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Is releasing someone not the same thing? They all would if they had the leverage to do so
Well you should give a **** since its why they hold out for more money Either Demand both sides honor contracts or just accept this is what...
Teams will dump you the first second they can if you underachieve so its only fair
I kind of thought it might have been a bit out of context. Like he was disappointed it took so long but much of it was the emotion of being drafted.
Him feeling safe isn't good but him GMing like he is safe is good. I still feel like he is going to retire or move into an advisory role
I would take him now. Feels pretty low risk even though I am sure part of the fanbase would treat it like they drafted Hitler.
Grier doesn't deserve the benefit of the doubt when it comes to drafting in particular offensive line but I can't be too offended at them losing...
They can give up 75 points a game for all I care. They needed a guard.
Shedeur must have had a legendarily bad interviews
And he loses a little bit of backup appeal if teams fear Deion is going to **** on them for not playing him
At this point we are almost where its someone taking him as a backup in which case it could be almost anyone. Browns are probably just looking to...
Trade down draft a guard thank you
The problem with the Jackson pick wasn't him being bad the first two years its the games he has missed two of the past three years. But they...
Austin Jackson did not have injury concerns
End of the first round is probably where I would be ok with Miami taking him
Its also possible Grier is going to retire or move on some kind of advisory role which was rumored this offseason. Its probably the best...
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Yeah but my point is why does Grier feel comfortable enough to not make that kind of panic move to win as many games this year. I wasn't saying he...
Not really as they absolutely could have restructured Tua as the biggest way to free up more money
On one hand I am glad they aren't kicking the can down the road but on the other hand how does Grier feel safe enough to not do that?
Geno too. Hopefully the Jets truly are just that bad.
Send Grier back to bed
Quitting in the final game is all I need to know to not want him around but it should be remembered that he could have had surgery and just...
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What is really happening here is Johnathan Martin is trying to laughably rebrand himself as an "alpha" so this is just as much trying to change...
Its pretty odd seeing some people who are very much against any excuses for Tua looking under any rock they can to find excuses for Herbert. 1 of...
Yeah its true Tua can't get Tyreek the ball. I am convinced.
I know its exciting when anyone says something negative about Tua but it would help if it made a little bit of sense
Its the one thing I don't blame Flores for. It would have been better if they got the number 1 pick but what is he supposed to do other than try...
Maybe you will get your wish and it will be something serious.
Or they just don't play for 8 months and that is plenty of time for something that doesn't apparently need surgery.
You said someone isn't being honest which does mean someone is lying.
Why would someone have to be dishonest here? Obviously there could be something seriously wrong but if there isn't who is lying? Or is there...
It was also pretty unrealistic to think they really could have only won like 4 games without Tua just never returning
Its not like Grier is bringing in guys like Tyreek without McDaniel being 100% on board. McDaniel has to at least share the blame and that is...
Well the schedule is pretty brutal next year
He was a model teammate for 3 years until he very much wasn't and quit on the team. He has to go.
He is getting cut
At least they will hurt Jets draft position
Looks like Miami saw the Denver score and have given up
Sounds like a nice cushy job because Ross loves him or maybe a thank you for him being with franchise for so long which is fine by me. Definitely...
You are trying so at least I will give you that. Its pretty cute.
That is me talking about what they should do if they got Watson. Someone said if they got Watson they didn't need to worry about offensive line....
He would have always wanted a new deal and would have always got one. Maybe not with the full guarantee but best case is you are about to cut him...
Working out well for Cleveland
And Watson
Dolphins could lose. Its hard to see Miami as anything more than a slight favorite.
I don't Reid would or should think too hard about who gets in but yeah I think Miami getting in is best for KC. Cincy easily could beat Buffalo...
I would imagine they would put all 3 relevant AFC wild card games on in the 4pm window.
I am not excited about the Huntley being the backup next year but they would have made the playoffs if Huntley was the backup all along.
Cap hit makes that a non option without a full blow up
I didn't say anything about it being evidence of Tua being anything. That is your agenda. Saying you need a legit starter ignores how many legit...
Both Punters going to be sore tomorrow
Defense sure did though
Malik Nabors did not get the tank memo
Yeah I withdraw everything I said
Players want to win and I can't imagine the coach feels his job is safe. I wouldn't be shocked if they lose but its just because they suck.
Yes they would be in. Putting your faith in Drew Lock, Tyler Huntley, and Carson Wentz is not something that sounds good for your health.
Just to be clear you are saying blow it up right? Because I can't see what else you could do other than that.
Backup QBs are bad and people just don't understand that. I don't even understand your point about them being available. Backups don't get...
Brissett and Teddy would have been considered a couple of the better backups at the time they were signed. You would be lucky to find one or two...
They play banged up Nabors every week even though they probably shouldn't so they definitely aren't trying to lose they just really suck.
Tannehill clearly has no interest in doing anything like that
That is exactly what you would tell him to do if you were the coach He is constantly playing through injuries and did so even when the season...
Tyreek being soft might be one of the absurd takes I have ever seen
If Denver loses both they only need Indy to lose one
Dolphins would have no business losing to DTR. If its Jameis? All bets are off.
Can't imagine what the players are dealing with mentally. Tua looked shook up after that TD.
That was extremely concerning
offensive line playing about as bad as I have ever seen and that says a lot.
Its clearly run blocking where they stink. No Hunt and lesser extent Jackson have taken its toll.
Small l It was always pretty low risk but boy does he look washed
Obviously losses are a QB stat. Wins are a team stat.
That was 3 hours of pure torture but what is important is **** the jets
Maybe they just want to screw up the Jets draft position. Really some high level strategy here from Miami.
Defense just wanted to prove that the cold weather wasn't their problem last week. Smart stuff.
Punting from the Jets side of the field is a shockingly cowardly call from McDaniel and would be questionable even if the defense had shown up at...
Shameful defensive performance
Liam once again top tier at being a pest
5 runs vs 22 passes. Prime McDaniel.
I have seen people say his wife said he did this to get to Philly and if that is true he can **** off. If he wanted to play for Miami its a bit...
Chargers are still the Chargers
I would say the opposite because I can't picture Baltimore falling out of it and I still assume they will end up winning the division But if they...
There really isn't anything you can justifiably do other than be happy they won so the finger wagging at fans for doing so is pretty hilarious....
Time to call Danny Dimes
Unleash Skylar
And they never blow out New England even in the last couple years. Probably haven't done it since the 90s.
Remember when Chop was a bust
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It should be considered that this team wasn't going to pick 5 with Tua playing so unless you are really invested in the difference of where you...
Clearly Saleh was the problem
People should stop taking the bait from people who are not Dolphin fans.
Eichenberg is elite at annoying defenders
If it actually fires him out and he balls out obviously that is great but he really shouldn't be mad at him. It wasn't like he was being mean...
Jets are bad and Rodgers is washed
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Nico Collins merchant
Dolphins getting an extremely rare and probably unlikely win vs Buffalo would almost add to the frustration of this season because you would...
Will you people stop ruining perfectly good Jets trashing threads. ITS ALL WE GOT LEFT!
Who would have thought that giving all the power to a 40 year old narcissistic QB wasn't a great idea
Just remember that today Jets fans feel much worse than we do
Well at least the Jets and "elite Rodgers" are bad
McDaniel said he is week to week so it must be something kind of bad
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Every fired coach is the scapegoat for the failures of the organization and yet we never see them rat on anything and everything. Nothing was said...
Tannenbaum was the one making those decisions at that point
Flores is clearly a great defensive coach but even if you ignore the offensive disaster and failure to develop their QB you have to consider what...
This is supposed to be a thread of making fun of the Jets
Tua should hold out for more money
Followed up those great Wright runs by never letting him see the ball again To be fair that makes sense as you really need to get the ball in...
Which would be dumb. He looks awful but this what they should know they have to deal with with someone who has barely ever played.
Given that he has never been pulled for a concussion without having one and even finished a game with a concussion I don't think its something...
Well Josh Allen was a full dumpster fire last week but he also has one of the worst WR cores in the league at least until today. Rodgers would...
I am not claiming he is mega washed but overall he has just played ok
Did you watch him play against Denver and Minnesota? Have you seen how teams are able to blitz him when they absolutely could not in GB?
Yes QBs over 40 should look like they are on a serious decline and he does. That is the whole point. The arm is still good so that is encouraging...
That is debatable but what isn't was he was coming off two really bad games. He isn't having a particularly good year.
Arm is still good but he doesn't have the mobility. Pretty much a middling starter at this point which isn't what they were looking for.
There was no controversy over him wearing it
People would care but nobody cares about him wearing the Lebanese flag which is the point. He wasn't fired for it and he has worn it before. Who...
Its a flag. Who gives a ****
Meanwhile Rodgers makes sure his buddy Hackett keeps a job he never should have had in the first place
It was the best the offense has ever looked without Tua they just left a lot of points on the field.
As I said before the media and in particular ESPN went after the Dolphins in 2022 as a way to cover for the league. This will be easy to sweep...
Definitely not toast. Definitely overpaid.
It wasn't reports. Tua said he considered it.
I think a lot of the people that have this opinion have it because they just want Tua to play and are frustrated with how bad the team is playing....
He wasn't the GM when Philbin was here
If you want them to make a rational hire of someone experienced why would you want Deion?
They are pretty much putting out one of the worst offenses the league has seen in decades without him. Its ok to admit they are substantially worse.
Deion may make it work in college by way of recruiting but he is not any kind of quality coach
The only thing they can be accused of doing wrong in 2022 is letting him finish the Bills but if he was actually cleared what were they supposed...
Grier is bad. McDaniel is worse. Special teams coach should be shot into the sun.
McDaniel has raced passed Grier as looking like the bigger problem as much I hate to say it
At this point Tua should just hold out for more money
Tyler actually completed a pass so that is a pretty big difference
Can we post now?
They got hammered because they got caught and because it was so blatant. I can't think of any comparison to any other example of tampering. There...
NFL and NFLPA were also trying to cover themselves because of their own policy failures in regards to the Buffalo game in 2022. Media members like...
He didn't shine but he also didn't look afraid to throw the ball
There isn't a backup they could have got that would be a threat to Tua
Even if you somehow convinced yourself that Flacco was elite once he certainly isn't now. They certainly would be a lot more watchable but the...
Super injury prone so he won't last behind the line. Rams also aren't going to just give him away either. Just doesn't seem to be any real good...
Russel Wilson is obviously the only answer if you are trying to win but I doubt the Steelers would give him away for anything you would want to...
There isn't any good reason to go from awful to slightly less awful
Burrow is fine the defense is terrible. Heads need to roll in Jacksonville.
Speaking of difficult to watch https://ftw.usatoday.com/2024/09/dolphins-butt-photo-seahawks
They were never going to play him within a few weeks. Sometimes the "optics" matches the reality.
They aren't talentless and they don't win 2 games a year so he has done an ok job but ok isn't good enough. Time for him to go but we also don't...
Field goals plural sounds fist pump worthy after todays disaster
Not exactly the most bold prediction
Outside of getting cooked by DK the defense showed up. Even the worst version of Tua would have probably led them to a win.
To be fair Tua would have actually thrown the ball before some of those hits
I am pretty sure Fuller didn't pull himself for a concussion Although at this point I am not sure I would blame him
Huntley has to start week 4. He isn't great but he is an NFL caliber player.
Armstead going to be in a full body cast in a few weeks. Someone let that poor man retire.
If Tua doesn't come back they may compete for the #1 pick
Boyle is the backup today
Tua retires then the first pick is a QB without question. Tua doesn't then I think they should look at the second or third round.
Nobody is going to trade for Bryce Young in the middle of the season especially the Dolphins
Kyler Murray is just as short and he makes it work
Mahomes had one in 2014 and one in 2021. He even got to his feet after them so we don't need to say he had fencing postures like Tua. We don't...
The amount of them makes it different now. It really doesn't matter that players have had lots concussions its safe to say we know now that is...
There is no reason to pretend Tua and his concussion situation is the same as any other player and its not like there is a manual of how to deal...
I saw a shocking large number of Dolphin fans complaining about this on twitter and wasn't really expecting people here to be as confused. He is...
I would assume based on what we have heard about what Tannehill is looking for that he would probably not have signed if he was only guaranteed a...
Its not like they didn't have the option to bring him back. They didn't because he was terrible and there was no reason to.
Teddy was considered very serviceable before coming to Miami
Even if trading assets for some teams backup is a good idea the other team still has to want to do that
Not putting him on IR yet points there too but I don't read anything into signing Huntley because it was always Tannehill or raid a practice squad...
Not in the cards now but if Tua doesn't come back I can't picture Skylar playing 15 more games
I would imagine Bill isn't going anywhere without also being the coach but regardless of that he isn't a good GM. Great coach but not great GM....
He would still have this years money and the signing bonus which is nothing to sneeze at. Still a lot to walk away from obviously.
Well on the bright side Achane is apparently very healthy
Honestly you have to at least make the call.
They absolutely do have to just sign Tannehill tomorrow. Not much else you can really do at this point.
What did we do in a past life to deserve to be born as Dolphins fans
I think they probably share some concerns there or they wouldn't have got Wright.
You know Dolphin football is truly back when "he only did it for one quarter" makes its first appearance.
I can't say I am too confident. Josh Allen just owns this team so badly.
I think its less the overall big names and more Tua vs Lawrence. Media just decided Tua was bad and Lawrence great any hard look at the Jags might...
Ah yes fans with hope is definitely more obnoxious than desperately waiting for any opportunity to talk about how the team and everyone on it is trash
They didn't make the playoff but they did have a winning record
Browns easily. Not only did they give up less for someone that wasn't an embarrassment to the franchise but are free of him already and the dead...
Could you imagine if they had made the move for Watson? He is total trash.
When they let Holland walk it can not be defended
At least they look better than Carolina
Losing Ramsey hurts a lot but let us all consider that last year it would be X and Apple stepping up and they can't even get on a team right now....
Are we willing to pretend nobody was even willing to go a few million more on the base and roll the dice on Odell Beckham? Or even that the...
I would yes but I would not sign for 3 million and sit on the bench if I could sign for more somewhere else and sit on the bench. There is no...
Only if you believe that Odell couldn't have got more than a base of 3 million from anyone else. Which I really don't think anyone here believes....
Players who don't want to play don't sign incentive based contracts.
While you could imagine the seat getting hot if they flamed out this year you can't really expect a different coach to get more out of Tua and Tua...
If it gets that desperate that is when you call Tannehill. I don't really want to see anymore of Chosen but not too hung up on who they add to...
Tannehill is waiting for a Flacco type situation.
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Its also why he got the deal he got Its just can't really be Will Fuller because he isn't getting as much and he isn't as important to the group
https://www.miamidolphins.com/news/miami-dolphins-make-roster-moves-8-27-24 They cut EZE and Blake Ferguson. They also only have 4 WRs so safe to...
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I don't think anyone is impressed with him but he was better, he is cheaper, and he threw less hospital balls.
Could be they are trying to speed up the process of letting other teams have a look because they want to bring him back on the cheap. But I hope not
Time to cut Mike White
Think about you adding someone like Mostert in there as if anyone would have viewed him as elite talent or that he was on the way to having his...
Tua was more valuable to the franchise in every possible way just like every starting QB is. They fired him for wildly failing to develop their...
Jeff Darlington said Flores would text Tua that he sucked. That is so ridiculous I don't know how Tua hasn't trashed him more or sooner.
It was his choice to play Tua
Which would be a problem if he said anything negative or harmful about the team which he didn't.
Sure what Tua said won't help win games because it has nothing to do with that at all. Bringing up winning and playoff games is what actually is...
I don't think its much of a he said she said since Flores doesn't dispute anything Tua said. Its also not the first time we have heard of issues...
Some people conveniently ignored that he was coached by Saban when the original reports of Tua and Flores having issues after Flores was fired and...
Both were a bit better than week 1 and Skylar in particular really got let down by WRs so it wasn't THAT bad. I kind of expect they will just...
One angle you have to consider in the Sewell vs Waddle debate is whether Tua stays as this teams QB when he has absolutely nobody to throw to in...
If they didn't they wouldn't be negotiating. Its not an either/or between biggest contract ever and telling him to **** off.
They aren't winning a SB with a journeyman QB either so what exactly are we talking about? There options are pay Tua, Pay Dak 60 million if he is...
The team is set back years just the same if Tua isn't the QB going forward. "just draft another QB" is odd from fans of a team who went two...
Maybe not complain but it still means risking 100s of millions. Its not a great outcome.
It seems like more of a commentary on the state of the QB market as a whole in which case the NFLPA should probably be unhappy.
Yes the punishments don't feel right but the Dolphins were absurdly blatant about what they did. I also don't think they should have been let...
Remember when Rodgers said the team needed to cut out the BS that had nothing to do with winning? Feel a bit bad for Saleh who will be thrown...
And the people paying the bills are billionaires and nobody demands they "honor the contract" of the players they release.
They would just franchise Tua which is the exact reason him and his management wouldn't want to play out this year without a deal.
Its fair game to me for players to use whatever leverage they have. Teams will dump players the moment they aren't worth their contract so its...
Having more success than the Dolphins is an extremely low bar
Well he did try to get Harbaugh once and failed. Didn't try the second time because he cared more about Michigan. Also tried to get Fisher and...
Nobody would care about any of this if it was a different QB
I prefer my kickers to not think women belong in the kitchen but either way as long as they can make a field goal its whatever.
I agree which is why it shouldn't be their first option and I don't think it comes to that but you never know what his agent is trying to get.
He certainly wouldn't be allowed to walk in that scenario as they would just franchise him and the tag is leverage the front office shouldn't be...
Dolphins don't need to eat cap money to improve at the kicker position. Sanders had a really good second half of the season and he came up quite...
Both sides are using whatever leverage they have in negotiations its not a big deal. And the basis of this thread is pretty hilarious. Someone...
The NFL and mainly the media members such as ESPN who want to protect the NFL needed to make it about Tua and how the Dolphins handled it to...
I didn't say untrue I said unfair. Everyone here acknowledges his flaws. We don't need to pretend people don't just to justify arguing about Tua...
Because he didn't say anything unfair. He wasn't creating strawmen.
Sure if you make up a perception that doesn't exist among anyone then yeah you can definitely fight that.
How does that lead to Tua signing for 15 million?
You do know that 35 year old Kirk Cousins got 45 million a year on the open market right?
He has no issue being a distant #2 on the Rams or part of an ensemble receiving core on a run first team in Baltimore so I don't think that is a...
He can still get open
Performance of the picks in the rookie year but actual not their performance. Whether or not they are in consideration for award. An award Mac...
Cherry picking facts is spin. Not that complicated.
Its just spin to make picks look worse. Miami got two of the better players in the 2021 draft and Mac Jones finished 2nd in the rookie of the year...
Rookie of the year awards sounds like a pretty dumb way to judge a draft ability
I agree that Wright is a luxury pick but next years third is not a "substantial premium"
Then we sign Zach Wilson
Two guys out of all what picks? Tunsil picks? Tunsil was traded for two first rounders and a second. Are we supposed to be mad they didn't turn...
In hindsight would have it been better to risk it and potentially have Smith and an extra first rounder? Yeah but at the end of the day it was...
One of the 3 first round picks was from Tunsil and that was Noah. Pretty bad but the next year he traded down and back up with Texans pick for...
Tunsil stuff? Those picks turned into Waddle and Holland
McDaniel waited until Grier went to the restroom and took over
For all 4 seasons?
Caleb really isn't. They weren't that bad last year, they added offensive talent, and they have another top 10 pick. Its pretty much as good of a...
I know everyone always wants their team to trade down but that is what I am rooting for. Especially if they take Worthy which I don't think fans...
The best you are doing is ever so slightly upgrading but at the expense of a QB who is 5 years older so it wouldn't make much sense to me.
Probably handing Grier "Xavier Worthy no matter what" notes over and over.
They are absolutely better off now than they were then so that is just nonsense.
He had the title of GM in 2016 but worked under Tannenbaum who had actual control until he was let go and Grier promoted to head of football...
Tannenbaum hired Gase for the record and was the one running the show for those years. He mostly should be judged for the years after Tannenbum...
Which still means he isn't his boss anymore
If your boss fires you he isn't your boss anymore.
They had two shots at clinching and lost.
That is fine if you can tell me why he dumped every bit of dirt possible but forgot about that Or why they asked him to tank but didn't just...
I would assume Miami is will under that otherwise he would have signed already I think the problem with the guys you mentioned is they wouldn't...
Except of all the dirt he put out there that wasn't part of it. Being forced to play players he didn't want to was and will always will be fan...
Suh stopped giving a ****. Wilkins won't. I agree its a bad contract but Hunt got a worse one.
I don't think his attitude is much of a concern since I doubt he would be more than a 1 year deal. If Miami struggles his happiness will be the...
There is no way its the worst. He is still one of the better players at his position who is durable and is a great teammate. Compare that to...
Its true that wanting Fields isn't trolling but wanting Zach Wilson to start for the Dolphins sure is
Well the story is being told to make Fields and the Bears look as good as possible because they both look horrible so you have take that with a...
He was the best free agent CB on the market and now he gets to be #2 instead of a #1. #7 CB on PFF in 2023
PFF still had him ranked in the top 10 last year He was mostly pretty good outside of the game where DJ Moore torched him over and over
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Don't have to address it in the draft but they don't have a WR3 so its an option
I am sure you wouldn't have been the first person here to say they overpaid if they had kept them
Don't forget we are screwed because Chris Grier can't draft and we are screwed because we lost players Chris Grier drafted
You will notice that Tampa didn't do it again and instead they gave Mayfield a big contract. You want them to sign low end starters/high end...
My point is its about how long you are actually committed. Giving him 50 million wouldn't bother me if they out some outs. All that list shows is...
The key is guarantees and how long they are committing themselves. Everyone freaked out about Daniel Jones getting 4 for 160 and yeah that is bad...
But if you think they can't win now wouldn't you want them to have a more favorable cap situation in a year? Instead of going all in again and...
Shouldn't the people who said this team wasn't going anywhere be glad they aren't just simply running it back?
Best part of this offseason will be the people that say the team sucks because Grier can't draft while also saying the team sucks because they...
Well can't imagine he would get released but yeah there is no real demand. I think some people just saw him put up some good fantasy football...
Based on what other guards are better Hunt is about to get seriously paid
People assumed Hill would be a problem teammate the moment he got here and it hasn't happened. He is only here to be in Miami for 2 more years...
It mostly just explains why it doesn't really matter. Chiefs have an all time coach and QB.
It came up because Tannenbaum suggested they should trade him for Trent McDuffie so no smoke.
Well they said they would have in that scenario
Tua was never falling to the second. If Miami had taken Herbert he would have gone 6. Miami wasn't out there by themselves on Tua.
I am not saying Miami did the smart thing but that he was right to do what he did. And none of that changes the fact that when a team sees a...
This is exactly the reason players should hold out and why fans shouldn't hold it against them.
In terms of trying to play? He could have had surgery on his toe in week 1 of 2022. Say what you want about him but I don't doubt his desire to...
Its that or blow it up. There really isn't any other move that makes sense.
Mostly meant as a comment on Fields who also couldn't stay healthy his first 3 years
Best ability is availability conveniently no longer a thing
If they look into it they will find out he isn't good.
Someone seriously suggesting replacing Tua with Justin Fields? Going to be a long offseason
A lot of the fighting stems from people wanting to be right about past takes and an inability to move on from them. Also I am still salty about...
Rodgers should not be there. He is 40 and people have to stop thinking what Brady did was normal.
Yeah and its complete BS. We all know the people pretending it mattered wouldn't have cared if he had won the competition and anyone who tried to...
Look at the elite effort being put in by everyone involved. Truly an important event.
So you don't care about the thousands of fans who pay to see the actual pro bowl hoping to see someone good and get stuck with Mac Jones every...
Yeah but think of the 50 people in attendance
He has made multiple he has just never gone. The point is players don't care.
I am talking about the pro bowl. Are Bills fans upset that Josh Allen has yet to show up to one?
Are you bothered by the ones who can't be bothered to show up
In a casual event that half the QBs won't even show up for?
People are actually arguing about a pro bowl skills competition. Holy ****.
I imagine he still wants GM responsibilities and I doubt KC would have any interest in that
If a game were to be moved or delayed its likely to be more about the fans than the players.
Chiefs obviously don't suck and that is talk to try and set up Miami to look worse if they lose but its a winnable game if they commit to running....
Trolls deserve to be demeaned
I wouldn't underestimate Mahomes but their offense has struggled and their receivers do have trouble catching the ball so with that kind of cold...
A forum of Dolphin fans where "fans" openly root against the team and mock those who were happy when they were winning. How embarrassing.
No the GM isn't responsible for players getting hurt. Its fine when you talk about the Armsteads of the world but unless it spreads like its covid...
What about the other 65 guys who are injured
So why list players who aren't injury prone is a list of injury prone players?
Yeah you listed Jalen Ramsey who has been extremely durable throughout his career
Jerome Baker never even missed a game before this year and he will probably be on your injury prone list now
Cursed franchise
No and I don't really see the reasoning behind that
I am happy with him as the coach but the offense isn't making the necessary in game/second half adjustments.
Well you can't say absolutely nothing because Achane
Given that a third of them actively root against the team there won't be anyone left soon
I think Waddle plays
Maybe they don't win but I was worried they might not show up again so certainly that wasn't the case
KC losing to Miami is believable but they are not losing to the Steelers without Watt.
Also no matter what at least we didn't finish as weakly as Jags and Eagles
And Metlife claims another body and this time its AJ Brown
Such a pathetic collapse
Herbert has shown wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy more than Lawrence
Doug Pederson might be unemployed at this rate
Jags well on their way to the collapse of the year
Jaguars losing and making Dolphins best case scenario playing Bills twice in a row? Please no.
Playing Pitt also could mean no TJ Watt so its a massive opportunity tomorrow assuming the Jags don't Jag
He would also be an injury away from costing himself a lot of money if he doesn't sign long term. Playing every game means the Dolphins can...
The choice isn't between give him record money or get rid of him. They will negotiate and maybe they come to a deal and maybe they won't but week...
Tua isn't going anywhere. Please everyone accept that before we have to go through months on nonsense.
Which is irrelevant in terms of whether he is injury prone. Yes I understand that you want to move goal posts about him specifically because it...
Jalen Ramseys whose knees are so bad that he has missed a grand total of one game leading into this year because of knee injuries. And his knees...
Austin Jackson missed time in college because he donated bone marrow. Are we claiming that made him injury prone?
He might not have gotten hurt. It could have been a ticking time bomb that was about to happen no matter what but either way he shouldn't have...
"injury prone" players loses its meaning when you try to apply to players who have never missed a game in 2 or 3 years.
Steelers beat the Ravens backups and Jags beat the Titans would leave the Bills out with a loss.
That obviously isn't true as they have shown to be able to survive a lot of injuries especially to the offensive line. There just obviously does...
Well Colts/Texans definitely aren't
I am going to root for the Bills eliminated option because obviously **** the bills and also don't want the nightmare option of having to beat...
To be fair the QB wasn't good
They actually barely beat the Giants
I think the issue with this game vs the SF game is they didn't fully dominate SF. They turned Purdy over 4 times and that was the difference....
Colts/Texans doesn't actually matter to Buffalo as the winner is in no matter what. Its the Jags (losing) that matters to them.
Ravens did whatever they wanted on offense. Things like that might have helped keep the score a little less embarrassing but they weren't scoring...
There is a really good chance the Bills are 2 seed with a win and all the way out with a loss
He was a QB on the decline and Carroll saw it. Hackett was/is a disaster of an offensive coach that made him look much worse than he is. Payton...
Washed Chiefs vs Fraudphins is not going be the appealing game the NFL would have thought a few months ago And no absolutely not
Bills are very Jekyll and Hyde but Allen could have his way with this defense if they don't play 10 times better
You think its a legit idea to blow it up after what is essentially one shot at it?
Yes because its ridiculous idea. They have some tough calls to make but the idea of not running it back is an absurd overreaction.
Get a grip
Its ok to lose but you can't just not show up and that is what has happened
Might have to put all our hopes into Zappe at this rate
Shameful performance by this D
Hopefully this is just another slow start for the D like last week because oof
Sure their defense is special but its hard to believe any other realistic outcome is better than the Browns in a potential AFC title game
He will deserve it but I don't think he will get it. I always thought the narrative would be in his favor because its such a good story but the...
I would guess it had something to do with Parsons beating him bad on the play that got called for roughing
Hopefully the Bills share the same result as Miami. The dream outcome is Miami wins and Buffalo clinches and has less or maybe nothing to play for...
It really hasn't
I don't understand the logic of looking down on the Dolphins for taking advantage of a questionable call just because the other team failed to do so.
Its not really hard to picture Joe Flacco playing terrible vs the Jets and losing some ugly low scoring game on a short week
Ravens lose Browns lose Dolphins win Dolphins clinch?
Too busy celebrating that huge game winning field goal from their favorite team [SPOILER]
This could also be a thread about Jason Sanders
Build a statue of that man
Can't beat a good team? Can't beat good defenses? Can't win a big game? Guess there is only one thing left to do. [MEDIA]
Jason Sanders putting to bed any question marks about him it seems
Not kicking is bad. Calling a fade is worse.
Another mediocre Josh Allen game that will shoot him up the MVP odds
I think the chance of Pats winning is very slim but its a chance. Their defense is still playing well so it only takes a bit of Josh Allen going...
Even if it wasn't an absolutely perfect throw we see QBs miss these throws all the time although the idea that any other WR can even get open at...
Its definitely not do or die time for them since they aren't going anywhere.
Its taken a long time but the Bills have figured out that you are allowed to hand off to running backs more than 5 times a game. They will...
Expect a lot of "its just the Jets" from people that likely predicted they would struggle vs the Jets
They lost multiple guys and did well so its hard to really fault him. You can maybe fault him for Armstead but you can't lose this many starters...
Magic number would be 1
You know things have taken a turn for the worse when you have to pray for the health of Liam Eichenberg [MEDIA]
The price to be paid for that was everyone else getting hurt
Didn't he play every snap last year? If you want to complain about Grier getting injury prone players you need to start elsewhere.
Yeah there is no chance of that with Tyreek. You know he wants that record and wanted to play.
We all know who the real MVP is on the team...Austin Jackson because at least he can stay on the field.
Yeah I never understood it and it looks even more ridiculous. Really decent chance they are playing Buffalo in Buffalo now.
All time bad loss. Just disgraceful by everyone not named Mostert.
Better to be lucky than good McDaniel really has to learn to take what the other team gives them. If they can't stop the run and your pass...
Run the ****ing ball
