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Those QBs left because they weren't that good or panning out...Tua would be in the no guarantee range...Watson, not so much.
It won't. It's rebuilt next year if we get some decent offensive wrs through draft and FA and bring watson in, we are contenders right then and there.
Sucks for them that Watson has a no trade clause. They can't just go for the highest bidder.
But Allen had all the physical tools. Once he got his mechanics and mind right, sky was the limit because he grew into his physical ability. Tua...
And you'll be crying for the next few years, with the rest of us.
The eye test says Tua was not impressive, the commentator eyes test says Tua was not impressive, and now the players are saying Tua wasn't...
Haha. And def agree with you man. I love Flo. And think he is the future for sure.
"No QB". That right there is a huge issue and reason for people not be feeling great about this season. And again, no one is saying that if we...
What game, and how they lose, does matter though. This was an important game...really important, and the last one, and our guys didn't just lose,...
Agreed. Seems more to me like Flores/Grier are the type who got Rosen. Not bc they were sure he was going to be amazing, but bc they want legit...
Seems more like some of you are making excuses for the present, and wishfully thinking about the future. I think really what people mean when they...
One person's view, which is panning out pretty well as of now.
Exactly, Tua was supposed to be a generational talent who would transform the franchise. Now he's a run-of-the-mill rookie who needs time to...
It looked to me that all of the issues Tua had, as shown in the video, are persisting now though.
To be clear - I didn't post this as a shoulda, woulda coulda. I posted this to highlight that Tua did always have the deficiencies we are seeing...
I know this guy is nobody important, but watch the whole video....is anything he's saying inaccurate? It sucks, but if you're a true Miami...
It is pretty sad. I don't get some of the "norms" with the NFL. Tua clearly may not be the answer, and honestly probably isn't. Yet, they may very...
One game, and one QB away.
Maybe logic isn't your strong suit, so you can't make sense of it and it just appears blurry, confusing, and "silly". . . Kind of like Tua, when...
Don't play games. We are basing it on all the hype, which resulted in him going #5 overall. Tua has not lived up to it even a little bit, while...
Chambers was pretty damn good. And you say Fiedler wasn't an elite passer? I agree. Neither is Tua.
This is a great post, and also kind of magnifies another point some people seem to be missing here - good and great QBs also elevate the talent...
Completely valid opinion, although we disagree strategy-wise. You make a good point insofar as, we will get a lesser pick for Tua if he loses a...
You are still not saying what Tua DID show, or DOES show that makes you believe he is the answer...you are just giving reason after reason of why...
Well said. Not trying to be a jerk to people, but they aren't advancing actual arguments as to why they blindly believe something.
So then, if not lying to themselves, what basis do they have to disagree? What have they seen to show me that they aren't lying to themselves?...
Why are some actively rooting to double down on Tua after this season? Other than just blind fan loyalty and optimism...what from this season are...
No one is saying to give up....but it's just as much a silly move to act as if Tua is still a sure thing after such an unimpressive debut. Maybe...
Face it - anyone acting as if they are fully confident in Tua is flat out lying to themselves. He was supposed to be a transformative,...
I'm not a fanboy if Tanne or anything, but man I dislike Ross. Mando had reported back before the end of his last season that Ross had decided...
That's much less likely to happen though. Without a QB, you are dead in the water, and while Tua might still pan out, he hasn't shown anything...
Hi all, Haven't posted in a very long time. But with the season ending today, I got the itch. With the #3 pick, would it be prudent to take the...
Plenty of time left. This thing might go to OT if Texans don't outright win it.
Refs just negated another TN touchdown. Another ridiculous call. But Tanne just scored.
Wow refs just negated a titans TD. Terrible call.
Can't make it up. None of us should be surprised, given the ending of the season for the last 20 years, but we were so duped by a fun season this...
I tried to pretend and ignore this too lol. The players did their best to pay lip service in pressers, etc. But they definitely like Fitz better....
To be fair, it works both ways too though....good QB play is going to elevate WRs as much as good WR play is going to elevate the QB.
Exactly. This was a team loss, yes. But, anyone who watched the game start to finish realizes that our piss poor offense is where the rot started....
I wanted to believe so badly that Ross, and his ineptitude, were finally going to take a backseat, and that he truly was going to let Grier run...
Stills being better or equal to Wallace is flat comical. At this point it seems the board is divided into 2 camps: 1)objective fans and...
Chicken or the egg. I think at this point of the calendar year, fans just wanna rally behind their team. Whoever is gone, sucked, whoever came in...
Why are some so convinced we make the playoffs or its bust for failbin? I mean I know that's what it is - but looking at this team objectively,...
This team is obviously being gutted and re-faahioned in tannenbaum's image. I have made it known I am not a fan of his. We will see who is right...
I don't get all the celebrations. We added Suh. Cool. But other than that everyone is just celebrating getting rid of people. How does that equate...
We now can be the offseason champs.
And the tannanbaum era has begun in Miami! We are the new New York Jets. Spend all our money on the "big splash" FA and be the offseason champions...
Again, evidence of our pathetic franchise. Fans pop champagne when we lose a guy that has been a huge contributor for 6 years. Not when we...
My heart isn't in this team or season, and I don't have to watch my friends get canned and work for a guy I can't stand every morning. I don't...
I come here about once a day now for two reasons: 1) to see if we actually fired could or if any trade or personnel rumors are brewing and,...
I also think people are optimistic w the 5 years. Until Ross is not the owner, we will be a bad team.
If people predict next year, they are totally ignoring the black hole void we have at HC. Next year is out. Maybe 2016 though.
We prob could have had him I would guess. Too bad our owner is a moron. I actually hope they kick our *** next year. Send Failbin off, and maybe...
Reading this thread makes me realize why it is that Ross thinks he can abuse the fans of this team and desecrate and discard the history if this...
Adding Rex would be a good idea, so that won't happen
Am I "not a true fan" if I kind of don't even care anymore, and am now actually losing interest in the Dolphins? I mean, is this really the...
As to the people talking about how great ross's financial improvements have been - I say you are right but who cares? Those saying he cares more...
The fact we are dreaming of Rex to be DC just to replace failbin eventually is a fail itself. Could easily can philbin and hire rex. God I...
We don't need a rebuild, just a coach. Next season after the epic collapse of the entire team, we will be back to 2007 with a coach and gm who...
People should stop with this already. Harbaugh was never coming to the Dolphins. He did not want to last time and does not now. This wasn't some...
I swear to god some of you are just in denial BC it hurts to embrace the reality that we are going down in flames lol. If you don't believe my...
Julius Caesar had hubris as does Philbin. It is not always the supposed subordinate that is going beyond their britches. A leader who does not...
Lmao Ralph. That had me rolling. On a serious note though, I don't think the benching helped, as a poster above said. If this was a respected...
Exactly. And whether the players "misunderstand" or whatever philbin apologists want to say, is actually irrelevant. What matters is how the...
I been living in reality, you've been one of the few posters pushing a very clear agenda for a few weeks now.
Haha. Yeah. Taking out the trash with dansby and vontae. Finnegan did great today as did wilson a d RJ Stanford this month the hahah. Trusknick...
No one is talking about being cheerful. But they didn't lose as a team, they went out yelling at coaches and sitting on the bench and then saying...
This is why this guy will always be a loser. (Philbin) and now he is making his players losers too. No way philbin calls that fake punt that Rex...
The jets didn't think so. They had a good football coach. That's why.
The situation with Wallace is not just about him and his attitude. According to this article, it seems there was yet another heated exchange and...
Pretty sure I made the point that scheme forced the ball to Wallace this year. Idk about any "outplayed" type stuff but this is the dolphins -...
Heart vs no heart. Wallace has been showboating worrying about 1 handed catches the last few weeks, these guys actually played football today....
Anyone still so excited about our awesome win against the vikings last week?? Hahaha! I wonder if Ross is. This team is a joke and is...
Team sucks. Here is the typical 50 yard fg miss followed by an opponent TD. What a joke.
Progress? We may very well end up 8-8 again.
F this team, and F these pathetic refs. We've been hosed a lot this year.
Hyde is spot on and it is not disputable. Fans defending phailbin or this failed season are part of the problem and love mediocrity. I'm sick of...
Hahah oh boy, you know what? Thanks for reminding me that this clown gave up a division-rival home game next year and put it in London! Thanks....
agree, and I must say I'm worried about a 2011 repeat. It seems that whenever these types of situations happen, the emotion and belief just isn't...
LOL, man are you late to the party. There was an uptick in attendance when the team was relevant about mid-way through the year. Then we got our...
drama queen? were you talking about me? I am aware its "ross's team" its also a product, and I agree with the above poster. As for this thread - i...
ahhh yes, The man who invented the Orange Carpet and the "fins to the left!!". Always trying to "get fans in the seats". I def. trust him. Balls...
Hyde says it great. Although, i think Ross gets off however he wants with no consequences....
Whats hope? is it the same as realizing, when you really think about it, that you basically view the chances of your team winning, or being in the...
He will be fired i say around week 10 next season. After we are one of the worst teams in the NFL.
BC we get the best of both worlds : No cursing, gum chewing, untied laces, or candy wrappers, We win games against BAD TEAMS. . . PLUS! When...
WHY ARE WE DEBATING IF PHILBIN IS A DECENT COACH?!?!?!?!??! You guys act like this team is fresh off of a 0-16 year, and we have no qb, no...
He believes in this coach, b/c this is his BAD hire. He liked philbin and it was his call to get him instead of mccoy (hmm hows he doing these...
people can talk all they want about stability and etc. The fact is philbin does not have what it takes to be a winning coach or a leader of men....
we are not getting a new DC. Failbin refuses to fire his cornies. He had to be bullied into firing sherman. Get used to 8-8 friend.
Welp, Theres my bonus!!!! WOOOOOOOO!!!! Great Win Boys! yayyy!!
hahahaha. I warned everyone. Enjoy your great win "true fans" hahaha!!!
building something great???? hahaha hey bozo the friggen clown - we just barely beat the vikings! we got our *** kicked the last 2 weeks, we...
Earlier in this thread i said " You've been Warned". Now lets watched Rex Ryan, Harbaugh, and every other candidate get scooped up, and we can...
Why didn't they play for him and back him up the last 2 weeks when it matter then?!?!?! I dont get this way of thinking. i just do not. I HATE...
Told you all. This pointless, sloppy, crappy, win kept failbin. Ross was just waiting for an excuse. Hahahahahahahaha i hate this team.
Yes, they respect philbin and want him back - cool. They should have won at least 1/2 of the games that meant something. But they didn't. so what...
Tough to enjoy it, when after the dust settles and the "heckuva job" speech is over, you realize and have to deal with the harsh reality that...
Wow. This escrement of a game saves this crap coach. I'm more upset than happy. Team can't lose when it needs to and can't win when it needs to....
Heckuva job
I hate Failbin. The fact that instead of rooting for my team with playoff seed standing at stake, I need to hope for a loss so we can have a...
This is absurd. Playing Minny down to the wire to preserve our mediocrity.
Exactly vertical. That's why I'm pissed. Why bring it out when it means nothing? Just to ecrew us with another mediocre season. Just end the...
Win win here. Philbin needs to go. Tanney is not the problem. Get him a real coach. I'm eyeing Rex.
Maybe I spoke to soon. Wow. If i t gets philbin canned I'm fine w it. Not really...this sucks if we lose too.
I'm happy w the stat padding and etc. But reports are Failbin stays w 2 meaningless wins. That's a disgrace.
Nothing. Oh yeah, another mediocre non-playoff season. Philbin back for another 8-8 year next year as a bonus! Who cares. F Ross.
Going toe to toe with the vikings at home. Possible comeback victory in the balance. . . No playoffs again. Maybe a 9-7, but maybe an awesome...
I'm checking out now. But you have been warned...
See! This is why we need to lose! People don't seem to get it. Winning against the vikes and jets at home is nothing to brag about yet Ross is a...
As I said calm down. They r not playing for Philbin. You should be thankful. This tells Ross to get rid of him. This is the right move. The...
This thread is funny. Do you guys really think the team is trying?? They want Failbin out and they know seasons over. Stop acting like they...
I'm not excited at all. I didn't watch last week, wound up checking the score on my phone. At halftime I was regretting my decision, but by the...
LoL yeah Ross is using Michigan, who he donates unthinkable amounts of money to, who he has been supporting for years, as a covert plot to get...
Meh. . . everyone is always saying how this team is like groundhogs day, well here it is. Crappy season followed by hiring some huge name guy...
Maybe you are too young to realize nothings changed w the new uniforms. All around nutty OP
DOUBLE RAINBOWWW Drinkin outta cups being a *****.
Understood, but I asked you to clarify your initial statement, and I still see nothing like bullygate w Rex, even for those ppl who wer e...
Yawn. Philbin is the "good guy" the "image guy" the "professional" but bullygate happened on his watch while he was looking for gum wrappers. But,...
This whole line of thinking is nonsense. The whole "such and such player aucks BC he shows no effort and Ireland drafted guys who show no...
I don't get it?
Rex is my first choice. I would be very enthusiastic from day 1 and excited w him at the helm. Really hoping it happens. He already hates the pats...
And don't forget that Jason Taylor was supposed to be on some advisors council too. He liked playing for Rex.
FWIW, Armando has been the only guy reporting this all month now. He has been acting as if Ross has zero'd in on Harbaugh and its already in the...
Yeah, It was pretty interesting, I started having some bad doubts that week, b/c in his presser Philbin literally said "well i kinda just showed...
This. This. This. and those are the only 2 i even want to look at. I like Bowles too, but Ross is the moron who passed on him for this clown in...
Yup. And its not talent, its coaching.
1) they were always the laughing stock of the NFL 2) He got to the AFC championship game twice with friggen mark sanchez. 3) If you know...
this.
or, we kicked the hell out of them with the coordinators gameplanning themselves, and the players having a good week of practice, with either joe...
Yeah, so basically you are assuming that Harbaugh is as good a talent scout as he is a HC, that is where we totally disagree. As i said, Harbaugh...
San Diego. Philbin was gone a few days that week due to his father passing. We prepared just fine (BETTER) without him.
I am in complete agreement with everything you just said. What I'm saying is that if Harbaugh comes here, he better come in that capacity. I...
Came the week Joe Philbin was gone the whole week of practice/preparation. We are a .500 team, and I see so many here saying that every single...
poppycock. Brees was not a known commodity at that time, in terms of who he would eventually amount to - in fact, culpepper probably had the...
HAHA. Its one thing to be mad about another bad season and put the blame where it belongs - mediocre to bad coaching and horrible leadership of...
HaHa what a clown post. If the players are oh so terrible then i guess Philbin is pretty good for getting to .500 with them right? NONSENSE....
We won't know much about any of our guys until we get a real head football coach in here. Tanny has shown he can win a d perform in this league....
No. And I look forward to studying all day. No more going out to watch these games unless we somehow get into playoff contention by week 17 which...
That all said - I'm on the Rex train.
I don't want a "God" coach. They never ever pan out. Get me a good game day coach who is awesome w one side of the ball and can lead men. Not an...
I'm real tired of the Hartline hate. He is fast - he had plenty of deep catches WITH TANNEHILL! in previous seasons. Also, he looked fast in...
We beat them in '08. Without Brady but still on the road. Anyway I won't be watching. Lost all enthusiasm for this season.
B.s. we dropped a pass or two, but we stopped running, had horrible protection and failed to counter the ravens in game adjustments. You may...
I've had it to the hearing this "talent" crap. This is the NFL not college. Its not like we r having to play OSU and we are a MAC team. There is...
I'm tired of hearing the "talent" argument around here. If we were simply not talented enough, then we would lose most our games to the better...
If Sporano had this team I think wed have more wins. Not saying he is a great coach, but his fate was tied to chad henne. As for the "upswing"...
"every week"
So their conference championship appearances mean nothing? or the fact that ever since Rex went to his second one with a QB worse than Tanny, the...
I agree on Coach, disagree on Tanny. That Pass to Gibson was dropped - solid play on 3rd down. That escaping the rush and throwing that...
Ok, so this is not an angry or emotional rant, but just an objective look at what i think is holding this team back most of all. I am actually...
I REALLY hope this happens. I think rex is the guy who would keep Lazor in place - but is a great motivator and players coach. Defense will be...
I like the idea of this conference system, in fact I love it. I actually think the 2 games a season vs rivals takes more away from the rivalry...
i like it lol. went to school up here, and I like public transportation, a bit of an edge, and being around people from all walks of life. It can...
I can go along with division winners at less than 8-8, so that a winning division winner does not get left out. However, i agree that division...
Looking at the putrid NFC south records, and being that the NFL counts league wide losses in playoff standings, I believe there is one common...
Saints are worthless. I really wonder if10-6 gets it done for us. AFC north is not losing games.
Actually, 2 full sections. Plus huge chunks of other sections. Also several other large numbers of dolphins fans sitting through the stadium. I'll...
Newark. Originally from Freehold.
I never like this type of thinking. Why do people always get so giddy over the idea of giving a retread coach who may or may not have won a...
thanks guys
I'm not sure if the front office is thinking we need to cut bait with Hartline and Gibson, but i WOULD NOT, and i also would not just assume that...
I'm not a huge fan of Philbin per se, BUT i say we absolutly have to bring him back at least for another year. Hickey IMO is a very good GM so...
I'll be there for the MetLife takeover. It is going to be close to a home game for us up here. JUST WIN.
Hi all, I am a lifelong Dolphins fan. I'm 29 and from NJ born and raised. I have extensive family in South Fl. and have always been a dolphins...
THIS logo is SICKK! i wish this was the one - i am not feeling the "leaked" one.
yeah, the offense has just be pathetic haha.
hahahahahahahaha!
the problem is, most people missed some very evident lack of intangables regarding Henne. He was never a leader and never commanded the respect of...
very well said.
I have noticed, watching player interviews over the past 2 weeks, that the guys seem really confident, almost cocky at times, and seem to not have...
DOlphins fans - the only fans to get mad anytime a player shows some balls, and the only fans to constantly get bullied in their own stadium. Get...
i wouldnt mess with Jimmy Wilson.
Hey all, I am a Finheaven reject. I basically blew a gasket over there several times due to the insanity that goes on over there on the boards....