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By we, you mean the Miami fans, right?

I'd hate to see the other sites you've been on.

Thanks for clearing that up for us. Now run down to Davie and turn in your resume' so we can get this ship headed in the right direction....

Thx man, and you're so right about Taylor. And OMG they played that stupid *** commercial during like every break in the 2nd half. Between that...

You're certainly entitled to your opinion. I just disagree. Tom Brady shredded the Super Bowl contending Chargers the same as he did us, and...

Don't tell me your a ball watcher :tantrum:? Nah, I am too so I keep the DVR handy.

Yes-yes-yes- the pass blocking was terrible, AGAIN. Carey and Columbo were awful, AGAIN. Columbo's "look out" block caused the INT, and he...

That's absurd. But he's certainly lost thephins.com.

Sounds more like the media has an "I don't know what else to write about" crisis.

Was the FO really trying to replace Henne or was the media OVER reporting the possibility of Henne being replaced? I mean, we had supposedly...

Read carefully, I said "not necessarily". I totally agree w/ the bolded statement. And most of the Henne bashers and Mallet/Orton/Dalton/McNabb...

You don't have to be a member to read the threads, and they're are all archived for viewing at anytime :wink2:.

Not necessarily. You only need to see a few of them to get the general idea. A few guys said that Henne was never put in a situation where he...

It was a Henne war. ToddPhins, Mr Clean, DJ, KillerP, GMJ, & few others vs the entire board, basically. Todd & GM deserve aqua hearts for being...

Gronkowski, Welker and Hernandez are better at ripping our defense than Ross.

Benny Sapp isnt the problem. Welker catches 100 balls every season for a reason. The problem was Reshad Jones being lost, our outside CBs being...

Excellent points. Did Solia, Langford, Odrick or McDaniel suit up tonight? I know Starks was there b/c he was offsides twice but other than that?...

Brady is good, but he aint that damn good. We failed to pressure him, stop the run, or disrupt the Pats offense in any way. In short, we were a...

Good points. Luck for us we the Pats don't have a top tier pass rusher but in Week 2 we'll have to deal with Mario Williams. The Browns, Chargers...

Are the fantasy football stats any more accurate?

We don't exactly have an All-Pro at RT either. The difference is that we have a guy who can capitalize on the weakness and the Patsies don't.

Yeah he's soft but it takes more than one missed tackle to make a 52 yard run happen. Bell whiffed on the play, Wake looked like he was out for a...

Good stuff. I think Daboll will do a lot of that kind of thing this year. Clay lined up at WR several times during the preseason, I suspect we'll...

How about, there was a better QB on the bench behind him? A QB that had led the team to the division title before losing his job due to injury....

Or D, his backup is Chad Pennington. The guy that most of the locker room wanted to play for from the beginning.

Did I read that right, a plus 28 TO ratio? I'm surprised they lost any games at all.

Couldn't agree more on Sean Smith's softness. I'm worried that teams are going to attack him in the run game now that he's on the left side. I'm...

None of us "know" why Henne was benched. But there's no harm in pretending to know, I guess.

It's a sign, among many others, that Henne is earning the respect and confidence of his teammates, something that IMO he failed to do in his first...

You gotta beat the man to BE the MAN!!!

How could that be? I heard he was the best passer in the whole draft!

If you're trading for a QB who makes 8-10 million like a Palmer or Orton they instantly become the starter. Either that, or Ireland can explain to...

Yeah. Most of the Henne bashers seem to have evaporated, and the Ryan Mallett bandwagon is damn near empty.

I see what you did there. [IMG]

Nah but they'd trade Malcolm Jenkins for Vontae Davis in a heartbeat, Mr. Hindsight.

The perception-reality gap has a lot to do w/ the laser like focus on Chad Henne and the offense. Actually, the team was built around the...

Fair point on KC, especially on the road. I just don't think they can hack it vs the better defenses in the league.

THIS. I'm praying we see a ton of cover 2 again this year.

Matchup wise you can go ahead and chalk up Cleveland, Oakland, Denver, Kansas City & Washington as W's IMO. Teams that rely on the running game to...

When they have better players already on the roster. I don't know if Spitler is better, but the FO seems to think so. It's not like either guy was...

10th sounds about right, but I don't think the AFC will be as top heavy as it looks on paper. 10 wins should do it.

Yeah. Vegas would have to make the line 9 or 10 to get equal action, I think they'd rather root for the Fins than do that tho.

A ridiculous spread.

We don't have a #3 QB.

I'd make a play for whoever Jacksonville is playing this weekend. I'll be surprised if the Jags players even get off of the bus for the first few...

Calling Waters a Pro Bowler is a major stretch, Columbo's a "Pro Bowler" as well. The Pats cut Meriweather, Sanders, Tate & Banta Cain, among...

Fine by me. I'd rather go into the season underrated than overrated.

Edds or Spitler? IMO neither guy is going to play anything other than specials. Edds was brought in to be the nickel LB b/c Crowder sucked....

It's a yearly ritual, last season it was Charles Grant and Marques Douglas.

Whether its 6.5, 7, or 7.5 the lines are still inflated. I agree w. Volin (for a change): "...this is actually a tricky game for the Patriots,...

If the majority of bets are coming in on NE why move the line to 6.5? Trying not to be overly cynical here :lol:.

If Vontae and Sean can control their guys 1 on 1 then our backs and safeties can zero in on those guys. That, and can we pressure Brady w/o having...

We collect guys who can play at all these different spots and yet we lack guys who can just excel at one position.

That's the number I saw posted at Sportsbook this morning. Joe Public is all over NE, if the line isn't moving could it be that the sharps are...

Divisional matchup, Week 1, primetime, etc, we all saw what happened last year but that's the exception not the rule, home dogs usually perform...

I don't see why. When I watch those two I'm thrilled :shifty:.

Awww, look everyone it's a rejuvenated Chad Henne!!! Doesn't he look good?

We're the biggest underdog in the entire NFL this week. The Vikes are 9 point dogs at San Diego. At home, on Monday night of Week 1, with the...

I agree. Yet the Dolphins are 7 point underdogs at home. Not a whole lot of R-E-S-P-E-C-T.

Agreed. I don't think their pass rush will be much of a factor. I'm guessing that Henne will see a lot of 3-4 man rushes with soft, zone type...

There's going to be a wake up call, but not for the Dolphins. For the Patriots and the rest of the people who aren't giving us a chance in this game.

How does demanding henne be replaced equate with wanting him to succeed? Henne critics show no respect for the process of developing a qb into a...

Aside from two world series the marlins never win. The medias job is to promote the game, to create davids and goliaths. That's what they do. It...

DPR doesn't understand the difference between a 10 yd completion on 1st and 10 and a similar completion on 3rd and 15. It doesn't know if an int...

I haven't caught much of their games, do you think its an effort (preseason) thing or a real issue? I can't imagine a Jets D that isn't a ***** to...

Ryan and Flacco both had significant improvements from year 2 to year 3. IMO year 2 is usually a bad one b/c defenses catch on to a QBs strengths...

If Henne gets marginally better we'll see no parts of 8-8. I know its fun to go in on Henne for 20 pages at a time but it'll be the defense that...

Good points. We'll actually have 6 upgrades on Monday Night vs the Pats that we didnt have the last time we played them. -Carpenter out Burnett...

I see what you're saying, but I think you're selling the team short. We may not have an elite rusher opposite Wake, but outside of Pittsburgh and...

I dunno man. Looked like the Savant was playing a man short the two times that Henne torched his *** in 09 and 2010.

Wait, are we talking about Peyton, or Henne? :shifty:

Cant really argue with that.

He should've just brought a bottle of Henny to the game.

Clay's got a hammy issue, Murtha I'm not sure. Sparano confirmed they were being held out for injuries, neither practiced this week.

Gibril Wilson.

I agree. 8-10 carries, 5-8 receptions = 13-18 touches, that's a good number for him. Not b/c I fear he'll get injured, more b/c IMO that's the...

Murtha and Clay have minor issues. Jake was held out for precautionary reasons I was told. Other than that we're heading into the season healthy....

Sounds like he's arguing that their defense was better LAST YEAR. Tell him to keep living in the past b/c the future looks pretty dim for the Jests.

Not much to it, Murtha and Clay are nursing injuries. They haven't practiced since last week. If Columbo struggles then I definitely think we'll...

In addition to that, he also cleared the entire sideline out for Hartline to make a couple decent catches from the slot early in the game. Teams...

Aren't the Fins a sponsor for Tobacco Free Florida? So why is Henne chewing a dip? SMH...

Peyton's HC didnt seem terribly impressed. Nor did he seem as inclined to make excuses for Manning's poor play. I guess that's why he got fired....

You should've seen him in the Divisional game vs Green Bay last year. Dimitroff sure did, and he sold his soul to acquire Julio Jones to HELP HIS...

Correction. If Henne made that throw the DB would have caught it and returned it for a TD, and the thread would be 12 pages long by now.

Is there a level of pleasure in seeing most of the Henne haters backpedal faster than a DB facing Clyde Gates? You betcha. Funny part is, all it...

I'm lovin the Win-O-Meter. Put me down for 11-5.

11 days till we SHOCK the world. That's all I got to say.

All good points. But rest assured, we were not using our REAL goal line plays in those spots, and why would we? No fades to Marshall, no post up...

We're installing new offense on the fly, with rookies at RB, WR, TE and C. It's ridiculous to think there wouldn't be some hiccups in the early...

1400 = 87 yds per game. I don't see why anyone would "highly doubt" that we can't have a running game that's at least as awful as last year's.

Excellent job with the presentation Em. Fasano's celebration at Green Bay last year was a classic.

I'm scrambling for a napkin b/c I just spit water all over my keyboard. Very funny post.

Henne is ranked 26th. And I won't bother trying to explain how ridiculous Clayton's rankings are.

Fans annoy me in general. Especially the ones who don't know what the **** they're talkin about.Henne got a raw deal last year and it was...

Varying levels of motivation and gameplanning would be first on my list. Some teams are sitting starters or installing new systems, some are...

I thought Daboll did a good job of recognizing that tampas front was wreaking havoc and adjusting his play calls accordingly. He went to the quick...

I can't say they're the best but they are def top 5, and probably the best young tandem around. I like the mix of skillsets, smith to take the...

Excellent.

If the Patriots blitz they'll be opening themselves up to some very unfavorable matchups. Bess, Marshall and Bush are all capable of beating...

Take the points and run. Before they come to their senses.