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Yes. Are you denying that you are just here to cause a fight? We can do this all day. Captain Tabloid.

He is perfectly fine. The AFC is just loaded with better teams but Denver will decline very soon as will KC. I don't think Baltimore is that much...

Seriously? I have been here since 2010 and I was vehemently advocating the Fins to take Cam. I had posters here tell me he would not even be an...

Stealing the signals was the reason Vinatieri hit the GW FG. LOL This discussion is pointless

Offer Cowher...$15MM/year for 5 years.

This whole "cheating" thing smells of sour grapes! What NE does it does and it has zero bearing on the fact that the Fins have been irrelevant for...

Sean Payton may be available. LOL

Where are those blaming the refs? their fault for all the dropped passes?

Sure felt like 50. What a joke.

LOL - thats the point he cannot win in the playoffs consistently. I'd take them both on the Dolphins RIGHT NOW!

Yes, Stork was Winston's Center. And JBJ's brother Chandler is pretty good too. They suck at drafting receivers but that is about it as far as I...

I don't want year by year but looking at the team now: Brady, Gronkowski, Edelman, Vereen, Solder, Vollmer, Stork, Collins, Hightower, Easley,...

If the Raiders can beat SF. Anyone can beat anyone.

Back it up...they have been killing it for like what 12 years? You sir are mistaken.

Not that there is anything wrong with that.....

This blaming the Refs thing is insane. If the Refs were biased then NE would not have had that TD overturned on that Browner hit that the entire...

Rex Ryan! Would be AWESOME!

Where is this perception that NE cannot draft well coming from?

Just sign Revis

I think their O is due since GB and SD sort of kept them in check. Or maybe their O is just overrated? Tough to gauge.

NO! Negative! Absolutely Not. Well Maybe,

Ah...valid point. We'll be facing Mallett and Woodhead. We can take them then! :)

My worry is the next time we play NE they have all those players back and then whats the score? 49-3?

So literal. Look I have their D on my fantasy team and Edelman (Sp. Teams) is deadly. Worth mentioning or not. And not D lineman but pass rusher....

NE won w/o their best receiver/TE (Gronkowski); Offensive Lineman (Mankins); D Lineman (Jones). They also lost Edelman and WE still could not...

And he almost beat Pitt (heck of a comeback). ON THE ROAD!

True Henne was not playing CB when we were lit up on Monday.

I recall way before the draft I was pushing for us to take Cam. Of course then Luck was the fave to be #1 and Cam was a mid to late first rounder...

I agree, I just don't know if NE's D is any good. Probably better than Buffalo but not as good as the Jets. I think we need a running game to...

He plays well in the playoffs. Thats what counts. And he does it on the ROAD!! Give the devil his due.

Brady is #3? Wow!! Other than the INT I cannot imagine him playing a better game. LOL But #6 is Cam Newton!! So Sick!!! I wish we got him.

I can see Brady lighting it up but did we really have to make Woodhead look like Chris Johnson? Bleh

They used that damn double TE formation, and play action works really well off that. Plus Woodhead looked like Chris Johnson last night (at...

Well now, my poor grammar aside, the Patriots are ridiculous!

So long as Ellis and Woodhead cannot get going and they become one dimensional we can win.

I bet a lot of it will be on Reggie Bush coming to Miami? No?

Fact is NE is vulnurable. Brady HAS to win games for them. I cannot recall the last time Brady played poorly and the running game and D bailed him...

They have that formation where the TEs line up and you have no idea if its a run or a pass to one of the TEs. Other than that and Welker, don't...

Key is to make NE one dimensional but that means getting a lead. People forget that Belicheat coached one of the biggest A Holes in NFL history....

Freaking Revis shut down Dez and I have Dez on my FFL team!! UGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!! We are not good enough to beat NE, yet. But anything can happen as...

Not so fast there Sect. Perk does not play at the end of the 4th quarter because of his LeBron like FT shooting in clutch situations. You may even...

Well we are not getting Cam since Shannahan and the evil Red Skins have their eye on him.

Either Overeem or Kharitonov will win the Grand Prix. Fedor should move to LHW, if he can cut the weight.

Double dose of crow for me Bam, great job by your team and its coaching staff. I will not doubt them again. Good luck the rest of the way. I am...

Pack nearly beat NE with some no name QB, with Rodgers there its a given.

It was tongue and cheek when asked about the HBO series though. He did not come out and threaten to hurt the teams players. But my point was, why...

Oh my, thank you

"Experts" are saying we should take Cam Newton but believe the Red Skins will trade everyone for the rights to grab him as Shannahan sees him as...

Bam, I was banned from Gangreen after like two posts, what is up with that? Jets fans are mean!!! :)

Actually thats not bad, this game is going to be a killer...

As you can see I asked an innocent question, they immediately accused me of being a Patriots fan and attacked and then I get banned?!?!?! Ha ha ha

Quote: Originally Posted by Auburn [IMG] Why so much hate? Seriously? I can see the hate toward the Yankees, they always win and outspend...

Is he definitely coming back?

What, you are insane. Revis gives great insight like. "Darrelle Revis is the best CB ever" and of course "The Jets will beat the Patriots just...

Who pitches innings 1-7 though...he he

The real problem here is that we are all guessing. I'd love for us to get Cam but what then? I am seriously questioning our ownership. What is the...

I enjoy the game, what is yours?

Back to the topic at hand, it seems that the Jets forum is just like the players and fans (most of them)...sensitive. They can give it out but...

agreed but in 2007 it was the Hawks, Cavs, Pistons then Lakers. It can be done. But you're right those legs are ancient!

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Heat improved themselves more but the Bulls style will manifest itself in the playoffs, that style = super physical, in your face. If you feel so...

Nah, you have to give the Bulls their due. Their coach is playoff tested (as an asst) and D Rose, Deng, Noah and Boozer are formidable. They...

Yeah, NE is super young and has what seven picks of the first 100 in this year's draft. The Jets future is AWESOME!!!! Yawn....

True, same way Atlanta did. Its entirely possible. I think the Bulls are the toughest match up, I want no part of that team early.

NY is not built for the playoffs, come on Sect, step up. They play limited D and rely on a fast pace and threes, not good threes mind you. Celts...

I know, he is the best CB EVER!!!! Best NFL Player EVER...If he played QB, he'd be the best QB EVER.... Problem is, if he plays safety who...

When the playoffs start, lets see if they pass or go for the glory and chemistry is all out of whack. Thats all I am saying. You were the one that...

Maroney was the starter then not BJGE, that was a vastly different NE team in week 2. If you're down 14, you don't want to see that clock killing...

Lmao!

Vs the Jets on Dec 6th BJGE = 72 yards, 4 YPC, 2 TDs. Woodhead = 104 receiving yards They are better than you and actually I gave them credit...

Green-Ellis: 1,008 yards rushing, 4.4 YPC, 13 TDs Woodhead: 547 yards rushing, 5.6 YPC, 5 TDs ~ 379 receiveing yards on 34 Rec and 1 TD. LDT:...

Until they win, they are not a TEAM but a collection of individuals. Like the Borg. Lets see what happens in the playoffs.

I am not saying McCourty is better, but he is a play maker so if Sanchize decides to get aggressive it could backfire. Do you really not think...

According to Scouts, Inc. -Patriots: 10 observations [IMG] By Matt Williamson Scouts Inc. New York at After breaking down film of...

You sound like its a done deal, Section, but far from it. KG and Perk are going to be back before month end. Lets see how the Celtics look then,...

I will be a Patriots fan for the next few days so that I can talk football with Bam. The way I see it the Jets have two opions on D. #1) Blitz...

He better win now because in 2012, the Cs are bringing Howard to Boston to play with Rondo!!! YEAH BABY!!!

No, we are all rooting for NE, Cromartie is a douche bag, the same douche bag that could not even name all what nine of his kids? The Jets players...

Cromartie is a douche bag, now I hope the Patriots smash the Jets. Go have more kids, fool.

Cavs have bad contracts (Jameson) and don't see many young promising players, sorry, any. The LeBron decision put them about 10 years back....

Thanks

Reason I posted so much in this thread is because Section kept demeaning me, stating he knows way more about hoops than me. I 100% disagree and...

A Patriots fan friend of mine said the Pats would win 52-3, lol, he said if I watched the game closer (the one they won 45-3), he said the...

So defensive, the Cs beat the Heat twice w/o Perk. That being said the Heat could win the next four against them. All I am saying is that at C and...

Newton to the Bills at 3!?!?!?!? Oh my and here I thought his future was promising.

Agreed, but KG and Perk are still down, can't win consistently with Harangody in there instead of them. Once West, KG and Perk are back the Cs...

Take it, Cs can win on the road.

The Jets are ready, freaking Rex is firing shots at Brady and BB. This game will be physical, some say its 50/50, I am not sure about that because...

Lets just catch the Jets, one step at a time.

I believe it, the Heat is definitely the most exciting and marketable and fresh team out there. And since I changed my mind on Bron, I have no...

NE uses draft picks as currency, old Red Skins did it. Same for 49ers. NE also take coachable players, they said on Inside the NFL (if you have...

Possibly but the key there is being able to guard DH one on one and the Cs can throw 18 fouls at him. Plus Arenas and JR are not defensive...

I am going to say the Heat...they are the hot ticket...both @ home and on the road? Cs are close I bet, every game is sold out ticket wise.

NE's run game is not awful, The Law Firm was killer for my fantasy team, LOL. He did have 1,000 yards and double digit TDs and Woodhead can...

Are we talking % filled or total attendance? Arena size matters and stuff?

When did I ever say that about TA or Powe? Posey was pretty good though eh? Look, of course the system helps, you and I would do well playing...

No, BLITZ!!!! BLITZ!!! And then BLITZ AGAIN!!!

I guess with Brady there for the next 5-6 years, its best to build an O Line and get a top notch running game. So we can control the clock and...

Is Shaq injured right now? Haslem may not come back this season. Why do you find it hilarious? We are talking as of right now.

I am not sold on Ingram, I would only take a 1st round back if he were a sure thing. NE is winning with two FA backs. NYJ are using a 3rd rounder...

Shaq is playing and Haslem is out til April. Whats the matter Section 8? Someone challenges you and you get all bitter? You underestimate Nate and...

I think giving Brady time is the worst thing any D coordinator can do. You let him scan the field like that and he kills you. I'd blitz him and...

I'll take Orton too and I think Pierre is underrated and he was injured this year but that does not mean anything for next year?

If Trent Dilfer can win a SB, so can Tim Tebow!

#1 priority is a good QB, with Brandon Marshall here especially, lets utilize his strength. I seriously would go after McNabb, he proved when he...

Baby would be first, he is 24 and improving. Perk is due back by month end, Haslem is due back in April and he is 30, no way he is not declining...

Esiason said he converted on passes he would not have even attempted last year. So thats progress. Esiason is a huge NE kiss ***, he was saying...

Rush three and keep eight in coverage? Is this what you mean? Make the Patriots run the ball?

I am all for it, its only money!!!

This AM, Esiason said that Manning audibled runs and did not even look at Wayne, he settled for FGs. Esiason then said Brady likely would not do...

Bring in Favre!!! LMAO! I am not sure about Kolb, I'd rather have McNabb.

Agreed, Manning settled for FGs, the Colts just don't have a 2nd strong red zone threat as Clark and Collie are hurt. I am not sure Brady settles...

Yes, but you are intelligent and can form a sentence. Revis, for example, a fellow Jets fan on these boards is a blowhard. BB hates the Jets...

#1) Big Baby is improving and healthy, Haslem is declining and injured. No GM in his right mind would take Haslem now or in the near future. Baby...

Except the Jets had the hatred coming in, now the Pats will be angry too, LOL. You guys hate one another...HATE...Admit it!! LOL

If age is not a factor then how do you take James Jones over Shaq? Inconsistent.

NFL: Broncos' Elway tweets that he won't trade Tebow http://footballifi.com/news/NFL-Broncos-Elway-tweets-that-he-wont-trade-Tebow-1018816.html...

I am eating crow, I thought Manning would destroy the NYJs but he is not as good with the Blair Witch Project and Tamme replacing Collie and...

Haslem over Glen Davis in a Draft!??!?! NO WAY!!! Baby is SIX YEARS YOUNGER. STOP THE INSANITY. And no one would ever draft James Jones over Nate...

Our future QB will be playing tonight! :)

Bam, I can gather from your posts that you are a good dude. Congrats on the win and GL aganst the Pats. But please let Revis answer for himself....

I guess we'll see, right now Perk is still hurt. But if he comes back and can help during the playoffs and Delonte returns as well, the Celts are...

Nothing like being a little chicken, Revis Island. You said Revis was the best CB EVER!!! Oh yes you did, we'll see how he does against NE! I...

We'll agree to disagree, Big Baby, Shaq, and Nate give them a decent eight, if you think otherwise, well you're entitled.

Yankees are one CC injury away from medicority. Texas is better if Brandon Webb is healthy, but they may not have to be as all they need to do is...

Dude, I was just razzing you but best CB ever? Deion Sanders is rolling now as is Ty Law. Come on now, relax, I was just teasing. But all jokes...

Thanks Antoine...but you're the one who believes the Jets will roll to the SB, this is the same team that lost 45-3 to McCourty...nice man to man D.

Maybe if the Jets played more zone they would not have lost 45-3 to McCourty and the Patriots?

So, when facts are presented you cry and call me a rookie? HMMMM Me thinks you are a child

Funny Scouts, Inc. sees it otherwise Patriots rookie Devin McCourty was one of the best defensive backs against the deep ball. He led the...

You may be right

Hey Revis Island, how come McCourty had more INTs than Revis and Cromartie combined????

They would face the Celtics I believe

I know EXACTLY who you are! OH YEAH!!! BTW, it starts with leadership, which begins with ownership first and foremost. Do we have good owners?...

The only thing I want the Jets to do is embarrass themselves again, whether its against NE or NY.

Facts? Did you watch the Celtics vs. Cavs last year, LeBron was shut down...numbers are misleading at best. That serious was hardly in doubt. We...

I am not a Yankees fan but right now that pitching rotation is suspect and the lineup is aging other than Cano/Teix. I think as things stand now...

You are still under the impression that regular season and playoffs are identical. They are not, and WE DO NOT HAVE PERK YET, he is a big time...

From ESPN: Dolphins' non-Harbaugh plan 7:09AM ET Miami Dolphins Top Email Comments Share The Miami Dolphins' pursuit of Jim Harbaugh is...

On paper the Red Sox look much better, NYY better do something.

They beat the Jets who have accomplished absolutely nothing since Namath retired. Whoooopti Doooo.

Yikes, I think NO will pound Seattle...35 - 10 Colts will smash the overrated Jets...28-17 But what do I know? LOL

Knicks are not built for the playoffs...more half court/D oriented. But like the Suns of old, they are fun to watch during the regular season.

Instead of the Wild Cat, we'll run the spread offense in 2011!!! LOL

So true!

Its going to get worse before it gets better. Unfortunately.

Rex thinks Brady is an average QB at best, product of the system....Yawn. His act is getting old. As I say to the Jets fans, win something then...

We sound like loser Jets fans here. Who cares what he does on his own time.

Is what it is, the meeting did not end as expected so the Fins decided to keep Sparano and just do a massive OC search. McDaniels is out btw...

Schechter said that Miami told Harbaugh the DC stays, that was part of the issue.

I heard this AM that he is being retained from Adam Schechter (sp?) It makes sense with the CBA expiring to bring in a whole new system seems...

I respectfully disagree, the Celtics successfully held LeBron in check last year. I will give you Wade, but no one in the NBA matches up with him....

Perk is excellent at rebounding, blocking shots and playing the likes of Howard one on one. But seeing Rondo at 100% was so sweeeeeeeeeeeeeet. Say...

http://www.mlive.com/wolverines/index.ssf/2011/01/jim_harbaugh_reportedly_on_ver.html Harbaugh is coming!!!

You have to admit it was an impressive win as the Cs were w/o KG and Perk.

I guess simplification is not the worse thing in the world.

The Fat 6'7 PF had a decent game, eh?

I'd rather have Favre than Young, LOL. Can we not move into a different direction with high character guys that actually like football and not...

Agreed 100%, this is my issue with bringing in a whole new staff. They will not have a chance to implement their style or bring in their players...

There is a "Jest" forum? Cool!

They should penalize them for wasting the league's time and make it $150,000!

Since there may not be a 2011 season, who cares. CBA is the most important thing right now.

Schecter, Mort, Simms, etc... say otherwise, I hope you're right though.

And fans

The "experts" on ESPN said they think this will drag out until August...as the two sides are so far apart. So lets say Harbaugh is here, there is...

My question is what can a new coach do? With the collective bargaining agreement expiring and the players well no longer under a contract...you...

The real crux here is at best Tony is a lame duck coach now. Silly. Get rid of him and bring in Cowher. Harbaugh will likely end up in SF anyway....

I meant the Eastern Conf., yes the Spurs have the best record in the NBA and yes the Heat have been in fire, no pun intended. But playoff hoops is...

Whose 2nd round picks? NE's Sure!!! DEAL! LOL

They were completely healthy? They were w/o Perk, who I believe made the honorable mention for all defensive team in 2009 - 2010 and with Granpa...

Bring back Brian Billick!!!

Yeah, that Jets unit is super combustible, and what is the over under of arrests after their 1st round game? LOL. Although they lead the league...

You don't know much if you are going to tell me that the Celtics play the same during the regular season as they do in the playoffs. They turn it...

Trade down, collect picks!!

Please thank the Raiders for giving NE their first rounder this year, that team really needs more young talent...sheeesh.

We are far away too, need a new running attack, O coordinator at least and probably new overall philosophy. The D is OK. I agree that we are...

Lmao!!!

I first read that as Hugh Jackman, now that would have been cool.

Thats at least 3-4 years away and your ownership is strong (I saw Kraft on the Apperntice, LOL). I think you will be OK for years to come....

I think its mostly him, not all him, come on now.

Yes, no way KC beats the Patriots, but I hope KC beats Baltimore, that would be cool. I do not have an issue with NE winning, this is Belichik's...

Celts are 12th but Perkins has not been there and Shaq plays what 15 min. per night. You do realize that playoff hoops is much different than...

Cassel didn't play in college at all really and he turned out OK. College is overrated!!! LOL I think Manning scares a lot of teams. But...

Curious what happens if Flacco plays for Miami and Henne for Baltimore? Maybe its not all Henne?

You sold me

Yeah, maybe taking Ingram and running the ball with play action mixed in is the better way to go?

Oh man! - 10. Redskins -- Cam Newton*, QB, Auburn Mike Shanahan loves mobile quarterbacks, like John Elway, Jake Plummer and Donovan McNabb. He...

LOL ~ Here are the grades as of today - for some reason it does not print as a table, sorry. A bit of an eye chart. PlayerPos.SchoolGrade1....

Just curious to see what he was rated as during the draft and thought maybe others were too?

I think Miami will have a tough time rebounding with the Celtics front line of Shaq, Jermaine and Perkins, who is due back in a month. Granted he...

New coach/coordinators/QB would solve a lot of issues. If we hire Cowher tomorrow, the entire perspective changes.

Harbaugh will be in SF more than likely. Cannot see him working for crazy old man Al.

His QB rating did improve to 75.3 from 63. He did throw more TDs than INTs, he was better but better than a very low starting level. His Comp % is...

Not true, my opinion directly impacts how the Dolphins play. Yes! LOL

Yep, that was excellent. I think more people dislike the Patriots than root for them. Cannot comment on the Colts. But both Patriots and Colts...

Until he outkicked his coverage and Edelman ran for a 90 yard TD! LOL

Tomato...tomaato, you know what I mean and bashing Cleveland is easy pickings. I am not a Heat fan but now only people in South Florida and...

Reasonable, but as I said in a different thread as long as BB and TB are in NE, we are all playing for 2nd. That Patriots team is loaded, young...

I like "85" but we need someone to throw the ball to him too! LOL And someone to run the ball, hopefully Brown is coming back but if not, WR is...

Melo was not born and raised in Denver though!! LeBorn is a high school star from the Cleveland area. He basically ran that team when he was...

You are correct of course, however, as we discussed before some Jets fans talk a lot of bravado for making the playoffs but lets be honest as...

True, but being only above average is not great either. Seattle made the playoffs too.

So you're happy with just going to the playoffs and not going to the SB or winning it all? Really? Be honest.

OK but I respected him with the Cavs and he never beat my Celtics so I have no grudge against him but the WAY he left was ridiculous.

Hold on they beat a Patriots team that also lost to Cleveland, you have to admit this is a different Patriots team now. We beat the Jets too. Yes,...

Cotchery and LT are good as well. Anyway, lets hope the Jets beat Indi and go into NE...that will be must see TV.

LOL ~ they have their hands full with Pitt, Balt and the Jets. And Indi. Sucks that we aren't relevant.

Orlando!! But I admitedly root for the Celtics. My dad is a Celtics fan and I grew up as such.

Then explain to me, how NYJ plans on A) beating Indi on the road and B) IF they win how they match up against a rested and motivated Patriots team...

Didn't Roethlisberger go 15-1 as a rookie? Come on, the Jets are where they are because of their D and LT running the ball so well early on.

Houston, the one that had the 32nd ranked pass D? Really? I prefer to watch the game at NE. I am not saying he is not better than Henne, but if he...

I agree, at this time he is not much more than a game manager. Lets see how he fares on Sunday.

Its the people who live in glass houses....thing

Lets see how he scores, not on the brain test but overall. Arm Strength, 40 speed, interviews, etc... I ask that everyone if available please...

This is why I love the Jets fans. You give Henne, Santonio Holmes, Cotchery and Braylon Edwards and see how does. Even with all those weapons the...

You can replace "Henne" with "Sanchez" in that sentence....and Miami with "New York".

I thought this thread would be blank...lol. You have two positives...Marshall and Bess, maybe Carpenter. Other than that its all well...bleh.

That was the Randy Moss Patriots not the new and improved, I have so many weapons I can sit three of them and still put up 38 on Miami. That...

Lets hire O'Brien from NE!

You have more playmakers, especially with those two corners. If you combined the very best Jets and Dolphins, would that team defeat NE?...

Phillies are loaded, have fun.

You did not "give" him to the Patriots but releasing him, well that did not help. Yes, you have Darrelle Revis and a better D. But Sanchize is...

LMAO, he is kind of average, but that was funny. Why not keep the picks and sign McNabb?

I marvel at how many awful GMs there are out there. Taking JaMarcus Russell #1, taking CJ Spiller #9, stuff like that.

I know I know, but with Marshall and Bess there he'd have better weapons than Santana Moss and Cooley? Am I reaching? LOL

Again thanks for releasing Woodhead and giving him to NE, really, thanks. Will you get spanked this week by Indi or next by a rested Patriots team...

Chiefs added some valuable pieces like Thomas Jones and Eric Berry. Plus Crennel is a proven D coordinator and lastly, Cassel, Bowe and Charles...

lmao!!!

ZERO chance the Panthers give up Luck, he is being touted as a true FRANCHISE QB and the NFL is a QB league now.

A better attitude!

Wow...ouch

I think its best to see what the offseason brings. The QB CANNOT be Henne. Let me reiterate. CANNOT BE HENNE. I think the D is OK, if we can just...

He hit it big last year with that CB and his TEs

Lets see how he scores I guess?

No, they did that to simulate an in game situation, where Brady goes out, hoyer is in and then Brady comes back in. It was planned ~ saw it...

Either he is a difference maker or he is not but if not we get really bad and get a really good pick in 2012. If he is then JACKPOT. At this point...

The more I think about it, the more I realize we are stuck in NFL mediocrity HELL. We are not bad enough to garner an awesome pick like Luck and...

He also won the JUCO NATL Championship, he has the requisite size and played in a big time program for a big time conference. I guess maturity...

He is not fat like Russell and he did not stumble on his 49 TDs this year, come on now.

He played a half + a bit more? Not like in 2007 when he played the entire game (although they were chasing records). NE is the most dominant...

Miami Dolphins: Our prediction is that Tony Sparano is gone, the victim of an underperforming offense and a new owner's need for a sexier name at...

Luck will be gone - probably to Carolina, if not there, then definitely Buffalo. AZ may take Mallet or Locker...depending on combine, tests,...

Ravens and Colts can beat them but no one in the NFC, I don't believe.

LMAO...that was good.

Its either that or grab McNabb? Not sure what other options there are? But the Patriots back up looked better than Henne yesterday

Spread...I guess, although I am not a football guru to really diagnose it. The OL is really good so the pass protection is superb generally and...

I am angry after the team folded but curious as to what management will do now. I'll be excited if the Fins add McNabb VJACK Gruden

Bills? LOL Well according to ESPN he is #29 now on the board, so likely it will not be the Fins. But I would not be shocked if he is stellar at...

No one said he sucked? And Newton was accurate in college, in a big time SEC program and he can run! Work Ethic? Well IDK about that...thats where...

Well hopefully management would perform their due dilligence before selecting him. But you have to agree he would create quite a buzz.

Mangini is available...LOL

Do they list the top candidates, please?

Agreed, he was not great but he did not "suck" and he definitely put people in the seats. And he was still young!

Ben Roethlisberger, last year at MIOH. 69.1 completion % 37 TDs, 10 INTs. 3 Rushing TDs.

How many draft picks would we have to give up to bring BB to Miami? LOL I think the 2004 team was excellent, Bill or no Bill. With Dillon,...

Vick 2000 college stats Comp % was 54. He threw for 8 TDs and ran for 8 TDs. Career Passing: 87 Cmp, 161 Att, 1234 Yds, 8 TD Career Rushing:...

Thats a very blanket and baseless statement.

White became very good in his 3rd year, typical for receivers?

Thanks Marine, I feel better, I thought their D was mostly Swiss Cheese when Cleveland ran all over them, I guess that was a fluke? Bleh, I have...

I think our operational definition of "suck" differs, Marine. His completion % was awful but his rushing numbers were outstanding. In his four...

He "Sucked"???? ~ the Falcons were in the playoffs consistently and were on MNF frequently and had a huge following. Vick's best WR was a TE. He...

Taylor was a marquee player (on D), and Ricky / Ronnie Brown were good as well. That Wild Cat was interesting for a while. But I agree, we have...

15, yes. Wonderlic scores for the NFL's projected starting quarterbacks: 1. Ryan Fitzpatrick 48 2. Alex Smith 40 3. Eli Manning 39 4. Matt...

Hopefully he lands as a coordinator somewhere (like Mike Nolin did). He won't be unemployed for long.

Imagine the score if NE was trying and all their starters played. It would be...well 45-3 like it was vs. the Jets. he he he

Unless they are flamboyant like Sanders, Polamalu, Lawrence Taylor or Ray Lewis. Rarely. Agreed. And we do not have any of those types either....

Tebow was below average on that test as well and he looks like a beast to bring down. Same for Vick, who scored poorly and Roethlisberger was not...

A fan base will follow an exciting team, can anyone name three exciting players on the current squad: Marshall...umm..Marshall...yes, Marshall....

I was being sarcastic on Dictator Mike, but my point was I would take anyone over Tony now after the team folded like a cheap beach chair against...

YES!!! Thank you, my thinking exactly!!!!

GOOD!! Gruden lives in Fla? Right? Hire him. Heck, I'll take Singletary over Tony. How much to get Harbaugh from Stanford?

Is it me or did NE's D look 10x better than our D on Sunday? Keep in mind they were resting people and we were not.

So you believe Tony is on par with Rex and BB? A new QB and new philosophy is what is needed.

Would Gruden really go to loserville aka...Cleveland over sunny Miami Florida? Please say it isn't so!

Holmgren wants his own guy in there. Plus not like Mangini has been stellar and he looks like a complete A hole?

Then how do we ever beat NYJ and NE?!?!?!?!? Are you seriously saying he is on par with Ryan and BB? Really? Get Gruden in here!!!!!!! Get...

Can we hire Denver's O coordinator? That team was terrible but put up mega pts. LOL

Can he bring Chris Johnson with him?

Are we really still defending a coach who lost to NE's 2nd and 3rd stringers? COME ON!!! NO, we need a change and ASAP. Hire Gruden!!!! I...

You mean "football"...LOL.. I love hoops actually, college and pro. But LeBron, I WILL NEVER root for him. NEVER!

No knocking him just saying he cannot be the greatest because he never won and its a SB league? Just my opinion. It is sad that he only got one...

If he wanted to donate $5MM to charity he can do that himself. He did that press conf. because he is a megalomaniac. Are you saying that the...

He had a press conference to announce he was leaving his home state and talked about himself in the 3rd person. Come on now, he is now more...

I will reiterate we were just dominated by NE's 2nd and 3rd stringers. I think the towel boy played in the fourth quarter and made a sack! We won...

So should we take our talents to that site? LeBron is such a tool.

45-3 was pretty humiliating as well.

A change is needed, we just lost to NE's 2nd stringers, come on now. Especially with persons like Cowher available. We are competing against two...

Guys, this is a silly argument. Brady is the best now and when he retires he will probably be the best ever. I watched some of those Americas Game...

I am biased and I'd love us to grab Newton, he is the next Steve Young, I tell you. SEC is as tough a conf. as they come. But if not that, grab...

Would signing McNabb be so bad?

You are out of your mind if you want to play the Patriots again. MWAHAHAHAHAHHAAH 45-3!!!! SICK!

Its on this board because we face NE this week. And I STRONGLY disagree with you. Let me say it again, STRONGLY disagree with you. We will not...

If you want to talk this season he has 34 TDs vs. 4 Ints this season and just set a record for most pass attempts w/o throwing an INT and name one...

Easy fix, sign McNabb and VJACK...line up would be sick!!! QB: McNabb RB: Brown WR: Marshall/Bess/VJACK

Getting in late on this but Brady got NE in the position to kick the GW field goal in the 2001 and 2003 Super Bowls, with little time on the...

Brady is the best player period, this season proves it. I cannot believe his numbers this year, throwing to a less than 100% Welker; Branch, who...

We paid all that money to Marshall, we need to get him a very good QB. Henne is not it.

I agree guys, NE has been there before and its Brady, etc... If Ryan/Sanchez will they would be unbearable.

Five? Montana, Bradshaw, Unitas, Steve Young...nope only four.

#1) Draft Cam Newton, definitely. It will create excitement and force the teams to defend both the run and the pass from the QB. #2) Sign...

Draft Cam Newton first, at WORST you create a buzz and he has the arm and legs to be very good. Then draft a Dexter McLuster (sp?) type player in...

The real problem is outside Ronnie Brown, how many "exciting" playmakers do we have? Marshall maybe, but he is more of a possession receiver....

True, who was on that team besides Moss? Nate Burleson was the #2 then, my bad.

He threw it long to Moss and Carter...not exactly super difficult with those weapons, LOL.

Pro Bowl, like the baseball all star game is an all representative team, not truly an All Star squad. PB in football is irrelevant.

We could have made a play for VJACK too. WR is not the problem here. Its the QB.

Moss, bleh, giving up Welker was a sad mistake.

If you don't like Henne then cut bait this yr. because there is a strong QB class coming out with Luck, Cam, Mallett and Locker. Otherwise build...

NE will have nothing to play for, we will be facing the mighty line up of Brian Hoyer, Taylor Price and Sammy Morris.

In this economy its sad for anyone to lose their job.

8...9...10...ready or not here I come

What exactly is it you believe?

Jets = 3rd best team in the AFC..................EAST

Philly will franchise him, agreed.

Bring back Ginn!!! Bring back Ginn!

There aren't any top backs coming out this year and Ingram is not a top NFL back, at least I do not believe so. Imagine Cam Newton on this team?...

Cam is the next Steve Young, the growing pains would be worth it...yeah, thats it.

If we can draft Cam Newton, we should!! Not that I am biased or anything...he he he

Technically its 2 games for NE, because they get the head to head advantage though? We can send them the reminder of what happened last year with...

Thank You!!!!!!!!!! :pointlol:

He'll light up Buffalo

They also cannot add: "I appreciate your points Murph, I think the fanbase is more disappointed by the fact that the Jets did not take advantage...

LMAO...excellent.

These are the same fans that talked trash that the Jets would come and crush the Dolphins after NE destroyed them. They are by far the most...

Zero respect for fatso Rexo, I recall last year at an MMA even he talked garbage about how the Jets would beat the Dolphins, eat it!