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The senario you just put forth is impossible. You can't win an over time game by 1 point.

How many picks do you think you'll get for RB? He is our best offensive weapon we won't be trading him period. Closet RB hater?

NO WAY! It's been stated over and over he isn't a Parcells type qb! (note sarcasm)

Adam can you HONESTLY tell me 4 games is enough to say Beck doesn't have those qualities after 4 games. If you think you can you're lying to...

I'm sure it has nothing to do with overall supporting casts! Farve was a back up in Atlanta before Greenbay traded for him. We have no idea what...

More importantly what does it tell you about Quinn? If Anderson is signed to long term contract that tells me that Anderson is clearly better....

That's because your eyes are closed!

John Beck has no questions when it comes to arm strength and Phil Simms was the same size and I don't think anyone would say he had a huge arm....

I think we can all say we don't know what they think. We know Ireland was high on Beck before the draft last year, but now he thinks he's too old?...

Hmmm .........where did you get that figure?

Would you PLEASE elaborate how you decided on 8 wins. What improvements do see to justify a 7 win improvement. I presume you prediction is based...

I conceed :up:

A smokescreen to conceal what from whom, and for what purpose?

We don't have much talent that much is true but that doesn't mean Cameron was a good coach. He made many questionable decisions. If Parcells...

Well since we haven't won a championship since 73 and haven't been in the playoffs in 6 years. Obviously retooling isn't working. In fact we are...

If won't have enought time to throw the long ball with our lack of protection. DID YOU SEE THE GEORGIA GAME?

So we should to replace them after they retire? They are great beloved players but if we intend to win championships we need to replace them now....

I think you misunderstood me I completely agree with everything you just said!

Those may be your needs but not the teams! :lol:

We need run defense. I'm amased so many people are ready to give up on Beck. If we can't stop the run our Qb will never see the field. IF we darft...

I suspect that's what you want. Taylor would be gone in a second. He wants to win. Don't underplay the value of a championship. That's why you...

Wait until Monday night when we see him healthy.

It sounds like your the one in love with Matt Ryan. When Parcells drafted Bledsoe the Patriots hadn't drafted a qb in the second round the year...

I doubt he has the nads to actully pay up. He'll probably create a new screen name.

As if he has the capacity to do that! He's been out of football for a year, and was replaced by a rookie. No thanks!

The problem is too many uninformed fans expect a qb to come in and fix our problems on offense. In truth we need to fix our offense before any qb...

Stats dont tell the whole story. Yes his stats may be comparable. Zach is solid and consistant but he isn't and never has been feared. He is...

Somebody should be challenging his authority have you been watching us play all season? I'm tired of hearing about the injuries. The Bengals had...

Being a Florida fan. I will say Henne did look good yesterday, but we didn't give him much pressure either. You really like to see how a qb reacts...

You are being hypocritical. Brennan struggles because it's because he has no protection and yet Beck struggles with no protection and he needs...

We finished 1 and 15 and you guys are already talking about us beating the Patriots. The first thing we need to do is stop beating ourselves.

He has a better arm than Brees. You simply cant assume ANYTHING in 4 games on THIS team. I'm quite certain you didn't watch every game Brees...

If that's what you think then go be a Ravens fan. It is amazing to me so many people discredit the fact ou offense was the worst offense in...

Warner's old *** would have been killed behind our line. He's a decent qb but our supporting cast isn't good enough. The problem is Cam tried to...

Have you seen Trent Edwards stats the last 2 weeks. Our entire team is HORRIBLE. Do you HONESTLY think any of those guys YOU like would have had...

I'll make a little bet with you. If we draft a qb early rounds 1 or 2 I will never post again. But if we dont draft one you never post again.

You never change that guys mind. Anyone who expects rookies not to struggle especially on this team is a inappropriate comment Let's compare...

You have no idea if Parcels was impressed or not. The fumble all be it was a boneheaded play but easily corrected with reps. After his second...

How did he do in those BIG games? I can't remember!

Sounds like the old Brady Quinn argument. We arent draftng him so I don't know why we bother wasting time on what he is or isn't.

I agree they can grind it out on the ground and play good D.

Are you making this up? He is 11th rated kick returner in the AFC. The Miami Dolphins are 29th in the NFL. HE has great potential but I haven't...

Watch the Sugarbowl and you'll see a healthy Dorsey. You may change your mind. It's not a sexy pick . Fans don't always get what is best for a...

When it comes to processing information on the football field he is. He has better than great athleticism but if he can't react in a sufficient...

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I'm sorry you're right. He might make a great golfer but the in NFL if you can't process information in a hurry it doesn't bode well. If you can...

Actually in the NFL the has been a huge shift in dfrafting philosphy. Teams are now looking for smaller, slower, and less physically talented...

The question you have to ask yourself did he make those teams better. BTW that Cowboy team who is the 1st seed is a team he built. I think he just...

I think they are both gone. After a season like this where we got perpetually worse every week. Cam doens't know what he's doing out there. He's...

That's why he hires his guys. If soemone comes here and doesn't want to be held accountable then we don't want them here. I don't think Parcells...

No qb will have success here if we don't fix what's really wrong here. NO protection NO playmakers, and because of injury NO running threat. All...

The average NFL career is only 6 six years. He simply isn't smart enough. He's is a box of rocks. He'll never understand his assignments. When...

We are going 1-15 and we are this bad. If we were completely healthy it might add up to 1 maybe 2 more wins. He trashes Lemon because he is our...

Brees was injured in that situation

Remember the Monday Night Meltdown against the Jets. They are assuring that doesn't happen. If you keep scoring the other team can't win. If we...

Explain to me what is a bigger play than a TD. Well if our receivers aren't smart and can't get open. Lemon should recognize that and run it in...

He will all offseason and preseason to do that. We don't know right now. There are essentail things a young qb must have to lean on to have...

Cry me a river. Like I said "stop them". They still got to win 4 more games they'll be playing teams like indy, jax, and sd. They haven't won...

They aren't selfish. If you don't like them scoring points then stop them. After all isn't that defense's job. They are an awesome team and I hate...

Lemon isn't bad but he's already been in the league for 4 years. He upside is what you see. I don't dislike Lemon he does give us the best chance...

Ofcourse to get more picks

Ok so they're both mobile.......end of similarities!!!!

I bet you're wrong!!!!

Parcells already said he isn't trading away any picks!!!

And Rookies never make mistakes. You put a guy who is rookie in the worst offense in the NFL and give him zero protection and the all the...

Firstly, NO. Second he has already stated he is not trading for a QB. 3rd Brady Quinn has never played an NFL down. I don't get the man love for...

It's that kind of thinking that leaves people really disappointed. I don't know if you've been paying attention we are about to be 1-15, and yes...

What he meant to say is "Cleo gives me the best chance to keep my job"

Draft day you'll see. We all know how he thinks having coached 2 division rivals.

AS fans we have no say in who we draft. I garauntee you the we aren't drafting a qb in the first 4 rounds. Some people are clueless!

Competition is good ofcourse. But it's counter productitive with 2 young cbs probably slowing down their develpoement if not ruining it. There is...

We were mediocre with Marino. At best a 5th seed playoff team and no real threat to win anything. We need a complete football team. If we had...

The only thing that does is divide a locker room. I think it's a better idea to improve the running game and get a real TE, WR, and keep the...

Dude my point is we have no idea Beck can or can't do. We have no consistant receivers,te, and inconsistant at best pass blocking. Tom Brady...

That is by far the dumbest answer I've heard. If their is a trivia question it would be who the Patriots beat to cap off a peffect season or who...

Come draft day we'll see there are any qb taken in the first 4 rounds for the Dolphins. I think that will settle the argument. :thumbup:

How does finding the endzone not translate into more wins. We all know atleast of those who know what we're talking about is Beck is going to get...

You mean the Trent Edwards that was 9-26 with 3 picks or Troy Smith for the Ravens who scored 6 points yesterday. We can even add Jamarcus Russell...

What exactly are your credentails when it comes to evaluating qb potential. This team is way beyond having a qb problem. The whole team is so...

You may not have been home, but were you living under a rock. This crap has been all over ESPN and the news papers. This team is an absolute...

Yea right! If Dalls goes to the big dance in the next 2 years Wade isn't going to get fired or quit!

We are one of the worst teams in NFL history. Firstly that Tampa team was a new franchise in it's first season. We will end up 1-15. I don't care...

When your defense gives up 4 - 6 tds a game any return man would put up similar numbers not really an accomplishment.

People would rather lower their expectations than admit he wasn't a good pick at that draft position. He may end up being a good player,...

Cleveland has no first because they gave it Dallas to get Lady Quinn.

I am as optomistic a person as you'll find but I won't let it lower my IQ. I guess the odds makers are pessemist too or they just have access to...

I think the Cowboys interest in McFadden is way over inflated. I think they are really happy with Barber. He's averaging 4.9 yards are carry....

No Braylon Edwards caught some freak Stapht infection that had to sit out from. Edwards is much bigger than Ginn. I'll Ginn a little more time to...

You know I had a similar dream about a week ago we had a big lead in 3qtr 31-14 but that's as far as I made it. But I also had a dream I was...

O Yee little do you know about this game we call football. Comparing this year to last year is comparing apples to oranges. This Patriots team...

You need a consultant. I'll tell you what I'll offer you my services for say $500 dollars. My advice is don't bet and I promise you I'll save you...

What he said!

We would be better off having the 4th pick. We will still get who we want and not have to pay 1st pick money.

What you need to ask yourself what is more likely? I'd love to see us win this week, but I think we'll be lucky to beat the spread. We can't stop...

If Booker doesn't play we don't win. He made a lot of clutch plays on Sunday for us. He will be a great 3 down back. He is too small to be an...

Ideally I would like to see us trade down if not I'd take Dorsey. I'm not opposed to taking Mcfadden if you could trade Ronnie. But no one is...

If you are a fan and you weren't already discouraged by the season I don't think anything can discourage you. As bad this season has been I still...

They are both great players. No one is arguing that. We aren't going to win any championships with them. Keeping them would almost be cruel and...

You are really reaching. Even if we were completely healthy we were no better than last year's 6-10. I've got the NFL package and I've watched...

No, the problem is you don't want us to have another second for JT. He is definately worth it. 10+ sacks in last 5 seasons. A team like the Colts...

Why in the world why JT want to stay and play here. This team gives him zero chance at a Superbowl. He deserves that. BTW JT's numbers are still...

Thank you. Finally someone who can read and comprehend written language!!!

Go troll your own message board. I dont any desire to go to Jets message board and hang with a bunch Jets. Go away!

I never said no free agents. I just don't want to designate too much money to one player where if could be spent on several needs.

I support this team I've watched every miserable second this season. I hope we do win but I wouldn't bet on it. Just because you support your team...

We are going 0-16 and the Patriots are going 19-0 and no one will talk about the undefeated Dolphins ever again. Then our franchise will have...

I was going to wait to post until finheaven was back up but this post is just too tempting. Beck is a bust already, that's more than funny....