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Van i agree with you on Orton. I just don't see him as the answer that would ever be good enough to take down teams like the (revamped) Pats and...
It's a good point. I'm starting to think that VYs agent steered him away from here because of the coach/FO "turbulence" that could leave him on...
I think Devlin is the puny arm he's referring to. Who wants to bet that a year from now our new coach/FO is in discussions with Philly on whether...
Is this FO really about to botch this entire offseason? We missed our big RB targets, and now it's looking like we will be the team to strike out...
I'd love to see us get VY for less money than Orton and no draft pick. Question though: Now that we have Reggie, do we get the deed to the Rose...
Ya now is when things get moving. Team will talk with Vince, then either use him as leverage with Denver, or say Screw Orton and go with VY (or...
Daniel Thomas. But seriously, I'm feelin pretty disappointed about this FA season so far. Looks like it's all going down to the QB pickup..
See, my fear with Orton is that he's good and he'll be better than Henne for now, but will never be a "great" qb that can carry us to the SB. If...
Dude the YPC is almost a full yard better in the first 6 games. TD's are a result of the offense driving the field and getting near the goal line...
Fisher is a decent coach, but the second part of this is why he's so highly regarded...because his crazy owner kept him around for 17 years......
What do the defensive players have to do with anything? I'm talking about offensive support. Of course they're not gonna throw away their draft...
Oh, and another thing, everyone always thought Vince was a 2-3 year development "project" coming into the draft (unlike Leinart and Cutler), but...
Ya I posted this same article a while back. Been trying to say this for a while now. Whether Fisher "intentionally sabotaged" Vince or not, the...
I think Orton is a good player, and would be an upgrade from Henne, but I'm not sure he's the answer. He's getting a little older, and I just...
So i'm confused about one thing: I know free agency is supposed to start Saturday, but teams can start negotiating on Wednesday...Can they only...
Speaking of this, who says Vince can't win a championship against the pros??? He already won one in the Rose Bowl..
I never believe these stupid media rumors much. Just yesterday, about 2 hrs before the NBA draft, ESPN had a headline on their front page:...
Ummmm, sorry, but you're kinda contradicting yourself right there. Right after saying that you could see him winning a Super Bowl, you ask what is...
On a side note, anyone notice who's the 4th worst pass-blocking Center in that article? uh oh haha.. (I thought he was supposed to be good...
You know, I've always wondered why Guards/Centers are considered so much less valuable/important than tackles, especially when draft-time comes...
CK, the problem with this theory is that you aren't considering the circumstances of their snaps. I watched the Pitt game, and let me tell you how...
I'm not buying the yards per game argument--Just because the coach doesn't have him throwing doesn't mean the coach shouldn't have him throwing,...
Ck, you're entitled to your opinion but you gotta present fair facts. Just bc PFF starts in 08 doesn't make it a fair representation. 08 is the...
CK, the rest of your comments here were legit concerns (like the sample size--though i still disagree), but you gotta stop posting the above...
Bulger is the best option IF you want to be 7-9 for the next three years.. I'm not going to rehash all of my thoughts on VY (check the other...
59-0 actually. Collins was 2-12 for negtive-7 yards and 1 int. That loss took them to 0-6 on the year. you're right about the rest. Add Keith...
Ha, good call Padre, I totally forgot about that. Don't remember much about it, but I guess that kinda sets a precedent for what VY was going...
I still don't understand why people are so in love with Jeff Fisher. Can someone please tell me? hint: the answer is not because psycho Bud...
dj..I've thought about the same type of thing..it would be unstoppable with the right players. Imagine the Eagles with Vince and Vick (an actual...
No to Buger. I wouldn't take much stock in what Brown is saying about Palmer. Talk like this get reversed all the time, and if he blatantly...
Sidney Rice might be available... Otherwise I wouldn't let him go anywhere. Marshall is an elite WR in the right offense (ie not last years)....
Sorry CK, I'm just not buying your "significant snaps" method. First, why are you only looking at the last 3 years? I think that would be...
Unfortunately Padre, I think we're fighting a pointless battle here. As is the case with plenty of athletes and especially VY, there are people...
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Another thing people forget about Vince Young...the guy is CLUTCH. 7 4th quarter comebacks and 12 game winning drives in his short 5 year (really...
His trend is clearly up. QBR is obvious. YPA (one of my favorites) is also way up--8 ypa this year..very good. TD-INT trend is much better (10-3...
Desides--Have you watched the Titans lately?? I strongly doubt it. The Titans have looked 10 times better with VY in than "The Statue" Kerry...
"Lately a loser more than winner"?? 8-2 then 4-4. what kind of math is that? You're right, Vince hasn't played in a vacuum--he's played on BAD...
Haha, yeah I think I've made my view on him clear Padre. I guess I just feel like he got a really raw deal, and the guy does not deserve his...
Yep, agreed. Oh well, it's all a moot point until the lockout's over, and then we'll see what happens. At this point, all of these reports are...
Yep, another good article about what happened Padre, good find. Unfortunately, ESPN won't give you that side of the story (except Skip Bayless...
Haven't been here that long so I don't know much about what kind of talent Fisher has had, but off the top of my head, Moon, McNair, Eddie George,...
Just to add to Padre's points on that Redskins game, the game was VERY close (I think tied, or maybe Titans barely up) when Vince hurt his thumb...
Padre--I was saying I have had a neutral viewpoint, not the author. My bad on the mixup. Clearly the author supports Vince although it sounds like...
This guy truly explains the VY situation very well (disregard the Redskins stuff). Again, being close to all of this from a neutral viewpoint, I...
Wait, did you follow the "blowup" at all?? That was the whole reason for it. Every single news source knew that. Vince wanted to go back in and...
As a dolphin fan living in Tennessee, and having watched almost all of Vince's games, I can say WITHOUT DOUBT that he is our best option this...
Interesting you praise Ray Lewis, the same person who allegedly murdered a dude, in a thread bashing Vince Youngs (no criminal record) character...
Ya I don't think Orton will be a cheap trade for anyone..The thing is--The Broncos might think Tebow is the QB of their future, but even they know...
I don't understand why the two sides don't just keep talking/negotiating until they figure something out. Both sides have admitted that nothing...
I live in TN, and this article does as good a job as any at explaining Vince and what happened there. ESPN doesn't tell you this kind of stuff...
If they really want the wildcat, why don't they just sign Vince Young? Then defenses don't even know when it's coming..pretty much just the zone...
New article from PFF on QBs and the deep ball. Note who's #1 and then where Henne is.....
not so fast on the Seahawks "Suck for Luck" strategy. Lots of rumors about Palmer wanting to go there--both for a reunion with Carroll and bc his...
