what I hope the Bills do as well

There is a tone of WRs all the way through 3 rounds. Also if the Juniors declare look out this could be a very talented and deep WR class

Any word on how lone you all are still going to be without finheaven?

While it it a little easier. I would have came in with the Congrats if you would have beat us as well. You are proud franchise with a great...

Bob Sanders is a nice Safety that has been doing it for more then one year. Probably will hit the market. Colts strapped for cash. Though they...

Hey I aprreciate the sorrys for the Bills loss. I would have liked to see them pull it out. But the fact is they are not there YET? Getting...

Well I am glad it is a dream. It will not come true though sorry. You will not get both first and a second for the number one overall. Also...

For some reason I think that if he sells. The new owner really would not take complete ownership until the following year, but will have all the...

True, But I think you have INJ issues at S so I dont know right now that is a rock and a hard place.

Yeah I think you could get a nice MLB in the second, I also think you still can go Otah, but what I am hearing about him right now is he will go...

Also i think you have enough projects on your team as it is.

I understand what you are saying. But for some reason something bothers me about him. With all the INJ going on in the league this year and NOT...

And this makes me wonder why actually. I know age and all that like I have said this year has finally caught up to your DEF. I think Zach...

Personally watching him play, though the scheme may have a little to blame. I think he is eaily at the tail end. Looks sluggish coming off the...

Acutally they tried to slip him on the PS, and he did not want to sign with them. So then went to Det. Personally I think he will have a very...

Problem is Can you stop McGahee? You know they are going to give him the Rock. Specially just watching a Bills team have 2 RBs go over 100,...

Is that not what rebuilding teams do. Sorry in the day and age of the Cap players staying with one team are going to be few and far between....

Maybe his baest chance is to Den. But I do not think you are getting anywhere close to a second for him. Wrong side of 30, and now is...

I dont know about the draft you have up there. Dorsey and Talib will go in the First

I am willing to bet he does not get that much if he is traded. Big Contract Wrong side of 30 and this year showing it. Andd every...

I think you are right. Big Contract Wrong side of 30 and now is showing it. I would bet at best a 3rd.

Briggs will be an UFA and cannot be traded seeing he is not under contract

For one I am not talking about Buffalo. I do not think you will have to much comp with Buffalo. Now that being said say a player gets offers...

And this is where you will overpay. Look at what Hutchinson did for Gs. Now the top 3 Gs in FA are going to get a big payday. You already...

Hey thats fine fire him up. Maybe the Bills can get him as their OC. That seems like something he can do well

No one is going to give you "Value" That does not mean you will not get a trade up. There is no telling DAL might offer their 2 firsts this...

You all really need to trade down. But I guess I would have to say McFadden if you cannot I think it is not the best for you But unless...

Trufant will not be that much cheaper. Look for him to probably get exactly Clements Money And Samual getting more

Sunday Afternoon games. meaning all sunday games. The Thurs and Monday Sat Games once they start them cannot be flexed

Well the decision will have to be made by Tues. And yes week 16 games can be flexed. ...rule changed in '07; no more week 16...

Not true. Lets say a team like Minny or one of them on the rise go after the same FA you all want. WHO do you think will have to overpay?...

No watching it he is getting the ball up there. The QBs are not sitting in long enough or the ball is sliding threw their hands

Well Colorado State wants Fairchild. I will tell you makes me wonder sometimes about these schools

Yes it does work fine for them. But do they have a 2nd overall and a 1st overall doing it. Comeon a rebuilding team cannot have all that...

I do not think he will be a Pat next year. They need Defense their is getting old. Also McFadden will not really do anything but give you a...

Hey if you want Losman will be on the Block and seeing you are in the Div we will give him to you for a 3rd

I will ahve to give him some props. A nice powerful guy that was hard to bring down today at times. Ran with some heart.

To all the people calling for Cams head. Listen to me for one second. Yes I know it sucks. But this was the reality that so many of you...

Must have missed that. Just going from the announcers of the Buf and fins game saying Bills had the most with 12 and Fins are close with 11

How can you justify having one of the Best Ronnie Brown a 2nd Overall Pick and wanting to draft another RB 1st overall. That would be a...

I think you will have Cam next year as well. Remember this is a very young team on O particularly. Devisated by INJ. The only team with...

If you do take a QB in the draft wait until the seond day. I think Ainge is going to make a nice NFL QB. Also I think Henne is going to slip as...

Hey you all MAYBE this is good for him. Look at the Bills Rookie for a second. 1 TD 5 picks in his first 4 games as a starter. Gets hurt,...

Stokley got signed to a contract extension this week

Well you can say Farve. was one

Wow you think MM would be telling Cam right now we cannot go back to Lemon. I mean he was the coach here when we kepth flipping from Holcomb to...

Ha ha ha you know we have the hardest schedual in the NFL right? Also we have been hammered with INJs as well. But must be a sign of good...

Davis does not last to the third. The Bills take him in the second if he is there.

I love Buffalo Weather. But dont worry to much you can always wait an hour and see. But all signs point to a very cold and snowy game....

He is not a FA in 08 he is in 09. But look for him to maybe ask for a trade because rumor has it he is unhappy with the way he is being used in...

With no chatman who can I expect to see toting the rock against our def so I can cheer against him. OOO and sorry to say the drought continues...

Tiki gods it is ok to bless them with a win. Just not this week

Well I will say from looking at the whole thing Cam looks to me like a rookie coach on a team with very little talent. Not to mention a Def...

For some reason that is all media. Although your media is kinda blind to the fact that you are a bad team with a ton of INJ. But none the less...

Here I will have to say I am pleasently surprised. I think we have found some depth that many people did not think we have

I guess it happened a couple weeks agao from what i am hearing. And he has been trying to play with it for 3 weeks now

But has not every team suffered more INJs this year. I mean also look at the Bills 12 on IR with a Rookie QB and Fred jackson who was 4th...

Current Weather Update from Weather.com and for Orchard Park Game time 30 degrees. Feels like 22 Snow to Ice chances 80% all day

Torn PCL may require surgery

Actually there are a good number of QBs coming out in this years draft. Ryan Brohm Woodson Henne Brennan Then you have leading the...

I know I just used McFadden on the board as because if you did draft him you would likely have to deal or eventually release Brown. Where then...

Although I do like some people here are High on Trent I would not go crowning him yet. But next year with Maybe another WR (Bryant...

One thing I will take from this game IS IF Trent truely is Buffalo's long term answer. For all of JPs flaws I know he could sling it no matter...

Dude I am not faulting you for that. I think the bad weather would hurt us more if we did not play on turf. I think the turf helps a ton in...

I know you are looking for any sign of light but can I ask you something? Would you not think that the Bills speedy WRs. Lee/Parrish/Reed Have...

Bottomline is that Peterson has NOT finished a full season of football since he was a freshman at OU.

My point was that team evaluators look at certain players and labels them with a shelf life of games. I would be willing to be the same thing...

I actually think McFadden runs with lower pad level than Adrian Peterson.

Ok How many seasons has he finished every season without missing any games due to INJ for the phins since he has been drafted?

I think Dorsey is a lot of hype. I seen him fall off big time this year I know he got hurt. Looking back at the last couple of drafts. I...

The only thing I will talk about is the Chris Long pick. I do not think he is a better DE than Calais Cambell.

Its not really about McFadden as much as it is about Brown. Just used McFadden as an example. Heck I also could have said Felix Jones in the...

I will talk about the bolded. Although you think you can get Hadnot cheap the only way would be to sign him before he hits FA. Reason I am...

From all news reports I am hearing the weather looks like High in the low 40's with 60% percip. Weather that is freezing rain or snow hard to...

I know most of you do not want to lose JT and ZT but to tell you the truth it would probably be better if they did leave or retire. Heck not...

Yep Samuals is going to get a bigger contract than Clements. Heck he would have last year if he did not get tagged. Nate is was not the best CB....

For some reason I think it is sometime in April

IDK maybe. But I would think a guy like him if he were to be delt to another team or released anything like that I would guess he would just...

I think you may have seen the last game of him in a fins uniform. I would be willing to bet he retires at the end of the year

Ok gotcha. I am sure there are more. Hey hope you all get finheaven up soon, miss football talk with the rivals.

Wow from reading the gameday thread here everyone wanted Cam to let Beck go deep. NOW people are calling for the ultra conservative Marty Ball

There is a chance on any given Sunday. While I do hoep you all get a Win it am hoping it does not come this Sunday. Trent back at the...

Though the talent probably does intrigue a lot of people. I think it would not be the smartedt move to draft McFadden. I mean serious a 2nd...