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I think he did just fine in 2021...maybe he's learning.
17-1 would be a tragedy...go undefeated in the regular season and lose first playoff game? Ugh...
The reports out of camp so far (and a few videos I've seen) seem to completely wipe out what Orlovsky was saying there. And it cracks me up where...
Have no proof of course, but I can't be convinced without an MRI that he's actually injured. He's just there to be a 'professional' like he said...
Ageeed. 100%. Up to this point, the Flo-effect is real.
Thanks OPP, but I'm in a good place, comfortable with myself and my thoughts on the world and family. It sounds like you have many of the same...
Not to drudge up an old thread, but there have been NUMEROUS scientific discoveries over recent years that prove man existing on this planet long...
Playoff win+. This is my personal view of it. We should see numerous blatant signs that this team is on the right trajectory for a championship...
There's not agreeing with a take, then there's disregarding hard fact. Totally different.
Everybody understands it...some of us just don't agree with it under certain conditions, and agree with it under others. If he put up a great...
LOL. Spin 'em up. "Average guaranteed salary" in a league that doesn't have to guarantee salary. I wonder how he ranks on the "Annual Hangnails...
Truth. And one person shoulders the blame for this position, in the eyes of many. Its not that he "CAN'T" hold out, its not that he "CAN'T"...
Nobody made him sign it. He hosed himself. There's no secret about this league being about production/potential and the teams holding the cards...
Very fair post...appreciate the legwork.
Of course it wouldn't help the team if he's traded, at least for the near-term...unless Flo is even better than we thought (and I have a massively...
I think they're better with a chip-on-his-shoulder X...we may get lucky to see more evidence of it in 2021.
Certainly does. And the team has the right to let him ride the couch, losing money, paying back bonuses, etc.
Having every right to be upset about his contract, isn't founded in facts. For one, he signed his contract as the #1 paid CB in the league when...
Started being a Dolphins fan in about '72/'73'ish...when I was VERY young and Flipper was my favorite TV show. But Marino has a TON of fans...
Not a thing to do with loyalty...its to do with intentionally pulling some BS solely due to overinflated (and unearned) ego. He should go around...
I don't know if y'all saw it, but X was on a Man-to-Man Podcast a while back, where he said he was going to "make the Dolphins pay" for paying...
Pretty sure his entire salary was covered by the Dolphins, at least for that year. Edit: along with covering all of his medical expenses, etc.
Never said he's breaking his contract, and he IS bucking norms. When has a player came back, after one year of an extension that made him the...
Every situation is different...each player's level of skill is directly relevant. All the above signed the contract they signed, knowing damn...
I don't see what all the hub-bub's about. It's clear they were trying things they won't be doing on the regular (particularly in that weather,...
Green Marino jersey in '87. Next was an Orange Zach Thomas in '98. Still have 'em, along with a bunch since. Will die with 'em, at which point...
Poor Phil's tweet didn't age well. His argument is that X isn't feared or doesn't cover as tightly as those others, even when the stats prove him...
If he's just looking for more guaranteed money (which has run out on this contract), I'm ALL for it. Insurance is a great thing, and I believe...
And I'd say that's a fair concern, as nothing we've seen from our OC(s) proves either way. Uncharted territory we're headed into...and its...
9-8*...with the 17 game season. I'm seeing at LEAST 11-6 personally...slightly optimistic but I don't think unrealistic, unless some wheels fall...
Throwback styling (fix helmet emblem), NO aqua pants, ever, and I'm good. A variant with a blue jersey for an occasional change would be...
Both important, yes, but the level of importance of using both to gain ToP advantages, would be equal...if the team being considered equally used...
Ya I mean if it doesn't work well, and the run game still stifles us, I'm all in.
^^^ I'm fine with seeing how this strategy works out for 2021 w/o sweating a top-tier RB.
All it took was a 6th rounder? Nice move for the donkeys, IMO.
Yes...over-emphasized...IMO. Kid is smooth as silk, glue-hands, shifty as hell and very fast. His balance and agility are freaking insane.
The league is trash. They've allowed competitional advantages to certain select teams/players for years, among other crap they've pulled.
Because that #3 pick had disgustingly high value. There had to be a reason they pulled the trade early like this...like maybe having some...
Color me surprised, shocked even, that we didn't go crazy in FA...and I love it. Maybe they're finally learning. Blowing the wad in FA NEVER...
Fleeced...sorry. Dropped from franchise QB range, to non-franchise QB range (no, I'm not saying franchise QBs ONLY come from top 5, but in the...
If we pick ANYBODY at 3 we're throwing trainloads of value away. Sewell, IMO, isn't good enough for the value that position holds in THIS year's...
Oh they were Class A Dysfunctional...zero doubt. However, I put a lot of emphasis on personal accountability and responsibility. He showed ZERO...
Complete bust. One of the worst top 5 picks in history, IMO, at least for this team. Miami tried their *** off to get the kid straight...wasn't...
I like it personally. Too many times in the past few decades this team has "won the off-season" and it never panned out in reality. I'm all for...
I'd say so, personally, but its nuanced. IMO, Ws and Ls aren't all of the story...not saying its everything, but strength of victory (unless...
We could lose more games next year simply based off the increased difficulty in schedule, finishing 2nd in the division. Our strength of victory...
I don't believe they just gave up...I believe Flo earnestly believed this was the better move over hiring guys like McDaniel and the others (right...
You're only avoiding the Ram 'cuz you know you'll buy it if you drive it. :) Motor Trend's Truck of the Year 3x in a row...record. Sure do love...
Could be steep, ya, but ya gotta start somewhere. Somewhere between there and a 2021 2nd and 2022 1st.
Yep, that 3 pick is much more valuable than the proposed trade. For a drop to 19 I'm asking for 1st/2nd picks for 3 years.
Umm...Miami's Defense was #1 in the league on 3rd downs in 2020.
Could still see a Tua/Smith reunion...only in Houston...not sure how I feel about that lol.
Yes, "they" still only won 4 games...not he. They had severe issues due to HC/GM incompetence. In the immortal words of Gunny Highway, the guy...
We'll see how it shakes out come the draft. That's the great thing about guessing and trying to predict what they'll do. Nobody ever gets it...
We'll see...teams do stupid **** all the time. Miami drafted Tannehill (who I still love btw, not dogging him) at 7...that was WAY too high. He...
Its a VERY QB thirsty year...and most of that thirst will get quenched, whether the prospects deserve an R1 designation or not. There's logic,...
Some of these prospects for 2021 would be well-served to do up their own "combine" type workout video and send it out to teams. Will be...
That's one entertaining breakdown right there.
Lance at a trade-down to 12th or so would be least painful I guess.
I think it would be ludicrous to take a QB in the 1st. I also think it would be ludicrous to NOT hedge against potentially moving on from Tua in...
Agreed. There should be some great opportunity to bring in some above-average players at a very reasonable cap hit...and I believe Grier/Flo can...
The last time I rooted for a divisional opponent to win the Super Bowl, because they'd never won one, they ended up getting 6. Not making that...
There will be a lot of opportunity this coming FA period...not a bad consolation prize eh?
Its not about accurate results, its about probabilities and predictions. Its not accurate fact until it happens, of course.
It will be interesting and unique, this situation, as far as I can remember, has NEVER happened in the Super Bowl era. And like you said, Miami,...
Never.
I bet the Houston owner lets Easterby go...unless ego is making the decision, in which case, we BETTER be on the phone!
That 3 pick is so damn valuable though...I dunno if its prudent to pick ANY player there, if there are takers for trades (which there should be at...
Just waiting for the surprise... "The Miami Dolphins have hired Norv Turner to be their Offensive Coordinator."
I hear ya...I'm more referring to improvement along "his" talents. He'll never have Allen's arm...the dude can flick it, falling down, sideways,...
Yes and going into his 2nd year, he'd made strides. He fixed a lot of bad...and in that Houston playoff game, he looked the part...until those...
This is the part that has really been nagging at me since they started him. After the Arizona game, it seemed maybe Flo knew something we didn't...
One of the most glaring examples of how important OCs/position coaches are to a team, as well as the Pederson example. HC is king, but the other...
Ya ya...and in 2010, nobody gave a damn what you had to say...some things never change.
My take is this, and it will represent my last post in this thread. Tannehill ALWAYS showed improvement in his game. It may have been small...
What you CAN notice is all the busted coverage stuff he takes advantage of. A good chunk of that is probably from his run threat. What you can...
I dunno man...we gave him opportunity to show the rest of the league just how inept he was...in spades. For Jets management to believe in him...
On one hand, I'm sick of playing the Ravens as they seem to have had our number for many years. On the other, that should be a good barometer of...
I don't believe Tua is a lost cause/bust/crap QB, whatever you want to call it. I believe we'll see a much improved player in 2021, you can't...
If it were up to me, that pick, along with a few more and Tua, would be headed to Houston, and Deshaun would be sporting an aqua 4.
I think that could be the start of the convo...and they BETTER be having that convo... You don't get the chance at a franchise/borderline elite...
Have one to add... Ryan Tannehill would've been proficient deep into the 2020 post-season as a Miami Dolphin.
I really hope they can take out the ****birds again...but they don't have Pees anymore and that defense is not ready for primetime. Gonna be a...
Maybe Beasley's injury is a lot worse than it looked?
Several aren't listing the game at all now, and a few also aren't listing the Steelers game.
Wow...they gotta...Vegas is all about their lines.
Cleveland favored by 7...Bills favored by 3, currently
If you went by how the Bills played tonight, we don't have a prayer. Jesus are they hot! Just when the Cheaters get crappy...
Naaa McLovin was chill. He wasn't the trolly type, but those others... Along with several other shorter-term Cheaters trolls that showed up,...
The Bills/Steelers are in competition for the 2 seed, and they both play at 1PM next Sunday, I don't think they sit people. I've been counting on...
Flo has been adamant about one thing since he came here. You earn your place, or you don't play. Its refreshing to see that also apply to a...
Crazy to think we'd be getting a top 5 pick, but I'll damn sure take it! If we end up at 3, I wouldn't mind seeing a trade-down to a QB starved...
Ya that was a terrible game...all around. All teams/QBs have 'em, you'd have to be a 3-year old not to understand that. That was one of those...
If damn Atlanta woulda finished the Chiefs off today...they HAD it, blew it...that woulda been crazy.
And for week 17, Miami has an extra day for preparation, and the Bills have 2 less than the Dolphins...granted, its a road game, but aside from...
Very possible, ya. If it shakes out how I'm hoping it will (Miami win @ Buffalo and Cleveland loses out), we'd be at Pittsburgh round 1, and...
And how sweet is that...to eliminate the Cheaters from playoff contention one week...then eliminate the Raiders from playoff contention the...
Look at that swing............ [MEDIA]
I don't think that's all on him though. Gailey's keeping him close to the vest IMO. I'm sure he has his reasons, and it could very well be that...
First game in NFL history to finish 26-25...weird. But not as weird as how it unfolded LOL!! That throw Fitz made has GOT to be the craziest...
I frequent a Titans message board as well, and they pretty much all agreed with how BS the OPI and DPI calls there at the end were. If the refs...
Wish I could like this post 1000 times. I don't want to see Tua unless its in garbage time or if Fitz gets hurt.
Just like Flo drew it up...who's next?
Chance at a turnover here...come on get X, X.
All I heard coming into this game was how bad LV's passing D was...yet we call this gameplan...
He's a bum...shouldn't even be starting on STs IMO. LV D came to play...Dolphins not-so-much.
Oh Smith is on a few short lists already...so far I've seen Jags, Chargers, and I believe Lions.
Running backs you say? Like that fastest runner in the NFL through week 15, one Mr. Salvon Ahmed (video below)?...
Fastest ball-carrier this season so far? Kinda surprising:...
Next Gen Stats: "Ryan Tannehill reached a top speed of 20.13 mph on his 17-yard TD run, the 3rd fastest speed reached by a QB on a TD run this...
That defense is REALLY letting that team down, in a big way. They can still potentially miss the playoffs if they don't clamp down some.
What's even crazier, is right now, the Dolphins have the #1 defense in the NFL...and the Titans are the #1 offense in the NFL... [MEDIA]
My brain just exploded........
Isn't it crazy? Last year, you NEVER could've convinced me I'd be pulling for the Pats in a game...ever... So let's all say it...
Ryan Tannehill has taken step towards the NFL's elite (fansided.com)
Should Xavien Howard be in the running for Defensive Player of the Year? (fansided.com)
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Ya its certainly going to take 11 to get in, at this point. Borderline impossible at 10. Every week is a playoff week for this team, like Flo...
Ya my only 2 concerns were injury history and arm strength...he don't have a cannon, nor is it as strong as RT's, but after watching several...
Question is, can the Bills beat the Dolphins?!
Naa Tua will get time to grow with the critical folks. The big difference is he comes in with a strong NFL level toolset and was successful on...
That's a funny way of spelling reasons.
That boy's havin' the time of his life. Love to see it. His interaction with Henry at the end there is fun to watch.
You ever seen some of that Bills Mafia crap? LOL
Article opens up with: "The emergence of Derrick Henry as the NFL’s rushing leader has coincided exactly with the emergence of Ryan Tannehill as...
This dude...lol. Typical.
They had absolutely ZERO business losing that game. Probably early-onset COVID.
When all else fails...blame COVID. Got it.
I was messing around with the playoff machine, and there is a pretty strange potential outcome to the playoff bracketing, if Miami could win-out....
That's the great thing about a season-long statistic...it all balances out, vs good and bad. Teams don't get to the #2 seed by beating all...
CORRECTION: #1 Scoring Defense (#32 in 2019) #1 Defense in Turnovers (#29 in2019) #1 3rd Down Defense (#24 in 2019)
Told folks weeks ago I hope we make the playoffs and go to Pittsburgh first round. They're a joke for an 11-0 started team.
This board, has a LONG history of other teams' fans showing up to talk trash (usually Patriots)...and in a great percentage of those situations,...
Some key team defensive stats: #2 Scoring Defense #1 Defense in Turnovers #1 3rd Down Defense (with an offense that is 21st in the league in 3rd...
I think you'll have that anyway...the Steelers don't scare anybody. I can see them 1 and done. I believe the Bills are, right now, the #2 team...
And just what does that 2 seed get you?
He's a Patriots' jock-riding douchelick. Next?
Maybe some improvement, but not night-and-day level. He improved multiple facets of his game every year in Miami, if slowly, so it's nothing new...
One could argue those 2 elements ALONE are very important to the success of a QB/passing game. Especially when you're going through numerous new...
Agreed...if that's a possibility, there's no way they'd pass on Parsons. One draft philosophy is, drafting to your strengths. This team's...
Can you imagine the contract implications 5 years down the road? Ouch.... Not that I wouldn't LOVE those 3 picks.
In fairness...that stiff-arm is a felony in many states.
It is, but they've had their moments. If they can ignore a portion of Rodgers' PA stuff, they should have a chance. If they can get up for that...
LOVE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Miami, after being arguably the worst NFL team to ever take the field at the beginning of 2019, to a winning record in...
I'm gonna need the Dolphins and Titans to win-out...where it would be Miami @ Tennessee 1st round of the playoffs.
His performance today puts him in 3rd in passer rating. Good stuff. And he has a shot of moving ahead of Mahomes for 2nd (thanks in large part...
We had poor ownership, poor coaching, poor general management, and below-average player development as a standard. If we had him right now, we'd...
How are they on 3rd downs though? I seem to recall them not being able to get off the field at a good rate. Points is the big stat, but other...
Kinda strange how those guys do their rankings...they have Josh Allen 3rd, who has 400 more yards passing than Tannehill, same throwing TDs, 3%...
From a dude on a Titans forum, in a thread about where Tannehill stands as Titans QB: "McNair was a warrior and hes my favorite Titan but he is...
Ah so it would appear he started a bit before this year...the new HC is all about it evidently. So he's out-Tannehilling Tannehill...which makes...
I could be wrong, but it seems like I read somewhere a few weeks ago that Aaron Rodgers, for the first time in his career, has embraced...
Gah...voted a bunch of times. I don't think he can catch Chase Young.
No business on the field as a WR IMO. Put Perry in there over him, the waterboy, IDGAF, just no more Grant.
100%. Shame I could only like it once.
I didn't like our chances much at all, then Gaskins gets on the COVID list...like 'em even less now :( Looking like we're about to get boat-raced.
That's crazy...I'm exactly the opposite for all games lol. Think there's a solid chance we both go 2-2 though :) I just don't see Pittsburgh as...
The mistake wasn't in the letting him go...it was screwing him over with turd coaching and surrounding cast for multiple years. Best thing they...
Ya and Tannehill has his fair share of those bad bounces...like the "INT" he threw against the Browns lol. Regarding Tua so far, he has...
Oh and don't forget...who will the Stej be drafting next spring? lol
Lots of people sleeping on Josh Allen...even fans in the same division. They still have it stuck in their heads, all the bonehead plays he made...
Maybe start off a game in the no-huddle, even if the other team had the ball first (and didn't sustain a long drive)? He looked like a completely...
Not even surprising, at this point...more expected.
Call it fan PTSD, to an extent...I'm working on getting past it. I asked because I'd somehow missed cbrad's post that he linked, and I knew he...
Ya his receivers had some ugly drops/through the hands plays, else it would've been disgusting.
So is this argument about Tannehill finally dead, taking into account today's performance? Was dead for me years ago, still... Edit: Not that he...
All depends on your interpretation of "destroyed." We just played a team that is near bottom of the league in those stats (they'd given up 30+...
This one's on Flores/coaches IMO. On to New York!
Try as I may, I just can't see Denver scoring over about 16, especially if Lock's out. Our weakness on D is against the rush, and they're around...
"What you gonna do....when the Amoeba comes for YOU!"
In a vacuum, before the season, hell yes I'd have been pretty excited if you'd told me the Dolphins were 10-6 in 2020. Not now. 10-6, IMO, is...
Half a game.
BOOM!!!!
He's earned it, IMO.
I agree, and for me, its kind of hard to accept what my eyes are seeing with him, until I watch replays several times and catch some analysis on...
"The Centers for Disease Control guidance explicitly acknowledges the uncertainty that doctors can face when identifying the cause of death. When...
You guys seriously believe those numbers? When people who have died in motorcycle crashes were designated as Covid deaths? Have at it.
When the base number is ridiculously off like Covid numbers are, it skews everything.
You, sir, have been assimilated. When somebody I know loses a very long battle with stage 4 cancer and dies from it, only to be counted as a...
Absolutely not...far lower. I know people personally that have died from other things, but were attributed to Covid.
248k deaths holds no water whatsoever, sorry.
With that Titans Defense and Special Teams, they wouldn't have a prayer.
Love those kinds of stories...makes it even easier to pull for the guy.
Voted for the throwbacks, of course!
Imagine if he had even one of his main two guys from Bama on this team... That would be something to see.
Pure class.
While they haven't had a tough game yet, the Pittsburgh Defense is #1 in yards, passing yards, rushing yards, and most importantly, points. Gonna...
All that under-fire practice he got in Miami has paid off!! (for another team.....) [MEDIA]
First question I ask myself is, "would Bill O'Brian trade him away in this scenario?" I believe that answer is yes, so the Dolphins won't do it.
Y'all killin' me lol...just ignore the dude...much better that way, trust me.
Knowing his full history, how do you NOT love the hell outta this kid?! I mean, "its huge," "each and every week," gets a bit old hahaha...but...
Anybody notice this one? [MEDIA] Its worth a read.
Tannehill+Henry+Titans Offense...fun to watch.
I was down on him in some games...didn't seem to have that clutch gene people fantasize about...needed more pocket presence and didn't think he'd...
"The Titans made NFL history. Per NFL Research, the Titans became the first team to score a touchdown on every red zone possession (minimum six...
Somebody (who has me blocked thankfully), seemed to be really pushing that narrative that the Titans 'ain't beat nobody good.' The Jills have...
If a Miami QB threw up these stats, I'd be fairly happy. [MEDIA] His 2020 start: 44 of 60 (73.3%) for 460 yards, 6 TDs, 0 INTs Very small...
Titans HC has shown that propensity to keep it close.
Allen sure does look like he's turned the corner from that debacle he displayed against Houston. Caveat: he's played the Stej and Fins so far.
Based on every report I've ever heard about Tua's ability to lock-down an offense in record time, repeatedly, coupled with his seemingly...
That's my coach! Hell of a man, that's what you call leadership. I see the kneeling slightly differently, but I'm onboard 100% with everything...
On your point about not all throws being equal, RT also completed the most statistically difficult pass in 2019 (according to advanced...
He's a scrub bro...just listen to the dude. I mean, who wants a guy who, despite not starting almost half the season, "left no question about his...
No doubt...he needs to improve there. I'm just saying, as of "right now," with Tannehill's warts, I'd take those guys over him. If he turns in...
His full skills toolbox doesn't jump off the stat sheet, but that dude just has a knack for keeping them in games they shouldn't be in (save the...
I'd say he's a solid Tier 2...toward the top of the tier - inching toward 1. I just don't know if I'd ever be able to call him Tier 1 (I view...
Touchdownwire ranked the best QBs at numerous types of throws, specifically: Best 3-step Drop: Ryan Tannehill Best Outside the Pocket: Ryan...
As soon as people can learn to scroll by something they have no interest in...so probably never.
They kinda blew that myth out of the water in 2016 when they had back-to-back games at SD and Rams, and won both. Then again in 2017 at the...
Week 13...I'm surprised nobody's focused in on that one yet. Potential Tua vs Burrow...at The Rock! Marquee match-up for their rookie years, if...
I can't believe you're still arguing with that dude lol...he's been proven wrong and intentionally misleading COUNTLESS times, and should be...
I'm pretty hyped up over the kid too...I hope he can stick...can do a LOT of things well.
And where are those coaches now? Besides Gase, who is muffing up another team, that happens to be our rival so "good on ya." Philbin was lucky...
And for the record, I don't think ANY of us who supported Tannehill want anything but the best for Tua as a Miami Dolphin. The dream scenario, to...
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/titans-ryan-tannehill-and-a-j-brown-ranked-as-top-10-qb-wr-combo/ar-BB13vn45?ocid=msedgntp
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This kid just looks so damn special...mostly in the smarts and accuracy categories, throw in pocket presence for good measure. Has to be the most...
Don't sleep on Malcolm Perry...QB from Navy we picked in the 7th round. Slot/Jet Sweeps in this kid's future, with the occasional trickerations...